Kahn continues "transparency"
by NYCVike on Jul 22, 2010 1:38 PM CDT
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I found this quote from Twolvesblog. Apparantly its from an ESPN radio interview.
But Kahn continues to speak highly of the former No. 2 overall pick's potential -- in part because Beasley has assured him he's done with dope.
"He's a very young and immature kid who smoked too much marijuana and has told me that he's not smoking anymore, and I told him that I would trust him as long as that was the case," Kahn said this morning, during an interview that will air at 1:40 p.m. on 1500 ESPN Twin Cities
Talk about transparency. That might be a little too out there publicly for my taste, but maybe its a good thing to get in out into the open. Whatever helps Mr. Beasley move forward in his career I'm all for it.
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He’s a very young and immature kid who smoked too much marijuana…
Well, good to know B-Easy is starting fresh.
stupid copy and paste...
and has told me that he’s not smoking anymore
Seems like
Minnesota is a really good place for a kid to start over. Especially after being in such a city as Miami to start your career.
Shrewd move
to get that info out now too. Whatever sh!t is going to hit the fan because of it will be really minor now versus later. In Minnesota it’s best to do things this way – people will grumble and accept it and move on without it being a big deal. If something happens later we’re at least in a position to be more supportive him of him, although we might crucify him as well (just not as badly as we would if we didn’t know he’d smoked pot before hand). It’s like Al and his DUI – come right out, take the heat, and move on. If the team had tried to cover it up or dragged on too long without acknowledging it then we’d start breaking out the pitchforks and torches.
"Styx might be the mullet of bands."
Would it have been so hard for Kahn to have just said “He’s a kid who made some bad decisions and had some growing up to do. He’s matured a lot and is ready to put all the distractions he dealt with behind him.”? Why announce to the world “He used to smoke pot but promised me he wouldn’t anymore”? It’s bad for Beasley’s image and if he doesn’t improve substantially this year, people will assume Kahn is an idiot for believing him, even if he really isn’t smoking anymore. I just don’t think that’s something for Kahn to come out and say. If Beasley wanted to announce that, that’s his decision. Kahn saying it on the radio just feels wrong to me.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
I usually don't care what comes out of Kahn's mouth
but this is one time I really think he should have taken a different approach to discussing that topic.
D-bag voice, non-D-bag voice. The struggle for his soul…continues!
"Can someone please help me out, who did wolves pick, doesnt look too positive around here"
by Rasho Revolution on Jul 22, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Triple that!
Pretty egocentric to feel he is the 1 that need to highlight the exact personal demon
by PURPLEPUSSYEATER on Jul 23, 2010 4:01 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Did he say it in response to a question, though?
It is not like this isn’t all publicly known or anything. Beasley past recreational use of marijuana is well documented. I do not see a big deal here. These were known well prior to the acquisition. Who cares?
Knowing the context would be helpful here; you’re right. But even if the question was “So, I hear Mike smoked a lot of weed—how do you feel about that?” I think the response has to be more tactful. I just think saying “He smoked too much marijuana” is a bad way of putting it. But you’re right, if it’s in response to a direct question about his past drug use, then it makes a lot more sense.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
It makes more sense
but I still think, even with a question like that, it’s not that hard to side step the question or refuse to comment on something like that. I agree with your above post.
Actively looking for red flags since my 5th grade traveling team
Yeah, when I say “tactful” I basically mean saying “That’s not a part of Mike’s life anymore, I’m not worried about it.”
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
These facets
of Kahn’s mannerisms remind me so much of Michael Scott that it makes me want to give an “eye bulge” to the camera.
The Michael Scott voice over David Kahn quotes is a little too dead-on, isn’t it?
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
Yet despite
Michael Scotts personal oddities, he still was the best regional manager at Dunder Mifflin.
Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?
by the Real Thor on Jul 23, 2010 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Just listened to the whole interview. It wasn’t a direct question. Kahn just announced it after being asked “Why do you think Beasley’s problems are overblown?” I agree with the reasoning. If his only problem was pot and he actually stopped smoking, then this shouldn’t be an issue. My problem is that it seems totally unnecessary to bring it up, unprompted.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
Here. Click on the hour 2 tab and Kahn starts about 2/3s of the way into it.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
Is there anyone in the world that didn't think BEasy for smoking marijuana
I don’t see this as a big deal – I think everyone that cares knows what he was doing.
by Breaking Ankles on Jul 22, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s not new news, but it’s not really right for Kahn to talk to the media about it. Kahn doesn’t have all the facts here and I don’t think that it’s right for him to say anything about Beasley’s past. If Kahn doesn’t bring it up or ducks the question, we aren’t talking about it now. The more often this gets brought up, the longer it sticks with Beasley. If I’m Kahn, I want to keep that storyline in Miami and not bring it along to Minneapolis to the greatest extent that’s possible.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
One more reason why Kahn
needs to get out of the public eye. He doesn’t do well there. I like his basketball moves, but not his interviews.
by NYCVike on Jul 22, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I get it - he could have been more tactful
It just doesn’t bother me. If he felt that BEasy would be sensitive about it I don’t think he would have said anything – unless he is just a complete idiot.
by Breaking Ankles on Jul 22, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t think it’s a huge deal, but things like this add up. It’s bad for everyone if he keeps being a little too honest pretty much all the time. As GM, he’s part salesman, both to other GMs and to his fans. Creating the best possible image is part of his job. Little dings to that image whenever he comes near a microphone hurts the organization.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
Yeah it is kindof like having Bobby Knight as your PR guy
He would just tell em like it is. Part of me likes that and the other part of me wants a bit more PC statements because he is dealing with young men – some of them kids, really – and they could become offended by his statements.
by Breaking Ankles on Jul 22, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps not his place, but...
at least he is saying it’s just pot. At least it wasn’t something serious. Perhaps he had been involved in other things – women, weapons, harder drugs – dangerous stuff.
I much prefer him saying it was just pot compared to the “youthful indiscretions” that a former President mentioned in a campaign. That leaves so much more to the imagination.
Illinois: My governor is a bigger crook than your governor
this is true
my first reaction was, Michael Beasley’s problem was pot? As far as problems go, it seems solvable. he’s not Josh Hamilton apparently.
I was thinking TMI too
But this could be a Konning™ move by Kahn.
While it would normally make sense to keep manners inside the tent, the monkey effectively moves from Kahn’s shoulders entirely to Beasley’s with the whole world as observers.
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
Do you trust Beasley to carry that weight successfully? It might be the right move for David Kahn, but I’m not sure it’s the right move for the Minnesota Timberwolves. Everyone already knew about Beasley’s stint in rehab, so it’s not like it was a secret, just an unnecessary rehash (no pun intended). There was no point in Kahn giving us all an easy blurb to focus on. Just say his problems are behind him and move on.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
To be honest
I don’t think its a big deal at all personally, but this is the exact type of thing that can be latched on to in this crazy media culture and blown out of proportion. Let’s hope BS doesn’t get ahold of it. Otherwise they’ll find some way to cause a rift between Kahn and Beasley. Not what we need when we’re hoping Beasley will be our new best player.
Careful now
When you use a phrase like “everyone already knew….” I would be surprised if half of the Timberwolves fan base knew anything about Beasley’s bout with rehab. It’s not like he is a major celebrity, he was a bit player in Miami.
Kahn might have been motivated for one of three reasons: (1) he can’t keep a secret, (2) he wanted Beasley to bear the brunt of his problem on his own instead of hiding it out of sight; thereby, causing a co-dependent relationship with the team, or (3) he wanted to brag about what a great deal he got by signing a guy who has overcome his problem that may have hampered his performance with the Heat.
I’d like to think it was #2, but tend to think it could well have been a combination of all the above.
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
When you use a phrase like "everyone already knew…." I would be surprised if half of the Timberwolves fan base knew anything about Beasley’s bout with rehab. It’s not like he is a major celebrity, he was a bit player in Miami.
Fair point, it was common knowledge in the sense that Beasley was part of the league’s substance abuse program and widely reported, but casual fans definitely might have been unaware. Poor wording on my part. That said, this was not a secret. People who find out about it later in the year will not have solved a mystery and probably won’t really care if Beasley is playing well and doesn’t appear to be stoned on the basketball court.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
My god, Lindsey Lohan is in jail!!!
for Heaven’s sake. Beasley is but a pimple on her behind by comparison. Where’s the mercy…
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
I agree
Beasley’s stint in rehab was well documented, and out there for any one who reads the sports page.
Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?
by the Real Thor on Jul 23, 2010 7:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t call the second-leading scorer and third-leading rebounder for a playoff team a “bit player.”
by pagingstanleyroberts on Jul 22, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
oh, please
they made the POs because of Wade against a weak bottom end of Eastern conference. Beasley was second-leading scorer and third leading rebounder to first round disaster.
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
cut the snark
Brian Cardinal is a bit player. Nathan Jawai is a bit player. Oleksiy Pecherov is a bit player. “Bit players” are guys who don’t play regularly in a rotation. The guy was the second overall pick and a significant contributor to a team regularly on national broadcasts.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Jul 22, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Sweeping it under the rug
rings of co-dependency. Most rehabs frown on co-dependency in terms of recovery.
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
It’s not being swept under the rug. It was made public years ago. Bringing up again for no real reason isn’t helpful. If he’s actually done smoking, this was totally pointless. If he’s still in the middle of rehabbing, adding more public spotlight isn’t doing him any good.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
I agree, but...
He got busted with pot at the rookie symposium 2 years ago. Pretty sure that’s not a shocker.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Jul 22, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
To CH and other board participants
it is not a shocker, but let’s not assume more than a small percentage of fans actually frequent the boards or lodge into their long term memory something that a rookie on another team in a different conference did two-year-ago.
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
Is this news?
Didn’t everybody already know that he has smoked dope? Didn’t the league already bust him and his teammates his rookie year? I don’t think Beasley’s image is hurt by this statement because it is old news. He already had that image. I don’t know, this just doesn’t seem like anything to me. But, NBA news has slowed a bit so I guess it is something to talk about.
He called C-Webb a "Schmuck"
He also implied that Webber was biased because of a relationship with McHale from NBA TV and had an agenda.
Mplax posted the link in his FanShot, atually
http://1500espn.com/shows/reusse
Actively looking for red flags since my 5th grade traveling team
Wow, I haven't listened to this show before
How did a guy with such a terrible voice get a radio show? This is hard to listen to…
Actively looking for red flags since my 5th grade traveling team
he sucks
you can hear him breathing heavy when hes not talking.
by Brad Schneider on Jul 22, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok
After listening to the interview its doesn’t come across anywhere near as inept on the recording as it does in text form.
I’ll let this slide, but I still think he should just shut up and let Rambis take the reigns and talk about what he’s gonna do with the players we have now.
I did like that Kahn said that Pek is close to signing
Actively looking for red flags since my 5th grade traveling team
Lutefisk, the only antidote
Anyone ever hear of lutefisk madness?
Now, about those “long walks in the park” Michael?
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
maybe if they served Lutefisk outside Target Center on game nights
attendance would increase inside the Target Center (i.e., away from the Lutefisk)
I'm wondering if
Lutefisk can liquefied be injected into Beasley’s tattooed arm?
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
there are lots of parks
in MN. Beasley should have plenty of fun places to spend his time, when he’s not playing basketball here.
Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?
by the Real Thor on Jul 23, 2010 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm more concerned with his running feud with NBA.TV
Sure, I disliked C-Webb’s childish manner when he interviewed Kahn, but now Kahn risks bringing the entire crew of NBA.TV down on him and, consequently, the Wolves.
You know that NBA.TV is going to side with Mac and C-Webb over Kahn on this.
Boneheaded comment by Kahn.
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
Yeah, that seemed pretty petty on Kahn's part
The whole interview just reeked of that kind of stuff.
Actively looking for red flags since my 5th grade traveling team
This comment borders on illegal.
This I can accurately comment on as a member of an HR department. If Beasley’s stint in rehab was due to a marijuana addiction, then commenting publicly about it might violate Beasley’s right to privacy during a “medical situation.” I don’t know the specifics of the situation, but I do know that discussing it with the rest of your business, much less to say the general public, can be very sticky if/when illegal activity is involved.
Talking myself into DeMarcus Cousins since 5/18/10
Remotely possible, I guess
But it depends on whether the privacy agreement was between the two principals, Beasley and the Heat, or the NBA in general.
Since Beasley and (I presume) Riley, considered the matter resolved, I doubt there is anything building into the Wolves contract in that regard.
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
You can't blame Kahn for this
as he has absolutely no training in either legal or media matters.
by PoorDick on Jul 22, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's a relief
Cause there isn’t much jurisprudence from a former loyer
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
Yep - very iffy situation
I’ve created alot of HR/Legal/Substance Abuse/Harassment training over the years.
This would have been a great “don’t do this” example if it weren’t so frickin OBVIOUS that you shouldn’t do it.
But the world of sports is different from the corporate world, so I’m sure nothing will come of it. Still, my trust in Kahn continues to flag with each passing day.
Kahn is a lawyer
I’m sure he knows the ins and outs of every NBA personal conduct policy. He new he was going to mention it eventually. Now we just have to figure out exactly why.
You don't really think Kahn divulged this info on his own accord?
Kahn is smarter than that. I am sure he, Beasley and his agent decided this was prudent thing to do now, rather than have it come up sometime in the future.
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Where it’s okay to covertly impugn one’s character or competence behind the cloak of anonymity but not okay to speak openly and candidly and own one’s opinions.
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10 Signs Beas is puffing the evil weed
#10. Kurt Rambis approaches him on the bench say, “Michael?….Hello, Michael?….Michael, are you there?”
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
#9. The Wolves hire a talking, cartoon towel as an equipment manager.
"Can someone please help me out, who did wolves pick, doesnt look too positive around here"
by Rasho Revolution on Jul 22, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Love Towlie so much
Sadly, however, he’s moved on from innocently asking his friends if they “wanna get hiiigh?” to taking straight hits of pressurized air in the seat of his car. He’s fallen so far.
Went too far with the Beasley weed stuff
If Beasley wants to come out with that, fine, it’s him.
Kahn has no filter and loves the media attention. Other GM-types/owners share this “quality” — Cuban, Steinbrenner, and so on. Makes them more interesting. I’d like the team to be more interesting, too. If we win, Kahn’s act is great. If not, it will get real old. I’m enjoying it for now, but….
If the comments weren't illegal...
…then I’m in favor of them. He told us what Beasley was in trouble for, rather than having a cloak over it, leaving outsiders to guess and leap to worse conclusions. He gets it out there now, way before the season.
It’ll be interesting to see Peter Vecsey’s take on it, though. If Beasley takes off or fizzles out, this is the kind of thing he’ll run with. But then, Vecsey and Kahn are old NBC colleagues.
Wait
whats wrong with weed?
You play to win the game.
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