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One TWolves FA plan

Step 1: Sign Chuck Hayes to play center for us. He's an unrestricted FA, only 28, he knows Adelman's system, and he's a great defensive presence at center. He has a career WS/48 of .140 - his worst season he had WS/48 of .092, aka better than Darko's best season.

Because let's be realistic here - the Wolves are not going to sign Chandler, they are probably not going to sign DeAndre Jordan (although maybe a trade could be worked out). Glen said recently in an interview with Jerry Z that he didn't think the team was going to be very active in FA because they have a lot of young guys and they want to see what Adelman can do with them. Furthermore, with an extension due Love yesterday this team is not going to lock itself into any sort of contracts that are going to limit what they can do for Love.

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Chuck Hayes is a known defensive presence at center. He knows when to shoot and when not to (career 10.9 USG%), has nearly three times the WS as Darko in nearly the identical amount of minutes. Combined with Darko (because I don't believe we'll amnesty Darko nor do I think we'll be able to trade him), a Hayes/Darko center rotation would be surprisingly effective. Hayes starts, Darko plays with the second team. Both are solid defensively. Darko has good size for when we need it, and a little offense. Hayes will make the starting five better - and he's gettable for what the Wolves have to spend.

Step 2: Find a shooting guard who can create his own shot, knock down open threes, convert alley-oops from Rubio, and play defense. Oh, and not break our limited budget. This player would be required to have good BBIQ as well, and preferably a pretty decent passing touch. This is by far the toughest need for the Wolves to fill. Fortunately there might already be a guy on the roster who can at least make this position average, and no, it is not Malcolm Lee.

I'm talking about Wes Johnson, of course. I know most people on this site think he's a huge bust and a terrible player. Let us go through his season a little bit last year. First, Rambis. Can we agree that Rambis was not good for player development? Has anyone ever noticed that for the most part players did what they always did under Rambis, unless they were eager beaver coach pleasers? Love did his thing, on his own terms, and played damn well (which I believe he would no matter who he played with). Ellington and Lazar continued to just jack up shots. Luke played exactly as advertised, not too great, not too bad. AntRand was amazing one game and completely invisible the next three. Beasley tried and tried and tried. Tolliver bled 'want-to' and heart all over the court every night. Jonny Flynn and Wes, in my opinion, suffered from vast misuse by Rambis.

Seriously, you're going to take a scoring, ball dominant PG and try to make him into Ricky Rubio? Limiting a young player to only working on his weaknesses without giving him a chance to showcase his strengths? How did this guy ever get a coaching contract? Put it down here - Jonny Flynn will look significantly better in Houston than he ever did here because McHale will simply let him be the player he is. And ESPN and Bill Simmons will stumble all over themselves proclaiming that Morey had done it again! Wes Johnson suffered similar coaching inanity last year. "Hey, I've got a great idea! Let's take our super athletic wing and just have him stand in the corner and attempt threes! It'll be great for his development, and other teams will have to account for him! Yay!!"

Utter. Facepalm.

To remind us what he is...

Wesley Johnson Syracuse Highlights (via lambomb222)

Is he a perfect solution for us? Absolutely not. Is he a good enough solution right now given our other salary constraints? Oh hell yes. Consider another first year Ade

lman wing scorer. Do I believe Wes will be another Peja? No, but I do believe that this level of improvement between first and second years is not only possible but probable with Wes. Reducing Wes' offensive role as a three point only guy (seriously, 42.4% of his FGAs were from three last year. That is way too high) to a more well rounded offensive presence will lead to better shot attempts and greater efficiency. I'm not arguing that Wes will ever be a 20 ppg, but on a team featuring Williams, Love, and Beasley as scorers he doesn't need to be. He's another smart option for Rubio to pass to, a legit three point threat as well as at the rim alley oop converter. Oh, and he was the team's best perimeter defender last year after Brewer left.

Step 3: Thin the roster.

Wayne Ellington? Nice knowing you. Nikola Pekovic? Thanks for getting us a late first rounder from somebody! Lazar? Beasley? Don't sign any long leases on that condo downtown.

As I figure it, the Wolves' roster would now look like this:

G - Rubio, Ridnour, Wes, Webster, Malcolm Lee

F - Love, Beasley, Williams, AntRand, Tolliver, Lazar

C - Hayes, Darko, Brad Miller

These young guys need playing time. We have enough guys who are tweeners at SG/SF, SF/PF, and PF/C that we will be better served letting them all play than to try and lock so many into specific roles.

Step 4: Sign Shane Battier.

I think we need a veteran locker room guy - a guy to play 4th quarters/settle the team down when they lose focus, and Battier is one of the best. I know there's not much tread left on those tires, but 15-20 mpg from him combined with his leadership both on and off the court could make a huge difference for these young guys. He knows Adelman's system, he has the longevity in the league to command respect, and he knows how

to win. I think he's the kind of guy that Love, Williams, Rubio, Wes, and others would really respond well too.

RECAP:

Because I know everyone loves these kind of things, my starting lineup after 20 games:

Rubio (Ridnour)

Wes (Webster)

Williams (Beasley)

Love (AntRand)

Hayes (Darko)

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Who's on the Chuck Hayes bandwagon?!
Yeehaw!
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I thought AntRand was our center?
63 votes

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Don't forget,

Kahn extended Ellington and Lazar right before the lockout, so they’re probably not going anywhere. I think Kahn made those moves just so we wouldn’t think he got all competent on us.

I guess Hayes would be an upgrade at center, but I’m not sure it’d make a huge difference relative to moving Love into the center rotation. I’m not too optimistic about Wes becoming a lot better, but I think we’re going to find out the answer to that question whether I like it or not.

I give you bonus points for being fairly realistic about the FA market. My guess is that there won’t be many (if any) roster changes for the Wolves before the season starts.

by Madison Dan on Dec 1, 2011 12:39 PM CST reply actions  

In light of the recent scandals,

I was concerned about watching a video of ANY Syracuse basketball highlights, especially while at work.

If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.

by PoorDick on Dec 1, 2011 12:58 PM CST reply actions  

I went to Syracuse for Grad School

And I just purchased like cool Syracuse Tee-shirts including some that say “Syracuse Basketball”. Now I can’ t wear them. Damnit! Question to the group: How long of a waiting period of time do I need to wait before I can pull out those Syracuse Hoops tee shirts?

I guess i’ts better than wearing Penn State football shirt…….

by pae808 on Dec 2, 2011 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Did you write this because you saw the report

That we reached out to Chuck Hayes’ agent? Cause I read that somewhere. He’s an Adelman guy, and I’d feel more comfortable with him at C than Randolph. Why not. Randolph needs to get up to at least 230-240 pounds before we consider him a legit option at C. Right now he’d get pushed around just as much as Ryan Hollins did.

by mak07 on Dec 1, 2011 4:22 PM CST reply actions  

No

but that’s cool. Makes me think that I’m inside Adelmans head. Wait…something’s coming in…must be from Rick…beef…stew…

So there you have it – the answer to all your Wolves related questions! ;)

by Dr. Wolfenstein on Dec 1, 2011 5:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I was looking at some Webster stats today

Last years numbers from 82games seems like he did much worse Net 48-Minute Production as a SG than at SF. I saw his 09-10 Portland numbers and he played almost strictly SF. Is there any indication he can play productively in the 2 spot?

by Waucckhewww on Dec 1, 2011 7:26 PM CST reply actions  

Everybody out of position (except Darko, Rubio & Ridnour)

We seem to always be trying to shoehorn someone into an awkward position. In misusing a player, we never see them reach their potential and maybe even effectively end their careers. The Wolves are in no way unique in doing this, but we’ve been on a roll for the past few years. I am not convinced that Cory Brewer or even (shudder) J Flynn don’t fall into this category. Of course, Randolph and Webster are on our team, in part, because their previous owners couldn’t get them to reach their potential.

I see Darko as our center. I don’t ever see Randolph being our center. I don’t think Love is large enough or has enough lift to play center consistently in the NBA. It’s funny how Pekovic has gone from being a brawny, Al Jefferson type (when he was still in Europe) to being a bit of an afterthought. It’s also funny how wedded our hopes were to Bismack Biyombo before we wound up with Derrick Williams. Seems Biyombo might have to remain overseas this year.

I like Tolliver, but he is over-appreciated here. Competent, but little more. Wellington may have topped out, but I know little about Malcolm Lee. Some scouts gave Lee a good shot. I think we should give him a good shot as well.

Folks seem anxious to get rid of Beasley (and I can understand a bit of that), but this is the NBA and somebody has to be able to get their own shot and score. And on our team, he is IT. All the other hypotheticals trotted out about different scoring patterns are exactly that, hypothetical. There is a reason Beasley was the #2 pick. Unless Williams is even better than Beasley, getting rid of him should be avoided.

There should be several ways to improve our shooting guard position. It could be Wes’ improvement. It could be an FA. It could be a trade. It could be Martell finally being healthy and breaking out. He was the player I most wanted to see get off to a quick start last year.

I think we should temper our Rubio expectations. He is still very young and we must be careful of our projections lest they have a negative effect on him and on us as fans. I don’t feel he can immediately become the straw that stirs the drink.

by ogishkemuncie on Dec 1, 2011 8:38 PM CST reply actions  

I like rolling with AR (if he's gained some weight) and Pek to back up C

Let’s face it we are best off starting 3 forwards and no C. Play Beas, Williams, and Love together in the 3-4-5. It not be great for D, who does a player like Roy HIbbert guard? We can draw any shotblocker out of the lane because all 3 of those guys need to be respected from 3. It will also clean out the lane for Rubio to drive and kick and for glorious back door cuts.

I'm Trill, I'm running w/ the WOLVES

by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Dec 1, 2011 11:52 PM CST reply actions  

Chuck Hayes?

Totally agree about Wes. Wes should be at his best playing next to Rubio. I don’t see the Chuck Hayes thing though. A 6-6 center, too many guys on this team already from the island of misfit toys. And too many PF/C’s.

then, if in your analysis, Darko plays solid D, wouldn’t it make more sense to just start Darko & save the salary cap money? Now that Rambis is gone I don’t think there is any requirement that they run the offense through Darko. Tell Darko that he is on the court to play defense & block a few shots. Instead of a Usg% around 19% it should be around 9%.

by rubiorube on Dec 2, 2011 10:59 AM CST reply actions  

If Darko

is willing to not shoot, then that might work.

Despite his size, Chuck Hayes is an established defensive presence at center. Adding him solves a Wolves problem and doesn’t create massive new ones, at least in my opinion. What is probably understated in my case above is that I think the biggest issue with Darko is his attitude/lack of aggressiveness. He’s too…Darko…for lack of a better way to put it. I just don’t see Darko as a key cog on a winning team if he doesn’t somehow rediscover his early aggressiveness and joy for the game. Chuck Hayes adds a mental toughness component to this team. I’m not saying that adding him solves everything, but I am saying that I believe the Wolves would do well to add and rely upon more mentally tough, aggressive, never give up players.

Also, I think Darko’s confidence and performance would be better utilized against second string players than starters.

by Dr. Wolfenstein on Dec 2, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

"He's too ... Darko"

Good assessment of Darko and I agree that he is not a key cog on a winning team. I just don’t think Hayes is either. Would rather see K Love at center when the matchup allows for an undersized Center.

by rubiorube on Dec 2, 2011 12:25 PM CST reply actions  

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