Charlotte Bobcats interested in Sessions!!!
by MNfan15 on Jul 14, 2010 9:57 AM CDT
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PrintEveryone one is wondering how come we are signing Luke Ridnour, well hell for I know, but I do know that as of late Ramon Sessions has been shopped for a possible salary dump, as of rumors swirling around the web, I do believe regardless of his play last year and role, he still has value of some, but where would he be traded too and for what, I don't know that either, but I do know as of this morning I found on a ESPN article and on Twitter (that I put up below) that the Charlotte Bobcats are interested in Ramon Sessions, but who would we take back from them to make it work in Khans Philosophy. Who should we trade him too and what should we get back, also should we also include Ryan Hollins, Corey Brewer or Kosta Koufos in the trade for something bigger, not to say either of those players have HIGH Value at all???
Charlotte still needs a point guard and, according to sources with knowledge of the team's thinking, has expressed interest in Minnesota's Ramon Sessions.
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According to ESPN's Marc Stein Charlotte has expressed interest in Minnesota's Ramon Sessions. http://ning.it/cPtANQ
Here is the link:
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=5377055
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The ideal trade is
Sessions, Brewer, Hollins, and Koufos for Dampier. (Charlotte needs matching salaries). I can’t imagine Charlotte doing that, but it would be pretty sweet.
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by Eric in Madison on Jul 14, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't know that I would do Sessions for Dampier straight up without moving
at least one more contract.
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by Eric in Madison on Jul 14, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
There's no way I would be ok with that
Sessions is close to Ridnour and, at the very least, there is not enough favor for Ridnour (if any at all) to make it worth the extra year.
Sessions is a net positive asset and should not be traded for nothing. I’m going to keep harping on this maximization of assets and this would not be it. I’d much much much rather get Fernandez from Portland somehow.
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Not nothing
Taking Hollins away is a net positive. I still wouldn’t make that deal though. Add a couple 2nd rounders at least.
Hollins + Sessions for Dampier
is a different question. That I would probably do (just because I think Sessions for Ridnour is largely a wash for our particular team, though Sessions > Ridnour for most teams in the league, so I also think we could get more value than just dropping Hollins’ small, but annoying, commitment).
Sessions for Dampier? When we already have the capspace? No thanks. Though I guess it does take one more team out of the race to pickup players at the deadline. And this part can not be overlooked. How important is it? I have no idea.
Rudy Gay: Feeding his family since 7/1/10
very diabolical
I like it.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Jul 14, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
No, they can take more than one player back
What they can’t do, I think, is combine Dampier with another player for a couple of months.
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by Eric in Madison on Jul 14, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
That sounds right
I know there are some restrictions with adding players, wasn’t sure which side had the restrictions.
Sounds good.
I’d try to get a 1st rounder back, maybe throw in one of our non-Rubio/Pek “rights held” players if they want.
if we can get rid of hollins
I consider it a victory. The difference between Sessions and Ridnour (assuming same contract price) is minimal. Freeing up Hollins roster spot and cap hold is gravy and also small enough to make it worthwhile for Charlotte.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Jul 14, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Why
Would Charlotte need to match salaries? The Wolves are significantly under the cap, can’t they just absorb Dampier’s contract and then decide later whether or not to cut him?
Yes
Ignore my above. My brain, as is often the case, was not working properly when I typed that. As soon as I clicked post, I realized it made no sense.
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by Eric in Madison on Jul 14, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Gerald Henderson?
Not knowing how much value Sessions actually has, would asking for Gerald Henderson be too much? Larry Brown hates the young guys and Henderson could fill the need at SG.
I personally have no interest in Henderson
I don’t think he’s very good.
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by Eric in Madison on Jul 14, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe
Are you basing this off his college career or what he did last year? He hardly got any playing time so I’m going to guess you are basing this off his college skill set.
Charlotte doesn’t really have anything else I’d be interested in that they’d be willing to trade. Henderson is on his rookie contract and doesn’t cost much, was one of the other factors in my thinking. Depending on what happens with Pekovic, I could see Kahn trading Sessions for the corpse of Nazr Mohammed and a 2nd round pick.
I'd rather try to pry Dampier's contract
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by Eric in Madison on Jul 14, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Is Jordan an idiot?
Why would Charlotte trade Dampier’s expiring for Sessions? That seems like a horrible trade in my opinion. If I’m Kahn I suppose I’d do that trade but at what point is he going to start using some of this cap space? EIM, you usually know your stuff, do you know what the Cap Floor is? If the Wolves traded Sessions for Dampier’s expiring I’d assume they’d be below that floor.
The cap floor is 75% of the cap
which this year should put it around $43.5 million. They will find a way to spend that much; I’m not worried about it.
I wouldn’t do it if I were Jordan, no, but there isn’t anything else I’m interested in on the Bobs.
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by Eric in Madison on Jul 14, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Henderson trade
A Sessions for Henderson trade saves the Wolves about $1.5 million this year and they wouldn’t have to pick up his option and they could release him after this season. Plus I do think Henderson has some upside at a position the Wolves are currenlty lacking.
Bring back Cardinal
on a one year deal at whatever salary level brings us to the floor. Easiest solution to that problem.
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by biggity2bit on Jul 14, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Base it on everything.
Henderson is just a turd. He’s an undersized shooting guard with nice hops, but no real skill to hang his hat on. He was overrated coming off a good but not great junior year, and got drafted even higher based on his alma mater and the team drafting him.
I was going to suggest Cleveland
But it looks like they signed Kyle Lowry to an Offer-Sheet. I’m unsure how Charlotte or Indy could assume Sessions for Cap-Space.
The only possibility would be Sessions/Beasley or Pekovic plus Hollins and Kosta for the Dampier expiring. I doubt this is a real good idea though.
we dont' necessarily need to send additional players
for Damp’s contract because we are under the cap.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Jul 14, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Sessions to Bobcats...
needs to almost involve another team unless the Bell TPE has not expired yet. I see no one that we can waive right away or anyone that proves any use that the Jordans would like to let go
I think their aiming a bit higher than Ramon Sessions
with the Dampier contract. Although Jordan is crazy- so what do I know.
I don't see the value in the Dampier contract here
the big names are signed and there are now too many teams with big trade exceptions that the pool of cap space has diluted itself. Dallas obviously couldn’t get too much out of the contract, so I doubt Charlotte will either.
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How about Sessions, Brewer and Hollins for Dampier’s contract?
In addition to needing a PG, Brewer would be a decent back-up to Wallace and Stephen Jackson.
by TWolvesFanInLA on Jul 14, 2010 11:39 AM CDT reply actions
Without thinking twice.
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by Eric in Madison on Jul 14, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I would do that.
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by Denny Hocking on Jul 14, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd consider it
but I still think Brewer, more than anyone on our team, would benefit the most (in terms of production/value) from being surrounded by talent, on both ends of the floor. So in a way, I feel like we’re almost giving up Sessions AND Brewer just to get rid of Hollins. The extra cap space? Nice, but we most likely don’t need it this year and could just let Brewer go anyways.
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I would rather trade Sessions to a team with cap space so we don’t have to take anything back. We need to get rid of a point guard (Sessions) and a wing (Brewer) to get our rotations right. If Pek isn’t coming over we could use a back up center but if worse comes to worse we can give Hollins some minutes.
by Achilles Fang 1 on Jul 14, 2010 11:54 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
We still need Brewer...
as I’m not convinced Ellington is a legit rotation player. Let Brewer play out the last year of his deal and take Webster’s leftover minutes. Brewer becomes expendable only if we can get a great SG at the deadline, in which case he rides the pine for a couple months, then walks. No biggie. If we move Brewer now without getting another 2 back in return who’s at least as competent, you can just scratch 5 wins off our season total right now.
(this is me doubting Ellington, not overvaluing Brewer)
+1
let’s not cut into too much of the muscle of this organization. We’ve already trimmed the fat (well, except for Hollins).
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by Rasho Revolution on Jul 14, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess I see your point.
We just happen to disagree. I think Ellington fits well in the role of last guy off the bench. His offensive I.Q. is higher than Brewer’s and he is the best proven outside shooter on the team. Corey is going to want minutes. So now between the two wing spots Brewer, Johnson, Webster are all going to need minutes. Plus Ellington needs some at the two and Beasley will need some minutes at the three. To me that is too many guys for two spots. I would rather thin out the roster than have someone ride the pine. Creating team chemistry is huge when your team consist of average players. We need to do whatever we can to avoid discourse in the locker room.
by Achilles Fang 1 on Jul 14, 2010 2:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
We don't want anyone talking??
Perhaps you meant discord ;)
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how about this???
I put this trade together from the ESPN trade machine, it works money wise, but not sure if any of these teams would do it, maybe I’m dream, probably am, what do you all think?
I would absoutely do this.
But Portland would absolutely not do this.
Holy cats.
Elaborate trade, and each piece seems to make some sense.
But yes, BlazersEdgers would be jumping out the first-floor windows of their Craftsmen houses if this were to come to fruition.
The Wolves portion, though, is dreamy.
Yeah
pretty sure Love would have to be going to Portland to make these even slightly possible.
No way Portland is giving up Batum, Oden, and Andre Mller for Terrance Williams, Sessions, and expirings..Also think NJ like Williams too much to trade him for Brewer.
This makes a little more sense
While I like this trade also
I don’t see Portland giving up all that.
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by frankenhoops on Jul 14, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry
as sweet as it is for the Wolves, none of the other teams would even consider it, I believe.
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by frankenhoops on Jul 14, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Livingston to Charlotte
Chad Ford twated that Livingston signed with Charlotte so Sessions is of no interest to them anymore
oops
not chad ford, yahoo’s Wojnarowski reported it through twitter
how about the Cavs???
I just found this on twitter, since maybe the bobcats aren’t interested in sessions anymore, maybe the Cavs aren’t interested in sessions, because the Rockets GM Daryl Morey plans on matching K. Lowry’s offer sheet from the Cavs, but what would we get from the Cavs???
here is the Tweet:
dmorey
Congratulations to Kyle Lowry on signing his new deal. We plan to match the agreement and we are excited he will be returning to the Rockets
Let's be honest
It’s probably going to be Sessions and Hollins for Nazir Mohammed.
With Pekovic on the fences he provides depth as a backup and if Pekovic does come you can waive him or just play him if they get hit by injuries. Either way he’s an expiring contract that could be attractive at the deadline. I doubt they will get picks from Charliote.
Pekovic is coming
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by Eric in Madison on Jul 14, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
3 way
Sessions and Brewer go to charlotte, Dampier, Hollins, and one of our future firsts from the Al trade goes to philly, we get Iggy
Flynn/Ridnour
Iggy/Webster
Wes/Hayward
Love/Beasley
Darko/Pek
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