NBA reopening open thread
by deus04 on Dec 9, 2011 2:40 PM CST
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PrintI was thinking that with all the attention given to the CP3 fiasco (with good reason), a lot of other transactions haven't been covered by ESPN, etc. So this is an attempt to pool the notable (and not so notable) signings, trades, amnesties, etc from the first day of business. What I've found so far follows the jump:
(EDITED)
Amnesty cuts:
Arenas (Magic)
Billups (Knicks)
Waived / Bought out:
Rip Hamilton (Pistons)
Trades:
Bass to Celtics, Big Baby to Magic
Pietrus to Raptors, 2nd rounder (or just trade exception?) to Suns Trade called off, Pietrus failed physical
Chandler sign-and-trade to Knicks (4 yr, 58 M), Turiaf to Wizards, 2nd rounder, Rautins, and a giant trade exception to Dallas
Dooling and 2nd round pick to Celtics, something called Albert Miralles to Bucks
Odom to Mavs, trade exception to Lakers
Signings:
Chuck Hayes to Kings (sadface...4 yr, 21.3M)
Marcus Thornton resigns with Kings (5 yr, 40M)
Caron Butler to Clips (3 yr, 24M)
Shannon Brown to Suns
Grant Hill resigns with Suns (1 yr, 6.5M)
Telfair to Suns
James Jones resigns with Heat
Curry to Heat
Mbah a Moute resigns with Bucks (4 yr, 19M)
Dunleavy, Jr to Bucks
Bibby to Knicks
West to Pacers
Young resigns with 76ers
Hawes resigns with 76ers
Pargo to Grizzlies
Radmanovic to Hawks
T-Mac to Hawks
Daniels, Wilcox, and Steimsma to Celtics
Jeff Green resigns with Celtics (1yr, 9M)
Von Wafer to Magic
Rasual Butler to Raptors
Magliore to Raptors
Vince Carter to Mavs
Brendan Wright to Mavs
Tinsley to Jazz
Prince resigns with Pistons (4 yr, 27M)
D Cook resigns with Thunder (2 yr, 6.5M)
Oden resigns with Blazers (qualifying offer, renegotiated due to injury setback)
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First thoughts after looking through that list...
Too bad about Hayes, but if the Clips are going to have Butler soak up cap space, maybe we can make a move on Jordan after all…
Suns make no sense as always, shedding a usable piece (Pietrus) despite keeping Hill. But with him and Vince gone, maybe now they make a move to add a piece…
It’ll be fascinating to see if Chandler’s D can mask Amare’s lack thereof nearly as well as he could for Dirk. I know everyone’s going to talk now about Amare for CP3, but I’d be inclined to give the Melo/Amare/Chandler frontcourt a chance…
With the injury update re: Webster, I’d be shocked if he isn’t amnestied now…
Am I the only one
that is alarmed by using the word “piece” for actual human beings? I understand it’s a business but it just rubs me the wrong way.
only meant it as "piece of the puzzle" etc, not trying to be objectifying here
But if you’re really bothered, in the future I’ll try to stick to “Wonderful Human Being Who Is Exceedingly Valuable For Many Reasons, Only Some Of Which Happen To Pertain To His Skills On A Basketball Court.” Or a WHBWIEVFMR,OSOWHTPTHSOABC for short.
by deus04 on Dec 9, 2011 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Yes
Am I the only one that is alarmed by using the word "piece" for actual human beings? I understand it’s a business but it just rubs me the wrong way.
Wildly Oversensitive doesn’t begin to describe your post.
I'm a very tough guy on the internet
by Son of Gerald Green on Dec 9, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
Webster's contract only has this year, with a team option on next.
Darko, meanwhile, has three more full seasons of money left.
"Opinion ...a confession."
I thought it was two more years of Darko with a team option for year 3?
I’d prefer two years of a potentially useful Darko to one year of Webster in a suit. And yes, by using the phrase “potentially useful Darko,” I should probably forfeit all posting rights for a week or something. Referring just to his ability to block some shots and play D on Timmy D, etc.
Unless you have a significant signing that's tangible, immediately available, and contingent on Webster's extra money,
I just don’t think you use your amnesty to gain $5 million for a single season.
"Opinion ...a confession."
Even at that
If by some miracle we can sign DJ…Isn’t Darko or Pek still the amnesty? Aren’t they both 4-5 million a year? and they play the position DJ plays
Yah but...
I’m guessing Pek may be headed to Houston for a couple of 2nd rounders.
Actually better than amnesty, am I wrong?
as humdinger suggested elsewhere,
Pek + Beas + ellington for martin !
If they can take on 3 roster spots, it would be a nice win for us
I have faith in beas and pek improving, but it is certainly true that we need to consolidate assets a bit
Dammit!
You people need to stop trying to trade Pek!
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Dec 9, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
My understanding is that it is a use it or lose it
proposition. It has to be used on an existing contract. Except for those who think it should be used on Darko, it doesn’t do much for the Wolves. This should be named the Arenas rule.
As for the new “piece” movement, just about every player discussed here for center and SG is gone except Jordan, and he is Randolph in disguise. I guess Adelman believes he has what he needs?
your understandig is wrong
you get to use it later on if you want to
by Wim (Belgium) on Dec 10, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
I think his understanding is right
You can use it any year, but only on a contract signed during the previous CBA—in other words on an existing contract.
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Dec 10, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
Missed the Bass Big Baby deal.
Nice move for Boston, talent wise. What provokes Orlando to actively seek out Glen Davis at this moment? They’re not shedding salary in this way, and Bass is basically just better.
"Opinion ...a confession."
Howard has requested him.
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Dec 9, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
Howard personally met with ownership in Boston to carry out the trade.
He’s doing a tour.
"Opinion ...a confession."
by feral on Dec 9, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The implication of that is
that Howard isn’t making a move this season. Maybe the cancelled LA Paul trade sealed the deal for Dwight, at least for this year.
Oh, I agree
Bass is tenacious. Great work ethic and he can hit some mid-range shots.
Dingus Kahn, it's over
And he makes big baby faces
when he gets schooled by K Love.
We have a coach with uptempo in his DNA.
Glen Davis’ shitty defense won’t affect Orlando’s team defense with Howard in the middle. Glen Davis’ 20’ jump shot will help give Howard some space on offense as compared to Brandon Bass.
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
If we assume equal value for the two players, then sure I can see the outlines of a transaction.
I just don’t see Big Baby as being worth as much as Bass. And Glen Davis is also a potential head case.
"Opinion ...a confession."
I agree regarding value
But sometimes fit concerns outweighs value. On the surface, you’re are correct, Bass is the better player. My fit hypothesis isn’t rooted in anything but watching Bass and Baby play a few times, not even sure if that’s a correct evaluation of Bass on offense.
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
(I checked 82games when you said it, but the "jumper" category being basically the same for the two of them
doesn’t tell us spots on the floor. (Shrug.)
"Opinion ...a confession."
That is when...
you go to Hoopdata. Bass is better 10-15 and much better 16-23.
by vjl110 on Dec 9, 2011 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
As opposed to Bass' 17ft range?
Bass is the better player.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Dec 9, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
Never said he wasn’t
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
But Glen Davis played for the storied Celtics!
I’ll bet people who barely follow basketball don’t even know who Bass is.
This is a pretty weird small trade for the Magic. Bass seems like a far better player than Davis, except perhaps in terms of how big of a screen he’s capable of setting.
Exactly. Whatever's motivating them, it just looks like a bad deal. Doesn't work for the money side, either.
"Opinion ...a confession."
this shouldnt happen for basketball reasons
especially if these teams share tv revenue. and yes, im bitter much.
I prefer this update
another source too is
http://www.nba.com/freeagents/2011/
But this one is better IMO.
Nice job!
Dingus Kahn, it's over
Earl Watson to the Jazz, Sebastian Telfair to the Suns
Glad we aren’t looking for a PG in Free Agency
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Source: Knicks, Wolves both in strong pursuit of J.J. Barea, who feels “betrayed” that Mavs only offered 1 yr deal. Check Hang Time blog.
Why?
As in, why would the Wolves sign him?
Is Luke on the block?
He could have a similar role to what he had in Dallas
i.e. playing a fair bit of off-guard next to Kidd(Rubio). But he’s way too short to be a fulltime SG. He definitely had his moments last postseason, but that just means he’s about to get overpaid…hopefully not by us…
I suppose Kahn did say
that he only wanted to make small adjustments to the roster.
by quessa on Dec 10, 2011 5:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Barea played in the most used 5-man unit for Dallas last season
along with Jason Terry. I think you would see him a lot with Rubio. A better option than Wes Johnson, I suspect.
Anyway, I don’t expect him to get huge money; I believe the best the Knicks could do is 2yrs/$5 million. I’m sure he’d prefer the Knicks, but the Wolves can beat that offer financially.
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Dec 10, 2011 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds almost as if Berea would play the role
Kahn thought Flynn would play.
You've given me nightmares
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Dec 10, 2011 6:08 PM CST up reply actions
Ha. How's his smile? Firm handshake?
Actually, i already do like Barea. I like him quite a bit; this is not a bad low cost option for the backcourt. In the absence of a big move for someone like Kevin Martin, Barea is a good choice.
He really can cause havoc, penetrate to score or find people.
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Dec 10, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
I agree that he's a better option than many others...
… but I worry about opportunity costs associated with a move like this. I guess that’s all, really. He’s great on a tiny contract, not so great if it makes adding a real, live SG even harder than it already is. I’d enjoy watching him, I guess, and he’d help.
Twitter says deal being finalised. 4 years.
Live And Stupid From England
by JonesTheCat on Dec 12, 2011 8:01 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt on personnel moves this offseason
on the premise that Adelman is behind them. Barea fits one of our two gaping needs from a functional standpoint if not a positional one. He’s also proven to have a few productive NBA skills.
Are we assembling team Revenge-On-Bynum-For-Brutal-Assault or something?
Joking aside, I like Barea, let’s do it.
And I just rewatched the Beasley and Barea fouls. Disgraceful.
Live And Stupid From England
Now they can Amnesty Charlie V
although, if they amnesty Ben Gordon, he’d definitely be a guy I’d submit a waiver claim on for the Wolves.
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
I bet he ends up in Boston
But I wouldn’t mind the wolves inquiring about this particular veteran SG.
Rubio + DWilliams + Adelman = suck it Clippergeddon
If he is just bought out
Does that mean we can sign him for whatever? He is the player that I would love Wes to learn from.
"Blue"
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Dec 10, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
He's going to sign with the Bulls
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Dec 10, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
Now keep an eye on Jeff Green and we've got an idea on Beasley's value
600 N First Ave "like a Pirate's cove".
Of those three guys, Thaddeus is clearly the one ticking up the last two years.
Green has if anything trended down even before the trade. How much has Beasley’s worth changed since the deal from the HEAT?
"Opinion ...a confession."
I think you get him on a team with a good point guard and let him play the 4
I think he’s been on questionable at best teams for him his whole career. The Celtics post big three I think could be a nice place for him playing with Rondo.
Beasley can absolutely score, he can absolutely create his own shot…sometimes both him being able to score and create his own shot don’t happen on the same possession, however.
He’s a volume scorer…but there is a place for that in the NBA. I think the Celtics could use him. I think he’d give them a lot for this season as they really do need a gunner to play when Pierce is on the bench. Bucks I think would benefit from him, Nuggets.
He’s a tough player to have admittedly, because he kind of needs the offense to be built through him but I don’t think anyone trusts him enough to do that. Whether it’s professionally or personally he hasn’t earned that trust. He’s a catch-22 at this point, but I look at a team like Milwaukee that has some solid role players and plays solid defense, or Charlotte or Denver and I think those are the places for him to go.
I'd be surprised if the Bulls don't try for him. He'd be a perfect fit there.
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(Which would mean Chicago let Ben Gordon go to Detroit and got Rip back in his stead a while later.)
Given the two contracts as of the start of this season, I’d say the Bulls win that.
"Opinion ...a confession."
Why?
(Just wondering).
For a formerly very-good player, he sure acted like a clown during the Kuester era in Detroit (I am not putting all of the blame on him—even remotely—for that morass, btu still). Too old and will likely be too spendy for us, not to mention being a locker room concern.
Beasley for Hamilton I'd do
I don’t mind Hamilton at all for this team. I don’t wanna give him a tons of money or trade too much for him, but I actually think he’d be a pretty interesting pick up
Didn't know that. Let's pursue him.
What’s he gonna go for?.
I’m actually pretty on board with Rip the more I think about it.
Here's my question:
does Gilbert Arenas get signed by a team? If so, who is going to take a flyer on him?
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The Lakers or Boston would be my guess
They can afford to take a chance. Obviously, it depends on his health…
Rubio + DWilliams + Adelman = suck it Clippergeddon
My dream is that Boston signs both Arenas and Vince Carter
That would be the most interesting team to follow
It would be such a nuts team...
It sounds so stupid to say this but I don’t think it would hurt the Celtics to have a couple guys who have no fear to shoot on their team.
C'mon, Golden State!
Curry, Monta, Arenas (who originally broke in there). Something about Ricky Davis and “cockroaches” comes to mind.
"Opinion ...a confession."
wolves?
if we bid $1-2 million per season, isn’t he worth that? Is there any likely amnestied players that you would put a bid on? Wouldn’t picking up players on the cheap this way be the best use of our cap space if we’re not getting any of the restricted FAs?
It feels like Chauncey Billups has spent his whole career being moved around
I wouldn’t be surprised if the rumour he’ll retire if waived is true.
All I want is floppy hair and alley-oops
I think he could still contribute in a Sam Cassell-in-Boston way to a contender.
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I'm sure he could, it's whether he wants to
Although come to think of it, he might be quite a nice fit in Boston himself. They need a back-up guard, and I imagine he knows the veteran core really well. I can see that happening.
All I want is floppy hair and alley-oops
His story is plenty odd.
He was drafted by Boston under Pitino, and Denver – a pick later – was ticked to miss on the home town kid. Shortly after that the Nuggets traded for him. He languished. Signed here, started to figure things out. Signed in Detroit, emerged, and had the heart of his career. Got dealt for Iverson – back to Denver for stop number two. Went to the Knicks as a bit part in the ’Melo deal.
Returning to Boston at this point would sort of complete the arc.
"Opinion ...a confession."
It's weird, right?
It’s not as if he’s a bad locker room influence, and he certainly isn’t a poor player.
All I want is floppy hair and alley-oops
Not that weird
The man is still worth a couple million dollars… and of course, money is what makes the world go round.
That and conservation of angular momentum.
"Opinion ...a confession."
by feral on Dec 9, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Really love makes the world go 'round.
Happily, though, having money makes people love you.
"Opinion ...a confession."
He can guard a lot of SGs as well
I think he would b a great fit there
Rubio + DWilliams + Adelman = suck it Clippergeddon
Greg Oden
Who agreed to the Blazers’ QO, is now taking less money on a 1 year deal because he has had…wait for it…wait for it….
another setback in his rehab and the Blazers are unsure if he’ll play this year.
Bad day for the Blazers, not that one could really expect anything from Oden at this point, but it’s just more bad news.
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
As a wise man recently tweeted . . .
WoW
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Dec 9, 2011 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
I mostly posted that for AndyG, who has made more pleas for the Wolves to acquire Oden
than the number of games Oden has actually played in the NBA.
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Dec 9, 2011 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
I'm honestly shocked
at how bad the Blazers’ luck is the last couple years. The Wolves’ problems are half incompetence and half draft luck. The Blazers—I don’t see much there that’s self-inflicted.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Dec 9, 2011 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
Tragic and wrong
This sort of thing should happen to the Heat or the next evil empire team, in a karmic sense.
We have a coach with uptempo in his DNA.
Part of it's luck, part of it was a management decision
Both Roy and Oden had knee issues entering the league. Their FO decided to take a chance on both of them.
(Well, firing Pritchard was self-inflicted.)
Big a jerk as he may have been, the guy was on the plus side a lot.
But then, apparently one of the reasons for the firing was Roy’s contract, which didn’t have the knee insurance. Or something….
"Opinion ...a confession."
And put Bowie and Walton on the coaching staff.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Dec 9, 2011 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
It's not done yet.
jwquick Jason Quick
Breaking: LaMarcus Aldridge will miss at least a week after heart test reveals another episode of Wolf-Parkinson-White syndrome
WpW.
If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.
by PoorDick on Dec 9, 2011 9:54 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Awesome.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Dec 9, 2011 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
Way to go sacramento
Hayes and thornton..
They are a good team for the wolves to try to keep up with this year
by zero_on_up on Dec 9, 2011 9:40 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
40 Million
for Marcus Thornton?
Good thing we had that lockout, eh.
I think this is the first time in history one man managed to destroy an entire city by himself. Even the Enola Gay had a flight crew.
Thornton should be a "Moneyball" type of player to pick up. Only he's not a bargain. Yikes.
"Opinion ...a confession."
No kidding.
I hardly recognize this new, improved, cost-efficient NBA.
If they never play NBA basketball again, then I'll never watch it again.
David West to the Celtics. Wow.
Where are you now, Dan Gilbert? We need you!
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So now that's KG, West, and Bass at PF
Cant fault them for loading up on bodies at that position though. KG will have to really cut down his minutes this year or else just have scheduled days off (and likely on a weekly basis). Really hope this schedule doesn’t break him.
by deus04 on Dec 10, 2011 1:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Stop the madness!
The superteams are killing us!
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Dec 9, 2011 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like it's Vince to Dallas
Not sure what to make of that. Is he really any better than Rudy Goggles at this point? I’m starting to feel really bad for Dirk. As bad as you can for a defending champ, anyway.
by deus04 on Dec 10, 2011 1:07 AM CST via mobile reply actions
We need Corey back
Even if he barely plays. He can be a mascot.
All I want is floppy hair and alley-oops
Also, we can now refer to him as
Corey “More Rings Than LeBron” Brewer. Everyone needs their own stick to bash the Heat with.
All I want is floppy hair and alley-oops
by Malastare on Dec 10, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I was going to make the same point, but
didn’t Darko auction his ring? So, he doesn’t actually have more than LeBron. Instead, he’s Darko “Had More Rings than LeBron” Milicic.
For some reason I’m imagining Darko as Frodo, LeBron as Gollum, and Darko’s auction as Mount Doom.
I need more sleep.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Dec 12, 2011 6:42 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, and I'll update the OP with new transactions soon
Had meant to do that throughout the day and ended up stranded from the computer.
by deus04 on Dec 10, 2011 1:09 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Von Wafer to Magic
Another guy we’d apparently been looking at…
by deus04 on Dec 10, 2011 1:39 AM CST via mobile reply actions
3 Team Deal sending Chris Paul to LA resubmitted with changes to the league
Changes not immediately known…
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
My guess
Is lakers take back more $$$, likely Ariza, maybe Okafor.
Derrick Williams was going to Bust...but then he was selected by the Timberwolves!
Okafor is worth his contract
and could provide some needed depth in the frontcourt.
$19 mil over 4 for Prince Luc Richard Bob Mbah a Moute
That seems like a little much, doesn’t it?
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I am glad to see that owners are now...
…being responsible after getting the new CBA. Nice to hear they ain’t broke now more.
Not to me
That’s a good deal for him. He’s a good player. Really defends.
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Dec 10, 2011 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
I never thought I'd see the day
When I was feeling sorry for how the League was screwing over the Lakers.
"Vote Ailuridae for Wolves GM"
Mbah a Moute
Great Defender- Horrible Offensive Player. He could probably start for a team at the 3 next to a Great Wing Player. He’s the type of the guy that on a really good team should be the 5th Best Starter (Is this worth 19 Million probably).
"Vote Ailuridae for Wolves GM"
I will be pissed
If the league blocks a trade that would have decimated the Lakers Front-Court and eliminated the possibility of acquring Dwight Howard (Assuming a Young Injury Prone Big in Bynum doesn’t pull it off). Only to turn around and have them assume a competent Emeka Okafor’s contract because Dan Gilbert was whining about not receiving the Lakers Luxury Tax Payments.
"Vote Ailuridae for Wolves GM"
by Jose Cordoba on Dec 10, 2011 12:51 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
just remember.....
….stern did this without input from the owners. that would be collusion. nothing to see here, move along, enjoy this cookie.
This and this again
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Dec 10, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
Just for the heck of it...
IF the Pups were to pick him up on waivers and then trade him to a contender, would NY still be on the hook for the rest of his salary?? Seems that if you could convince Billups that this would work, it’d be a win-win for everybody (except Dolan and the Knicks, which is a win-win for the rest of us! lol).
"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."
— Hunter S. Thompson
Smallest contract offered from a contender.
Make NYK pick up as big a tab as possible.
Or
Gilbert will claim him anyway to prove a point.
Good man
Those guys are a bunch of d-bags :).
And do you mean he is going to Dallas? Are they under the cap with that Chandler trade?
i may have misheard the radio while cleaning the basement
i thiught i heard him mentioned in a dallas deal.
Bibby to Knicks
In related news, Knicks are in the market for a starting PG. Sounds like they’re trying to see if there’s any possible way to get Barea.
Just read the list of participants in Denver's first day of camp
Two point guards, three centers, plus Gallinari and Harrington. Poor bastards.
It’s a shame Milwaukee matched their offer for Mbah a Moute. Unless it’s a sign-and-trade situation where we’re hooking Denver up with warm bodies (e.g. Beasley, Ellington, and Hayward?), I think the Afflalo dream is just about over.
I saw on the twitterverse that the wolves brought Bonzi Wells to camp
I didn’t see it anywhere else yet, so I thought I’d share. Apparently he was in Houston during Adelman’s first year.
Rubio + DWilliams + Adelman = suck it Clippergeddon
Between him and Barea, the Wolves are sort of fishing for warm bodies at SG right now.
Bonzi’s past it, he’d be a Sasha Pavlovic-level addition at the very most. We’re turning over stones.
"Opinion ...a confession."
Wells is, one hopes, merely training camp fodder
Barea can actually play. I would be pleased if something came of that. I wonder how hard they are looking to make a trade for someone. If they wind up signing Barea, they are going to have to thin out the roster somehow, I think, even with Webster’s injury.
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Dec 10, 2011 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
It appears that DHoward would like to go the Nyets
Allegedly, the Nyets are looking for picks in exchange for removing ~$5million in salary so they can give Lopez and picks straight up for Howard and Turkeyglue. I’m wondering if we could put together a package for Marshon Brooks or Anthony Morrow (or both). Or, perhaps we could get Redick? He isn’t THE answer, but he’s a vet who works hard and has much improved defense. Would we have anything Orlando wants? There has to be a way for the Wolves to get in on this and swap out a big for a 2G (IMHO).
Rubio + DWilliams + Adelman = suck it Clippergeddon
For example
I’m assuming Orlando wants Marshon Brooks…so this might be an option. Then again, rumor mill has it that they re-upped with Jason Richardson. If that is the case…
the sun just might be shining on a wolves ass…perhaps this would fly.
Beasley would fill a need for them (if he were to play PF) and he is an expiring…so they have a contract year to decide if they want him.
Just thinking out loud here. The Adelmans have me all…optimistic, to say the least.
Rubio + DWilliams + Adelman = suck it Clippergeddon
Warriors to sign DeAndre Jordan to a 4-year, $40 million offer sheet
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So do the Clippers match in 1.3 seconds or 1.5?
I’d assumed someone was going to drive the price up a little higher than that…this actually feels about right for him, to be honest.
Probably closer to 8M I guess, but I thought he'd get silly money from a desperate team
I mean, Jeff freaking Green just got 9M (not taking into account the tax implications). One year deal, but still.
Not in a vaccum
(or in a Wolves uniform) but maybe he is with the Clippers if it goes a long way in retaining Blake Griffin for the next decade. And speaking of Blake Griffin, he’s the type of offensive horse that can make up for a total lack of polish from the center next to him. I don’t think the Wolves would have such an easy time with a center like DeAndre. I liked him better for us when we had Big Al.
Seeing Knicks now chasing Jamal Crawford
So are they conceding Barea to us already?
I hope Stern suspends Chauncey big time.
His stance is completely negative for the business. If a couple teams enter a bidding war following the amnesty system NYK could save about 3 or even 4 millions, easily. So, the guy rants and make them lose about a coupe million dollars, frightening the possible suitors with a circumvention of the current CBA.
Least pro ever. Suspend him hard. In fact, if I´m the Knicks, he would be sued yesterday.
Yeah, that is out of bounds and
I would have thought out of character, since I had thought Billips was one of the grownups in the NBA. He must really be ticked about how he’s been shuffled from team to team, like an end of the bench guy.
Hasheem Thabeet amnestied by the Rockets?
still looking for a link.
I think this is the first time in history one man managed to destroy an entire city by himself. Even the Enola Gay had a flight crew.
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