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2011 Draft

With the wolves likely ending up with another top 5 pick I thought it would be a good idea to start exploring our potential additions.


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My big board...

#1. Perry Jones.  Watching some Baylor games this year, I LOVE this kid, 6'11", with great handles, can play the 3,4, or if he bulked up even the 5.  The NBA comparision is Tracy Mcgrady.  The game against Texas A&M last night he pulled down a board went coast to coast for the lay up.  Call me crazy but if we get a chance at him I would trade love in an instant.   His best position is SF, where he can step out and hit shots, or take his guy off the dribble. Can you imagine, Darko, Jones, and Randolph at the 3,4,5, they are all over 6'10", talk about a mismatch.

#2. Terrance Jones.  He is the freshman phenom from Kentucky this year.  In the mold of Lamar Odom, standing 6'9" he can play both down low and the perimiter.  Drafting him would also neccesitate moving Love and sliding Beasley over to the PF.

#3. Harrison Barnes. Smooth shooting, more athletic Wes?

#4.Kyrie Irving. Smooth guard.

#5. Jared Sullinger. Beast.

I think anyone of these guys could really help our team out.  What do you all say?

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That Jones/Randolph/ Darko lineup would be scary good in 2k11. And if you’re trading Love I would sure hope you get a C better than Darko back.

by twolf1 on Feb 27, 2011 2:43 PM CST reply actions  

I agree.

For Love it would be good to get someone like Brook Lopez, or dare I say Demarcus Cousins? Maybe Love and Flynn for Cousins? Or what are your ideas?

by Dred on Feb 27, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Didn't really have a name in mind

Bogut maybe? Haven’t really thought about it.

by twolf1 on Feb 27, 2011 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Love and Flynn for Cousins.....

Never in a million years. I wouldn’t do that. Why can’t Love and either Jones play together. Love can play C against 3/4 of the teams. See: Chuck Hayes 6’6"

by RB10 on Feb 27, 2011 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

no way

Love is an All-Star, Cousins is a head case who we just passed on

JonnyRotten Flynn, that is

by JonnyRotten on Feb 28, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree that we need a long term center.

It is clear that Darko would be an excellent back up center, but to compete with the best of the best you need a legit center. If we could trade for a younger center a la Cousins or Lopez for Love I think you have to do it. A franchise center with a pass first guard and a high voluming scoring PF/SF and SG is what can make that happen. If Rubio is ok and does come we have our PG. Wes/Ellington can score a decent clip and Beasly can score the rock, adding a Perry Jones to score another 20 a game, and an elite shot blocking center who can score at least 15 a game i think we can be back in the hunt.

by Dred on Feb 27, 2011 3:11 PM CST reply actions  

No to trading Love...

unless he requests out like Melo and we have to trade him. If he will stay, we need to keep him. I am tired of going for potential when we have a legit great player now. Love for Howard, CP3, or Lebron-sure (which will never happen I realize). It’s quite likely none of the guys in the draft this year will be as good as Love.

Timberwolves' record: Undefeated (5-11, if you go by so-called "Advanced Stats")

by Wolf21 on Feb 27, 2011 3:29 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

What if he doesn't request out but doesn't sign?

I.e. what if he pulls a Lebron?

I say if you get a trade you can’t turn down you do it, but don’t just trade him to trade him

by Wolvesguy on Mar 2, 2011 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Love is going to leave.

He misses Cali and we wont give him a max deal, he is as good as gone so why not get value for him. If you saw this kid Perry kid play, he is special, he can do it all.

by Dred on Feb 27, 2011 3:32 PM CST reply actions  

The guy is 12% on threes

And 65% from the free throw line.

At 6’11 and crazy athletic, the guy averages under 1 block per game and 7 rebounds.

I like the guy, but he’s being a tad bit hype right now. Sadly, he’s barely deemed the best player on his team. I know he is, but LaceDarius Dunn and Quincy Acy tend to ignore him. There are a couple of other comparable 6’11 SF’s. See: Rashard Lewis, Austin Daye, Donte Greene

My point? He’s not “elite” or “unseen” in his athleticism:size:scoring/shooting ratio. He’s very talented, top pick worthy, but not Kevin Love worthy. Not even close.

by RB10 on Feb 27, 2011 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I've seen him play...

Tyrus Thomas was better in college… They’re comparable players. No thanks

by mak07 on Feb 27, 2011 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Other guys for our other 1st's

Jajuan Johnson, Alec Burks, Jimmer, Demetri McCamey, Scotty Hopson (trade down). I don’t watch enough college ball to give a good scouting report about any of them, except that Scotty Hopson has sweet hair.

by twolf1 on Feb 27, 2011 3:40 PM CST reply actions  

Love his hair.

Pretty good a B-Ball too.

by Dred on Feb 27, 2011 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Scotty Hopson is Rashad McCants all over again

I love Shoddy, but for you all, I know you don’t want another Rashad. Jimmer, definitely worth a mid first, Grizzlies pick, look.

by RB10 on Feb 27, 2011 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

The Problem with this draft

is not just that it is a weak overall draft, but the strenghts of it appear to be all at either the PF and PG position. two areas where we really shouldn’t be drafting.

Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?

by the Real Thor on Feb 27, 2011 4:25 PM CST reply actions  

Irving or bust, IMO.

by jianfu on Feb 27, 2011 6:39 PM CST reply actions  

Because of that injury, he doesn’t have enough of a track record to make me THAT confident…. but yeah, I think he looks like the complete package, and exactly what they need.

My dream offseason would probably be win the lotto and draft Irving; move the Mem and Utah picks for a couple recent 2nd rounders making good and due for a raise in Chris Douglas-Roberts and DeAndre Jordan; and flip Rubio for something exciting on the wing.

by jianfu on Feb 27, 2011 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

If we don’t land Irving, I would just prefer we trade the pick for a good vet and then go do the same with our other picks.

by Rascal Flatts on Feb 27, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I see no problem with drafting a point guard.

Rubio or not, right now our best point guard is Ridnour who is a decent backup but Flynn and Bassy just don’t do it. Irving and Rubio might be just the ticket. Go with the best player. I like Burks and think Barnes might just be getting there too. If perry jones can play center than yeah.

by mr.sorbet on Feb 27, 2011 8:21 PM CST reply actions  

Irving... yes.

Id also be willing to add Jimmer in mid round… But what about possibly offering a sign and trade of Memphis pick and filler for Greg Oden? Adding Irving, Rubio(?) and Oden would be game changing.. and Oden’s minutes could be limited to keep him healthy and would move Darko to a backup slot, where his defense would be much more valued.

Id take a roster of:
Pg Irving, Rubio/Ridnour
Sg Wes, Webster, Ellington
Sf Beas, Webster
Pf Love, Beas, Randolf, Tolliver
C Oden, Darko, Tolliver/Randolf

with some filler, this could be a LARGE step forward. And Flynn, Tolliver/Randolf and/or Memphis pick would be tempting for Portland to take in an Oden sign and trade.

by Patsfanatic83 on Feb 27, 2011 11:17 PM CST reply actions  

With Oden being a FA this summer

We could just offer him a tempting offer sheet and make Portland match. If they match, we know the asking price, but also, the draft will be done, so we’d need to talk with them before the draft. Randolph/Tolliver + Flynn + Memphis pick is too much IMO

by RB10 on Feb 28, 2011 1:09 AM CST reply actions  

I was commenting on 2 out of 3 lol

And/or is a miraculous thing =P So Flynn plus memphis, or flynn and one of randolph or tolliver, etc.

by Patsfanatic83 on Feb 28, 2011 8:50 AM CST up reply actions  

How I see it

Irving

Jones
Barnes

Jonas
Kanter
Burks

2011 Draft Targets: H. Barnes, K. Irving, P. Jones, Jonas V.
Fire Kahn!

by John Wall on Feb 28, 2011 6:52 AM CST reply actions  

Close to mine

Irving

Jones

Barnes
Burks

Jonas
Kanter
Sullinger

by zebano on Feb 28, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

me too

i would be in favor of using our memphis or utah pick on jimmer

JonnyRotten Flynn, that is

by JonnyRotten on Feb 28, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

My take...

Jones, Jones, Barnes, Irving, Sullinger
These are the guys you mentioned. I need to see more out of Perry Jones. Really. Terrence Jones is Beasley, so probably a no. I like Barnes but he is a SF. We already have Beas and Wes as SF’s (I think Wes is a SF). If Barnes was head and shoulders above Beas AND you could get something out of a Beas trade then I’m good with Barnes. I don’t see other teams lining up for Beas right now though. Irving. Hell ya. He’s #1 on my board. Sullinger is a beast but drafting him would force us to trade Love. Which I would be ok with as long as you got complete and total value in the trade. A very good starter and pick(s). If we win the lottery we take Irving and ask questions about what we do with Rubio later. Then we make sure we get Burks with our other pick. He’s probably going in the 6-10 range so we’d have to trade up from our Memphis pick. Which would be fine with me. The more realistic scenario is that we get screwed in the lottery, pick 5. Then we take Burks (it’s not a reach, trust me) at 5, and target Tristan Thompson with one of our other picks. We get a dynamic multi-faceted 2 guard and an aggressive, long, athletic post player. 2 things we so desperately need.

by wolfen on Feb 28, 2011 8:44 AM CST reply actions  

Perry Jones or Irving......

I’m not even going to consider drafting lower than #2. I wanted Irving as our top pick, but the more I learn about Jones, the more excited I get. His size, athleticism and potential are off the charts. Jones at PF would be perfect next to an under size Love at center and Beasley (SF)..
As far as Irving, he sounds like a pg with Chris Paul potential……

by mnsportsjunkie on Feb 28, 2011 9:46 AM CST reply actions  

I still am high on Barnes

He represents that potentially high-end SG that is so tough to find. His production sure looks pretty average at NC, but I’d be willing to take a risk on that much athleticism, naturally ability, and strong work ethic.

We need resolution to the Rubio situation. If he will legitimately play here, my top 3 are Barnes, P Jones, Irving. I would also be up for prioritizing Irving #1 if Rubio can be moved for equal value.

No interest in Sullinger, seems kind of Love-redundant.

by Powerslave777 on Feb 28, 2011 10:39 AM CST reply actions  

I'm sick of counting on rookies!

I’m not too excited in this draft. Irving is nice, Jones(s) are ok. Barnes is ok. I think Burkes might be the real deal though. Given our history, we should be picking 5-7, so this will probably happen. In the later part of the first, I hope we get Jajuan Johnson, and Demitri McCamey. With a weak draft, and redundancy all over compared to our current lineup, I think Kahn keeps cycling draft picks to later years. Our roster is set anyway, and other than Rubio, don’t expect to see anything huge as far as roster moves.

by 612TimL on Feb 28, 2011 11:23 AM CST reply actions  

I can't take anything you say seriously after you mention trading Love for a unproven rookie.

Kevin Love had 37 and 23 last night. He is leading the NBA in rebounding by 2.5 per game. He is averaging 20.5 and 15.5 per game. He is top 15 in the league in 3% and FT%. He is only 22.

If Joe Johnson and Rudy Gay get a max contract Kevin Love is worth 2 x Max.

We should draft the Best Player Available that plays either Guard position or Center.

by xraraavis on Feb 28, 2011 12:32 PM CST reply actions  

I would consider drafting a SF too

Simply because I don’t think it’s a given that Beasley improves and I also don’t think Wes’ ceiling is high enough to make him our insurance there. That said over anyone else on the team, I think Beasley deserves more time (and is more valuable than anyone not named Love). Note that I put more weight on WP48 than just about any other stat so there is no way I trade Love unless we’re getting a superstar.

by zebano on Feb 28, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

My take

1. Irving
2. Barnes
3. Trade out or Jones
4. Who cares?
5. Who cares?
6. Who cares?

There is no way we can pass on Irving if we get the #1 pick. I just read someone in another thread complaining that we need one PG that combines the best skills of all our current PGs. Irving would do that, only he’d probably start out (at 19 years old) being more advanced at each of these skills than our current PGs combined.

As much as I want to see Rubio in a Wolves jersey, I have no problem flipping him for some help at SG or C if we know we have Irving. And if we got the #1 pick, I’d even suggest looking to move Rubio/Flynn/Webster/Pek for the #2 or #3 spot this year if it meant getting Barnes (not that this is particularly realistic, just an interesting thought).

Barnes is going to figure it out. He’s got the skills, the size, the athleticism, and from what I’ve read, the desire. Obviously, all the “next Kobe” hype was a little much. But even if he turns out to be more like Paul Pierce or Joe Johnson, how is that not a great guy to have? (this is where all the advanced stats guys tell me that his floor is McCants and his ceiling is Allan Houston)

To me, the rest of the field looks like a bunch of the same, Jones included. They all look like guys who may or may not someday crack a rotation…some of them will, some of them won’t but none of these guys screams, “You’re gonna regret not taking me.” If we get the #3, we see if we can trade out. Someone will want the guy left at #3. If we can’t get help at SG or C, we take Jones. If we get the #4 pick, we forfiet it and demand an investigation into the lotto procedures!

Like everyone else I’d take Jimmer with the Memphis pick, especially if we land Irving. Jimmer looks like an instant offense 6th man and would be a great compliment to Irving as a backup PG.

I know a lot of people on the board don’t want any more “youth” and want to win now with a vet, but that attitude is not in the best interest of the team long-term. I know another “rebuild” would be a lot to stomach, but imagine a scenario where next year we trot out:

Irving/Ridnour/Jimmer
Barnes/WesJ/Jimmer
Beas/WesJ/Randolph
Love/Randolph/Tolliver
Darko/Randolph/Tolliver

Throw a ton of money at DeAndre Jordan and that lineup looks like an actual NBA roster and a legitimate playoff team in 2 years.

by Rain Dance on Feb 28, 2011 2:27 PM CST reply actions  

The only pick I would not be hesitant about is

Irving. Widely considered the #1 pick and rightfully so.
I really like Perry’s potential he is my 2nd choice.

But other than winning the lottery, I think no player in this draft can be counted on to make an impact (which is necessary to minimize Clippergeddon damage).
In my opinion I think that if Perry and Barnes have failed to make an significant impact in college than there is little chance they would be able to in the NBA. Irving made a difference on an Already great Duke team in his short season. Barnes should be tearing up the weak ACC if he was NBA ready. Perry doesnt even seem like the best player on Baylor.

For what it is worth I would like us to pick up Jimmer or Singler midround

by Waucckhewww on Mar 1, 2011 12:12 PM CST reply actions  

We may only get one pick

Memphis is not winning enough to crack the playoff teams and Utah has sunk like a rock. With Sloan a playoff berth was basically a given.

by Haze grey on Mar 1, 2011 5:08 PM CST reply actions  

It's ridiculous that you have Terrence Jones at number 2

Kyrie Irving and Harrison Barnes are without question the two best prospects in the draft. Harrison Barnes had a rough 6 game stretch to start his career at UNC but has been unbelievable and been the main reason the team has bounced back into the tournament. He has all the skills you want in a franchise player, is an excellent human being, and is from freaking AMES IOWA!!! If we ever have a shot in hell at getting a player who could be top 5 in the NBA one day and actually want to stay here long term, it’s him.

And Kyrie Irving is just an excellent point guard. Duke was murdering teams till he went down, and now they are just good.

Terrence and Perry Jones are both nice, but how are they any different than Michael Beasley? They might be better than him long-term, but how much and when? and why we would want to just add to the Wolves legacy of log-jamming the 3-4 position is beyond me.

BPA and FIT are both Irving and Barnes, gotta go with them

by Wolvesguy on Mar 2, 2011 8:32 AM CST reply actions  

One reason

Well Perry is three inches taller than Beas, so that is kind of a big difference.
I agree that Terrance is similar to Beas, but he is a better passer than Beas. I like Irving, but you want to draft another PG? If rubio comes over that leaves us with 4 point guards, are we going to be able to trade Flynn or Ridinour? Prolly but maybe not for much value, I like Barnes as well, but he plays the 2/3 like Wes/Webster/Lazar/ and Ellington,
The simple solution is we need to trade some of our mediorce talent for picks, or one better player.
No matter who we pick we’ll be log jamming, I like the Jones’ because they have the ability to play 3 positions, so less log jamming .

by Dred on Mar 2, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

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