Overnight FA Open Thread
by Eric in Madison on Jun 30, 2010 9:58 PM CDT
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Hey SnP, can you put this (or start one) on the front page for those of us who won't be sleeping?
Recent notes: Jefferson opted out in SA, which is a huge bonus for the Spurs. $15 million off the books. Farmar is not being extended a Q offer, making him a UFA. Same story for Ronnie Brewer, so that cost the Grizz a future draft pick.
Joe Johnson sounding likely to remain in Atlanta for a max offer, which makes it less likely that they match an offer for Childress; Kleiza not ruling out a return to the NBA next season, he has until 7/15 to opt out of his Greek deal.
ED NOTE: I was going to add the following in a separate free agency post, but this is a better spot:
A quick reminder to all that the contract page is up to date.
The Wolves currently have roughly $42.1 mil over 10 contracts (including Johnson and Hayward’s guaranteed salaries) and Rubio’s cap hold.
1- Flynn/Sessions/(Rubio)
2- Webster/Brewer/Ellington
3- Johnson/Hayward
4- Love/Jefferson/Hollins
5-
That’s where they’re at with roughly $11.4 below the cap. I have no idea where the idea of signing Rudy Gay comes from with no centers on the roster and with Darko and Pekovic in the wings. If they want a guy like that, it will have to be in a sign-and-trade. Also, they really need the Al Jefferson trade exception because it could be a valuable f’ing thing at the trade deadline and about the only way they can add another good player without the draft. If we go with the $5 mil/year rumor with Pek, they’re at $6.4 mil with no true center and Darko still out there. Darko made $7.5 last year. Let's pencil him in for $6/year and they suddenly have $0.4 left to work with before they have to start thinking about sign-and-trades and exceptions.
Possible targets:
- Darko Milicic
- Nemanja (I've upgraded him to one-name status)
- Nikola Pekovic
- Josh Childress
- JJ Redick
- LeBron James
- My Little Pony
- Hugs-a-Lot Bear
All these questions and more....tonight.
PS: Atlanta is insane. Joe Johnson just out-Gilberted the Arenas deal.
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Childress
He’s a SG right? Id take him in a second, been playing overseas, Im sure he’ll come back a more complete player
Nope, pure SF
And not a high volume 3 point shooter,either. To be fair, he makes them at a decent clip, but probably because he only shoots them when he’s left wide open.
I wouldn’t mind acquiring him, but he’s far from an ideal fit.
Wiz turn down Josh Howard's option
He’s a UFA Buy low option?
Knicks meeting tonight with Mike Miller. Yikes.
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by Eric in Madison on Jun 30, 2010 8:33 PM CDT reply actions
Couldn't go low enough
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/howarjo01.html
Three straight seasons indisputably declining from the previous one, he’s 29, coming off a catastrophic injury, a headcase, and frankly, was always a little overrated anyway. I wouldn’t take him at any price, because the small role he’d deserve would just offend him and lead to locker room issues.
Get some sleep man. Nothing’s happening tonight. Players can’t even sign until the eight.
by Achilles Fang 1 on Jun 30, 2010 8:34 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I'm not staying up all night
I just have to stay up late tonight for other reasons. Thought we could use an open thread for any rumors that happen around the league.
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by Eric in Madison on Jun 30, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Plus,
Dear Leader said we’d know at 12:04 Eastern how well their free agent efforts were going to go, so . . .
there's no way they sign any big names
I’m not even worried about Rudy Gay because it will not happen.
Now you mention it
Kahn’s hairline is heading into Kim Jong Il territory….
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
by Auswolf on Jun 30, 2010 9:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I walked by the course...
…but did not get to play. The DMZ is a weird place. Camp Bonifas is especially interesting.
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I saw the DMZ once
It was winter and looked like absolute no man’s land. We could just barely see into a bit of North Korea – some fake village the North had built as propaganda but no one actually lived there. We also so some N. Korean guards – those guys looked like they meant business. Anyways, it is a weird place. Fun to Google Earth it, though.
"Styx might be the mullet of bands."
by biggity2bit on Jun 30, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
That gleeful picture must have been after one of his numerous
hole in ones the first time he golfed. Really takes your mind off your starving people for a while.
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Jun 30, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I will be up late myself and checking in from time to time. I hope we hear some news that gives us a clearer idea of Kahn’s vision.
by Achilles Fang 1 on Jun 30, 2010 8:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Mike Miller has two teams vying for his services?
Miller has two teams lined up to pitch him on a minimum contract. Think one is Miami.
Miami could be a very nice fit
especially if they get Bosh. They might be better off with Wade and Bosh maxed, then getting a few very good $6 million players to fill out the roster vs. getting three max guys and zero depth.
Also sounds like the Clippers are looking at Miller, could be a decent fit. Irony there, Wolves get Jaric from Clippers, then get Miller for Jaric. Maybe now, the Clippers get Miller and Wolves 1st rounder in a couple years!
I think we can safely say...
That no team is a good fit for Mike Miller anymore. He may flatter to deceive for a bit, but he’s ultimately done.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
A 30 year old putting up 11/6/4 on .623 TS% isn't done.
He’s certainly frustrating, but those are solid numbers.
David Berri still loves him...
But maybe he should start letting ’em fly like he used to.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Jul 1, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
why do all the media heads think lebron will sign with chicago
I’m under the impression he will not want to live in MJ’s shadow in that city. also, atlanta is dumb if they offer johnson max
Derrick Rose
and Joakim Noah.
"Styx might be the mullet of bands."
by biggity2bit on Jun 30, 2010 9:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Shadow / schmadow
They’ll pay him like a mofo
He gets to play with Rose, Noah, and likely…Bosh
Chicago is an awesome place to live
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Rumor has it that Mike Miller will be getting more than the MLE
After his terrible year here and 30 missed games in Washington.
And some of you wonder why I blame the owners for their losses.
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by Eric in Madison on Jun 30, 2010 9:30 PM CDT reply actions
Lebron
To Boston?I heard on Kfan 10 minutes ago. Lebron is talking to Ray Allen about Boston and other possibilties. If this happens it proves my belief that every single thing is rigged in the NBA
by Twolves for ever and ever on Jun 30, 2010 9:30 PM CDT reply actions
No way
How could that happen?
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by Eric in Madison on Jun 30, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Sign and trade?
Cant Boston sing Ray or Pierce and Cleveland sign LeBron, then trade? Or even Garnett for LeBJ in a S&T. Obviously, Pierce would be the one. Doesn’t this work? Is there something I am missing about the CBA?
I'll hold your monkey.
That would work
But I don’t know why Pierce would do that. Allen won’t get enough to match salaries without Boston throwing in more. And Cleveland won’t want Garnett.
by PhoenixWolf on Jun 30, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Lebron could go to Boston
with Pierce opting out. Lebron slots into his max salary position quite nicely to answer Eric in Madison’s question…
Not really
They would also have to renounce Ray Allen, and even then I don’t think they can get to the max. Though if Rasheed has officially retired, they can renounce him as well, then I think they could do it.
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by Eric in Madison on Jun 30, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
They’d be at 35.5 plus 9 minimum holds if Rasheed retires. Barely enough.
by PhoenixWolf on Jun 30, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually
A little less with Bradley’s contract in there
by PhoenixWolf on Jun 30, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll laugh my arse off
If the knicks offer miller more than the MLE.
Btw I thought teams had to waive their exemptions to use their cap space?
Also, Ronnie Brewer as a Wolves SG?
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
by Auswolf on Jun 30, 2010 9:38 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I like Ronnie Brewer. He’s an advanced stat darling, although not a high-usage guy. But he was a bit Evan Turneresque as a prospect in 2006. We haven’t seen him be quite the do-it-all player in the NBA. Whether that has to do with him or with his role in Utah, a PG dominant team, is uncertain.
But yeah, he’d be an instant starter at the 2 for this team. Tough to say what he’ll get. Utah traded him after his agent said he wanted about $8 million a year, but after an injury-plagued season (and easily his worst season as a pro when he was on the court), I’d imagine he’ll get much lower than that. Could be a good bargain. I’d prefer the Wolves go this route, or someone like Josh Childress.
childress
what would we have to offer childress to get him to opt out of his olympiakos contract? assuming the hawks are able to sign joe johnson..
I thought I read something
mentioning that they may not even want him anymore. Not sure how much truth there is to that though
knicks
seems like they’re gonna lay an egg this offseason, even after all that big talk during the season
Tony Allen?
Maybe we could take a flyer on Tony Allen from Boston. This guy is extremely athletic, would fit in a running offense, and is a good shooter but most importantly he is a unrestricted free agent. He was hurt for a year and hasn’t seen the court much playing behind Ray Allen and he is still only 28 years old. I was hoping the Wolves would’ve at least demanded him in the KG trade. I think he has plenty of upside if he could get some playing time and he wouldn’t break our bank to sign him. These are the types of players we realisticly can try to sign. Hopefully with players like Allen or even Webster we will get lucky and see them blow up on our team. What do you think?
Yuck on Tony Allen, More interested in Ronnie Brewer
Allen is too old and can you imagine the offensive firepower with Allen and Corey Brewer at the 2 and 3 spots. Wow that’s a lot of bricks…
?
Is he that bad of a shooter? He’s close to a .500 career shooter. I don’t think he is comparable with Corey.
by killerhoopage on Jun 30, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
He is
LA was daring him to shoot 12 footers and he wouldn’t. All his shots are lay ups and put backs
by Twolves for ever and ever on Jun 30, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
well
he was wide open while the other teams were worried about double teaming garnett, pierce, and ray allen… on a less talented team, I just don’t see Tony Allen being very effective as an offensive threat
That's fair
But is Ronnie Brewer much better? He is a decent defensive guard but he is not a lights out shooter either and he is not a good 3 pt shooter for sure. I really like Ronnie as a back-up defensive specialist kind of 2g but not as a starter.
by killerhoopage on Jun 30, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Not a shooter due to an arm that was disfigured from a childhood incident. But he’s an outstanding slasher and finisher who always posts excellent 2-pt%. Rangeless slashers aren’t something to get terribly excited about, but given his all around game, including superb defense, I think he could work with two other shooters on the perimeter (which the Wolves might have).
Indeed
To me getting one makes sense, but not both. Has anyone heard the latest on Pek? As I understand he needs to make a decision fairly quickly if he wants to play in the NBA. Did the wolves really offer him $15mil over 3 years?
I’m crossing my fingers they find an Al deal that can make Darko moot, as I think Darko’s terrible. Something like Al to Dallas, Dampier to Golden State, and Biedrins to Minnesota. Then find a way to pry away Derrick Favors and sign a bargain starter at the 2 (Brewer or Childress or someone). That’d make me feel much better about this offseason.
Don't think Darko's terrible...
But I agree with your general premise that he’s not that good. He was absolutely a defensive revelation for us last year. But that says a lot more about how bad we sucked than it does about him.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
I think it was
3 years, 13M. i would assume escalating salary, so probably only 4M or a little less this next year.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Jul 1, 2010 5:38 AM CDT up reply actions
How soon
Will we know what Kahn’s extremely crazy or extremely anticlimactic plan really is?
by Twolves for ever and ever on Jun 30, 2010 10:24 PM CDT reply actions
I don't expect the wolves to make headlines for a couple of weeks
once the big FA names sign, then Minnesota may have some offers for Jefferson. Also, they can go after the 2nd Tier guys. Don’t see any big names going to Minnesota, and aside from Wade, Lebron, and Bosh, none of the other guys really make much sense to go after… Maybe Amare…
Kahn plans to bring two big name FAs to visit Minnesota
it’d be cool if they brought in Wade and Lebron… even if there is 0% chance they’d sign.
Who is Richard Jefferson's agent?
He’s really walking away from that much money? He’ll be lucky to get the MLE. I guess he can afford the extra 10 million…
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Tyson Chandler made a wise move, I think
Pierce, Salmons and Jefferson are gonna find out that its pretty cold out there for older guys like them
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It's gonna be interesting to see
what happens with Jefferson. It could end up being a very costly move. I think he’s one of the guys thinking he can make less per season but get more years. While true, if half of the season next year is locked out, he’ll end up making less money than if he just got it all now.
Pierce will probably be OK, but not sure he’ll be any better off. These guys are forgetting that with the weak FA class next summer, it could be a seller’s market then as well.
How many years does Jefferson have left though?
He looked washed up three years ago and did next to nothing last year. Take the 15 and then retire or something. I think the overlooked story this year is all of the washed-up vets on the free agent market. Shaq, AI, Jermaine O’Neal, T-Mac, Jefferson, Pierce. If only this were 2003…
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I think he would've turned it on himself had it gone the other way
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Amare
Assuming were all in on Rubio Amare should be offered a Max deal IMO, even though thats grossly overpaying anyone besides the Top 5. I would really like D Lee as well
Half the reason is because I have season tickets and need something to watch..
by Twolves for ever and ever on Jun 30, 2010 10:37 PM CDT reply actions
if amare was a twolf
it would be a waste but it would justify me getting league pass again so…. +1
I have talk to an expert...
…an expert on My Little Pony, that is. Turns out there are numerous My Little Ponies. My daughter claims that the one with the most upside is Rainbow Dash.
Thoughts?
my little neice
thinks the super long hair cheerilee pony would work well as an athletic 2-3. and she uses her hair wisely on D…
Zgoda update?
Any guesses how soon after 11:00 Zgoda might get some info from Kahn and report it?
The previous FO was notorious for being tight-lipped (except for leaks – hi JAF!). But Kahn has generally been very transparent…
Players not signing with our team isn't really info to report, is it?
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the 11:04 comment by Kahn
is what we want to hear about
by Twolves for ever and ever on Jun 30, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Zgoda is awake!
His twitter:
Let free agency begin! #Timberwolves
lakers
why are lakers fan continuously thinking that some big shot free agent goes to their team. don’t they have enough after the league handed them gasol on a silver platter? greedy bastards, and to think they got their name frome minnesota
Press conference at 2:00 a.m.?
Maybe after Kahn makes his two calls, he will gather Jerry Zgoda and all the rest of the media and tell us what was on the other end of those two calls?
He ordered
“One cheese pizza with extra cheese. Hold the sauce, and for the crust instead of using dough could you make it out of cheese?”
Unfortunately, after the pizza was delivered
Kahn traded the Pizza Hut pizza, which he had to get rid of because it was getting cold, and $5 to his next door neighbor for a calzone. The neighbor did him a favor taking the pizza off of his hands like that.
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by TimAllen on Jun 30, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also, the calzone...
Had three different pepperonis one time, then three different olives the next….
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Pekovic
chadfordinsider:
Breaking News: Wolves agree to 3 year, $13 mil deal with 2008 2nd round pick Nikola Pekovic. Link coming on ESPN.com…
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just saw that too
wow, first news coming from wolves
will the 5 power forward mark be broken!
the drama builds.
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The Al Jefferson Clock has to be ticking at this point, right?
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i'm hoping they have something in place because the power forward thing is getting out of hand
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STEIN_LINE_HQ: Wolves line up Thursday night date with top free-agent target Rudy Gay. ESPN.com link: http://es.pn/9suPa3
Balow's Twitter
“David Kahn: “Excited to see Rudy Gay tomorrow & David Lee on Sat to show them what the team/city has to offer”
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Lee and Jefferson can play together
Remember Isaiah Thomas and Joe Dumars? Oh, wait, that was last year’s explanation…
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by TimAllen on Jun 30, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think I know
which of the Two (Lee vs Gay) the Advanced Stat folks will prefer. Although Lee isn’t much of a defender either.
Welcome Aboard Nikola!!!
Seems like a Solid Deal
Every team
Has no more than 5 above average defenders. Lets get used to it
by Twolves for ever and ever on Jun 30, 2010 11:29 PM CDT reply actions
Actually, I've seen
Kahn get more defensive at a press conference than any player gets on the court.
Sign Gay & Pekovic then
Trade Pekovic & Wesley for Favors & Filler
Gay & Favors is better than Wes & Pek
Trade Al for?
No - don't stop there
Gay Love Favors
by killerhoopage on Jun 30, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
BTW
posted this because this joke is getting old
by killerhoopage on Jun 30, 2010 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
This is ridiculous
Con is an idiot, his main FA targets are Darko, Gay and Lee? WTF. How can anyone defend this guy, he is even worse than McHale, which is saying something.
At least we're not courting Joe Johnson and Mike Miller
like the Knicks are doing tonight. Boy, wouldn’t that be a let down…
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Crazy Talk
Speculation says that Atlanta is going to offer Joe Johnson a max deal. That is crazy.
by killerhoopage on Jun 30, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I heard somebody say that
the Atlanta owners are offering him that because they know that they won’t own the team that long and won’t have to pay for the full contract. Could be just a rumor though…
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Perhaps the "New" Triangle will consist of
2 pg’s
1 sf
2 pf’s
Tanktown is gonna set the NBA on fire!
by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Jun 30, 2010 11:40 PM CDT reply actions
Ford reporting that the Wolves have verbal agreement with Pekovic
3 years/13 million.
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by Eric in Madison on Jun 30, 2010 11:41 PM CDT reply actions
It's good to see
the Wolves acquire a Euro of the Euro’s free will. He seems, based on his description, like he’d be a good fit with Al.
by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Jun 30, 2010 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Shame they may never play together then
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
As for Gay and Lee
Ack.
I really do think Kahn is out of his depth sometimes.
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by Eric in Madison on Jun 30, 2010 11:46 PM CDT reply actions
This will sound arrogant, but so be it: Wouldn’t it be nice if, just once, we could trust the team POBO’s basketball acumen more than your typical CHer’s? I would LOVE to be in the dark about what the team is doing, and when they do make move, breathlessly discuss it and marvel at the sharpness of the move. I HATE constantly being in peek-through-the-fingers mode during the draft, trades, FA, uniform redesign, etc…
Yeah
It’s just so…lacking. In creativity. In value analysis. Rudy Gay? The one guy who, all year, everyone has known is going to get overpaid? And he’s your first guy? After you drafted a small forward with the 4th pick?
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by Eric in Madison on Jun 30, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I just keep hoping
that there is something we’re missing, something bigger that kahn is cooking up. making all these silly drafts and signings must be moving towards something right? but of course I’m probably overthinking things
Pick 10 random CH's
put them in a room together and they will do a better job than POBO/Dear Leader
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
Perhaps 10 fairly seasoned CHers...
Some of the stuff that comes out the woodwork on lotto night, draft night, FA night……scary.
I looked ahead to the open road, thought about the people and what they know, and wrote a book called "People Don't Know Nothin!"
You're telling me
I was reading down the line responding to correct every incorrect/dumb take I saw, but after a while I just gave up. Err, not to sound arrogant…
David Lee and Kevin Love
are similar players, Yet Kevin Love is 7 years younger, WHY IS KAHN TALKING TO DAVID LEE??? Someone please give me an reasonable explanation
Run
He wants to run. What if it turned in to Favors and Lee some how. With Bosh and Wade In Chicago, We might as well have a fun team to watch.
by Twolves for ever and ever on Jun 30, 2010 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
He’s 5 years older i think. Think of it this way, Lee is much more agile and his body is much more mature and natural in way were I just see him being much more healthy over the long haul. I see K love having junk knees by the age of 30. Hopefully I’m wrong because he’s one of my favorite players to watch.
by Twolves for ever and ever on Jun 30, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I love that the Knicks website
has a banner with no Knick players on it
http://www.nba.com/knicks/
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Atalnta have offered Joe Johnson a max deal
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
Anytime you can max out a 30-year-old wing who’s demonstrated he can’t carry a team, you gotta do it.
I keep looking for reasons to relike that team
but they keep giving me reasons not to
Apparently Kahn just said on KFAN
that he’s taking Gay to the Twins game tomorrow night, and Lee on Saturday.
They're both going to sign..
….For the league minimum. Honestly, who doesn’t love the twins!!
Gay twins
now there’s a thought
by BetterLaettnerThanRider on Jul 1, 2010 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions
What about Josh Howard...had some solid years in Dallas...
Josh Howard or Josh Childress best options…Darko pay him 3 mill…why give him 7 are you crazy…..better we leave AL at Center and Bring Pek……Darko for 7 thats a joke…..you could get alot better palyers for 7 Mill then Darko and he has never proved anything……he is a upgrade over Hollins….Geez the knitting club in East St. Paul is a upgrade over Hollins….Get Josh Howard and Josh Childress both…..much better options…..
by TheGlowRadio.com on Jul 1, 2010 12:17 AM CDT reply actions
I'm not against Howard as a buy low option
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by Eric in Madison on Jul 1, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Josh Howard
I saw my share of him in a few games here in DC with the Wizards. It was only 4 games, but wow what energy! They even pulled a couple of upsets just because you could tell he actually gave a damn on the court (which stood out on the Wizards). Was definitely a leader and a shame he got injured. There’s others who will know way more then me about him but he definitely surprised me.
I hear we're giving up a 2nd rounder in 2014 and Cash Considerations for Sonny Weems! WOW!
by Son of Gerald Green on Jul 1, 2010 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Like this post by Glow Radio
And written in a “Larry King-ish” style no less! I almost expected a reference to the corn beef at Nate N’ Al’s Deli in LA while lamenting the fact that “Becker” is no longer on the air. Perhaps concluding with “MARK WAHLBERG IS THE FINEST ACTOR IN CINEMA TODAY”
I hear we're giving up a 2nd rounder in 2014 and Cash Considerations for Sonny Weems! WOW!
by Son of Gerald Green on Jul 1, 2010 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions
By the way, SnP is right above that the Wolves have about 42.1 million
in salary commitments (not including Pekovic), but I think a little wrong about the amount of cap space. I have it at about 13.5 million, not 11.4 million, including the minimum hold. Maybe $13 milllion flat. Hard to be exact. But I think it’s more than 11.4.
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by Eric in Madison on Jul 1, 2010 12:20 AM CDT reply actions
Are you taking into account Rubio's cap hold
and the draftees being signed for 120 or 125% (I can’t remember) of the rookie scale?
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
I am including Rubio's cap hold, yes
and the rookies count 100% of their scale contract until they actually sign at 120% of scale.
I just think SnP made an arithmatic error. The Wolves are at 42.1 million for 11 guys (including Rubio). They need 1 or 2 minimum holds (little under $500K each) to reach the minimum roster threshold (not sure if the rules require 12 or 13 spots filled during the off-season), which puts you at most at 43 million. The cap is going to be around 56 million, ergo 13 million in cap space.
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by Eric in Madison on Jul 1, 2010 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions
The cap holds are for rosters with fewer than 12. I think the number is about $423k.
I had it at 39.65m not including Rubio’s cap hold or the automatic cap holds for rosters < 12.
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
That looks about right
add Rubio’s slightly under 3 million and you are at about 42.4 million or so. Plus one minimum hold gets you to just under 43 million.
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by Eric in Madison on Jul 1, 2010 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Has Pekovic actually signed a contract or agreed in principle?
Does he have to wait until July 8?
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
Restricted free agents and draft picks can sign during the moratorium, so it’s likely he already signed.
True, but have we seen anything official?
At least one place I read it was saying verbal commitment.
I looked ahead to the open road, thought about the people and what they know, and wrote a book called "People Don't Know Nothin!"
They want to keep it in flux
Pek is probably a verbal until they get past Gay, Lee and other free agent bubble. That way they don’t have to show a hit on the salary cap margin and have time to deal with current assets.
What sign and trades do we have lined up?
Probably have something for both Gay and Lee I would imagine.
If we end up with Gay
Which is pretty much a sign and trade for Al as I understand it. (correct me if I’m wrong) I could see Pek and Wes to NJ for Favors and Humpries or something.
by Twolves for ever and ever on Jul 1, 2010 12:29 AM CDT reply actions
3 way?
I don’t see Memphis wanting Al for any reason when they already owe a lot to Randolph. I could see a 3 way with Dallas where we send Al to Dallas, Dallas sends Dampier’s voidable contract to Memphis, and Memphis sends Gay to us. Makes sense.
Rockets met with Bosh
They could actually put together a relatively attractive sign and trade package for Toronto, with expirings, Hill/Budinger, and the Knicks draft picks.
We Are the Washington Generals
by Eric in Madison on Jul 1, 2010 12:32 AM CDT reply actions
Is it possible Pekovic was signed so quickly because Kahn wants to use him in a sign and trade?
by Achilles Fang 1 on Jul 1, 2010 12:34 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Doubtful
Given that no one can sign a contract until July 8th, only verbal commitments can be made. Thus, it would not necessarily matter how “quickly” the verbal is made.
It could make a difference in the sales pitch though right? A GM from another team might feel more comfortable making a deal that includes Pek if he knows the amount of the contract.
by Achilles Fang 1 on Jul 1, 2010 12:39 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
From Chris Sheridan
Clippers released statement saying they’ve been invited to speak with LeBron. Say they are “honored” and will emphasize their core players
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
I find it hilarious and enjoyable
that the rumor is Lebron will not consider the Clipps unless The Donald sells to Geffen.
Funny on so many levels. One player is so powerful as to cause the sale of the entire franchise. One owner is so awful as to require removal in order to attact a free agent.
The funniest part? The Donald won’t do it, even if he makes a ton of $$ and would provide loyal Clipps fans with a parting gift of Bron.
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Jul 1, 2010 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Lebron wants to make a decision by July 5th
by Achilles Fang 1 on Jul 1, 2010 12:35 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
It was on ESPN. I am using my phone that is why there is no link. Maybe tomorrow. Also SUCK IT.
by Achilles Fang 1 on Jul 1, 2010 3:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey now.
You can tell me to suck it on July 5th if LeBron has made a decision by then. I see now that Bucher was the one to report that, but I don’t believe him either. Why would LeBron wait only 5 days to make this decision when he has a whole month to do so?
Apologies if this has been posted already
MP3 of Dear Leader’s conference call regarding FA
http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news/David__Kahn__Discusses__Free__Agency__2010_06_30.html
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
He's been asked the duplication question for
both Love v Lee and Wes v Gay
- Has essentially said Lee is a more rounded player than Love.
- Thinks Wes could play SG with Gay on court.
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
KAHNNN
Why is he spending 15 min on one of the busiest nights of the year to spit b.s. about his motives and moves when he should be on the phones dealing? I expect no sleep from him until Al is gone and we have Favors.
Because his love-line 800 number
dial for sex line is overdrawn right now. Wolves budget is limited,
Bosh sweepstakes
The Houston proposal for Bosh is every bit as formidable as the Chicago proposal on a sign and trade with Raptors. Lots of chips with talent remaining.
I'm just bummed.
I really wish Rudy Gay and Kevin Love were on the same team so we could have a Gay Love pick and roll or maybe a Gay Love alley opp. Then there is the all inruiging Gay Love fastbreak. (Now I can only wonder).
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