Wolves Updates 8/31
by SG on Aug 31, 2010 8:51 PM CDT
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PrintFlynn has "great" pool workout today, Ronzone praises Love's defensive ability, fans launch "Bring Back Brian Cardinal" site and more
From Jerry Zgoda/Star Tribune:
Six weeks after surgery to repair his hip, Jonny Flynn reported today on his Twitter account that he's off crutches and back walking for the first time in pool physical-therapy workouts.
From Jonny Flynn's twitter account:
Finally get to get off these crutches for a while. I get start walking on my own in my pool workout today. I'm hype! Its been 6weeks!
From Dave Campbell/Associated Press: Vikings put Rice on reserve for at least 6 games
Rice, meanwhile, said on his Twitter account Tuesday that he had a "great pool workout" with fellow hip-surgery patient Jonny Flynn, the point guard for the Minnesota Timberwolves. Flynn had his procedure done six weeks ago and is expected to need another two or three months to recover.
From Jonah Ballow/Timberwolves site: Love Developing as USA Chases Gold
Jonah Ballow: How have you seen him grow? He will be entering his third season in the league and we all know about the rebounding, that is his calling card and it's been talked about a lot. What have you seen out of his full game that has grown that maybe we are not seeing in the games but you get a chance to see in the practice facility?
Tony Ronzone: We'll first of all, his defensive ability. He has really made an emphasis on playing defense and he is doing a great job of putting pressure on the ball and he is the only guy taking charges on our team. We got to do some more dirty work for our team to get to that gold medal game. Kevin has done that. He didn't take a charge last game but every game up to last night, he has taken a charge for us. His defense and he is aware of it and that is expanding his game, that's something I know Kurt Rambis and our coaching staff wanted him to do and he is really adapted to making that change. That is going to make him a better all-around player. We know he can rebound, we know he can score, and he has actually come out and made a couple of threes for us, which is nice as a trail four. This has been great for him to learn a different style of game, being around top players in our NBA, so this is huge for us and huge for him most importantly.
From Shaun Powell/NBA.com: Rising stars to watch in the 2010-11 season
Kevin Love, Timberwolves: He operates in an unconventional world. Love is a walking contradiction. For two years he averaged only 26 minutes a night for a losing team, and yet is one of the Wolves' better players. He's a solid rebounder who lacks low-post moves, and a deft passer who plays a rugged position. Maybe this is the year the Wolves figure out how to best use Love and keep him on the floor. He's always around the ball and tends to make something happen. And he wasn't chosen to Team USA this summer by accident. With no Al Jefferson around, Love finally has his chance to become the low-post presence for a team that doesn't have many. You think the Wolves will finally, you know, put him in the starting lineup?
From Game On: Ricky Rubio continues to amaze with his sleight of hand (VIDEO)
From Jerry Zgoda's twitter account:
#Timberwolves' summer makeover is missing one monumental crowning touch. Check out this groundswell fan effort: www.bringbackcardinal.com
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wow
flynns condition must be a lot worse than mine, i was only on crutches for 2 weeks until i could walk (with a limp). But good to see they arn’t rushing him back, whaat are the chances that two of my fav players have the exact same surgery months apart????
Love the contrast..
between Zgoda’s reporting of Flynn’s tweet and the tweet itself. Got a chuckle out of me.
I can't believe that the
“Bring Back Cardinal” site has managed to find 78 signatures. While it is comical, I have absolutely no desire to ever have to suffer through watching him play again.
by Peanut Butter Wolf on Aug 31, 2010 10:33 PM CDT reply actions
Um, 79 actually......
I think this is the first time in history one man managed to destroy an entire city by himself. Even the Enola Gay had a flight crew.
Perhaps a sense of humor is involved.
I’d “sign” it, too, if Facebook’s eagerness to “Allow X application to access my data any time for any reason” wasn’t giving me the crawls.
They really ought to have mentioned the “Church League” or “The Janitor” nicknames. Then I’d have made the effort.
"As long as a man stands in his own way, everything seems to be in his way." RWE
Just wondering...
Why do we want Cardinal back??
I notice not even the website can tell us why. It says bring him back without any reason and just calls him the ‘difference maker’. I remember the difference he made last year, and without being an a$$hole I say let him stay where he is.
by newfrickinshow on Sep 1, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Why?
Cardinal? Really? Why???? Waste of a roster spot.
by bringthesun on Sep 1, 2010 7:24 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Last year - good salary dump
this year? i would hope they could find a more capable veteran big man to help out with leadership, if needed. But with the coaching staff that they have in place I don’t think big man leadership is an issue. I think they saw that need at point and filled it.
by Breaking Ankles on Sep 1, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
If cardinal comes back
it will be as a coach, not a player.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Sep 1, 2010 7:48 AM CDT reply actions
This
I hope is true. Sounds like most people here are pretty down an Cardinal, but what I saw out of him was a smart and tenacious player who was at a physical and athletic disadvantage every time he stepped out onto the court. He shot well for a big, and it always seemed like the team played better/more cohesive when he was on the court. Is this my argument for him coming back as a player? No. Do I think he has the right kind of stuff to be an effective coach? Yes yes yes. He knows the game, he knows players, and he’s got a great attitude and perspective. I don’t know who’s in charge of player development right now, but they should add Cardinal to that mix.
"Styx might be the mullet of bands."
Agreed
Why waste the roster spot? Hire him as a “coach” for the vet’s minimum (as if he were a player) and you’d get the same. He can play in practice and teach that way just as if he were a player, and it never mattered much if he was in uniform or suit at the end of the bench.
Basically, all the good things about having him as a player, and a guarantee that he’d never step on the court.
by Cedarpenguin on Sep 1, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I would love to bring him on
as an assitant coach who helps players workout and practice on certain parts of their game. Kind of that call the guy and say you want to work out and he meets you at the gym guy.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Sep 1, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Darrick Martin redux, in other words, and it's not a horrible idea.
He and Love are friends.
"As long as a man stands in his own way, everything seems to be in his way." RWE
I think it is important
that he is around, but not necessarily on the roster. There is enough talent at each position that if one player isn’t playing up to snuff, you can bench them and put in someone else already. We are better off calling up some guy from the D league to take a look at with that spot so long as we can hire Cardinal to be a “coach” and help shape the culture and lockerroom atmosphere.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Sep 1, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Cardinal may be a good locker-room guy, but the 12th man on a team isn’t the guy shaping the character of the locker room. The tone is always set by the best players on the team. I
And, if you hire him as a coach, he’s not one of the guys anymore. He would have to demonstrate his influence in different ways, which he may or may not be able to do.
I don't understand the (small amount) of backlash.
Waste of a roster spot? What qualities are you looking for in your 12th man beyond an insanely hard practice-worker, fundamentally sound player, and great locker-room/bench guy?
I don’t see keeping SOME continuity from last year’s roster, especially when it’s a roster spot that won’t ever see the court anyway, and especially when he’s the guy who most seems to have Love’s ear. I’d like to see him back.
Maybe a little harsh
Point taken,lack of sleep made me negative this morning. BC did play some decent def,and yes for a 12th man i guess it wouldn’t be bad.I like the coaching idea also. I thouht the 12th roster spot was for our “fans, try out for the wolves” promotion this year? :)
by bringthesun on Sep 1, 2010 9:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey
isn’t that Lazar Hayward?
Thank you, thank you. I’ll be here all season.
(FWIW I actually like Hayward a lot, but I couldn’t resist the joke).
"Styx might be the mullet of bands."
And if Cardinal does see the floor ...
he will not embarass the team. Cardinal is a good +/- guy. Unless the team has a project player with considerable upside, I would favor his return although I feel it is unlikely to happen.
I figured that every great team has a human victory cigar
The Lakers had Adam Morrison last year, DJ Mbenga the year before that and Mark Madsen in the Shaq/Kobe years.
The Celtics had Brian Scalabrine when they won it.
The Spurs had Matt Bonner.
Etc. etc.
Ergo, if you want to become a great team, you get a human victory cigar, like Brian Cardinal.
Caveat
You can’t have a box of human victory cigars, or you get the 2009-2010 Wolves.
by Madison Dan on Sep 1, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And their performance team,
the Humidors.
"As long as a man stands in his own way, everything seems to be in his way." RWE
Anyone watching USA vs Iran on ESPN?
Love just score 8points back to back buckets.
Just came here to comment on that.
Holy crap was that a good stretch. Love scored on four straight possessions, and I thought it was 9 points (unless his foot was on the line on that last three). Also two rebounds in those four possessions for good measure.
Love should see lots of playing time today,
if USA lead by a lot. 15 min today? Maybe.
Wow rebounding numbers are down today....
by Bad News Wolves on Sep 1, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Only because he's hitting every shot
one of Love’s trademarks is offensive boards and US shot 58% from the floor today, hard to get many OR when you’re team’s hitting that many of its shots.
Still, he managed to lead the team in points, second in rebounds, and added an assist and a steal while playing fewer minutes than anybody else on the team. Not too bad
by newfrickinshow on Sep 1, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Haddadi is a problematic defensive center.
When Memphis sent Thabeet to North Dakota for PT, I happened to compare his Grizzlies numbers to the guy they’d promoted past him, Haddadi. Hasheem’s rate of fouling was high – he’s one of those young players who go to 10 fouls in summer league if they’re allowed, and per-36 or whatever he was above 6 fouls. Ouch, right? Only Haddadi commits even more fouls for the time he’s in.
Then I started to notice Haddadi being blown apart on youtube all over the place. He’s not a help defender, and with guys like Rudy Gay outside, it gets ugly at times.
"As long as a man stands in his own way, everything seems to be in his way." RWE
Haddadi defense
Nick Young with loads of time for Haddadi to see it coming.
"As long as a man stands in his own way, everything seems to be in his way." RWE
Here's to hoping that the Team USA basketball tournament in Aug/Sept
is not the highlight of the 2010-2011 Minnesota Timberwolves season…
You think the Wolves will finally, you know, put him in the starting lineup?
Got a laugh outta that one. At least the fans aren’t the only ones who think Rambis is crazy not to start Love.
Actually today's game
Is a perfect example of how effective he is off the bench. He was flying all over the court, hustling his butt off, and playing great. Not sure he’d keep that up for 30+ minutes.
But, I too agree he should start… this year.
I will be so happy and relieved
When there are actual games to discuss. I can only get excited re-chewing the same lineup issues so many times over the summer.
And being that it is the Wolves, there are always lots of unsolvable issues. Like having your best two players both play PF. Three years in a row. When neither can play D.
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
Me too
While I enjoyed watching the game and Love looking great… I did get bummed out looking at Derek Rose and Durant…. Those guys are so unbelievable (are they secretly conspiring to play together is 5 years?!). We need some luck to get find our superstar.
I haven't been as excited about a Wolves roster since 95-98...
KG, Marbury, Googs, Rider (til he was wisely delt).
If you include Ricky, then Wes, Beasley, Love, Pek, Darko, Webster…
There have never been as many interesting subplots on the Wolves.
And our best player might be Jim “Cap Room” Jones. That guy can fill it.
by fanslaststand on Sep 1, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Everybody is worried about winning NBA titles...
I just want to be able to justify to my gal why she can’t watch Top Chef until after the ballgame is over. Hard to do when we’re down 28 in the 3rd. Wolves, just get me from Monday morning to Friday afternoon in the winter w/ a couple of close games and I’ll take care of the rest.
by fanslaststand on Sep 1, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Today I have to admit that KLove was playing some good ball.
Today he actually deserves the press he has been getting up until now
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