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The Suns plan on cutting Vince Carter when the lockout ends

Not that he would consider coming here.. but maybe? Does he fit in with us? Would he be the veteran presence we need to make an actual playoff push?

He would certainly make us even more exciting than we already probably are going to be.

Rubio/Ridnour

Carter/Johnson

Bealey/Williams

Love/Randolph

Milicic/Randolph/Pek

Definitely gives us depth and scoring punches at every position. Not to mention Wes is a career 6th man at most, we could use a vet SG like him.

Thoughts?



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This is an excellent plan.

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by Omaha Sun on Dec 4, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

If the wolves sign Vince Carter I’ll probably stop watching Basketball until he’s gone. I think I might put him up there with one of my least favorite players ever.

by gastrovan on Dec 4, 2011 6:15 PM CST reply actions  

He has mailed it in for years

Maybe Carter and T-Mac can reunite in Toronto and show Derozan how to be a one dimensional player and underachieve. Oh…wait…

Rubio + DWilliams + Adelman = suck it Clippergeddon

by nodnarb on Dec 4, 2011 6:25 PM CST reply actions  

My favorite Vince Carter Moment:

him talking about finally getting playoff experience beyond the first round, with the Magic for the first time.

Guy had been in the league for a decade, allegedly a top player, and had not seen serious playoff ball. One of the biggest subtractions by addition in the league.

by Tollysnipes on Dec 4, 2011 9:27 PM CST reply actions  

I'm not sure what that quote was...

but Vince had been to the second round of the playoffs multiple times, by the time he joined the Magic. In one of his better seasons (2000-01) they went seven games with the eventual finalist ’6ers, and Vince had a jumper that would have won the series at the buzzer, had it gone down. He averaged 28 a game with a 25 PER, that year.

He ruined his reputation for tanking his way out of Toronto and generally being a soft player in later seasons. But, he was pretty good for a while and has been on some competitive teams. For reasons unrelated to his basketball ability, I would not want him on this Wolves team.

by Andy G on Dec 4, 2011 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

HIS POINT

STILL STANDS!!!!!!

If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.

by PoorDick on Dec 5, 2011 8:23 AM CST up reply actions  

A washed-up former superstar who has a history of effort problems

and injury problems…just who you’d want to mentor a young team!

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by TimAllen on Dec 4, 2011 9:34 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

I think he's taking a nap.

Half-assing it is hard work.

"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope

by Cynical Jason on Dec 5, 2011 5:44 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Where are we at on the whole

“put him to sleep on his back/stomach” thing? Because if he sleeps on his stomach, he might suff . . . nevermind, let him sleep on his stomach.

If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.

by PoorDick on Dec 5, 2011 9:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Nice.

"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope

by Cynical Jason on Dec 5, 2011 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Well thats the general consensus then!

And thats fine, he’s a total complete 100% upgrade over what we have, but I can completely understand why you’d want to stray from him.

That said his numbers from last year even with missed games are better than anything we had from the 2 spot.

On to the next option then!

by WildWolves on Dec 4, 2011 9:43 PM CST reply actions  

Vince on the Wolves? Great idea!

I mean, that strategy worked so well with the Vikes and McNabb…%

"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."
— Hunter S. Thompson

by SoDakHmr on Dec 4, 2011 9:45 PM CST reply actions  

Wild, listen to your brethren here.

You definitely do not want Carter. We are talking about the man who sparked the founding of the CTLVCOF (Coalition to Light Vince Carter on Fire) at BSotS. He doesn’t care about basketball.

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by Omaha Sun on Dec 4, 2011 10:33 PM CST reply actions  

The Wolves probably had the worst sg rotation in the NBA last season.

Yet, I would rather roll those same guys out, with the addition of Lee, then sign VC for any amount of anything.

by Magoo12218 on Dec 4, 2011 10:39 PM CST reply actions  

I'd take him on a cheap one-year deal.

I don’t see how it could hurt as much as everyone seems to be implying it would. He’s an upgrade over what we have at that position.

by LoveTo on Dec 5, 2011 12:28 AM CST reply actions  

There's no doubt that any team would rather have Grant Hill mentoring its group of young players, for sure.

But I’m immediately suspicious of the chorus of agreement here. Carter is a mediocrity now, for sure. I’d rather have many other players. As a part-timer, though? A motivated guy, if we thought he could be one?

I’d think the risk would be more his trying to be “the man” and forcing everything.

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by feral on Dec 5, 2011 8:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Vince Carter

Seems like the ultimate “averages 21.5 ppg on a 28 win team and all his teammates all hate playing with him” kinda guy. No thanks.

by JopeX37 on Dec 5, 2011 10:34 AM CST reply actions  

No kidding.

We’ve already got Beasley to fill that role.

If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.

by PoorDick on Dec 5, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Beasley seems far more likeable

even if he never jumps over a 7 footer. But, I guess I’ve never met any of these guys, so maybe everyone loves playing with “vinsanity.”

by aarendsvark on Dec 5, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I like what I know about Beasley

in that he’s kind of goofy, and different. But playing with him (brainless moves, pass-last, below-average D) would probably not be that enjoyable.

If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.

by PoorDick on Dec 5, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Beasley's silliness and size and athleticism

all lead him to not be a coachable player. I don’t think we criticize Beasley’s effort on defense just his defensive discipline. I hope Adelman and the potential to play big minutes on a growing team, might encourage Beasley to be more coachable and use his above average athleticism and size to better his, I would say, average defense.

by Michael C. Boosalis II on Dec 5, 2011 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Defense

is the overwhelming concern with Beasley.

by Andy G on Dec 5, 2011 5:14 PM CST up reply actions  

He's also just plain lackadaisical with various ball handling skills.

Discipline is the thing.

I’m excited to see if his new dedication to training pays off. If Michael Beasley cuts back on the Skittles, how does that look?

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by feral on Dec 5, 2011 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Like

a contract year?

If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.

by PoorDick on Dec 6, 2011 7:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Good point.

If Beas’ new-found work ethic leads to noticeable improvement, the contract-year question will loom over the RFA discussions. I guess that’s a problem I’d like the Wolves to have. There’s just as good a chance he doesn’t improve or that he’s traded for empty space in the coming days.

by Andy G on Dec 6, 2011 7:52 AM CST up reply actions  

When Kandi was signed by the Wolves

I perused a few Clippers boards and was astounded by their disdain for him and happiness over his departure.

Same for Marko Jaric.

Same for Mike James.

If you read a Toronto, or Orlando, and Phoenix board, you will see much the same re: Wince.

I would tend to trust home town fans in this regard. If they loathe a player they’ve watched for 82 games, there is likely a reason.

"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra

by Wile E Coyote on Dec 5, 2011 5:08 PM CST reply actions  

All my money has Vince going to

Boston or Miami for a one year deal.

He would refuse to come here and I don’t see the Wolves brass wanting him either.

by Doug West Domination!!! on Dec 5, 2011 8:22 PM CST reply actions  

Theres nothing in his stats showing he is washed up

His injuries have effected him bad, but c’mon, he’s hardly washed up. If he can stay healthy he’s a low risk for any ream.. he’ll bring you scoring, he doesn’t turn it over that often, and I really think his last year in Phoenix made him see that this isn’t going to be forever.

Perhaps he goes to Miami, perhaps he goes to Boston.. hell, maybe he goes to the Blazers who knows. I don’t see much risk in a vet min. contract for a 15+ppg instant offense.

by WildWolves on Dec 5, 2011 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

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