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More Coaching Analysis from Hickory-High: Adelman Looks Great

A few weeks ago Stop-n-Pop linked to a piece I wrote for Hickory-High, trying to find some statistical measures to evaluate coaches. That first piece looked at the correlation between the effectiveness of each five-man unit and how many minutes they were allotted by their coach. In that analysis Adelman came out looking great, Rambis not so much.

In the comments here at CanisHoopus, there were some concerns about the volatility of the the statistic season to season, and also how well it accounted for injuries and roster changes. There were also some questions about how much information was really offerred about the abilities of coaches like Doc Rivers and Phil Jackson. They have the best players, so of course it's much easier for them to make roster decisions seemed to be part of the sentiment.

To try and answer some of those concerns I put together another simple technique for looking at how coaches distribute minutes. Here's the link to the entire piece.

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For each team, I looked at all the five-man units that played at least five minutes together and calculated what percentage of those units finished the season with a positive Net Rating. I then calculated what percentage of total minutes were played by those positive units. If a coach distributed minutes completely evenly, with no regard for a lineup’s effectiveness, those two percentages would be equal. Unsurprisingly, that was not the case in any of the seasons I looked at. So to restate, we’re comparing the percentage of lineups which outscored the opposition, with the percentage of time those lineups were on the floor. For our purposes here, we’ll consider the difference between those two percentages, positive or negative, as a representation of a coach’s ability to manipulate their roster.

Since we are just looking at total percentages in the positive range, I believe this minimizes the influence of injuries and roster changes in the stat. If Kevin Love goes down with an injury it would be Rambis' job to replace those Love units with other positive units. Since the units aren't being compared to each other in effectiveness, the statistical output is only affected by a coach's ability to find some other positive replacement. The comparison here is between the amount of positive units available and the amount of minutes those positive units played. Injuries could still affect these numbers, but I think in a much smaller way.

Don't worry there are plenty of other limitations. Here are a few that I identified, feel free to point out others.

Now this method is not perfect. I think it covers some of the holes in my first analysis, while creating plenty of its own. Obviously, a coach has more responsibility for a unit’s success or failure than just deciding what players make up that unit. Not all positive lineups are created equal, and neither are all negative lineups. Also a coach’s ability to create effective lineups can always be limited by injuries and roster changes. Despite the flaws, I think there is valuable information to be gleaned.

The volatility issue hasn't been resolved, and is likely a combination of injury issues and some natural fluctuations in a coach's ability to manipulate his talent each season. Rick Adelman's Houston seasons in 2008, 2009, and 2011 all ranked in the top 23. His 2010 season was the second worst. As you would expect, Rambis' numbers are a disaster.

Again, here's the link for the entire piece.

If anyone has them, I'd love to hear thoughts on this work, and if it seems any more valid than the first piece I wrote.

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by littleboxes on Oct 14, 2011 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

This is the bomb!

Now if you will excuse me, I need to finish reading the piece!

by Dr. Wolfenstein on Oct 14, 2011 10:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Quick question

Let me know if I’m understanding this correctly: in essence, the analysis is simply lumping all positive units together and seeing how often did they play? Or phrased differently, the analysis isn’t looking at the degree to which one unit is more positive than another, but rather attempting to give a measure of how successful a given coach is at recognizing five man units that are net positive versus a net negative, and subsequently giving them more playing time (e.g. if Love goes down, can the coach adjust with another unit that is still a net positive, even though it won’t be as positive as if Love where in there).

If so, I kind of like this measure as standalone context factor for understanding coaching. I know that there are a lot more questions that get opened up, but it strikes me as being one of those things that should have a high correlational value. Sorting your linked list by the percentage of time a given coach plays a positive unit, the Wolves’ coaches occupy 3 of the bottom 8 positions! Adelman is also in there (5th worst) for his 2010 Houston team that went 42-40. Kinda weird – maybe it took them awhile to figure out how to best incorporate Kevin Martin and compensate for losing Landry to a midseason trade? At any rate, the top coaches are a veritable who’s who of successful basketball coaches. Just kind of glancing at it .590 and above seems to be the general cutoff line for playoff caliber basketball (that is, a coach of a playoff caliber team plays a positive unit almost 60% of the time).

Of course the big question is – Is it because that coach has talented players, or is it because the coach is good at playing the right guys at the right time. My guess is that it’s probably a synergy of both – a bad coach can keep a good team down to some extent, and a good coach can be limited to certain extent by a bad team. What this means for the Wolves specifically is that we probably are better than 17 wins (clearly), but whether or not we are playoff bound in a few years depends more on the development of our young players into stars than it does on Adelman per se.

by Dr. Wolfenstein on Oct 14, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting stuff about Jeff Green and Serge Ibaka.

Green’s one of my favorite examples of an overrated player, so I won’t harp on it, but…. Yeah.

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by feral on Oct 14, 2011 6:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Can you give us the thumbnail version of what you think is happening with Adelman over time, and in 2010 particularly?

We probably know what we think about that rating, but I’d love to hear it from you without any priming from us first.

"People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."

by feral on Oct 14, 2011 7:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Wolfenstein – Your first paragraph is perfect explanation of the technique I used. I think your analysis is right on. Clearly having good players makes those lineup decisions easier, but it certainly doesn’t make them automatic. You can start your best players but they can’t all play 48 minutes. A coach has to find ways to cobble together effective lineups when different guys are resting at different times.

Feral – I think Adelman’s 2010 season is one that get’s really skewed by the roster changes they made. The trade for Kevin Martin really changed their team and what was available in terms of players. A lot of the positive units which played a small number of minutes only become available after the February trade. This skews the percentage of units with positive ratings upward, but he didn’t have many of those positive units available February, meaning he didn’t the option of playing them as many minutes as possible. The other big factor was his loyalty to Aaron Brooks. In 2010 he was coming off that huge playoff performance against the Lakers. Adelman gave him nearly twice as many minutes as Kyle Lowry, but the Rockets were way way better with Lowry in the game then Brooks. I think those two things were responsible for a lot of the huge drop in Adelman’s number that season.

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by Ian Levy on Oct 15, 2011 9:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Adelman's attempt to develop Aaron Brooks, and whatever went on in the Rockets FO over that choice, would be interesting

for Wolves fans to look at.

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by feral on Oct 15, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

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