Wolves Updates 7/3
Lee to visit Wolves on Saturday, some of team's summer league game to be televised and more
From Jerry Zgoda/Star Tribune: David Lee will visit Wolves, just in case
As things stand now, the Wolves have only about $5 million of their accumulated salary-cap space to spend after they reached contract terms with center Darko Milicic and Nikola Pekovic.
They also still have power forwards Al Jefferson and Kevin Love on their roster.
So why would Lee take a day to visit with Wolves personnel, including team owner Glen Taylor?
"These things change really quickly," said Mark Bartelstein, Lee's agent. "All kinds of trades and things can happen. We just want to see what happens."
From John Hollinger/ESPN:
The first free-agent contract of the summer might have been the worst. The feeding frenzy had barely started when word came from up north that the Wolves had signed Darko Milicic to a four-year, $20 million deal. Short of offering the rest of his free-agent money to Kwame Brown, I'm not sure what more embattled Wolves GM David Kahn could have done to cement the impression that he's in over his head.
Milicic had his moments after he came over from New York last season and gave Minnesota something of a defensive presence in the middle, but the two questions I always have to ask when I see a deal like this are: (1) Who were they bidding against? (2) What's a reasonable expectation for this player going forward?
From J.A. Adande/ESPN:
When I told a member of the Timberwolves that Milicic had signed for $20 million, his first reaction was "Wow!" But he did have some good things to say about Darko. He can move well for his size, he can block shots and he can pass, a good asset for the center in the triangle offense.
Also, he added, "We were better defensively when he was on the floor."
The unit of Milicic, Jonny Flynn, Corey Brewer, Al Jefferson and Ryan Gomes did have the best plus/minus among the Timberwolves' seven most-used combinations. So there's that. Still, $20 million for Darko?
"That's David Kahn for you," one player agent said. "As agents, we are loving it."
From Sid Hartman:
Darko Milicic agreed to a four-year, $20 million contract with the Timberwolves on Thursday. The center seemed likely to return to play in Europe when he joined the Wolves late last season, but he liked it here and the team persuaded him to return. Milicic was the second overall pick in the 2003 NBA draft by Detroit, right behind LeBron James and ahead of Carmelo Anthony. Wolves coach Kurt Rambis was responsible for scouting Detroit when he was an assistant for the Los Angeles Lakers, and liked Milicic. Rambis suggested Wolves President David Kahn get Milicic last season from the Knicks. "We see a lot of potential in him," Rambis said. "He can do a lot of things for us at both ends of the floor. The very interesting thing is he's still very young. He's only 25 after being in the league for seven years, so we see a tremendous upside."
From Hardwood Paroxysm: Kahn Re-Signs Darko For Four Years: Cue Shatner
When you're as bad as the Wolves have been for the past five years, there are all kinds of traps you can fall into, and they're all borne of desperation.
The stickiest trap of all: Players outside of your organization look good, because they're better than what you've got. It's the basketball version of beer goggles.
From Jerry Zgoda/Star Tribune:
New Timberwolves Nikola Pekovic and Nemanja Bjelica won't participate in summer league play because of commitments to their national teams, but you can catch three of five games that Wesley Johnson, Lazar Hayward as well as Jonny Flynn, Wayne Ellington and Patrick O'Bryant will play on NBA TV.
From Emma Greenwood/Cairns Post:
NATHAN Jawai's stint with the Minnesota Timberwolves could be over, with the NBA restricted free agent set to line up with the Charlotte Bobcats in the summer league.
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Bjelica definitely will be with us
just not during summer league
Dear Alex Gordon:
I still think you will be awesome, but for the love of God, please stop getting hurt.
Sincerely,
RF
and to your other question
I doubt we have any big names come visit other than Lee (who we hopefully won’t sign, IMO). Any big name that may be a wolf next year will come via an Al Jeff trade, and therefore won’t be visiting beforehand.
Dear Alex Gordon:
I still think you will be awesome, but for the love of God, please stop getting hurt.
Sincerely,
RF
Surely Lee will cancel the visit.
We don’t have the money or the need for his skillset and he will have plenty of leverage on the East Coast when the top tier make their decisions.
Shame about Jawai; he needs time and Europe would the best place to get the prolonged court time against quality opposition.
"I was trying to focus on breathing," Milicic said. "I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
Lee will come in
If for no other reason than “you never know”. We’re trading Jefferson, we could trade Pek, we could trade Love….you just never know
And Lee and Darko would admittedly be pretty solid together
Wouldn't be opposed to Lee
but he’s prolly going to get overpaid by somebody and that won’t be us. Kahn knows to avoid bad contracts.
“Kahn knows to avoid bad horrible contracts.”
Hollins.. not good
Pek.. reasonable
Milicic… eh, not good but possibly OK
Darko worth the risk
Rather than throwing money blindly around, it’s a calculated risk. You have a player that’s damaged goods, a coach who’s started to get through to him, and a system that suits his game. So you roll the dice and give him a decent salary, making him feel wanted and appreciated. Hopefully he rewards by being dedicated to coming in, in incredible shape and being a big part of the team. If we does, and plays hard, that $5 million per will seem like a bargain. And if not, then we our done with him in 3 years.
Heard the same thing last year
…about Hollins. Not so much the in-shape part, but that he could be coached into being a basketball player and not just an “athlete”. Well, that hasn’t worked so far, and 2 more years of him seem like an eternity. I REALLY hope Darko is a different story, but we don’t know yet.
Failure or Success
Would it be a failure or a success to come away from free agency with David Lee, Ronnie Brewer and Udonis Haslem?
Granted, that’s a lot of power forwards, but I think Haslem’s an underrated workhorse. He’d need to accept a backup role, of course.
We could
always start 3 PF’s and then have four more on the bench just in case.
by WhiteManCantWrite on Jul 3, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm in the Fire Kahn Camp, but...
I’m with him on the Darko signing. All these national sports writers see is Darko the bust, and not what we got out of him the past few years. So we get Darko age 25-29 for $5M a year… works for me.
Oh, and John Hollinger, as to who we were competing against – other European professional teams – jackass.
by gill0137 on Jul 3, 2010 3:05 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
So many of the national writers
And most local ones are such bandwagon feeders. Piling on is easy and is what they do.
Let us say the Spurs drafted Pekovic a couple years ago. And just recently signed him to a 3 yr $13 million contract. Who here doubts the Spurs would be praised once again for such a clever move. And more research would have been done on the subject, thus, realizing we are competing agains European clubs for some of these contracts.
What I’m trying to say is Suck It ESPN, Yahoo, and many others. A lot of our moves have been neither great nor bad. They need time to pan out in order to see the result.
+1
if the writers want to talk about bad contracts why don’t they talk about Rudy Gay getting 16m per year for 5 years. makes me glad I’m not a griz fan.
Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?
by the Real Thor on Jul 3, 2010 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
not to mention...
they were competing against Darko’s previous $7.5 million contract. What genius signed him to that wonder? In general, workers regardless of their occupation do not enjoy taking massive pay cuts whether or not they were previously overpaid. Even though basketball players make salaries most of us could only dream of, they are no different. Secondly, we were competing against Darko’s lack of confidence. By all accounts he seemed pretty down on himself after being labeled the biggest draft bust in history along with Sam Bowie. Do you think paying him a salary reserved for mid-level rookies and bench players would have made him a more confident basketball player and better teammate?
Bad argument
Maybe paying him like a starting player will make him feel entitled to playing time and feed his ego unnecessarily. Paying him a little less might make him “hungrier” and more willing to work.
Maybe paying him like a starting player ????
How in the world do you think that $5M a year is starting pay in this league for a guy with 7 years of experience? It’s backup money for a center or just slightly above the Mid Level exception.
He is worth this amount of risk. At his best, he is the best center on the Twolves in a long time. At his worst, he is a big body who can give you 6 fouls in the paint and knock some people around.
Who do you propose we sign for $5M per year that is better?
Draft Bust Redemption...
Darko will never be a star (and we didn’t pay him like a star with this contract).
But hopefully with The Wolves, he can redeem himself and almost become a sympathetic figure the way that Tony Mandarich did when he got clean and came back and had a pretty productive run with the Colts’ OL.
I think perceptions of him will dramatically change if he can average 10-8-2 over the life of this four-year contract and The Wolves make it to the playoffs.
Hey
A career average of 4.2-6.5-1.6 can earn you a richer per year contract than Darko’s at an older age than Darko, if you play for Portland.
"Styx might be the mullet of bands."
Pekovic criticism?
I’m sure there has been some criticism of the Pekovic signing in the national media, but everything I’ve read has been very positive on bringing in Pekovic.
The contract they’ve been killing is the Darko deal.
BTW, Fox Sports Radio just...
had the first even remotely positive comment to say about The Wolves’ signing of Darko Milicic… something along the lines of this:
“The Hakim Warrick signing was the worst one so far in free agency… even worse than Milicic’s contract.”
I guess that’s sort of positive, right?

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