Turning it around?
by ynotsema2 on May 18, 2011 10:18 AM CDT
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If we were going to try it, it would start with a Michael Beasley trade. The first option I have in mind would send Beasley, Pekovic, and the #20 pick to Golden State for Monta Ellis. The second option I have in mind would send Beasley, Pekovic, Lazar Hayward, and the #20 pick to Houston for Kevin Martin. The third option would be to send Beasley, Milicic, Ellington, and the #20 to Philadelphia for Andre Iguodala.
The second step would be turning the #2 pick in a 2-player draft into another solid veteran. Option A would send Milicic (or Pekovic, whichever wasn't involved in the first trade), Flynn, and the #2 pick (the slotted salary is roughly equal to Luke Ridnour's salary so I've used him as a proxy) to the L.A. Lakers for Andrew Bynum. Option B would send Milicic (or Pekovic), Flynn, Randolph, Johnson, the #2 pick, and Utah's protected pick to Orlando for Dwight Howard. Option C would send Milicic (or Pekovic), Flynn, Randolph, Johnson, and Derrick Williams to New Orleans for Chris Paul and Emeka Okafor - the ESPN Trade Machine suggests that this won't work, but I believe it will work once Eddy Curry's contract comes off our books on July 01.
Golden State option: I think Beasley is a really good fit there. Plus they add a pick and a young, low post scorer in exchange for a guy whose skill set is redundant with Stephen Curry's.
Houston option: Pekovic adds depth down low. Beasley can be the focal point of their offense at the 4 or the 3. Plus they get younger.
Philadelphia option: Ellington is a Philly native who would be well received. Beasley is a better pairing with Turner than Iguodala is. Milicic provides some beef to their front line.
Lakers option: I think the Lakers are a team in search of a new identity at this point. Adding a young scorer like Williams, and a misused prospect like Flynn in exchange for an injury prone center like Bynum is a way to rejuvenate that team.
Orlando option: if they're considering rebuilding instead of reloading, a huge if, then this isn't a bad haul for them. Randolph still has untapped potential. Williams could be their next franchise centerpiece. Flynn would be well served to learn from Nelson and could transition into the starting spot in a couple of years. Johnson could also help them along coming off the bench.
New Orleans option: for a team with money troubles and on the brink of losing their two best players (David West this summer and Paul next summer), this might be just the trade they're looking for. It will take a while for it to all come together, but this would be a nice way to jump start the rebuilding process. Williams is often compared to West, so he's a nice place to start with replacing West. Flynn will be much better in that offense and with Monty Williams' defensive system. Randolph could play the center when they decide to go small, and maybe some point forward when they go big.
We'd have one of the following line-ups:
C - Bynum (A); Howard (B); Okafor (C)
PF - Love
SF - Johnson (A); Webster (B & C)
SG - Ellis (1); Martin (2); Iguodala (3)
PG - Rubio (A & B); Paul (C)
Key Bench pieces: Tolliver, Ridnour, Ellington (1 & 2), Hayward (1 & 3), Randolph (A), Rubio (C)
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I would never, never trade the 2 pick for Bynum
He so rarely plays healthy(or at all) that he just isn’t worth it for a lousy team. He is a luxury good for an already good team that can make the playoffs without him playing for half a season. On the Wolves he would be totally irrelevant. He would help them win a few more games, but not enough to matter.
I totally disagree
In this draft, Bynum would go #1 overall, #2 at worst if the team drafting really needed a point guard. He is one of the best centers in the league and would complement Love perfectly.
by All in on the 12-5 on May 18, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Dwight Howard
I’d take the Dwight Howard deal. Orlando should be pressured to sell and rebuild this offseason. I don’t view too many other teams that would be willing to risk a lot for a one year/ possibly two year man. Here are a few that I thought up. Obviously I’m not a GM, but I think they might fly with their teams.
Lakers could put up Gasol and Artest for Howard and Turkoglu, but this doesn’t really help Orlando rebuild.
Golden State could put up Lee and Ellis, for Howard and Turkoglu.
Clippers could put up Kaman, Gordon, Williams, Foye, Aminu, and the Wolves unprotected pick next year for Howard and Arenas.
Sacramento could put up Cousins, Dalambert, and the #7 for Howard and Turkoglu.
Dwight Howard = Kahn statue outside of Target Center
The first paragraph seemed fairly reasonable with trades that could be a possibility, but the second paragraph ….Dwight Howard….haha, not a chance…what you think he wants to be the king of corn country? No Way!! Chris Paul and Andrew Bynum dont want to come here either. Besides the pretentiousness of the 2nd paragraph, this was a pretty good post!!
Oh I forgot to mention.....
Kevin Martin and Monta Ellis both suck on Defense!!! Last thing this team needs is a crappy defender!!!
The first thing we need is someone who can be awesome though
and they both are awesome at what they do
I’d take either
You seem to view the exact opposite things in SGs that I do
Because I would have completely flipped your order around
Option A) Iggy, B) Martin, C) Ellis
Iggy is by far the most complete player out of the tree, plays excellent defense and is the best passer of the three
However I still agree with the premise of your trade.
With Bynum….I wonder if we’d have to give up the 2nd pick either.
I listened to the BS Report last week and Marc Stien suggest trying to get 4 good players for him. They threw out trading him to the Rockets for Lowery, Buddinger and something else unspectacular. Like for me Ridnour, Johnson is almost as good as Lowery and Buddinger and we could probably find someway to make it work without the 2nd pick
But let’s say we do give the Lakers the 2nd pick. If we want to fleece them a little how about adding this little nugget to the trade: Shannon Brown
Brown is on the verge of being an excellent starting swing guard, and Iggy can play the 3, so we roll up a team with Rubio, Brown, Iggy, Love, Bynum
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