Wolves Updates 8/3
by SG on Aug 3, 2010 1:38 AM CDT
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Wolfson: Tolliver decision expected in next two days and more
From Darren Wolfson's twitter account:
Free-agent Anthony Tolliver update: his agent spoke w/ Kahn this a.m. Will speak again w/ GS Tues. Decision expected in next 2 days
From Jonah Ballow's twitter account:
RT @WolvesCMO: Tweaked uni announcement set for 8/16. Uniforms w/ some improvements will be unveiled on social media platforms 1st.
From Jonah Ballow/Timberwolves site: Hard-nosed Hayward
In a couple of months, Wolves Nation will see firsthand, Hayward does not shy from contact, "No, you know, it's fun just playing and getting into battles and getting into bodies. Really it's just reading into defenses and you know, picking my spots and today the drives were there."
Hayward made the above statement right after dropping 19 points on Atlanta in Minnesota's Summer League finale. Most players would immediately point out their best offensive output of the week-long games but Hayward started with defense, a similar mindset to his summer league outlook before making the trip to Sin City.
"Win as many games as we can, work very, very, hard be a good teammate you know play some D and go out there and have some fun," Hayward commented.
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I was buzzing through Flynn tweets on twolves.com
Could just be a generation gap, but I don’t get the impression that he thinks about his job much. I wanna read “sorry, no tweets in last week. Breaking down film on my dribble.” even if it’s not true…and it probably won’t be.
by fanslaststand on Aug 3, 2010 4:52 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Gen Y
Being through what jonny has (hip surgery) the best thing in the world to be doing is playing ps3, watching movies etc… realistically he wont be in action for imo 5-6 months so theres no point racking his brain with gameplays/dribbles now… its a long an arduous season best keep him fresh for the season, mentally and physically
I'm not sure
I can see how 30K twitter followers can be a distraction but I can’t see how it makes it easier to do your job. I like him but I see 45 tweets a day as a warning sign. Call me old fashioned.
by fanslaststand on Aug 3, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
new is scary
It is normal to not understand new technology like twitter. It is new and as we get older we get less adaptable to new phenomena. People attack twitter with statements like, “why would i want to know when someone is eating a sandwich.” But the reality is that twitter is only as relevant as you make it. The real reply to those people is why would you purposefully follow stupid people? If that is the sort of tweets that you seek out, then you have some issues. For people that understand twitter, it can be a very useful news feed from a select group of smart, articulate writers. You only follow who you want, so if you choose involved people from areas of your interest, twitter can be the most relevant and useful news source of our day. Especially when most “mainstream” news these days is garbage that just wants to make money off of commercials by inflaming the ignorant public as violently as possible.
Regarding Flynn’s use of twitter, it is indeed that you are old fashioned. Young people today are using twitter to communicate with their groups. Just as you would call upstairs to your mother several times a day when you were young, today’s youth can “call out” to their friends and fans several times a day no matter where they are. It is a new world of connected communication.
That said...
there’s only one person I’ve ever unfollowed on Twitter because they were really boring and fairly inane… and that person is Jonny Flynn.
(though maybe the only reason I haven’t unfollowed Ricky Rubio is that he tweets in Spanish and I don’t speak Spanish…)
I think I get all that
My real point is this, based on reading some flynn tweets over the last few months on twolves.com I’d bet that he doesn’t have the depth of character to truly lead an NBA team. Someone could say that about his talent too, I haven’t seen him play enough in 1 year to discount his talent. KLove sounds like someone who’s ready to seize the mantle of leadership. I’m not seeing any reason to be optimistic about Flynn yet.
by fanslaststand on Aug 3, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
*Shaking head*
My advanced stat could beat up your advanced stat!
by TimAllen on Aug 3, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It might be more that I’m suprised the wolves would post some of these tweets about completely irrelevant topics. Seems like they don’t filter any of it which is nuts. I hope Flynn recovers from the hip problem and has a great year but I don’t need to know he’s shopping for jeans when I look for the latest wolves news on the website.
by fanslaststand on Aug 3, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
TA
speakin’ the truth.
"Styx might be the mullet of bands."
by biggity2bit on Aug 3, 2010 10:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, but he is a kid, give him time.
I played video games with my daughter when I was 50. Look at my
picture. It never affected me ;-)
Get ready to watch his twitter following flame out
with his career.
You need to be special to play serious minutes in the NBA at his height and contribute. He’s not.
by bleedpurplecryblue on Aug 3, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I missed it somewhere.
Can somebody tell me exactly which 2nd round pick we gave up in the Sessions trade? I have kept an eye out for it but haven’t seen anything.
It was a 2013 2nd round pick from memory.
I think this is the first time in history one man managed to destroy an entire city by himself. Even the Enola Gay had a flight crew.
I think we had a hint of the uni change
in the draft party promo featuring a number 4 in a very different font than used on the jersey.
I cannot find it anywhere on the intiwebz, but it was a considerable improvement.
I think this is the first time in history one man managed to destroy an entire city by himself. Even the Enola Gay had a flight crew.
New Uni's
Thank G. Does anybody have any insider info for the what the changes/improvements are? Possibly just a new font? That would definitely help. Has anyone also heard about a possible alternate? A while back I heard possibly bringing back the black alt.
Is the neck ruff of trees leaving?
Some corner of my mind thinks that’s one of the changes due…. Feels like something I read someone else hoping, though.
There are times when that thing stands up and looks like a sort of sweater collar:
Please not just a change in the number/location of pine trees
Why don’t they try putting " ‘Sota" on the front of the jersey? KG and other players seem to refer to the team and the fans that way and it would be something a little different and more hip than simply changing a font. Taking it a few steps further, I’d like to see all of the MN teams engage more with some of our local creative talent to design more creative and hip gear. The Vikings are by far the worst with the “tv friendly” purple they changed to in the 90s and the rest of their garish 1980s Zubaz-esque gear.
by OkieWolf on Aug 3, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's a really great idea
The design community here is stellar, pretty much across the board (graphic, web, advertising, architecture, fashion). They’d totally spit out some great ideas, although my guess is that their uni’s are designed by some big sponsor, like Reebok or Nike or Adidas, and that they are the ones who design them.
"Styx might be the mullet of bands."
Good point about Nike, etc..
In this case they’re like Microsoft is to computers…serviceable and generally providing good quality in a bland sort of way, but in the end they operate largely as a stifler of creativity.
I’m familiar with some local artists who do screen printing for musicians (show posters, etc) and lots of what they do is super, super cool. One of them has dabbled in some Twins gear but I would love seeing them creating some stuff that hipsters with ironic mustaches would be proud to wear around Uptown and such.
The Uniforms are Adidas across the league, aren't they?
A poster on another board, “Brew,” has been in advertising for ages (and has been a Wolves fan since the Strib board’s heyday, when I would have used his full name). His basic take has always been that the Wolves are incredibly cheap, and that agencies take their work to be visible but think of them as a pain-in-the-butt client.
(That said, Brew is something of a crank, and has been bitter since the first time someone at Target Center failed to shine KG’s shoes on the way out after an afternoon practice.)
And Favre retires...
…I’m not sure I believe it. But if he actually does retire this time, that’s probably good news for the Wolves.
My advanced stat could beat up your advanced stat!
I'm not sure the wolves are ready for attention
Maybe we could suggest he could wait another year. Does anyone have his contact info?
by midlife crisis on Aug 3, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Who says the that the "good news for the Wolves" is more attention?
The Vikings imploding this year would probably garner an even greater share of local and national media. The Wolves could just exist.
by Krotz the Wall on Aug 3, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Delonte West
Still nothing new on his contract?
Two
More days till we find out if he can be included in another deal.
by NorthernLights666 on Aug 3, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow, Shaq to the Celtics
Who saw that one coming? Not me.
My advanced stat could beat up your advanced stat!
Never gets any less strange
When you see that statue, in the middle of little old Blue Earth, from the interstate.
He wants to play for a contender and get minutes
I don’t think he would have like the idea of following James to Miami or playing with Kobe again. He wouldn’t get much playing time in Orlando (or LA for that matter). So Boston makes sense to me – where was it reported?
by Breaking Ankles on Aug 3, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
How old do the Celtics want to become?
Jermaine O’Neal and Shaq are their big additions this offseason.
25 years old, too. He's a veritable spring chicken for them.
Is Rondo going to somehow catch progeria from this roster?
Anthony Tolliver
I am baffled by the TWolves interest in Tolliver. Why do they want to sign him? He has had a very mediocre college and pro career. Unless I am missing something, I don’t see much to suggest there is any chance of snagging a possible quality rotation player in Tolliver.
Interest in Tolliver
Wolves Brass go after guys they have extensively scouted, right? Rambis saw firsthand Tolliver put up 34 points and grab 8 boards on 14-22 shooting against the Pups on April 7. Consider him signed!
by Taylor_Footman on Aug 3, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
The McHale comparison is scary in that way, I agree.
Kevin Mac had that unnerving tendency to do things like overspend in every way on Marko Jaric based on a hot quarter off the Clips’ bench against us.
In this case, though, I really think the outlines of Kahn’s thinking (and faults) are all here. He thinks of Tolliver as a shoots-from-range complementary big type – our version of a bargain “stretch” four and spot five. He does seem to ‘get’ the roles he wants people to play. His judgment about their relative talents, and about whether they really fit his vision of what they can do, well…. That’s another set of questions.
I was ready to start chanting MVP if he hit 40 in that game. But then, he and the entire Warriors team forgot there was a 4th quarter and the Wolves almost managed to close the huge gap. Sigh, I really wanted an Anthony Tolliver “MVP” chant…
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
I think the logic is
that signing Tolliver means they view Beasley as a starting SF in their offense, and so need a backup PF.
The depth chart would probably go:
C – Darko, Pek
PF – Love, Tolliver
SF – Beasley, Webster
SG – Wes, Webster
"Styx might be the mullet of bands."
by biggity2bit on Aug 3, 2010 10:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd flip wes and webster at SG (at least to start the season)
I would drive 10 miles to hear fucktwats sing.
Um, who cares?
Until the terms of the contract are known, why should this matter? From a distance, it seems like he is being brought in as an emergency guy who could play in case of injury. He’s not a good player, but based on who they’ve already brought in, he’s not being asked to contribute heavily. The team still needs to fill out the roster.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Aug 3, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Just a warm body to keep a chair on the ground
Seems that we already have a player (Koufos) who is big and not good under contract for one year at 1.3m and the next year is a team option. May as well just keep him if we just need someone to show up for games and not play since the price is right.
I am sure Tolliver is looking for something longer and more expensive than that and it would be a shame to waste money on him.
It's all speculation until we see some numbers
As for his motives, let’s not kid ourselves that this guy’s market is hot. He played because the Warriors literally had to play every healthy body they had on some nights and had 52 career points before joining the Warriors.
Also, if they want someone who can step in when injuries hit, that’s different than just needing a warm body at the end of the bench. The former needs to be ready to play without expecting to play. Koufos had the chance to step in for the Jazz and was beaten out by Kyrylo Fesenko.
by pagingstanleyroberts on Aug 3, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Reminder about the Warriors' injury problems.
Late one game, Nellie had nobody to hold the chairs down:
Was this the game...
Where he kept a guy with 6 fouls in and just took the T’s because they didn’t have any healthy bodies left?
by pagingstanleyroberts on Aug 4, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I seem to remember reading
That Tolliver would be thrilled with a 2 year deal. Seemed like he was worried he’d be forced to take a single season contract.
It's too quiet on the Wolves' Front
are they done making moves? I check in every day, and “nothing” for over a
week. Tell me this is because they are in secret negotiations with New
Orleans to bring us CP3.
rrrrrrring!! – - – - – - -oh, time to wake up.
They're done...
…except for the relatively minor moves of waiving/trading Koufos and signing one more post player (Tolliver or somebody else) for depth.
They have their nine-man rotation:
Milicic
Pekovic
Love
Beasley
Webster
Johnson
Brewer
Ridnour
Telfair, then Flynn
Reserves:
Tolliver
Hayward
Ellington
I like it. Let’s roll with these guys and see how it all plays out.
The Lakers always try to get 5 bigs, 5 guards, and 2 forwards.
I wonder if Rambis brought that idea from LA and is making a push for that kind of framework.
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
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