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2009 -2010 Minnesota vs. New Jersey: Small Forwards

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The two worst teams in the league last season - Minnesota and New Jersey - had many things in common. Lots of losing. A young and skilled big man (Love/Lopez). A building without many people in it. Another area that we had in common was the small forward position, where both teams received abysmal production. So who was worse? And just how bad was it?

The numbers are below the fold:

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Production by Position

Below, I've included the stats for Team Production and Opponent Production for Minnesota, New Jersey - and just to compare to a team with a star small forward - Cleveland.

Team Production

POS FGA eFG% FTA iFG Reb Ast T/O Blk PF Pts PER*
MN
13.6   .468   3.2   21%  7.0   3.4   2.3   0.5   4.0   15.1   11.5
NJ 
14.5   .469   3.3   32%  6.5   2.8   2.1   0.4   3.6   16.2   11.9
CLE 19.6   .538   8.5   32%  8.4   7.8   3.2   1.1   2.4   27.6   26.3  

 

Opponent Production

Position FGA eFG% FTA iFG Reb Ast T/O Blk PF Pts PER*
MN 17.8   .514   5.0   28%  7.3   4.1   2.2   0.7   3.5   22.5   17.9
NJ 
16.1   .515   5.2   35%  8.3   4.2   2.5   0.6   3.1   20.7   18.3
CLE 16.1   .504   4.1   28%  6.7   2.9   2.0   0.6   3.7   19.4   15.2

 

Net Production

Position FGA eFG% FTA iFG Reb Ast T/O Blk PF Pts PER*
MIN -4.2   -.046   -1.9   -7%  -0.2   -0.7   -0.0   -0.3   -0.6   -7.4   -6.4
NJ -1.5   -.046   -1.9   -3%  -1.8   -1.3   0.4   -0.2   -0.5   -4.5   -6.4
CLE 3.5   +.034   4.4   4%  1.7   4.9   -1.2   0.5   1.3   8.2   +11.2 

 

At the small forward position, the Wolves averaged only 15.1 points on 13.6 attempts per game. Only 21% of those attempts were from inside or close to the hoop. Compare this to our best position on the team last season - power forward - where we averaged 22.7 points on 5.6 attempts per game with 40% of those shots being from inside/close to the hoop.

Conversely, on defense, we were not any better. We gave up 22.5 points per game - again,  our worst position on the team. This makes our net production from the small forward position -7.4. Our center position was even and our point guards actually had a positive net production amount of 0.5.

Compare this to New Jersey, the team with the worst record in the league. New Jersey's small forwards averaged 16.2 points per game (a full point higher than the Wolves) with 32% of their shots being from inside/close to the hoop. They only gave up 20.7 points per game for a net loss of 4.5 points.

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Players on Offense

Here are the offensive per-48 minute stats for players who logged more than 1% of the team's minutes at SF for the 2009-2010 season.

Minnesota

Name FGA eFG% FTA iFG Reb Ast T/O Blk PF Pts PER*
Wilkins 11.3   .464   4.1   29%  7.6   4.1   2.2   .7   4.3   13.8   13.3 
Gomes 14.3   .497   2.3   13%  6.7   2.8   1.9   .2   2.7   16.1   12.2 
Brewer   15.9    .438    7.4    35%   6.9   3.4   2.9   .7   6.3   18.8   11.9  
Pavlovic 15.5   .439   1.6   15%  6.7   3.2   2.9   .3   4.8   14.2   6.5

 

For all the Corey Brewer fans out there, it's a little disheartening to know that he performed worse than Damien Wilkins last season and did not significantly outplay Ryan Gomes - at least when he was at the 3 spot. It's also jarring to see how epically bad Sasha Pavlovic's season was at the small forward spot.

New Jersey

Name FGA eFG% FTA iFG Reb Ast T/O Blk PF Pts PER*
T-Will   18.2   .434   4.1   37%  10.0   5.5   3.0   .4   3.6   18.8   14.5  
CLee 
17.5   .500   7.5   32%  6.8   1.4   .7   .7   3.6   23.5   21.3
Sims 
13.4   .484   5.2   16%  7.8   .9   3.9   .0   4.7   17.2   9.2  
CDR  
 15.1   .477   4.2   44%  5.3   2.7   2.4   .5   3.0   18.0   13.6  
Hayes 14.4   .508   1.0   9%  4.9   2.0   1.4   .3   4.0   15.4   10.4 
Hassell 9.4   .429   2.6   35%  6.1   2.0   1.6   .4   3.8   10.1   7.6 

 

Only Courtney Lee could be described as having a very good season at small forward for the Nets. If you ranked the players of both teams by PER - which is not definitive but is interesting to review - the Nets have the top 3 small forward performers (Lee, Williams and Douglas-Roberts) with Sasha Pavlovic coming in as the worst small forward on the worst two NBA teams from last season.

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Players on Defense

Here are the defensive per-48 minute stats for players who logged more than 1% of the team's minutes at SF for the 2009-2010 season.

Minnesota

Name FGA eFG% FTA iFG Reb Ast T/O Blk PF Pts PER*
Wilkins 17.8   .519   5.3   27%  7.5   4.0   2.5   .6   3.6   23.0   18.7
Gomes 17.3   .533   4.4   29%  6.8   4.3   1.9   .6   3.3   22.1   17.8 
Brewer  18.4   .559   6.0   34%  8.5   4.3   1.6   .7   4.5   26.2   22.9  
Pavlovic 18.1   .448   5.3   26%  6.9   3.6   2.7   1.1   3.0   20.4   13.8  

 

New Jersey

Name FGA eFG% FTA iFG Reb Ast T/O Blk PF Pts PER*
T-Will  17.9   .465   5.2   36%  9.3   3.7   1.9   .6   3.2   20.8   17.6
 CLee  15.7   .352   7.1   43%  9.6   2.5   3.2   .7   3.6   17.5   14.5
Sims 
 17.2   .413   6.9   15%  6.5   2.6   3.4   .4   5.2   19.0   8.1
  CDR   14.3    .508    5.6    40%  8.3   4.1   2.3   .8   3.3   19.0   17.5  
Hayes  17.1   .571   4.0   35%  7.0   4.8   2.2   .4   2.1   22.6   20.5 
Hassell 15.5   .555   5.4   32%  8.6   4.4   3.0   .8   3.3   21.5   18.0  

 

Brewer as a defensive stalwart? Not at the small forward position. He gave up the most points and the most rebounds of anyone at the 3 spot on a per-48 minute basis. Meanwhile, the worst player at the 3 on offense - Pavlovic - appears to have been our top defender from that same position for the Wolves. For the Nets, Jarvis Hayes allowed opponents an eFG% of over 57% and may have been the worst defender at the 3 for New Jersey.

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Beasley and Webster

Obviously, Wesley Johnson and Lazar Hayward have to be omitted from this post, but here is how Michael Beasley and Martell Webster performed at the 3 spot last season:

Offense:

Name FGA eFG% FTA iFG Reb Ast T/O Blk PF Pts PER*
B Easy
21.5   .403   6.1   25%  10.0   2.8   2.7   .7   3.7   22.2   14.9 
MWebs 15.1   .505   3.6   24%  6.3   1.5   1.5   .8   3.6   18.2   14.0  

 

Defense:

Name FGA eFG% FTA iFG Reb Ast T/O Blk PF Pts PER*
B Easy
17.9   .504   7.0   21%  7.6   2.2   1.8   .7   4.5   23.9   18.8
MWebs 16.1   .533   3.9   30%  6.3   2.5   2.2   .7   3.2   20.0   16.2

 

Again, using PER as a measurement, Beasley and Webster would have been the best and second best small forwards on the Wolves from an offensive standpoint.. Courtney Lee and Terrence Williams scored better on New Jersey, however.

On the other side of the ball, players were less productive against Gomes, Wilkins and Pavlovic than they were against Beasley. Webster was a better defender at the 3 than all but Pavlovic on the Wolves side, but Courtney Lee and Bobby Simmons also held opponents to worse numbers than Martell.

Based upon last year's numbers, it does not seem as though the team is making a substantial improvement at the 3 position. If the players improve, however, and Wes Johnson (and/or Lazar Hayward) proves to be productive as a rookie, we could see our worst position suddenly bolstered.

 

 










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