Melo Trade Ideas
by twolf1 on Aug 29, 2010 2:19 PM CDT
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So, we have already been mentioned as a top contender in the trade market for Melo. Obviously we aren't going to trade for him unless he agrees to resign. Personally I would trade any combination of two of the following: Ricky, Wes Johnson, Kevin Love, Michael Beasley, Jonny Flynn and also the Utah or Memphis first round pick. I know it's all just rumor, but what are your guys' offers? Assuming he resigns with us that is.
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This board believes Love is two Carloz Boozers rolled into 1
I’ll trade Wes, Beasley and whatever else helps to make the deal to see Melo and Kevin “Two Boozers In One” Love try win a championship for the Wolves.
Putting 40.7% into context, Carlos Boozer had the league’s 4th best TReb% among those who qualified with 19.4%. Love’s 40.7% is equivalent to having two Carlos Boozers rebounding for you, in one player!
This does not mean that Love is twice the player that Carlos Boozer is. No one made that claim. What it means is over the last few games Love has been rebounding like two Carlos Boozers at once. Instead of trying to make something sound ridiculous because you don’t think Love is a world beater, try to argue against real points that people are actually making. Something tells me that no one would say that Kevin Love is twice is good as Carlos Boozer, so disagreeing with an imaginary argument is a waste of time.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
GREAT POINT SIR!
Interviewer: Can you understand why teams value potential ahead of experience and accomplishment in the draft? Wes Johnson: "Yeah. I understand. It’s the youngness of everything – older guys like young women, so it’s the same way."
I would expect that it would have to include our best Small forward.
to replace a small forward unless it gets complicated. I am somewhat bothered that he is turning down I think I read 3 years for 65 million (almost 22 mil a year). That would take a lot of matching. I think in a trade, NY might have more stiffs to throw in, I would part with Ridnour ( with Flynn back) then Brewer and or Webster and Toliver and a pick other than our own.
Anyone other than Rubio and Love should be on the table.
We needed a #1 and he is a #1.
Rubio, who art thou savior.
+1
If this has legs, which I’m sure it doesn’t, the Wolves should offer whatever they can to have a trio of Rubio, Carmelo, and Love. Fill in the gaps around that, and you’re a really entertaining 50-win team with a shot at a championship in the right year.
TANGENT ALERT
Whenever people talk about young teams having a shot at a title if things break the right way, I compare their best case scenario to the Miami Heat and get sad. Not saying the Heat are going to win every year, but for the next six years, with the possible exclusion of this year, every year that they fail to win a title will be an upset. It sucks, but at the same time, I’m kind of excited about a team openly embracing the role of villain (calling themselves “Team Dillinger” was a stroke of genius) and will probably be rooting for them come playoff time, just to set all this in motion perfectly. Plus, the Lakers won’t exactly be underdogs if they play in the finals and I can never root for the Lakers.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
I just can't see myself rooting for Miami
I liked watching James, Wade, and Bosh. They were fun to watch and the games were competitive. If Miami dominates like we think they should in the years to come, I just can’t see the entertainment value of watching them play together. At first you’ll want to watch to see how good they will be and then it turns for me to watching them to see them get beat. What they are doing isn’t cheating, but to me it feels like it. Its like rooting against the Yankees for me – i dislike teams that are bought – i prefer teams that have a heart and soul that are built.
by Breaking Ankles on Aug 30, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
But not even the Yankees have come right out and said “Piss off, world. We want to win and if you don’t like it, you can shut the hell up.” This Miami team honestly seems mad that people didn’t like how they were put together, like it surprised and offended them. I like that, and if they can embrace it, I will enjoy this team for a year or two (or at least until the Lakers aren’t their main competition) and then be excited to root for the underdog trying to knock them out after that window of interest is closed. I sort of hated this when the announcement were made, but now, I like the storylines this creates for the league. It’s good theater.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
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How in the hell did the Lakers become the good guys in all this? Have you noticed the complete lack of Lakerhate this summer? People used to love watching the Lakers get beat. Now I think they root for the Lakers to beat the piss out of BronBron.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Aug 30, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
I think this is what pisses me off more than anything – they are totally ruining my Laker-hating…
by Breaking Ankles on Aug 30, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
They haven’t become the good guys to me. I hate those guys. Under almost no circumstances could I root for that team. The circumstances that could change that would be:
-I got a job in their FO
-New brass comes in and trades Kobe Bryant away for next to nothing, because he claims he wants the organization to only employ people of good moral character.
-One of my little brothers became an awesome basketball player and was on the team.
-Both of my little brothers became awesome basketball players are were on the team.
That’s all I’ve got for now.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
c'mon
not even if they are playing the Heat in the NBA finals next year? I just really want to see the Heat come close but get shut out of the Championship gravy train and watch the drama unfold between Wade, Lebron and Bosh.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Aug 30, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
No way. I will be rooting hard for Miami if they play LA in the Finals. I want them to make Kobe Bryant cry.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
I have to disagree
because Lebron has his Finals heartbreak coming to him for his no show in every other Cav’s-Celt’s game this past postseason. You can’t dodge that kind of Karma.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Aug 30, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
My ideal playoffs would go something like this:
Conference Semis:
Thunder over Spurs in 6
Lakers over Mavs in 5
Heat over Celts in 4
Bulls over Magic in 7
Conference Finals:
Lakers over Thunder in 7
Heat over Bulls in 5
Finals:
Heat over Lakers in 4
Sets up the Heat as the ultimate villains, they add a legit center with the MLE and they start to look like the Death Star on a basketball court. Lakers have their last hurrah crushed by the Heat, prepare to pass the torch to OKC the following year. Bulls look feisty despite only winning one game, possibly leaving Miami tied 1-1, but losing Noah to suspension for game 3 due to some nasty foul on LeBron. The Magic realize they need to add a legit #2 next to Howard. And of course, the Knicks go out with a whimper in the first round despite the addition of Carmelo Anthony.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
no way, screw the heat. lebron = 0 championships for career...
after all the drama, manipulation and flatulance over “the decision”,
i want to see le-melt-down, then darth riley just get fed up and quit.
phuckin' machine took my quarter.
I assume I’ll be standing alone on this one, but I like having teams to root against and you can’t really hate a team (aside from your team’s traditional rivals) until they win a title. It really adds to the contempt.
Plus, in the interim, LeBron is still amazing to watch. I’ll take it.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
sure i can, i already do!!! eff the heat (altho i really like bosh).
phuckin' machine took my quarter.
Imagine how much disdain you’ll have if they win a title. Ultimate villains!
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
how 'bout anthony goes to chicago,
they are able to keep rose, noah, boozer core intact.
and they just rip it away from the heat in the eastern conference finals….no finals for miami.
the thunder just totally punk the lakers in the western conference finals….no finals for lakers.
all-midwest finals and david stern is pissed royal.
phuckin' machine took my quarter.
by speed-racer on Aug 30, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d love that too. If the Lakers go a decade without a title, I’ll be happy to see the Heat go a decade without one either. What I really, really don’t want is for the Lakers to win the next two, while the Heat bicker their way to failure. I want to see the Heat succeed because I think they’d make awesome villains and because I don’t want LeBron and Wade’s careers to be diminished by squabbling. A couple Heat titles gives those players the credit they deserve while giving the whole world someone to root against. I’m down for that.
But I’d happily trade those storylines to keep the Lakers away from a championship for a decade.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
that gets my vote
Karmic payback Stern. Stop F*ing with the lottery.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Aug 30, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with you there
What Bronbron did was so classless, without tact or any sort of empathy for Cleveland that I would love to see him never win the big one. For that I will even root for the evil empire in LA.
zebano...
don’t fall for a trap like that. That doesn’t give me a good impression of your chess skills.
I would prefer if OKC knocks them all off
and I can laugh at David Stern. Got to love the ratings on an OKC final. Heh.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Aug 31, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I looked at that game
and was thoroughly embarrassed.
Don't worry, I fell for that a couple times on ICC.
Also, I have a game in progress, but my opponent hasn’t moved for about a week and his time expired, but I didn’t get a win or anything. Why not?
2 possobilities
1. go to the my games page and click the skull to time him out (unless it’s a tournament game you must do this manually).
2. Game has less than 3 moves and so is not rated.
Fuck the Lakers!
that help?
You're not letting natural selection take its course! You're like the guy who invented the seatbelt...
Hopefully I'll get there
James’ head is just so big and he and his crew are so clueless that this whole thing just stinks. i hope i get over it because the guy is a once in a generation type player and we should all enjoy watching him at his best.
by Breaking Ankles on Aug 30, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
best at...
coming up short?
j/k
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Aug 30, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Think we're reading far too much into this
Denver is simply asserting that they have ultimate control over the Melo situation. You do note that all three teams mentioned were (are) bottom feeders? The last think Melo wants is to be forced to go to a non-contending team.
Breaking down cognitive dissonance and group think since gasoline was cheap.
Let us dream.
Remember how happy the board was when teh PA rumor came out?
by Bad News Wolves on Aug 29, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Absolutlely true
when I saw the Denver announcement I started thinking Beasly + Wes+Utah1st round pick for Melo. Now Melo, Love, Rubio is a team I want to watch, especially if we can fill in decent players (strong defenders that you don’t have to hide on offense) at the 2 and 5 (Webster might work, I’m less sure of Darko’s D being that caliber).
assuming he signs an extension beforehand
which is so unlikely, I can’t even begin to fathom. I’d give Wes or Beasley and Jonny. the Syracuse connection is not a selling point at all because he never played with them. why the fock would he care about players that played 6 years after he did? dumb take that I’ve seen from T-Wolves fans. he would much rather play with Rubio than Flynn, as would anyone.
Denver's leverage
…is greater than, say, Cleveland’s was with James. This time, the new CBA comes into play. If Melo turns down a max deal from the Nuggets (or the Wolves or whomever would do an extend-and-trade) he won’t know how much another team can give him—presumably, even less than a team could give him under the current agreement. Also, the Nuggets may be cannier than to meekly accept the TPE as Toronto and Cleveland did.
Obviously, they couldn’t force him to come here. But Carmelo’s list doesn’t mean as much as he’d like to think it does. If Denver is resolute in not wanting what NY or NJ can offer, Kahn could at least get a meeting with him.
My proposal
Beasley,Brewer,Love,Ellington for Melo and J.R.Smith…
Nuggets with this way,could get a very young,talented and attractive assets.
On the other hand,Wolves could maked a very strong starting line and Melo with W.Johnson would matches perfectly in F positions.
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