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The Death Star has exploded

C78d92aa1b9168be34ccb870d4dd4518-getty-114832846cc145_dallas_maver_mediumThe Mavericks defied the Heat, the ghosts of their past, and just about every statistical projection, and won the 2011 Finals. Dirk Nowitzki and Jason Kidd finally get a well-deserved championship ring.

Oh, and Corey Brewer too.

For the NBA, this was fantastic. Dallas is a new face on the championship podium, TV ratings were way, way up (proving once and for all that there does not need to be a Los Angeles or Boston involved for people to be interested) and Dirk is a pretty ideal guy to be everybody's new hero. He's Finals MVP (as if there was ever any doubt)

For the Heat....and for LeBron James in particular....there's a lot of soul searching ahead.

And for the Mavs. Congratulations. You but on one of the best shows in recent memory. This was well, well deserved.

EDIT: I'm also very hopeful this means we can get the 3.7 million Heat writers off of ESPN's Twitter feed. Good God, enough is enough...

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Wish it were the Wolves...

but I’m very happy for the Mavs-the team I follow second to the Wolves (I live in DFW now). Way to go Dirk and Kidd!

Timberwolves' record: Undefeated (5-11, if you go by so-called "Advanced Stats")

by Wolf21 on Jun 12, 2011 10:25 PM CDT reply actions  

All I can say

is thank god we fired Dwayne Casey after only 40 games. A solid .500 record with an inferior team?! NOT IN THIS STATE. Randy Wittman was able to salvage that season, fortunately. Creative defenses? Solid offense? THAT ISN’T THE TWOLVES WAY!

by Ricky Rubio! on Jun 13, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

cue

the Ewok “lub lub” song.

Very happy for Dwayne Casey too.

"Can someone please help me out, who did wolves pick, doesnt look too positive around here"

by Rasho Revolution on Jun 12, 2011 10:40 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

What

30+ year old vets can the Wolves get for next year?

Reduce turnovers, reduce personal fouls, shoot better, win.

by PoohRubio on Jun 12, 2011 10:42 PM CDT reply actions  

The only thing I don't like about the Mavs victory

is that now history is gonna say Dirk was a better player than KG.

He wasn’t.

#thisisaTWolvesblog

by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 12, 2011 10:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Bill Simmons made a comment very similar to that in one of his recent articles

Fifty years from now, some stat geek will crunch numbers from Duncan’s era and come to the conclusion that Kevin Garnett was just as good.

by Oceanary on Jun 12, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see why...

both have one MVP and one ring. Maybe Dirk got the finals MVP and KG didn’t (Pierce got it, didn’t he?), but that is relatively small potatoes in the long run. How many defensive MVPs do KG and Dirk each have?

by Are we cursed? on Jun 12, 2011 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's every bit as good..

….on offense as KG was on defense.

#probablymorebutthisisawolvesblog

by Stop-n-Pop on Jun 13, 2011 6:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't want to look it up...

….because I’d like to remember KG being better than Dirk, but my guess is that I don’t think I’d like what I’d find.

by Stop-n-Pop on Jun 13, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

He is a better player

Dirk IS and will be regarded as a better player, individually and team wise. He also has gained and deserves more respect from his peers than Garnett ever has or will. Lebron resembles KG in this area. Both are pretty emotionally immature…KG with his expletives as he runs down the court, Lebron’s with his tendency to pout when things aren’t as easy as he expects them to be. KG in many situations, gave up the ball, instead of driving or hitting wide opne jumpers. We just witnessed…“The Witness”..The King himself fail in epic proportions. Dirk has overcome alot, accusations that he is a choke artist..
.KG is was a very good player, on a loaded team in Boston. The C’s one a championship wtih him…not primarily because of him. He had awesome and bloated stats in Minny, because we had alot of role players, and a few minor superstars for a short time. KG would have never had the stats, or the applause if he played with another championship level team.
Dirk..entirley different acheiver…he drives to the hoop, is a great perimeter shooter..and players on his team, and around the league respect him KG even while in Minny, had issues with players..a well known fact, that the man is an emotional prima donna at times, unpredictable, a pouter, an incessant trash talker….lughable at times to watch him chest thump and "F bomb..himself.

Both KG and Lebron, really don’t handle adversity well….they never had to compete for a Big Ten Championship, fight their way through an NCAA Tourney. Both were “The Man” in High School..and especailly Lebron….I get the feeling from the time “The Decision” was anounced until Game Four..almost assumed the Title was his, and when he faced adversity…he completely crumbled.

KG granted, never faced the scrutiny here in Minnesota…we were to soft on his lack of demanding the ball, he never commanded the kind of attention in the playoffs….and until Sprewell, and Cassell got here. Before and after their West COnf Champ. run…he never caused or gave concern to another team that KG was going to take over a series…and the players that played with him KNEW that about him…

by ronnoinduluth on Jun 13, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I couldn't disagree with you more.

1) KG has gained and deserves plenty of respect from his peers.
2) KG overcame a lot too, people used to dog him a lot as a “choker,” just like Dirk.
3) What are awesome and bloated stats? Anything like jumbo shrimp?
4) Dirk is a better offensive player – that doesn’t mean KG didn’t command attention though. I noticed you didn’t mention defense.
5) KG talks alot. So did Jordan. And Bird. And Kobe. So?
6) I could and have criticized KG for a lot of things, but prima donna? That’s laughable.
7) KG never faced scrutiny here. Sure.
8) Playoff stats before ‘03: 20.8 pts/game (brought down by his first couple playoff seasons; he was averaging 24 pts/game the previous three playoffs before 03), 12.5 boards/game, 4.9 assts/game, while basically being a one-man 7’1’’ defense, with a worse supporting cast than Dirk’s ever had. One year, he went for 24, 18, 5. 18,11,9 another year. 27, 15, 5 against the Lakers. Basically, I think players and opponents were worried he could take over a series.

If someone wants to say Dirk was better than KG, fine. I understand the argument and it is hard to argue against.

I just hope they come up with a better case than you did.

by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jun 13, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brewer and Cardinal have a ring

Mike Miller does not.

I think this is the first time in history one man managed to destroy an entire city by himself. Even the Enola Gay had a flight crew.

by Auswolf on Jun 12, 2011 11:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Brian Cardinal

was a +16 in the game that won the NBA Championship, while LeBron James was -24.

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by PoorDick on Jun 12, 2011 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Let the MJ and Cardinal comparisons commense!

"All men make mistakes, but married men find out about them sooner." -Twain

by Tangerine dream on Jun 12, 2011 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ridiculous.

Cardinal is 5x the player MJ ever was.

(We’re talking about Mike James, right?)

...I've been drinking...

by losDelFuego on Jun 12, 2011 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unfair comparison.

Cardinal’s career isn’t over yet.

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by PoorDick on Jun 12, 2011 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Juwan Howard

is also ring-less.

thanks for screwing us over again.

by TwinATL on Jun 13, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baby Bron Bron needs his binky.

by Fuzzem on Jun 12, 2011 11:51 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Cleveland thought Bron checked out in the playoffs last year

because he had one foot out of the door already.

Turns out he is just a choker. Who knew?

Bosh looked rather, um, timid as well.

I’m very surprised Miller was hurt a lot and didn’t shoot as much as expected. Not.

"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra

by Wile E Coyote on Jun 12, 2011 11:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Looking at the sidelines in time outs

Bosh was the only one actually giving a damn, trying to motivate. I never much thought highly of him till after this series.

by Black Metallic on Jun 13, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Glad for Nowitski - he has earned it

Dude puts in a lot of time in the offseason improving his game, stayed with one franchise, fought through some tough stuff (losing after it looked like the had a championship last time, losing in first round as 1 seed, girlfriend who turns out to be a psychotic criminal…)

"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra

by Wile E Coyote on Jun 12, 2011 11:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Worst part of the next 5 years

Hearing about how any non-Heat titles are LeBron’s fault. More Brian Cardinal talk!

by aarendsvark on Jun 13, 2011 12:34 AM CDT reply actions  

I do not like Brian Cardinal's nickname "the custodian."

I have a better suggestion. Earlier this year, when the Wolves played the Mavs, Brian Cardinal made a 3, and Tom Hanneman claimed, “the ghost of Brian Cardinal is back!” Hanny may have been joking, but I think “the ghost” is a much better nickname for Cardinal. Brian Cardinal is so white he may as well be a ghost. Anyways, congrats to Brew, Cardinal, Casey, and the rest of the Mavs on their well deserved title.

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by BeLoved842 on Jun 13, 2011 12:40 AM CDT reply actions  

All this talk about ex-wolves winning a ring

in Brewer, Cardinal and Casey. But there’s another ex-wolf we forgot to mention……

That makes 4 ex Wolves on this team with a championship ring. Congrats Corey, congrats Custodian, congrats Casey, and congrats Juwan. You all played a part in helping Dallas win a championship. Though your time here was brief, you’ll always be a part of us. I wonder how many ex Wolves left the team and went on to win a championship? Add KG to the mix. Can someone do a list?

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by Action on Jun 13, 2011 12:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Whoops

Juwan jumped on the Miami coattails this year, Action.

Rrrrrruuuubiyomboooo!

by BrettAhlgren on Jun 13, 2011 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oooops. That's what I get for juicing...guess I wasn't paying attn. (sheepish grin)

Thanks. Oh well, these playoffs were littered with ex Wolves. Hopefully, the real ones can get there someday. Thanks for pointing that out.

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by Action on Jun 13, 2011 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's ok

Juwan is one “former Wolf” I’ve got very little love for.

Rrrrrruuuubiyomboooo!

by BrettAhlgren on Jun 13, 2011 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Little to no love at all.

He came here wanting to play along side KG, then KG got trade, and Juwan requested trade.

by abcnerdd on Jun 13, 2011 1:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

To be fair

Juwan also helped the Mavs win a title.

by Dumbhead62 on Jun 13, 2011 2:11 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

CoreyBrewer13
Yeah we are the champs its all said and done and yes to all the haters I can say it I’m a world champion

Ya know, every championship team has guys riding the pine who get their rings too. With that in mind, I count Corey amongst the absolute most deserving. Consummate teammate and great, great guy.

Rrrrrruuuubiyomboooo!

by BrettAhlgren on Jun 13, 2011 12:51 AM CDT reply actions  

I disagree on the Heat soul-searching

I think going six games in the NBA Finals is a success for the first year of this experiment. Yeah, they didn’t win the championship this year, but they got about as close as you can get and they have plenty of years left to win one.

JonnyRotten Flynn, that is

by JonnyRotten on Jun 13, 2011 1:11 AM CDT reply actions  

I disagree too

They have no soul to search for.

by Rascal Flatts on Jun 13, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's if...

That’s if Riley isn’t forced to blow it up. We jsut witnessed something a few only dared mutter about..The King. When it comes to clutch time…he retreats. Watching him in their four losses..words can’t describe how utterly clueless, and indifferent he seemed. We already knew he doesn’t move well on the floor without the ball. Did you see him really willing to, or could he be trusted in a pick and roll situation. He passes the ball..RAPIDLY out of his hands when he normailly would drive, or hit an open jumper. In a epic fashion, he repeeatedly and almost completely looked like a very average role player. A role player that a team was counting on, because they thought he could overcome and overachieve.

The diference…He is paid, or marketed or on the floor to be a role player. He is The King…just ask him!…I laughed when he commented about the fact he had a Triple Double the other night. You had some stats….not a dominating performance that caused the Mavs to fear his presence. He folded offensively, defensively…because emotionally, he isn’t mature enough as a player or person to lead and demand performance by his leadership example.

by ronnoinduluth on Jun 13, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agree.

The King was turned into a toad. He could have used a year or two of maturing in college. Really think it’s a factor in his reluctance to lead.

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by Tangerine dream on Jun 13, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

PS

The coughing bit reminded me of a couple of highschool kids.

"All men make mistakes, but married men find out about them sooner." -Twain

by Tangerine dream on Jun 13, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

And agreed..

The lack of college experience is in my opinion, may haunt LBS’s career. He never had to compete for a Big Ten Champinship for example, that would in turn would have prepared him for the NCAA Tourney. He branded himself and his advisors as the heir apparent. I watched with amusement as he held up his fingers as if to say.."I don’t know how many championships we are going to win…five, six, seven??? Before the team even practiced. Very ala’ Jordan who did the same thing..after he won at least or 3 or 4 titles I believe. Hey Lebeon.,,,start with one. And unless, he demonstrates he can can lead, handle the pressure of a fourth quarter, game after game, he may never see a title.

by ronnoinduluth on Jun 16, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

mavs fan here. thanks to corey- he saved the mavs vs the lakers

and cardinal “dad” was the answer to lebron!

thank you brandon roy and portland for waking up the mavs

by indenialsince2006 on Jun 13, 2011 1:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Look at what David Thorpe said when assessing title contenders in next year's Western Conference:

link

They were by far the West’s best in the playoffs, and they have plenty of young talent in the pipeline. Corey Brewer has a bright future…

by nextmove on Jun 13, 2011 6:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Beaubois and Butler didn't even play

And Calathes is in Europe. It’s really going to hurt when the American Rubio ends up being better than the Rubio Rubio.

by Stop-n-Pop on Jun 13, 2011 6:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

LeBron’s theme song?

Can we make stupidity more painful?

by nodnarb on Jun 13, 2011 2:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just happy the Mavs won

Nowitzki, Kidd, Terry, Cuban. They all deserve this. Did you guys see the Gilbert tweet about there being no short cuts to a ring? Loved that.

by lurifax on Jun 13, 2011 2:09 AM CDT reply actions  

Come on...

Gilbert is right. And LeBron bolting out of Cleveland to get a ring quicker is pretty much the opposite of the way Dirk has gone about winning his. I like it when they call out LeShrinkinforthquarter like this. He should have stayed.

by lurifax on Jun 13, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

The day I take advice on class from Dan Gilbert

Will be the day hell’s snow closure notices are posted in Comic Sans. LeBron looked bad in this series, I don’t know what the heck’s up with him. But the Cavaliers organization didn’t own the guy, and i can’t blame him for wanting to leave.

by aarendsvark on Jun 14, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I really didn't care who won this series

until LeBron showed that he really is a big f**kin loser when it matters most. I hope he never wins a ring.

LeDouche. Go Mavs.

For the loser now
Will be later to win

by John Wall on Jun 13, 2011 3:44 AM CDT reply actions  

From a purely promotional standpoint

I’m not sure they can trade any of those three.

Not for a long time anyway.

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by JonesTheCat on Jun 13, 2011 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

The real upshot of a hard(er) cap might be that Miami's stalled out at this level of complementary roster.

We don’t know how the league would work things in the short term under a new cap figure, of course. I’d strongly suspect the HEAT would begin by unloading (“Allan Houstoning”) Mike Miller, rather than breaking up the triumvirate. They’d be even thinner for the next season or so.

by feral on Jun 13, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree....that it can't be LeBron

I think Bosh is going to get scapegoated (despite a respectable playoff showing), if it becomes necessary.

Rrrrrruuuubiyomboooo!

by BrettAhlgren on Jun 13, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing I'm not the only one

who noticed that a great offensive PF with limited athleticism/D paired with a mobile defensive C just won a championship.

Not that Love is at all at Dirk’s level offensively, but seems like a general template that could work. Easier to see that than pairing Love with another plodder (beware the Kanterwalk).

"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra

by Wile E Coyote on Jun 13, 2011 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like Darko if he drops 20 lbs...

Obviously, discounting efficiency/toughness/leadership/rebounding.

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by DarkoMilicic on Jun 13, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, we're pretty much there!

Just some significant tinkering and the twin cities will be awash in ticker-tape.

by aarendsvark on Jun 14, 2011 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Doh!

Dunno why I mis-typed it above. Good catch.

"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra

by Wile E Coyote on Jun 13, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

DJ Flula

has brought the Star Wars analogy full-circle.
I’ll now assume he’s a CH enthusiast.

Rrrrrruuuubiyomboooo!

by BrettAhlgren on Jun 13, 2011 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

It's interesting

The mavs had a lot of players from “critically acclaimed” (or at least entertaining) teams that didn’t win a title.

Marion from the SSOL Suns
Peja from the early 2000s Kings (Bibby, Webber, Vlade, Hedo, Bobby Jackson)
Dirk and JET from the Avery Johnson Mavericks
Kidd from the 2 time eastern conference champion Nets
Chandler from the “Baby Bulls”
Stevenson/Butler from the entertaining but flawed Arenas Wizards
Hell, even Brewer and Cardinal from the T-wolves

Even with the unlikability of Miami, I have to think there were a lot of fanbases rooting for the Mavs from their fond memories of these squads.

by TwinATL on Jun 13, 2011 5:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Know what this title does for me?

Validates the idea that it’s better to just build a competitive team as well as you can, even one whose perceived ceiling maxes out in the mid-50s win total, over doing things like tanking or avoiding good players because they will limit your flexibility to land a superstar.

I seem to remember a specific discussion about whether you’d rather be a Dalls fan or Clippers fan. The guy on LAC’s side was saying it’s best to wait around for Blake, because clearly Dallas was maxed out and would never win.

You build a perreniallly competitive team, and maybe you make a right-team-right-time run.

by LoveTo on Jun 13, 2011 7:31 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

A great coaching staff can put a 50's team over the top come playoff time.

"All men make mistakes, but married men find out about them sooner." -Twain

by Tangerine dream on Jun 13, 2011 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

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