Yeah, you have posters over there saying their hesitant to give up Randolph straight up for #4. Talk about delusional. Or maybe I’m delusional. Either way, I’m glad Kahn doesn’t have to negotiate with those fans.

Uh oh…

The discussions between the two clubs took place last week when several teams, including the Warriors, sent representatives to Minnesota to watch 42 potential draft picks work out at the Timberwolves’ practice facility.

but couldn’t Randolph play the 3? what he lacks in quickness he may make up for in length. he’s a rail! he’s got some handles too… just a thought. in my mind, if we get randolph, we don’t need aminu. we should get a legit 2. george or henry would make me happy right now.

if Kahn’s real goal was to have a frontcourt of Cousins/Randolph/Love. There is size, shotblocking and rebounding ability. But I still have no idea who they could convert Al (if they are even planing too) into on the wing?

there’s also a post over there to the effect that the deal wouldn’t go down until draft night, and would be triggered if the Wolves get (whoever) at #4 and the Warriors have Wes Johnson to take at #6. Minnesota would trade down for Johnson, picking up Randolph for so doing…. or sumpin’ like that.

Simultaneously multiple posters are saying the Warriors have Johnson third on their board. So.

(I’m just relieved to have the Wolves making some noise at their usual every-two-weeks-in-summertime pace. You have to water that field of wheat for it to grow, man. Regular like.)

are giddy at the prospect of drafting Wes at 5. They think he’s the perfect guy to put next to ‘Reke. I hate this draft – we get shafted out of getting Turner, and we can’t move down a couple spots and pick up Wes either. Unless we can figure out how to get #2 or 3 without giving up #4 there’s no way we’ll end up with Turner/Wes, Turner/Favors, Favors/Wes, etc.

He’s active, as usual.

Is it some sort of “boomerang” deal if you trade down and then back up?

Eh. Probably would happen as a three-way deal, so we wouldn’t see it that way. That would be the intermediate step in the reaction.

before the season even starts if he can get that done.

a bad rebounding team. I think you need to figure out how to keep Love for that reason.

Seraphin is pulling his name out of the Draft.

Randolph has been pretty productive when healthy. He rebounds the ball well, is improving as passer and a scorer, though still needs to cut out some bad shots (18.5 per 36 at a .521 TS%), he makes his free throws (over 80%) and has been getting to the line more as his career progresses. If he could crash the boards as well as he did in year one, he’d already be a better than average player (dropped from 11.6 per 36 to 10.3)

Yeah, he’s promise heavy, production light, but the improvements he showed in nearly every area of the game at least give some hope that he might actually keep some of those promises.

Jefferson + Sessions to Detroit for Prince + # 7

1. + #23 to GS for AR + #6

Prince + Gomes + # 7 + # 16 to Philly for #2 + Brand

I agree with you a Randolph, Love, Darko, Brand frontcourt is intersting. We’d still have #6 after these three trades to grab the athletic small forward, someone like Johnson, George, or Aminu.

I think you might need to send Gomes and/or Sessions to Philly instead of Ellington to make it work.
So, it would be…
Jefferson and 4 to GS
Radmonovic, Gomes, Sessions and 6 to Philly
2, Randolph, Azubuike and Brand to MN

I would absolutely do that, and I think the other teams would, too.
It’s almost too much on our end, but if we’re coming out of it with Turner, Randolph and Azubuike, and still have our 16, 23 and Pek to move around in the draft, that’s pretty appealing.

is that there are no data points for current production for prospects, while there is for Randolph. yes the potential is there, but as of yet he hasn’t made serious progress towards achieving it. The other’s haven’t had the chance and get the benefit of the doubt in their favor. Potential only overshadows production when there isn’t information to cast legit doubt on a players ability to get there. For Randolph there is a little (plus the injury concerns).

That and fans always dream that their team will be fixed via the draft since hope springs eternal.

The concerns I have with Randolph are between the ears. A lack of self awareness prevents him from playing to his strengths and to receive consistent playing time. His lack of maturity in failing to transform his body into a professional basketball player’s body i believe is directly related to his poor injury history. Finally, his lack of court awareness makes me hesitant to project a linear improvement in his skills on the court. He will always have a huge advantage physically and athletically over his opponents, but without self-awareness and court-awareness, it will be tough to harness that and turn it into a winning basketball player. This is probably why his teams from high school, to college, to the NBA have never been winning teams. Yes you can’t put the blame solely on Randolph, but it’s part of his package at this point.

Correct. Statistically at least, Randolph compares very well to guys like KG and Bosh at the same age. If they think he’s a baby Bosh…

yes please!

Are you asking that just to hurt my heart?

the ghost of green visited me as well when I read that bit

He played within his limitations, more or less.

If you’re making a “chicken with his head cut off” list of Minnesota players, Corey Brewer has to be on that list somewhere.

I would not support that deal

That’s tough. On the one hand, if they’re going to deal Love for a more contemporary/conventional player, Randolph’s not the worst option. On the other, at the very least those two players are a push right now. Randolph’s got the higher ceiling and is much more athletic, but if he doesn’t reach it or ends up just getting hurt too much, bad deal. Fatalistic Wolves fan I am, I just imagine Love and Curry developing into a devastating high screen-and-roll tandem and feeling the way I do when I watch Brandon Roy.

And if we’re still including the pick swap, that’s worse. Minny gives up the better (IMO), more durable player and the better draft pick. That’s as of Summer 2010, of course, and things could change. But that just seems like way too much to sacrifice for what would essentially be a stylistic facelift (e.g., Love and Cousins for Randolph and Johnson).

I don’t know. I was intrigued when I thought it was #4 for Randolph and #6. I don’t like that Love’s now in the picture.

If I’m Riley, I’m asking for Kevin Love in any Randolph deal. Ideally, I’d want Love AND Randolph–that’d be a very nice 4-5 combo in stretches–but that’s not happening.

So it’s Love for Randolph, with the Warriors having to throw in C.J. Watson (if he agrees to a sign-and-trade as a restricted free agent) to balance the salaries.

If I’m the Warriors, I probably ask for a flop of the 4 and 6 picks, but I doubt Minnesota does that.

of columnist speculation. The same columnist you discredited yesterday…

It seems like the columnist is speculating Love-for-Randolph straight up. He also seems to have sentiment most here do: Randolph has better upside, but Love so far’s the better producer.

Also, Tim Kawakama alert! Keep in mind last time this dude was connecting the dots between the Dubs and the Wolves, he had KG going to Golden State for Brandon Wright, Andres Biedrins, and filler. It all hinged on that weird draft day trade where the Dubs gave up Jason Richardson for the #8 pick, and a malfunctioning telephone or two that caused Mullen to guess incorrectly on which player the Wolves wanted drafted in GState’s spot. Maybe there was something to it (and parts of the circuslike story do seem, well, McHaleian), but obviously in the end it was a moot point.

that of every single Love trade suggestion that I have heard, this one takes the cake as being the most feasable as a core trade.

it signals that there is nothing of remote value being offered for Jefferson, and Kahn figures he might as well get something for somebody, and hopefully Al will either improve enough to help the team or bump up his tradeworthiness. Otherwise, it’s going to be a long three years under the weight of that contract.

 Not to say the website doesn’t have its merits, but it’s hardly a place to go for reputable sources and investigative journalism, or even very good op/eds. It’s essentially the same sort of thing you’d find on some fan’s personal blog or a random fanpost. That article is 100 percent some Warrior fan’s opinion, and I don’t see how that really adds to this discussion if he’s not participating in it over here.

On a side note, the guy fits in a lot of questionable points in a sentence where he say that Aminu is Igu"a"dala “without the shot.” Iguodala isn’t a great shooter in the first place, and he’s a swingman. Aminu is a larger combo forward that doesn’t have the passing skills that Iggy does. That’s also before he accuses Stern of telling the refs to “fix” the series so that it goes to 6 or 7 games, and after he says that Randolph is Golden State’s most talented player since Rick Barry. Not the best guy to cite, in my eyes.