Open NBA Rumor Thread
by TimAllen on Nov 30, 2011 10:09 AM CST
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Starting today, NBA teams have been allowed to contact player agents. Given that the season is supposed to start in less than a month, there's going to be a lot of chatter going on. While deals cannot be made "official" until December 9th (assuming all goes according to plan), I figured it would be nice to have a spot to discuss all of the potential deals that are or could be made in the next week or so.
Like Chris Paul, who according to Chris Broussard, has said he would not sign an extension with the Boston Celtics if he were traded there; or the New Jersey Nets, who are rumored to have offered Brook Lopez and 1st round picks for Dwight Howard; or David Kahn, who offered the mid-level exception to Jason Collins.
I only made one of those up.
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I forgot the basis of my 'rumor'
We already have two ucla grads, why not a third? Kahn seems to like collecting different schools players. And the orange collection did not work out so well.
So you're saying we should bring back Ryan Hollins?
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by TimAllen on Nov 30, 2011 10:28 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Another basis of your rumor might be that Afflalo makes a great, great fit here.
I’d be pretty happy if they simply added him to the existing roster as a straight FA.
"Opinion ...a confession."
A Rubio/Afflalo backcourt would be absolutely anemic. And I don’t think their defense would outweigh their offense.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Nov 30, 2011 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
You guys need somebody like K-Mart or Thornton with Rubio IMO.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Nov 30, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
Somehow
Kidd and DeShawn Stevenson made it work.
by Rascal Flatts on Nov 30, 2011 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
And who of the Wolves
is Dirk and Chandler in this analogy?
If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.
C'mon.
I’m just getting excited about the settling of the lockout, and you have to remind me of that.
On another note, I hope you appreciate that as Rubio leaves Spain to join the Wolves in the NBA, another player forgoes the NBA so that he can stay in Spain.
If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.
I'm surprised he didn't apply for a 5th year of eligibility
It’s a big scary world outside of Cameron Indoor…especially for guys in the Wojeschowski/Paulus bloodline. (That dude has future Dook assistant written all over him.)
Original content coming soon?
I love everyones fan posts and all but have been looking to a CH season preview for quite awhile now. ETA?
You mean when most of us had abandoned any hope for a season and didn't care?
I think it should be re-posted to the top of the front page.
by Rascal Flatts on Nov 30, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
I'm working on another one
As well as a post about the need for this team to do absolutely nothing in the shortened offseason/preseason. Unfortunately, Skyrim came out and my post kids-going-to-bed writing time has been killed by a lizard creature named Glen. Glen resides in the House of Danzig and he likes pick-pocketing and killing random strangers.
by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 30, 2011 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Looking forward to it
Kahn doing “absolutely nothing….” Mmmmm. Methinks this is against his nature, but perhaps Taylor will put the cuffs on him.
by Rascal Flatts on Nov 30, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
I think the pecking order
on personnel moves goes like this:
1. Adelman
2. Glen
3. Kahn
And for that I am thankful.
If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.
by PoorDick on Nov 30, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Good to know.
In hindsight, Kahn’s lack of knowledge, experience, and success with the Wolves is a blessing, since he has absolutely no leverage if he disagrees with Adelman. Hopefully Kahn’s smart enough to “Yes, Sir!” to everything Adelman wants to do and is endorsed by Taylor.
If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.
Thought experiment
I’m going to give you a high 6-figure salary to sit at a desk and make phone calls to no one in particular. People who know what they are doing will run the actual operation. If things go well, you get to take the credit. If they don’t…well, nobody is going to think any differently of you. Are you game?
(You even get to talk to Bill Simmons on his podcast every now and then.)
I didn't know George W Bush
was ever on Bill Simmons’ podcast.
If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.
by PoorDick on Nov 30, 2011 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
You're just trying
to get me to bait the CH conservatives again, aren’t you?
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Nov 30, 2011 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
Hey!
Bush got paid better than that to trade Sammy Sosa right before he hit about 300 homers in 6 years.
Apparently he was too principled to be complicit in the Age of Steroids?
(But no, we know that can’t be true.)
"Opinion ...a confession."
This has always perplexed me...
How exactly does a rumor differ from a RUMINT?
When you stay at the Rumor Mill Inn
they leave a RUMINT on your pillow.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Nov 30, 2011 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
S-n-P We are in dire need of MORE RUMINT
Can you spill or hint at anything? Are they looking to make moves to match Adelman’s system & tastes? Another year down the tubes for ‘roster analysis’? Love close to signing an extension?
Throw us a bone here :)
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Nov 30, 2011 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
Nothing other than hearing from a few people...
….that everybody is kind of happy with the new arrangement and nobody is really going to get in the way of Adelman, except Glen’s checkbook…which has always been the case at the cliched end of the day. That’s pretty much it. My best guess is that they are going to sit tight, see what they have with the core of Love, Rubio, Williams and maybe Beasley and that’s about it. Most people have been on radio silence for a long, long time. It’s been kind of nice.
And by "new arrangement"
You mean Adelman Sr. as the “defacto” GM, son installed as part of the front office, and Kahn marginalized to a role of “public face of the front office” and “manager of contracts and the dark legal arts”?
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Nov 30, 2011 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
That's my guess
I never asked for clarification about that exact term when it was used. I just figured it couldn’t mean anything else.
You know, if Kahn's head is in the right place
And Adelman’s son is good – it could actually work.
Kahn seems to get the contract/negotiation part pretty well. If he will accept BB input from Sr. and stats input from Jr. and then work his contract/cap management magic, it could be a very strange but workable situation.
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Nov 30, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
Better indicators of success
Rubio is a solid starter and D-Will hits over 40% of his 3s. Many problems will be solved if this is the case.
Yes, having, you know, good players
Occam’s Razor is very powerful.
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Nov 30, 2011 4:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I've heard it's a Braun.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Nov 30, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Dark legal arts
sounds so Sun Tze, I just hope there’s no strategizing going on…
We all know where that leads.
Timberwolves 2011:
Kahnceptual Performance Art
Hey it beats
Telephone Sanitizer
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Nov 30, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
Glen sounds a lot like my brother
You gotta pay the troll toll, to get into this boy's soul.
twitter.com/JayAreW
I just installed Skyrim last night.
I was trying to wait for the end of the school year, but I broke down. Now the goal is to not play very much until school ends. That will probably last until Saturday.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Nov 30, 2011 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
I'm already getting sick of MW3
And have been making eyes at Skyrim. Did you get this for a PC or a console? Any idea which is the better route to take as I have a nice gaming rig and an Xbox sitting idle.
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Whatever set up has the best individual experience
I’d roll with that. This isn’t an on-line experience and it is decidedly anti-social. I went the 360 route with a super-duper pair of headphones.
I think you sold me on the Xbox
and the new 60" plasma sitting in my living room. I bought a gaming PC for Civilization V, and work I suppose, but keep gravitating back to the Xbox for multi-platform games.
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
If you happen to have a Wii sitting idle
I highly recommend Monster Hunter 3 (Tri). Very addictive and awesome. Kind of an RPG, but you constantly fight giant dragons and sea serpents, and they are hard as #$## to beat. You have learn their moves to avoid being burnt to a crisp or stompled to death. When you defeat one it is a blast, and you use horns/hide/whatever from the creature to craft new armor & weapons. Most fun I’ve had since Diablo II came out about 10 years ago.
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Nov 30, 2011 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
This sounds intriguing
But my motion game playing is on the Kinect. I have a feeling that Kinect Sports 2 will be under the christmas tree for me this year.
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
Arkham City
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7146482/batman-arkham-city
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glQ7fTxaWPI
I have it on my x-mas wish list. I’ve heard a ton of good things about it.
sweet I might look that up
I’ve been having way to much fun with Empire Total War (The Total War games are the best strategy). That and 2K12 take up my limited gaming time.
I'm Trill, I'm running w/ the WOLVES
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Dec 1, 2011 9:39 AM CST up reply actions
I don't know about the console version,
but the PC version runs more smoothly than a smooth-running thing. I think once I allow myself to put time into it, it’s going to eat my life.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Nov 30, 2011 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
Oh Oh here she comes
Watch out boys she’ll chew you up…
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
It's crack
It’s absolute crack. Although, I think this review is pretty much spot-on:
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7290527/one-night-skyrim-makes-strong-man-crumble
The dialogue is cringe-worthy and I have a few friends who swear that Dark Souls is the better game precisely because it lacks a story.
The story part worries me
I absolutely love the Mass Effect games precicsely because I enjoy the story about as much as the game play. Mass Effect 3 will be a pre-order game for me.
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
Me too
It’s apparently a love/hate thing where even the people who love it have to slog it through the very beginnings of the game in order to get to the love part of it.
now im worried
i might see mankato glen riding around town on a stolen horse axing people for their gold coin.
So far I'm just
beating people down with my two-handed sword and looting everything. I make a lot of trips to the merchant. Why can’t they be open all night like in Morrowind?
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Nov 30, 2011 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
Skyrim is awesome...
And it takes up nearly all my post kids-going-to-bed time… and some of my I really should be in bed but that F’in giant just sent me into orbit again.
by Krotz the Wall on Dec 1, 2011 8:04 AM CST up reply actions
F'ing giants, indeed
All I want it to kill a mammoth for its tusk so I can sell it to some lady for who knows what. Those damn things don’t appreciate the mammoth hunting.
How about Love and Jordan?
I know Jordan aint Chandler on D. Whatever. Amnesty Darko, buy out Miller, s&t Wes for Afflalo, s&t Beasley (and Pek?) for Jordan.
Your new starting five: Rubio, Afflalo, DWill, Love, Jordan. Ridnour, Lee, Webster, Tolliver, Randolph as your second unit. I could live with that.
For that matter, I know rookies don’t often get traded, but Biyombo can’t really be untouchable, can he? Offer to swap Beasley and Maggette’s contracts, and I don’t think they’d need much else.
by deus04 on Nov 30, 2011 3:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It should be noted, at some point
that Jordan is a pretty horrible offensive player, when he’s not dunking. The counter to that would be “but he doesn’t try to be a good scorer like Darko.” The counter to that counter is that “Darko isn’t the standard for quality center play.”
I’m still pissed we didn’t draft Jordan, but he isn’t going to be any sort of savior for a team.
I was doing flips when he was available to us
…and then…well, you know…
You can't dust for vomit.
He's Tyson Chandler, Jr. in many ways.
The two of them make up a shockingly high percentage of alley-oop baskets in the league as a whole.
"Opinion ...a confession."
- experience, attitude, bball iq, etc…
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Dec 1, 2011 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
I like most of those moves individually
But we’d basically have an offense full of low-usage players and a distributor who can’t score consistently. DWill would likely have to become a 25-30 ppg type guy and Anthony Randolph would have to provide steady offensive production from the bench. I guess It could work given time but I don’t think the offense would consistently break 80 points per game in this scenario.
My point on Kidd and Stevenson
Isn’t as much about my actually wanting Afflalo as it is to suggest that there is no absolute formula for success as it relates to what functions need to be filled by which positions…..The Wolves just need people that produce.
by Rascal Flatts on Nov 30, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
They are both pretty solid three-point shooters
I doubt Afflalo and Rubio can match those two at long-range shooting at this point in their young careers.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
Oh?
I don’t think Afflalo gives up much in terms of keeping the defense honest from three.
Last year Afflalo shot 50 points better than Stevenson, on almost exactly the same attempt total. He shot 80 points better than Kidd. Compared.
For their careers, he’s shot the three more often than Stevenson, and better, in his shorter career so far. Kidd, again, is 60 points down from Afflalo’s career 3P%.
The weakness is driving, and “shot creation.” He’s been able to play the lead scorer’s role in summer leagues, though. And he was UCLA’s go-to guy in college. So the usage thing seems like it might be able to change somewhat.
"Opinion ...a confession."
I was thinking in about him and Rubio in tandem
Regardless, your points on Afflalo v. Mavs duo certainly make my point that much weaker. Now that I think of it, I seem to remember Afflalo always being near the top of the 3PM list on the fantasy basketball waiver wire. Don’t know why that passed my mind. I suppose I should stop being so lazy with the facts, especially now that actual NBA basketball will start being played soon.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
To be real honest,
I posted that mostly because being able to use the “Compare Players” feature without having to think about the damn lockout makes me effing giddy right now. Every time. Giddy.
"Opinion ...a confession."
by feral on Nov 30, 2011 8:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
for the sentiment.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Nov 30, 2011 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
But is Afflalo really that much of an upgrade over a guy we already have?
by Rascal Flatts on Nov 30, 2011 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
in a perfect world..
..that’s what kahn thought he was getting in that trade. It just so happened that webster did not recover from back injuries as well as was hoped. I remember when we traded for webster I was pumped. Look back at some of his games right before the trade, they were phenomenal. Just so happened that the back was worse than expected (back injuries are the worst, firsthand) and he never regained his form. It’s too bad, as with the rest of the roster he has bucketloads of ‘potential’.
Arron Afflalo
Very decent defender, great playing off the ball, good outside shot. His career Usage number is only 14.5%, which is basically why he may be attainable at a modest figure.
Whether he starts next to Rubio is one thing, but he’d play well in this context I think.
"Opinion ...a confession."
Here's another one: Rondo.
There’s some rationale for trading a guy like this, but what could the Celtics realistically expect in return? It’s much easier to find scorers/gunners and KG them into playing defense than it is to replace a guy who defends and manages the tempo like Rondo does.
The good news is hopeful doesn't mean dumb. The bad news is cynical doesn't mean smart. -- Sarah Silverman
by pagingstanleyroberts on Nov 30, 2011 10:22 AM CST reply actions
Rajon Rondo must be one seriously coachable gent.
Rondo is basically a decade younger then the rest of the Celtics’ stars, and he’s the one they’re talking about dealing? He’s been shopped the last two offseasons, apparently.
"Opinion ...a confession."
That was the first thought in my head too
Why in the world are they looking to trade Rondo; you’d think he is the guy they’d look to rebuild around. He must be a major pill.
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Nov 30, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
Either that or Ainge simply thinks his value can only decline.
Hard to see a GM making a choice like that, though, when he had a contending team built around that player being pretty danged effective at present. It’d be a heck of a long-term view to take, given that you were doing things like trying to get Shaq functional for one last run with the rest of the roster.
All signs point to Rajon Rondo being Gort the robot, ready to destroy the planet if his friends retire.
"Opinion ...a confession."
Well the shopping included getting back CP3
The Celtics roster for 2013 looks like Pierce, Rondo and Bradley. If they somehow turned Rondo into CP3 they would be looking at Pierce, CP3 and a sizable amount of cap space for whoever else they could get. It’s not a bad place to be. Committed to stars and no one else.
600 N First Ave "like a Pirate's cove".
As for Paul to the Knicks...
People who assume that they will be Miami’s chief rival with those 3 on the team will be sorely disappointed IMO. None of the 3 are potentially dominant defenders the same way Wade and LeBron are, and 2 of 3 are notable injury risks. I also think Stoudemire and Paul are both going to get worse, not better.
The good news is hopeful doesn't mean dumb. The bad news is cynical doesn't mean smart. -- Sarah Silverman
by pagingstanleyroberts on Nov 30, 2011 10:26 AM CST reply actions
I agree
I think Miami’s chief rival will be whoever can get an elite PG and an elite C and surround them with wing defenders. The Brooklyn Nets with Deron and Dwight would give Miami all sorts of problems surrounded by the right players. I want to watch that.
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
I think Miami's chief rival for the next few years will be injury.
Serious injury to Bosh or reoccurring small injuries to anyone has to be more of a threat than most other rosters will be.
600 N First Ave "like a Pirate's cove".
Wade is definitely an injury risk
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
Every day of the week and twice on game day!
600 N First Ave "like a Pirate's cove".
Not me....
He reminds me of Chris Webber for some reason with that mopey, “I’m better than this, so I’m not going to give it my all” aura.
I still think the Ellis\ Iggy conversation is one to keep check of.
Still have my Foye jersey. Hey- at least she TRIED! :--)
by LoveLovesLove on Dec 1, 2011 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
Can you imagine an Eastern Conference
with LBJ/Wade/Bosh vs. Deron/Dwight vs. CP3/Melo/Stoudemire vs. The Bulls?
Let’s assume that Rubio turns out to be this generations Jason Kidd and that Derrick Williams becomes a go-to scorer worthy of the #2 pick. Let’s then also assume that the Wolves resign Kevin Love and mature as a core of Rubio-Williams-Love. What superteams should they be afraid of? (Cue Tim Allen’s “None” response)
I’d rank them in this order:
1A. Dwight+Deron
1B. Dwight+CP3
2. Wade+Lebron+Bosh
3. CP3+Melo+Stat
4. Conley+Gay+ZBo+Gasol
5. Dwight+Pau+Kobe (only because that team ages too quicly assuming the Wolves need 2 years to gel)
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None.
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by TimAllen on Nov 30, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 11 recs
rec'd
Tim at his best.
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Nov 30, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait- I though "we" were going to get Pau??
Hey- Rubio and Gasol look good together whenever they’re on the same pine.
…. it could happen.
Still have my Foye jersey. Hey- at least she TRIED! :--)
by LoveLovesLove on Dec 1, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
LA
May need to put Pau in a deal to get Dwight… It doesn’t look like they’d accept Bynum and Odom… They want Bynum and Pau. That’s just the rumor so far…
So the rumor says. Apparently the rumor thinks Orlando isn't rebuilding, so much.
"Opinion ...a confession."
I think you'd have to have
CP3+Blake on there, as well as Durant+Westbrook+Harden.
by LoveTo on Nov 30, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Excellent suggestions
was just spitballin. I purposely did not include the Bulls as I don’t think they match up with the other eastern super teams, but those two western contenders are definitely potential thorns for the assumed Wolves.
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
The ultimate super team no one thought of
1AAA. Arenas/Delonte West/Tyreke
That team will literally “kill” any other Big 3 and have a getaway driver too.
by YoLeo on Nov 30, 2011 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I think you just broke my brain
by following the word “literally” with a word in scare quotes.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Nov 30, 2011 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I think in my case
it’s legitimate to put “brain” in scare quotes.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Nov 30, 2011 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Kings of course.
Tyreke/Cousins/(2012 draft pick) perhaps?
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Nov 30, 2011 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
C'mon, buy in to Jimmer-mania...
DerrickRickRicky
by BrettAhlgren on Nov 30, 2011 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
I know this one...
What is “2 guys who will be at least 15 lbs. overweight when camp starts and a 2012 draft pick”?
The good news is hopeful doesn't mean dumb. The bad news is cynical doesn't mean smart. -- Sarah Silverman
by pagingstanleyroberts on Nov 30, 2011 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
Jerry Stackhouse and Stanley Roberts are suddenly franchise players? Who knew ;)
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by Ebomb on Nov 30, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Screenshot'd
Will re-post in 4 months.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Nov 30, 2011 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
Ha!
Nice. Whenever I have second thoughts about whether the Wolves should have taken DMC I look at comparison charts like this and realize for all his potential, future All-Stars playing in their first seasons all performed at a much higher level than DMC just did. Loved him in college, but his start in the NBA was not impressive.
I’ll put March 30, 2012 on the calendar.
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
Force-feeding an immature rookie 27% usage isn’t necessarily a recipe for efficiency. But haters gonna hate.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Nov 30, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
You say force-feeding, I say force-taking. Excusing statistics is great and all, but I surely expect improvement over the next 3 years, I just don’t think his ceiling is as high as apparently you do.
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
You say force-feeding, I say force-taking.
This is where watching games and being familiar matters.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Nov 30, 2011 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
You're assuming
Ebomb didn’t watch games and isn’t familiar. Might be true, but it doesn’t seem to be a reasonable assumption.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Nov 30, 2011 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
Hmm, I guess I didn’t see Westphal forcing Cousins to take spot up jumpers from 20 feet all season long. Then I go to synergy sports and they tell me that the statistics back up my eyes in that Demarcus Cousins was absolutely putrid in Spot Up situations, yet used a significant amount of possessions doing just that.
DeMarcus will hopefully learn to foul less, will hopefully get in better in shape (not a certainty), and will hopefully cut down on his turnovers (most rookies eventually do), but someone is going to have to convince the child inside his head to make efficient team decisions on the basketball court. Beasely still hasn’t learned how to do this which is why many here don’t want to commit to him long term. The fact I’m bearish on Cousins’ ability to do this has nothing to do with watching games and familiarity (I watch plenty), it’s more of a feeling. But that’s the benefit of being a fan, I get to choose how I feel about players with no reprecussions besides my online psuedonym reputation.
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
To his defense..
I saw a rookie placed in a main scorer’s role. Where his facilitators got him the ball in places he did not know what to do with it. Young player in that spot will force a lot of shots.
But, there’s always the side of ‘maybe he just is a jerk as he appears’ and tried to mccants the shit. Cousins is not at the point yet where he can get the ball at the upper block and do something good with it.
Here is where we should start comparing Wes and DMC
Now… did Khan actually make a bad decision or not?
Looking at the turnovers, I think Wes “scored” quite a few more points, since those should count against DMC.
Still have my Foye jersey. Hey- at least she TRIED! :--)
by LoveLovesLove on Dec 1, 2011 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
Argh- I can't get my darn link working...
Still have my Foye jersey. Hey- at least she TRIED! :--)
by LoveLovesLove on Dec 1, 2011 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
They would be the Yin to Miami's Yang.
Superstar PG and C vs Superstar SG, SF and PF.
I think that would be awesome. And I agree that a Paul/Amare/Melo trio would be more of the same. In fact I doubt they would do any better than Felton/Amare/Melo.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Nov 30, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
He won't help their team defense,
he won’t score significantly more than 19 ppg, he won’t assist significantly more than 10 ast/gm. I guess that’s why.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Nov 30, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
He'll guard opposing PGs better than Felton did, he'll force more turnovers than Felton did...
he’ll run the pick-and-roll with Stoudemire about 50 times better than Felton did, he’ll shoot three-pointers to space the floor better than Felton did, he’ll get out in transition with Melo and Amare better than Felton did… I thin there’s more.
Felton was traded for Melo
Everyone’s point: Moot. Unless we’re discussing a hypothetical superteam that involves Raymond Felton. That simply does not interest me.
Hard to argue with this kind of hyperbole:
about 50 times better
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Nov 30, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
That is the important part of my comment.
by LoveTo on Nov 30, 2011 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
(Sebastian P. had a nice little page on how much Felton had improved with Amar'e in the p-n-roll.)
"Opinion ...a confession."
Maybe his raw numbers won't exceed that
But he’ll improve the efficiency of the team, more than likely.
if the Knicks were smart
they’d offer either Stoudemire/Fields/Billups/whatever or Melo/Fields/Billups/whatever for Dwight and make an all out bid for cp3.
a big 3 of Paul, Melo or Stoudemire, and Dwight would be DOMINANT.
There is no way they trade Melo
after going through what they did to get him
JonnyRotten Flynn, that is
According to Bodog.com, odds that the Wolves win the Western Conference are 60-to-1
Odds the Wolves win the NBA Championship are 150-to-1.
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so there's a chance
I'm Trill, I'm running w/ the WOLVES
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Nov 30, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i made pretty good money
by betting on Love as the league rebound leader before last season started. it seemed like an obvious pick to me, based on the RB% stat.
...I've been drinking...
by losDelFuego on Nov 30, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
Here's an interesting one.
The o/u for Miami Heat wins is 48.5. 49 wins would be a .742 win%. Last year, two teams had winning percentages better than that (Spurs .744 and Bulls .756). The Heat had a .707 win%, but could be better this year if they sign a guy like Dalembert with the MLE.
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my hunch
has the Heat being less impressive this season than last, and having a more grounded (but still very good) win%. this is based on nothing but gut feeling, and obviously, is subject to change depending on player movement in the next couple weeks. but i’d take the under if my betting site offered that line. (it doesn’t.)
...I've been drinking...
Awesome.
I’m endowing the “Mr. and Mrs. PoorDIck Chair of Photoshoppery at THE Canis Hoopus,” and we would be honoured by the favour of your application.
If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.
That's
“special.”
Thanks for that.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Nov 30, 2011 11:49 PM CST up reply actions
Kahn Creep---
“I mean he’s only 19. It’s just so amazing to me how young these kids are. This kid has a body that’s hard to believe. He’s 6-10, 260 [pounds], 6 percent body fat, he’s really sturdy. I think that he’ll have a very long and productive career.” – http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/124396524.html
Dingus Kahn, it's over
60 to 1?
Are you sure you aren’t missing a zero? No way do I lay down even a nickel at 60-1.
They say it's always darkest just before dawn and man, was it dark last year. Come to think of it, I'm not needing my sunglasses this year, either.
But, the chance of me making the $3.00
Is like one in a thousand.
They say it's always darkest just before dawn and man, was it dark last year. Come to think of it, I'm not needing my sunglasses this year, either.
I'm pretty sure its 60-to-1.
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by TimAllen on Nov 30, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 11 recs
That’s what they want you to think.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Nov 30, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
It's the transition from 60-1 to 150-1 that loses me.
So they win the WCF, but then if they get to the Finals, whoa, it gets harder then"?
"Opinion ...a confession."
NBA learned nothing from the NFL
First they let games be canceled…and then they END the lockout and say…HEY, WAIT UNTIL DEC 9 FOR FREE AGENCY.
Excitement curbed.
Can't start free agency until agreement is finalized and approved by both owners and players
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
Without billable hours
Jeffrey Kessler’s kids wouldn’t have one of those Lexus’ wrapped up in a pretty red bow under the tree this christmas.
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
by Ebomb on Nov 30, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I was just ironing and saw one of those.
Car dealers need to sell product, I get it. But how many people really truly give someone a car for Christmas?
The premise of the commercial is (narrated, something like) “If you’re going to give an extraordinary present, give it in an extraordinary way.” They show a woman turning a little music box, and a tune plays…. It must be the Lexus jingle or something. And I’m just thinking, Stick to the music box. Your wife doesn’t want you to commit to a Lexus lease without her having a say in the car, dude. She wants the music box on Christmas morning.
"Opinion ...a confession."
Those and the Christmas-time jewelry commercials
make me want to throw things at the TV.
The melodramatic lines that the men say after they present the jewelry
are so creepily delivered that I’m convinced they’re all psychopaths. The blank stares don’t help either.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
"I'm right here. And I always will be..."
WITH THIS NEWLY SHARPENED BUTCHER KNIFE!!!
DerrickRickRicky
by BrettAhlgren on Nov 30, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
I think that is the worst commercial of all time.
Start with the baseline schlock that is a jewelry commercial, add in the hyper-patronizing dialogue, and top it off with the worst acting this side of Jessica Simpson, and you get that perfect storm of stupid.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Nov 30, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
This one is a favorite of mine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTSdUOC8Kac
Not quite as good as their “I’d Hit That” f*$k a hamburger ad campaign, but pretty good for TV.
Bwahahaha that is hilarious
I never saw that one.
This is what happens when middle-aged+ people try to incorporate “youthful slang” into an ad campaign to attempt to reach to speak to that demographic.
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Nov 30, 2011 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
The sad thing is that they understood the term.
There’s no other way to explain the companion ad banner:
Wow
I am speechless. I am without speech. (Copyright George Costanza).
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Nov 30, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
I think this ad campaign was America's jump the shark moment
;)
Nobody in the room stood up to say that building an ad campaign around the idea of f’ing a hamburger might not be the best way to sell food. I’m pretty sure this caused the housing bubble in a butterfly-flapping-its-wings sort of way.
"america's jump the shark moment"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar63hdA6gyQ
Couldn’t help it, stanhope is my favorite comedian. But the link also has NSFW audio.
I work for a smaller company
That was bought out by a giant corporation a few years back and has slowly been getting consumed into the big company. Last year, we transitioned over to their network and were introduced to their concept of wireless internet for visitors to the office, which they called the Visitor Access Gateway and abbreviated VAG. I started giggling like crazy in the back of the presentation room.
Please tell me where you work
so that I can stop by and ask the receptionist, “How do I gain access to your VAG?”
If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.
by PoorDick on Nov 30, 2011 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Lockouts begin and end...
coaches and players come and go, but, dammit, PD never disappoints!
Well played, sir!
"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."
— Hunter S. Thompson
I'm not sure it would matter either way
Even if they guard the VAG closely, you can always find backdoor access.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
I followed your previous post's link
And the second one is from a list of parodies. Still, doesn’t make the first one any less strange.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
Yeah - everyone makes mistakes...
A company that I know of has a brand name “Cleanload”. They gave a prize to person who came up with that brilliant name.
by Breaking Ankles on Nov 30, 2011 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
One of my favorite labels around here is on a hamper.
But wait! No! It’s not a “hamper.” It’s a Lamper! Because that somehow means it’s a totally new hybrid between a laundry basket and a hamper. See? See?
Somewhere out there, the committee that arrived at this cunning new name is congratulating itself, having had its existence validated by my purchase. I regret that. That company needed to make…. Well, to make a cleanload of the whole group of ’em.
"Opinion ...a confession."
In my experience
it is quite rare for women to look completely surprised & delighted and then start to cry. Usually they say
“Oh that’s pretty!”
with an moderate smile that hints at
“I knew it was going to be jewelry”
or
“Looks expensive, but I would have preferred white gold”
or possibly
“so that’s what that $500 bill on our shared credit card was about.”
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Nov 30, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
I would add
“If you think this is going to get you oral sex from me, think again.”
If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.
That's what you hear when you hit the SAP button during Lexus commercials
People think it’s Spanish but it’s really technology derived from that Mel Gibson movie where he could hear the thoughts in Helen Hunt’s head.
by Stop-n-Pop on Nov 30, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
They have to write the whole new CBA...
That’s about a 300-400 page document. They have to finish writing that, then give the players and owners time to review it and vote on it to make it official.
Dude, perspective...
You do realize that we are less than a month from the first Rubio-DWill alley oop; the first properly run fast break in about five years; rational substitutions; watching a pg from the 09 draft class NOT shit all over the court ten times a game and walk away grinning stupidly about it; and so on and so on. Compared to that, who cares that we have to wait another week to find out who’s going to overpay Nene, West, and Gasol?
by deus04 on Nov 30, 2011 11:18 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 6 recs
This
made me laugh! Just the thought of some high school chasing Jonny Flynn around the court during breaks with shovels and garbage cans on wheels. That’s gold, Jerry! Gold!
by Dr. Wolfenstein on Nov 30, 2011 11:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think a high school
chasing Jonny Flynn around the court may not be able to catch him, but eventually Jonny would run head-long into the high school.
If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.
Not before:
dribbling off his foot.
I know, it’s just too stinking easy…
Timberwolves 2011:
Kahnceptual Performance Art
One rumor I found...
Marc Gasol is seeking 9 million a year or he will go back to Europe.
Marca.com is reporting this.
I think we’ll probably have around 10 million to spend this off-season, and he’d be a great add, IMO.
It also helps that some of our most promising young players are on their rookie scale, so we could afford him going forward. I’d say offer 4 years/38 million (9.5 per)
PG: Rubio, Ridnour
SG: Johnson, Webster
SF: Williams, Beasley
PF: Love, Tolliver
C: Gasol, Miller, Darko
I personally don’t see much of a future on this team for Anthony Randolph, at least with Kevin Love around. He seems like a more athletic, more careless, worse shooting, T.O. prone version of K-Love, and Tolliver brings a lot to the table, offensively and defensively…
I think Europe should be prepared to continue to watch Gasol play basketball
in the NBA
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
Agreed.
I thought he could seek more than that actually. If he said he wanted 12 million, I think a team may have ponied up that amount. I don’t think I’d want the Wolves to do that, but I’d be very happy if we get him for under 10 mil a year..
I don't get why Nene would get paid more than Gasol
and they think Nene will get a max deal
JonnyRotten Flynn, that is
He'll get more than that
plus, never, ever, believe anything printed in Marca. They just make stuff up.
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Nov 30, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
Now will you all please raise your right hand ... and place the paper bag over your head.
by Cedarpenguin on Nov 30, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
Zgoda reported that the Wolves two preseason games will be against
the Milwaukee Bucks. No dates so far.
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No dates so far.
Maybe need a wardrobe makeover?
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Nov 30, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Have you seen David Kahn in shorts? I don't think getting dates would be a problem for him.
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The shorts are nice...
But he looks even better in a cut-off T-shirt. Priceless.
15 wolves players will be under contract as I count it.
In addition, the wolves will have to try and extend some important contracts. This would seem to put the damper on going after a player like Gasol or D.Jordan from two of our rivals. ( A four year 36 million offer though, would ensure that those teams would have to pay to retain their centers).
Based on a calculation I read about Nene getting a maximum contract. Love likely will have to be offered something like 74 million over 4 years. Then there is Beasley, AR, and Toliver to consider extending. Even with the Amnesty is there a way to do it?
Yes - it is going to be tricky
I think the Wolves should amnesty Darko. Then they need to decide if AR is a starter at C. He isn’t going to get PF burn here. If he is a starter resign him. If not, don’t unless he comes at a reasonable price.
I would trade Beasley as I think he is a talented player but not one we can count on. I don’t want to be locked into a big dollar deal with a volume scoring 3/4 combo guy. Baby Al Harrington v 2.0? If accepts a bench role and a reasonable contract – great. But at this point in his career it is hard to see that happening.
Wolves really need some roster balancing trades. Trade some excess forwards for a legit, above average SG and C.
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Nov 30, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
Why does everyone forget Pek?
Just saying – dude could be good with Sikma helping him.
At any rate, I hope hope hope the Wolves have Plans A, B, and C worked out for what they want to do. Who stays? Who goes? Can you sign a D. Jordan and still sign a Battier? What if Adelman falls under the spell of Darko?
I think this team has far less cash to spend than we think. Love will get his, and they may wait and see what we have this year and save money going into Loves extension. After Love Beasley is the only other guy needing resolution, and he is replaceable. In fact, his replacement is already on the team. So where does that leave Skittles? My guess is as a spot starter and super sixth man on a playoff team.
AntRand? I don’t know why, but I keep thinking that Adelman is going to be intrigued and have him focus on one or two very specific roles – that he’s going to try and tap ARs talent by limiting what he’s trying to do. Don’t think so much, just play.
I’m prepared for a handful of guys to get 30 mpg, a handful to get less than 5 mpg, and a bunch getting 20 mpg until they play themselves into a tight rotation. Adelman needs to find out how all this is going to work.
Finally, Pek. Dude fouls a lot, he struggled here last year. Dudes also the only legit 7’ beast we have on the roster. He’s a legit scorer around the hoop, and a guy who could shoot close to .700 playing serious minutes with Rubio. Oh, and he’s only 25-26. We need players like this to match up against the Bynums and DMCs out there. I’m not sure Darko lasts here, but I think Pek does (I hope he does). If not, he’ll be perhaps the best trade chip/sweetener we have.
by Dr. Wolfenstein on Nov 30, 2011 11:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I agree that they should have plans figured out
It’s one thing if those plans don’t work (that happens), but there’s no excuse for being caught off-guard. They’ve had enough time to prepare, the coaches have had time to watch tape on all of the players and make recommendations, and the owner should’ve been preparing them for the rules they’d be operating under. The extent of their activity between now and opening night will indicate a lot about what Adelman thinks of the current roster and how likely it is that Kahn will be around after this season.
The good news is hopeful doesn't mean dumb. The bad news is cynical doesn't mean smart. -- Sarah Silverman
by pagingstanleyroberts on Nov 30, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
What if Adelman falls under the spell of Darko?
He coached against him – I think he is smart enough to understand what he has there. Should they cut Darko? I certainly wouldn’t be opposed to it if they can sign another center that is an upgrade but in reality they might not find an upgrade that they can lock-up. I say this and I am NOT a Darko fan – I hope he has a break out year, just like every fan of one of his teams has always hoped, but I have my doubts he’ll ever be more than what he has shown thus far. The problem is I am not sure they will actually be able to sign a player that is an upgrade. AR is an easy arguement here but to me that is just creating another out of position peg in the mix. AR can sub C in chunks – I don’t think he is the Wolves answer for a starting C.
by Breaking Ankles on Nov 30, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
Pek shouldn't be a center
He’s an amped up 4. Too short and not enough hops to make up for it at the 5.
He’s a tough player, and I like him. But, he’s never going to be the answer next to Love. We need a shot blocking defensive center.
Pek
Makes up for it by standing in the way of cutters; thereby, requiring them to dislodge teeth and jaw.
Dingus Kahn, it's over
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Wolves likely don't need to amnesty Darko.
They would buy him out instead based on the gentleman’s agreement.
I may have missed your point
but if we aren’t using the amnesty on somebody else wouldn’t using it on Darko be better for both sides than a buyout? Darko gets paid the full amount and the Wolves don’t suffer a cap hit from it. If we reached a different buyout agreement with Darko he’d get less, and we’d suffer more from it.
If there is no compelling need to use the amnesty now you don't.
We may have ample reason to use it on the next contract of Love, Beasley, Williams, Johnson etc over the course of the next 6-10 years. Injuries and underachieving happen.
600 N First Ave "like a Pirate's cove".
can't use it on Love's next contract
or beasley or Williams. beasley is on his last year, no need to amnesty him, as for williams, he’s not currently under contract and can’t be amnestied. Love’s next contract can’t be amnestied either. Johnson could, but I don’t think there would be any value in using it that way. too small a contract, we just wont gain enough cap space amnesting someone still on his rookie contract. the best use for us would be in a trade, let some team over the cap trade us a bad contract to amnesty for them in return for a descent player of draft pick. the question is is there any team’s out there with at least 2 killer contracts that need to be amnestied?
Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?
by the Real Thor on Dec 1, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
Re:Trade
http://twitter.com/#!/ZachLowe_SI/statuses/141879493315928064
So that means our only motivation to wait instead of using it on Darko is if they believe he can turn it around under Adelman (compelling reasons for both sides of the argument). Otherwise it appears we can only use it on the current roster of players for their current contract values.
For the record I haven’t seen this anywhere besides Zach Lowe’s twitter, so I’m holding out hope that he’s heard misinformation, because it would be nice if we could trade for a bad contract and gain a draft pick or something.
What I believe we need to do...
Offer Love a deal he will accept. If it has to be a max contract, it has to be a max contract. If it’s a 4 year deal, Williams and Rubio will both be relatively cheap during that contract.
Beasley, IMO, is a excellent 6th man. I think he deserves around 5 million a year. It may be a pay cut, but I would offer 5 years, 25 million. Take it or leave it.
AR, doesn’t have a long term spot on this team. I like the guy, and I would showcase him a lot early in the season and trade him. Unless he can bulk up another 25 pounds and play C, I don’t think he’s a long-term player on this team.
Anthony Tolliver, I feel differently about. I like what he brings. I think he would be almost as valuable to the team as AR, and come at about 30% of the price. I would offer Tolliver a 4 year 10 million deal to back up Love. I am 100% fine with Tolliver getting 15 minutes a game for the next 4 years.
I can't fathom the team giving Beasley a 5 year deal and Love a 4 year deal.
The only 5 year deals available as extensions under the proposed CBA are for max rookie extensions limited to one per team. We can’t extend Love for 5 years unless its a max contract. Same for Beasley and it would be one or the other if we even tried.
600 N First Ave "like a Pirate's cove".
Well, here's some good news from Marc Stein's Twitter:
“Story link coming shortly, but NBPA fears w/out 260 signed union authorization cards turned in by Thursday night, new CBA could be delayed.”
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Yep. Because they can't get scans of the signature cards returned, supposedly.
Personally, I can’t wait for that quintuple header on December 27th!
"Opinion ...a confession."
Did you see mention of that elsewhere?
Stein’s Tweet/article is the first mention of this possibly being an issue.
Yeah, let me see....
Steve Kyler handing off something of David Aldridge’s:
According to @daldridgetnt.. Players were mailed Union cards asking them to vote “yes” or “No” to reform union, then scan and e-mail them…
Here are two issues with this process… I know of 70 players that are nowhere near home (they are training)… let alone near a scanner.
(Yesterday’s Aldridge story from the NBA.com site, mentioning the cards.)
"Opinion ...a confession."
Yeah, and you might want your agent to have a computer. Maybe one with a network cable. Perhaps.
"Opinion ...a confession."
remember the bane of many a professional athlete
the “IT department” is run by some high school friend named tito who has two interests in life: titty bars and stashing the weed.
I think this has nothing to do with the players' opinion on the proposed deal
And everything to do with the union/trade association’s utter failure in disseminating information. Players have been complaining for months about not knowing what the @#$# is going with negotiations. Not knowing what the main proposal deal points were, what Billy’s strategy was, etc.
I dunno if it is because players are so hard to reach in the offseason, or if players are not reading their email, or if Billy just doesn’t know what he is doing, or ?
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Nov 30, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
You can't expect Jonny Flynn to sign his union card when a Martin movie marathon is on TV
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by TimAllen on Nov 30, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
When the pass leaves your hands and goes right into the stands, that's amore.
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by TimAllen on Nov 30, 2011 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
and the popcorn you eat has now covered your feet, that's amore.
by fanslaststand on Nov 30, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Awesome, both of you.
And I think the actual lyrics are perfectly fine for the next part:
Bells’ll ring
Ting-a-ling-a-ling
Ting-a-ling-a-ling
And you’ll sing “Vita bella”
Hearts’ll play
Tippi-tippi-tay
Tippi-tippi-tay
Like a gay tarantella
If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.
This is my 1,700th comment on Canis
And I haven’t written anything about basketball yet. I’d like to thank the 2 years of virtually unwatchable professional basketball played by the Wolves but also the wonderful Hoopus community, without which none of this could have been possible.
by fanslaststand on Nov 30, 2011 6:54 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
apparently I was the only one who thought that Jonny having an NBA union card was the joke
by rickyp on Nov 30, 2011 7:15 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
LOL'd
Still have my Foye jersey. Hey- at least she TRIED! :--)
by LoveLovesLove on Dec 1, 2011 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
Since Denver has only 7 players under contract and expects to lose Nene
I could see Denver willing to do a sign and trade where MN would give Denver a center (Pek?) Beasley and a guard (Wayne for example) but would expect Nene not to be too crazy for it unless he would benefit financially. Possibly With Adelmans coaching however, we might make the playoffs with Nene..
Do Kmart, Chandler, and Smith have the same agent?
Maybe they thought the lock out wasn’t going to end or they hate playing for Denver, but it just seems strange that these three Nugget players would all be locked into these contracts and can’t play ball this year in the NBA.
by Breaking Ankles on Nov 30, 2011 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
Wouldn't it be devious of the league
If the final version of the CBA said players must be signed to rosters by March X in order to be eligible for the playoffs, where March X is like 2 days before the Chinese season ends?
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Nov 30, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
I thought he played for the Yankees?
Still have my Foye jersey. Hey- at least she TRIED! :--)
by LoveLovesLove on Dec 1, 2011 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
Adelman's first great decision
is not being with Kahn at tomorrow’s media event
Reduce turnovers, reduce personal fouls, shoot better, win.
Who wants to be in the background of a Kahn picture
that runs Friday morning next to the headline
“Kahn sees bright future for young Wolves; claims he was abducted by aliens during the lockout”
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Nov 30, 2011 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
Ahhhh Kahn jokes
I love em all. Still can’t believe ppl want to get rid of him.
by fanslaststand on Dec 1, 2011 6:40 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
The 'serious' clause in your statement
is the deal-breaker
I think we land Pau, Nene, Ellis, Iggy...
(only one of course, but in that order). I might still prefer it the other way around. Pau and Nene were a toss-up.
Still have my Foye jersey. Hey- at least she TRIED! :--)
by LoveLovesLove on Dec 1, 2011 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
Wolves are going after Hayes
That has to mean they are talking to the other Centers as well.
Hayes teaching KLove some D would be awesome.
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/nba/111201-five-teams-in-the-hunt-for-chuck-hayes
We already have this guy.
His name is Pekovic.
I think Adelman will be doing some defensive teaching.
Still have my Foye jersey. Hey- at least she TRIED! :--)
by LoveLovesLove on Dec 1, 2011 11:44 PM CST up reply actions
seconded
I'm Trill, I'm running w/ the WOLVES
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Dec 2, 2011 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
This
Ignores the fact that Chuck Hayes’ main focus is on defense, where he is regarded by many as one of the best post defenders in the league. Pekovic may have similar stats, but that’s with much less impact on the defensive side of the game. There’s also the fact that Pekovic is much larger than Hayes, for whatever that’s worth.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
HIS POINT
STILL STANDS!!!!
(ahhhh . . . it’s SO good to have NBA basketball once again . . .)
If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.
This hayes talk sounds pretty sweet
example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6f5Uyu6Dv4
(hayes vs amare)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiW1S7rD3Y0
(hayes vs KG)
Given the shape of a point
it would be really difficult in practice to tell when it was standing vs. sitting.
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Dec 2, 2011 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
That's why
we need PD to tell us.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Dec 2, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
Comparing Hayes to Pek cracks me up.
One is a 6’6" defensive specialist. The other is a 6’11" offensive specialist with short arms and lousy defense.
I do like Pek alot and think that bringing in Hayes to show him what’s up on D would be great for him as well.
Part of Pek's "lousiness" on defense
consisted of two factors:
1. He’s so strong he made legitimate defensive moves look like egregious acts of violence, and
2. He was a rookie. He got called for a lot of bullshit.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Dec 2, 2011 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
Especially 3.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Dec 2, 2011 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
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