Second half thread
by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 10, 2012 8:25 PM CST
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Your mother
must be very proud
"I don't think I've ever seen a group that is as good at turning the ball over as this one." Rick Adelman
Im' never first on these things..
I had to announce it.. and yes.. she’s proud
It's a game!
I like it.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
Randolph needs some cucumber on his eyes
Rome wasn't built in a day
by wet_nurse on Jan 10, 2012 8:28 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Let's hope
he keeps it up!
"I don't think I've ever seen a group that is as good at turning the ball over as this one." Rick Adelman
He's a competent wing player
How would he fit in here?
We should bring in more scrub big men; they make good curse fodder.
that was very nice by Luke on both ends..
give credit where credit is due
Three point game!
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
Coast to Cost Luke!
Pek apologist
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Jan 10, 2012 8:30 PM CST reply actions
Hanneman's best call of the week
Gotta love the “cool hand luke” reference
"Some people just want to watch the world burn"
We haven't heard a "rise and shine rookies" call yet
I hope all of the oops go to Randolph so that I don’t have to hear him say that again.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
Good call Luke
Don’t pass to a big busting his ass down the court, you take it
Over on the Bulls Blog
They were blowing up Rubio and saying he’s shitting in his pants getting ready to guard Rose.
By the end of the 2nd half it was “you know, Rubio kinda reminds me of Steve Nash”
“Ya, He’s the real deal. Good D on Rose.”
I like the way he moves his feet and fights through screens..
he also helps well
And he's a great rebounder for a pg
I’m cool having great as the adjective there.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
Ya, I bet Ricky gets real scared to go against NBA stars
After having already done it in the Olympics.
Y, he's like "Whud up Derrick"
“Wuz shakin Rubs. I still owe you 35 dollars.”
“Yeah you do!”
by fanslaststand on Jan 10, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
They were expecting an unselfis pass
Hey Chicago, that wasn’t Rubio dribbling. Hahahahaha!
"I don't think I've ever seen a group that is as good at turning the ball over as this one." Rick Adelman
does this mean RR starts next game?
given this third quarter change
He's going at Derrick Rose and, right now, outplaying him
If that’s not how you earn a starting spot, then Adelman is deliberately using him on the bench regardless.
Harsher Than Scissors
I can't imagine a scenario
where they somehow manage the feat of winning this one, and RA doesn’t start this line up next game
The Bulls Blog
hates this entire state right now, btw.
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 10, 2012 8:33 PM CST reply actions
Every time Ridnour lets Ricky be the primary ball handler
An angel gets an alley-oop. Or something.
by Dark_Aardvark on Jan 10, 2012 8:34 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
gotta love the you betch
Pek apologist
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Jan 10, 2012 8:34 PM CST reply actions
Deng, regressing to the mean.
He’s too good to keep up the Wes impression.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 8:35 PM CST reply actions
There really isn't a spot on the floor
where Deng has a problem scoring.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
Except for this litte square area
In the right sideline corner, in front of the 5th chair from the end…
And we gotta think about resting some guys.
…namely Kevin…
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 8:35 PM CST reply actions
Deng
is exactly the type of player at SF that would be a killer addition for the wolves.
You could argue he'd be the best fit for us. Him or Iggy.
I think I’d take Deng.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
I'd say he isn't normally this bad.
Wasn’t looking good in the first half.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
I gotcha yeah.
I really like Loul is all. Not enough to know if the U or O is first though.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
...google says it's the U...
So I got that going for me.
Which is nice.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
He's one of the best wings in the league
Can score from anywhere, rebounds well, plays outstanding D. There are very few wings I’d take over him.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
That's a PG?
Shit! Here we go
"I don't think I've ever seen a group that is as good at turning the ball over as this one." Rick Adelman
Too much Deng
but then AR!
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Jan 10, 2012 8:37 PM CST reply actions
OK.. now. nobody helps off of Deng.. I don't care what happens..
do not help off Deng
I turn on the game...
and see Luke drive and turn it over in traffic. He looks like Jonny Flynn.
Randolph
"I don't think I've ever seen a group that is as good at turning the ball over as this one." Rick Adelman
The Darko era is over
"I don't think I've ever seen a group that is as good at turning the ball over as this one." Rick Adelman
So Ricky and Love are going to have to sit soon
What happens then? Luke/JJ? Luke/Wayne? Williams?
He who rides a wolf cannot dismount.
RANDOLPH THE GRAY WITH THE WIZARDLY BUCKET
by davechisholm on Jan 10, 2012 8:38 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
That's fairly apt for AR's offensive game, too.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 10, 2012 9:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's artificial intelligence.
Not sure how the video game works.
He who rides a wolf cannot dismount.
Ricky's a God
You see how he set up that Luke three? Point inside, point inside…oh, no, I have this guy open on the wing, nevermind.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 8:39 PM CST reply actions
Randolph has played his way into the starting lineup
As has Williams.
We will soon trot out the rarely seen double PG, triple PF starting lineup.
The secret weapon
has arrived!
"I don't think I've ever seen a group that is as good at turning the ball over as this one." Rick Adelman
And then Luke fouls unneccesarily.
unnecisarily. Unnecessarily. I think the last one is right.
And there goes the game!
"I don't think I've ever seen a group that is as good at turning the ball over as this one." Rick Adelman
At least AR can get his hand above the rim
#byebyedarko
Give JJ some help!
"I don't think I've ever seen a group that is as good at turning the ball over as this one." Rick Adelman
Randolph and probably Rubio, but I can't think of anyone else...
Wes maybe??
by Lance Steele on Jan 10, 2012 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Wes is beyond help
Maybe some steroids. I dunno
"I don't think I've ever seen a group that is as good at turning the ball over as this one." Rick Adelman
If Randolph did. he’d be pretty darn good.
by MychalShannon1 on Jan 10, 2012 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
unbelievable
Did anyone foresee him going mano y mano with the best PGs night in and night out? I mean we knew he would be good but THIS good?
"Some people just want to watch the world burn"
by TwolfTom on Jan 10, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Why
does Rubio guard the PGs and Barea guards the SGs? Rubio’s 6’5 and Barea’s 5’10. There has to be a reason.
I'd say 5'10" is generous
He’s probably shorter than Nate Rob, who is 5’9"
He's 5'9'' if he's an inch.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
Literally laughed out loud.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 10, 2012 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
Play hard to come from behind and lose by a few
I hope I am wrong today.
Rubios - "Clinically PROVEN to Help Reduce Suckiness"
DWill's gotta shoot that right away.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 8:44 PM CST reply actions
Plus Williams actually being a rookie
Where Ricky is not even close to one
It's crazy
how many of his TOs are because of his teammates not reading the play correctly.
One thing about Rose that's very noticeable
Is he is extremely calm on the court. A lot of other pgs have got annoyed by Ricky. He isn’t showing anything at all. This might be because of his total lack of visible personality, but it’s still a good attribute.
Harsher Than Scissors
Barea gold-bricking again...
At least we got 2 that time…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Rubio just forced 2 straight TOs from Rose
Can’t play D in the NBA.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 8:47 PM CST reply actions
Possibly his worst game so far.
And I might not have had to put possibly in there.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
RR is too smart for his own good.. his teammates don't have his basketball IQ
by bsg007 on Jan 10, 2012 8:48 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
That was terrible on Ricky’s part. Come on.
by MychalShannon1 on Jan 10, 2012 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
It was a terrible idea, but he's got a point.
Ricky just sees the game better. If AR had seen what he’d seen, there’d be 13 “AR RR EAg@%$151” quotes now.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
Looked like to me that a defender was in front of him. But I could be wrong. I like the idea but a turnover is a turnover. Both are at fault I guess.
by MychalShannon1 on Jan 10, 2012 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
Damn, I hate when Ricky makes bad decisions.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 8:48 PM CST reply actions
Riverboat Ricky
Is riverboat gambling tonight.
how will the minutes be managed in the 4th?
Pek apologist
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Jan 10, 2012 8:50 PM CST reply actions
After watching Bama last night we should all hold up 4 fingers for this one.
by Doug West Domination!!! on Jan 10, 2012 8:50 PM CST reply actions
And point the 2 middle ones at Chicago
sorry couldn’t resist it
by Doug West Domination!!! on Jan 10, 2012 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
Rubio will redefine the turnover
Big deal if 50% of your lobs go out of bounds, it’s a 100% 2 points if it hits.
Didn't Ricky play the entire 3rd?
Is he going to go all 12 in the 4th as well?
He who rides a wolf cannot dismount.
Gotta give him to the under 9 timeout
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Jan 10, 2012 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
He's a soccer player also
he should be fine
by Doug West Domination!!! on Jan 10, 2012 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
Some starters never saw the 3rd quarter
Darko, Wes, Wayne. Looks like Adelman has finally completed his “evaluations”.
"I don't think I've ever seen a group that is as good at turning the ball over as this one." Rick Adelman
What have we learned into the 4th?
Ricky is Ricky.
Love, on game 3, is still Love-ish.
Darko and Wes are somewhere, possibly, hopefully (or not)
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 10, 2012 8:52 PM CST reply actions
You gotta bench Ricky to start the fourth. Gotta rest the legs.
Hopefully the game’s close when he comes back.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 8:52 PM CST reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 10, 2012 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
Shit!
He sprained it after the play was over!
"I don't think I've ever seen a group that is as good at turning the ball over as this one." Rick Adelman
Somebody kick that guy in the red shirts ass
MOVE OUT OF THE WAY A$$HOLE
by Doug West Domination!!! on Jan 10, 2012 8:53 PM CST reply actions
You got it.
/Dennis Rodman
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
I was going to say the same until I saw the replay..
had nothing to do with the people on the floor although I don’t understand why those people aren’t further off the court.. seems like an accident waiting to happen
I've always thought that
Some of those guys on the court are 300 pound monstrosities. If they fall on you, you’re going to know a whole lot about it.
Harsher Than Scissors
Ya but he didn't move and just watched Barrea come at him.
Thankfully he’s fine so now I forgive him
by Doug West Domination!!! on Jan 10, 2012 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
Brittle
or bad luck
"I don't think I've ever seen a group that is as good at turning the ball over as this one." Rick Adelman
Can't wasit for Wes'
sophomore injury. (just kidding. No, really)
"I don't think I've ever seen a group that is as good at turning the ball over as this one." Rick Adelman
On another note...
Can you imagine how good Korver would be with Rubio? Guy is the best spot up shooter in the league and moves so well without the ball
"Some people just want to watch the world burn"
I try not to think
about how good other players would be.
"I don't think I've ever seen a group that is as good at turning the ball over as this one." Rick Adelman
JPete is right the baseline is way to clouded
Pek apologist
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Jan 10, 2012 8:54 PM CST reply actions
*Croweded
Pek apologist
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Jan 10, 2012 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
Gotta foul there
I know it happened fast, but 4 on 5 and JJ not looking like he was gonna get up in time. You have to take the foul there.
JJ jumping around on sideline.
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 10, 2012 8:55 PM CST reply actions
Thank Allah
"I don't think I've ever seen a group that is as good at turning the ball over as this one." Rick Adelman
Oops. Wrong God
Sorry
"I don't think I've ever seen a group that is as good at turning the ball over as this one." Rick Adelman
by Action on Jan 10, 2012 8:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I dont hope anyone gets injured
but that would surely get the league’s attention.
Build the team around Rubio
Rubios - "Clinically PROVEN to Help Reduce Suckiness"
by PoohRubio on Jan 10, 2012 8:56 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
We're never going to be able to win a game if we are down double figures in a fourth quarter
I do not believe it.
Harsher Than Scissors
Luke's played real good tonight.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 8:57 PM CST reply actions
I hate on Luke a lot..
but his second half has been very good
Totally disagree...
He’s pretty good at it…maybe you don’t see it tonight.
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
Okay I got to ask, is this RA actual offense?
Its as basic as ive seen in any team… straight pick and rolls up top, with no low presense to throw the ball into
Rubio got away with a walk
And I loved it.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:01 PM CST reply actions
I really like this lineup
Rubio, Luke, DWill, Love, Randolph
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
Rose is pissed at Ricky.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:03 PM CST reply actions
It's the best to watch.
Rose isn’t as pissed as Wall was. And I still think Westbrook was the most pissed.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
Ha, nice.
Considering he was the only one who had someone else take their SATs – YEAH, I CARE ABOUT THE SANCTITY OF THE SATS!
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
It's remarkable how many times Rubio has poked the ball away from Rose
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Jan 10, 2012 9:06 PM CST reply actions
Over/Under on Dwill's made FT's here.
+/- .9
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 10, 2012 9:06 PM CST reply actions
I know, no moral victories etc
But if this is the way our team plays without a SG and with 2/3 of our best players being rookies, I’m very happy.
Jonny "Bag o' Chips" Flynn is gone, who's next?
Crystal Ball says Wes "The Ghost" Johnson
by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 10, 2012 9:07 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I hate the phrase 'haters'
That is all.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
hater
Pek apologist
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Jan 10, 2012 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
Love needed a rebounding ceter to help.
Darko afraid of contact
Flip would love the Bulls
They have been drilling jumpers all night
He who rides a wolf cannot dismount.
it tough to beat the Bulls when brewer hits shots
Rubios - "Clinically PROVEN to Help Reduce Suckiness"
Pretty much
And Deng hit them in our faces repeatedly when we were starting to close.
Harsher Than Scissors
We had our chances tonight....
Just missed too many open shots…
"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"
I think adelman messing w/ the starting lineup for 8 games
Could have cost us the 8th seed. We’ll see. Just saying
I got real mad at the people last year who screamed "HOW IS HE THE MVP??!"
Uh…watch this team play.
I’m a fan of the advanced stats and I know LeBron is LeBron and I know Dwight Howard is a WhatIfSports.com dreamboat, but come on.
Rose is in that argument and he was worthy.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed. He's good.
Haven’t really looked at his advanced stats, but he’s not much like anyone else. Quicks like DWade used to be I guess.
Love seems dead
Jonny "Bag o' Chips" Flynn is gone, who's next?
Crystal Ball says Wes "The Ghost" Johnson
Love for Keith Bogans?
Jonny "Bag o' Chips" Flynn is gone, who's next?
Crystal Ball says Wes "The Ghost" Johnson
by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 10, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
They just won't miss
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Jan 10, 2012 9:12 PM CST reply actions
They say that Rose is 11-20.
Feels to me more like he’s 19-20. He hits everything. Deng, too.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 10, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
sure but I'd love to have him over Darko
Pek apologist
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Jan 10, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
my thoughts exactly..
he has bitched about every call
If Asik and Pek were on the floor at the same time...
…who would foul out first? And would it take more or less than a minute?
He who rides a wolf cannot dismount.
Pek.
And you know this.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
For long stretches
The D hasn’t been too shabby, and the Bulls are still over fifty percent.
Harsher Than Scissors
Which players have been offered to Kahn for Rubio?
Rubios - "Clinically PROVEN to Help Reduce Suckiness"
Players who ride the bench I'm guessing
"Believe in the system. For it shall bring light when there is dark, food when there is hunger, and shots when there are passes. This is the divine process." Yeo 4:18
by NorthernStar on Jan 10, 2012 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Down 6 with 2 minutes.
Couldn’t ask for more.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:15 PM CST reply actions
When Ronnie Brewer's hitting threes....
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:16 PM CST reply actions
Adding on:
Is there a wing player on the Bulls who is worse than a wing player on the Wolves?
Answer: No.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Ndudi Ibi for Ronnie Brewer?
Jonny "Bag o' Chips" Flynn is gone, who's next?
Crystal Ball says Wes "The Ghost" Johnson
by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 10, 2012 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
Create that shot KLOVE!
Pek apologist
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Jan 10, 2012 9:16 PM CST reply actions
Damn
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Jan 10, 2012 9:17 PM CST reply actions
And when Rose can missile launch a three....Fuck.
EVERYTIME I THINK I’M OUT.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:17 PM CST reply actions
yeah no kidding
they look very impressive
by princelyfrank on Jan 10, 2012 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
55%
from three for the Bulls, it’s damn hard to beat them when that happens.
Fuck, Rose is good
I was a doubter last year, didn’t think he deserved the MVP, but holy crap at his play in this game
Jonny "Bag o' Chips" Flynn is gone, who's next?
Crystal Ball says Wes "The Ghost" Johnson
Don't think he deserved it last year either. He has one of the best supporting casts in the league.
Still an amazing player, though.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
They need some mood stabilisers over there
It is only the Wolves at the tail end of B2B2B.
Harsher Than Scissors
I’m sayin’ Every last one of them is acting like this is game 7 in the finals.
by MychalShannon1 on Jan 10, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
#%* it, Glass half-full:
How were we even in this game? Things Have Changed /Dylan.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:19 PM CST reply actions
I will gladly take a moral victory
Rubio + Williams are legit going to be good/great players, Love is great, we don’t have a real SG, and yet we still played with them this much.
Jonny "Bag o' Chips" Flynn is gone, who's next?
Crystal Ball says Wes "The Ghost" Johnson
by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 10, 2012 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
Williams and Love were actually pretty bad tonight
And we still hung with them. MORAL VICTORY
What's our record for moral victories this year?
Jonny "Bag o' Chips" Flynn is gone, who's next?
Crystal Ball says Wes "The Ghost" Johnson
by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 10, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
What I liked about tonight
Wes: 8 minutes
Wayne: 3 minutes
Darko: 3 minutes
by WolvesFan03 on Jan 10, 2012 9:19 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
And look what they still managed
Wayne: -12
Darko: -12
Wes: -15
The starting lineup is just terrible.
In the finale of a back-to-back-to-back
I’m not sure their teammates are fond of it.
Not that they’ve earned minutes; the roster is just threadbare.
All the better
Guys were definitely tired, and I wish this roster was deeper. Still, I was happy about this more from Adelman’s perspective—if he’s not willing to go with them in the third game in three nights situation, we might (hopefully) be seeing less of them in the future, too.
It's weird.
I still think CP3 is the best “PG,” but, Rose is a better player. I might even say Deron is a better PG too, but I’d still say Rose is the better player.
What I’m saying is, he’s going to get better.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
Well, the fact that they were even in the game when the Bulls shot like they did is something
Not entirely clear how they managed, actually. Got to the line and limited the TOs, I guess.
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Jan 10, 2012 9:20 PM CST reply actions
Let's just keep saying it.
Moral victory, moral victory, moral victory.
Right?
RIGHT?
(sobs in corner)
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 10, 2012 9:21 PM CST reply actions
Oh God he's right.
Moral Victory.
Gonna go perform Auto-Erotic Asphyxiation thinking about if we had Paul George now.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
In this scenario, boy george makes more sense than Paul George
Too hot to handle, too cold to hold
They're called the Ghostbusters and they're in control
Ha!
Why’d you really want to hurt me?
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
Don't think he'd outplay what Luke did tonight
Wing wasn’t our problem tonight.
Hey, we were 14th in the Hollinger Power Rankings today...
How many 3-6 teams have a + point differential? We’ll lose it after tonight, but I’m happy we didn’t roll over after being down 24.
by LosAngelesTWolf on Jan 10, 2012 9:22 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
the game channels has many listing of
Kevin Love misses a lay up.
Too hot to handle, too cold to hold
They're called the Ghostbusters and they're in control
Problem is it's a loss
Then we play bad against a mediocre team, and it’s a loss. There are no moral victories when you constantly play well enough to lose.
You can't...dust...for vomit.
LOL
In my defense, I have hope for this year.
You can't...dust...for vomit.
Save your hope
for next year and/or the trade deadline.
throw that money at Omer Asik!
Too hot to handle, too cold to hold
They're called the Ghostbusters and they're in control
Man
that Bulls 2nd unit is so tough. Asik and Gibson is a heck of a defensive front court. I think they’re a huge part of the Bulls success.
Disagree.
I want an unbiased announcing crew. I wear it as a badge of honor.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
Top to bottom. Every player on that team is good.
by MychalShannon1 on Jan 10, 2012 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
The Heat/Bulls series is the NBA finals in my opinion
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
Unfortunately, they're both in the East
But that would be a heck of a conference championship – even more so than it was last year.
My finals prediction is Bulls-Thunder. Midwest REPRESENT.
....did he get what I was saying?...
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, I got it.
But had to make sure you meant it in the way you meant it, because it’s impossible to tell when it’s written out as opposed to spoken.
Huh, well now I'm the asshole. Well played.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't mean it that way
Happy to join you as a fellow asshole.
by mg7505 on Jan 10, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Unlike yesterday
This has positives. I’m not even unhappy about this loss. The Bulls are going to be in the Eastern Conference Finals. We might, with luck, edge the eighth seed. And, you know, we made them work for it. The Bulls shot great. Rose played MVP-caliber ball. Their role players were completely on. Our star player wasn’t entirely on. And we were still there. That’s something to work with.
Harsher Than Scissors
Our star player was on....Rubio played great.
Fuck it, start the debate.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
This is true
No moral victories, but obviously a different animal than last night.
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Jan 10, 2012 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
too true
Pek apologist
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Jan 10, 2012 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
No moral victory claim here - this was a big ass L, and Chicago deserve plaudits and respect
But the Wolves are getting to a point where great teams can’t just expect to open a lead and coast. You’re going to have to work to get the result in the Target Centre.
Harsher Than Scissors
What is this, Canada?
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Jan 10, 2012 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
Haha, maybe I'm infected by fancy foreign ideas
The parochialism of where I grew up pretty much forced me right out.
Harsher Than Scissors
Randalph the Grey and Ridnour step up hugely
Ricky is Ricky. Heck, Love even finished 20-12, somehow.
Harsher Than Scissors
If the Wolves played like they did the 2-4 quarters today..
they would have defeated Memphis, Toronto and Cleveland
That's like saying
“if the Wolves were good, they’d be good.”
Right now they’re the poster child of teams with an extremely young team with only two and half competent players: wildly inconsistent, from quarter to quarter and game to game.
by mg7505 on Jan 10, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Teams that play slow physical D give the wolves the toughest game
MIL, CHI, TOR, CLE those are the bad match ups
Pek apologist
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Jan 10, 2012 9:25 PM CST reply actions
Bulls look like a Finals team to me. They're more than 3 deep, like Miami.
They have a lot of quality on both 1st and 2nd teams.
Miami's 3 are just so good though...
I mean, LeBron is already pretty scary…
Jonny "Bag o' Chips" Flynn is gone, who's next?
Crystal Ball says Wes "The Ghost" Johnson
by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 10, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
Miami's 2 and a half are just so good though...
(fixed that for you)
The shot chart for the Bulls is insane
In the 1stt and 4th they were beyond lethal on long 2s and 3’s. Something like 16-20, hard to tell.
He who rides a wolf cannot dismount.
They shot .550 on threes for the game!
And it’s not like we gave them that many open looks – they were just on fire tonight. Whoever plays them when they return to Earth is lucky.
There were a lot of open 3's I seem to remember
But they still hit way way more than they deserved too.
From a Bulls fan...
I absolutely love your team. I bought the NBA League Pass 5 team package this year, and picked the Wolves as one of my teams to watch because I figured they’d be a fun team this year. It’s been more than that — I’ve been watching the Wolves games this year every time I get a chance. I hope they keep building well for you guys, if they do the Wolves are going to be an awesome team to watch for quite awhile.
WWCD? CDGAF.
by JStymie on Jan 10, 2012 9:28 PM CST reply actions 11 recs
Rec'd
Glad your better than the other guys on the Bulls thread.
by MychalShannon1 on Jan 10, 2012 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
You guys have a great team.
Evidently, “Great” beats “Fun” in basketball.
by Boss10 on Jan 10, 2012 9:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wes Johnson, Beasley, and Pek for Rose, Deng and Brewer?
Jonny "Bag o' Chips" Flynn is gone, who's next?
Crystal Ball says Wes "The Ghost" Johnson
by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 10, 2012 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
Boozer for Love?
The player, not the fleeting emotion which Boozer fails to inspire. ;)
WWCD? CDGAF.
by JStymie on Jan 10, 2012 9:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No
Unless you make my trade above yours…
Jonny "Bag o' Chips" Flynn is gone, who's next?
Crystal Ball says Wes "The Ghost" Johnson
by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 10, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
haha, according to Blogabull, Love is overrated and hyped too much....
of course they don’t mention that Love has played 40+minutes 3 games in a row
by Legac on Jan 10, 2012 9:29 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Encouraging
Really liked what I saw from Randolph tonight. I was hopeful that Adelman would finally bring out the best in him and Beas, but 1 for 2 ain’t bad. We just really have to start winning the Torontos and Milwaukees. More than anything, I really like watching this team.
by juliancasablancas on Jan 10, 2012 9:29 PM CST reply actions
Needs to rebound better
but yeah, nice night offensively.
by Rascal Flatts on Jan 10, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
He attacks the basket more than Beas...
which gives him an edge…aggressive black holes are more tolerable than long 2 shooting black holes.
by LosAngelesTWolf on Jan 10, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
The sky’s the limit for this team imo. Experience beat us tonight. With time this team could be special.
by MychalShannon1 on Jan 10, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
Adelman HAS brought out the best in Beas
Unfortunately, this is Beasley at his best – a guy who slowly learns his role is NOT to be the primary scorer, but just to hustle and play semi-decent defense. Turning former stars into role players can be just as difficult as turning role players into stars – meaning impossible. Can’t ask Beas to do much else, except trade or cut himself.
I think Rubio is bringing the best out of him more than RA
Of course I’m not in the locker room at all, but it seems to me that Williams + Randolph have natural chemistry with Rubio
Jonny "Bag o' Chips" Flynn is gone, who's next?
Crystal Ball says Wes "The Ghost" Johnson
by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 10, 2012 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
Now that one is actually obvious the correct way
You can't...dust...for vomit.
No doubt. Best ever, in fact.
You can't...dust...for vomit.
I have a question.
Since Kevin Love is a free agent, there’s no way he can leave unless we don’t offer him the max, correct?
Has nothing to do with it
You can't...dust...for vomit.
Yeah, but since he's restricted, can't Minnesota match any offer made to him?
by Darth Paxton on Jan 10, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
No, he's not a RFA
You can't...dust...for vomit.
If he turns down a contract off
The team can make a “qualifying” one-year offer, which he can accept (or I don’t know the other option, exactly) or he can sign an offer sheet, which will never happen. When he accepts the QO and plays out next season, he’s an UFA
You can't...dust...for vomit.
So he's restricted once the QO is made
Which is after he’s turned down the long-term one.
You can't...dust...for vomit.
But basically
He will be on the team next year.
And, I don’t think he is limited to one year based on the QO
Alan Horton does oustanding work on the radio.
Good work after the game, too. Basically said that as much as Adelman may like the bench, the team can’t keep digging themselves huge holes with this starting lineup.
And all on his own...
Jonny "Bag o' Chips" Flynn is gone, who's next?
Crystal Ball says Wes "The Ghost" Johnson
by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 10, 2012 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, it's been a loud fan complaint,
But I really haven’t seen too much about it from the media. It was kind of refreshing.
Right
Horton is awesome
Jonny "Bag o' Chips" Flynn is gone, who's next?
Crystal Ball says Wes "The Ghost" Johnson
by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 10, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
He's fantastic
Their radio crew is really good with new media, as well. Alan’s twitter feed is a must follow and he and Focke clearly read the fan sites and stats sites and Alan incorporates them into his broadcast. It’s really, really good.
Alan Horton is top 3 in the business in my opinion
He makes PA look like a child
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
I guess
I was listening last night, and I felt like he was just slow reporting what was going on on the court. I guess I’m looking more for “vivid,” “descriptive” and “entertaining” from a radio announcer. It was hard really following the game
Give him a listen...
….over a few games. Really fantastic. Plus, he does it all on his own. And without relying on yelling for big plays.
He also does the whole thing by himself
He’s really brilliant.
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
+10 I really like him
The only part I don’t like is when they bring a high school coach in to chat about high school sports instead of the game during the 2nd quarter. That was probably OK last year, when they were trying to deflect attention from the bloodletting occurring on court. But this year I’m kinda interested in, you know, the game that I cannot see (if I’m listening radio).
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Jan 10, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
I'm hoping my cousin from Fertile Beltrami (Neil Steffes)...
….gets one of these interviews. He’s the coach who went up against Mpls North back in 96.
Horton is great
Pek apologist
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Jan 11, 2012 1:31 AM CST up reply actions
Was Tolliver really trying to guard Deng
Laughable.
Seriously I like him I think he’s decent. But going forward he is not a player we need in that role.
by MychalShannon1 on Jan 10, 2012 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
Beasley has to take Tolliver's role
And become a better Tolliver. Key to our whole team.
You guys are insane
Start Tolly at the 5, start him at the 3… his a sub, subs get 25 a game, max. Same with Barea. That is their role, and you can’t turn them into 35 MPG guys just cause it would be nice.
by TO12 on Jan 10, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Barea and Tolly are ELITE role players
that are being asked to basically be starters
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
Just because he wasn't hitting those open 3s you provided...
doesn’t mean you should undervalue his charges and hustle, Ricky…
I like your hair.
by LosAngelesTWolf on Jan 10, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
Need to start Luke and Barea
You can't...dust...for vomit.
Is there any evidence DWill is a PF not a SF
Looks like no post game, but still sitting at 16.2 PER with mostly a perimeter game.
The DWill skeptics make a fair point
that really who you can guard defines the position you play.
Williams is offensively a 3 with a bullet, he shoots three’s, he drives to the lane and plays on the perimeter.
If he can guard 3’s he will be able to be a 3…or at least show enough on 3’s to not destroy the teams defensive efforts
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
That's the thing
He is actually slow, even compared to a lot of 4’s. He makes quick moves, but has slow feet. No way he can guard a 3, and quite frankly, probably never will.
Yeah...Idk, plenty of slower players have been great defensively
Battier, Artest, Pierce
I don’t think he’s quite as slow as it appear you do. I also don’t guarantee he will be a career 3…I think he has a legitimate chance to make it happen. But there have been plenty of very fine defenders that would not be classified as “fast” players.
Whether Williams can channel that or not is up for debate, but I don’t think 11 games into his career it’s an automatic he’ll never be able to do it
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
He's gonna have off nights...
Remember, dude is just a Rookie
Jonny "Bag o' Chips" Flynn is gone, who's next?
Crystal Ball says Wes "The Ghost" Johnson
by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 10, 2012 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
Especially for a guy that isn't a 3
I like him, and I love love love the energy he brings. But selling high on a guy that doesn’t totally fit our team might not be bad.
Or we just build a team around our best players
and make it work.
NYK gets Chandler, Fields and Shumpert to compliment STAT/Melo (basically 3 defensive players/ball movers)
Love is already better than Stat and in many ways Melo….unless you’re getting request value for him (i.e. an under 25 young stud) I think you’re better off just getting a 2 guard and C that compliment your best players and working around whatever issue might rise.
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
Gerald Henderson wouldn't be a bad start ps ;)
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
Lol, you worked that in well
But NYK has star SF/PF players, who can shift to PF/C if need be, with compliments at the 2 and 5.
We have PF/PF who can slide to the PF/C if need be (that’s Williams/Love, respectively). Our next star being Rubio at the 1. We need compliments at the 2/3/5. Williams and Love’s low versatility is our main problem. Or actually, our main problem is the shitty rest of our team, but their low versatility limits the ways we can solve the other problems.
Who does Carmelo guard though?
It’s not like NYK counts on him for any defense at all.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Williams is as good of a career defensive player as Anthony…which isn’t very good.
I’d say Love and Williams can shift from 3/4 to 4/5 pending on the matchup.
if we had drafted Curry in 2009 would we look to move him because he and Rubio aren’t a great defensive tandem? I don’t think so. I think you just make it work with your best players…again unless there is a requisite trade for a young stud that better fits our team
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
You are right in the defensive idea
I just think Will doesn’t have a 3 game. He can drive (kind of, when it’s clear already) and shoot, but he isn’t a 3. He game is a lot like Love’s. Anyways, let’s try it out and see, and I think 4/5 has some feet, but I really doubt these 2 can play to their full potential together.
Starting Lineup....Rubio, Ridnour, Beasley, Love, and Randolph.
I like Derick Williams but he is still learning and his energy is great of the bench, so Beasley should still start until Williams get more experience.
by Legac on Jan 10, 2012 9:35 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I would not give beas anymore minutes
all year
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Jan 10, 2012 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
Need to ditch him tomorrow if we can.
by MychalShannon1 on Jan 10, 2012 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
Buy him out
Kick him out of the league. Remove all his tattoos and give him a night shift at Denny’s.
JUST KIDDING!
Then we would have nobody to play the 3. Good idea!
Legac's right. That's the lineup.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
Unless we can flip Beas/Luke for a legit 2 guard, obviously
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
I wanna keep Luke I think he’s a good backup PG that can put points on the board when needed.
by MychalShannon1 on Jan 10, 2012 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
I do too, but....damn they need something out on the wing.
Still holding out hope Beas is that guy, but I think I might be in a shrinking dingy thinking that.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
And I think Beas alone isn't gonna get that wing; Luke+Beas could get us that.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
How about Wes and Beas? And throw Pek in if need be. The thing about Luke is we know how good he is. If Malcolm Lee can do what Luke does then I’m cool with trading Luke.
by MychalShannon1 on Jan 10, 2012 10:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think teams are going to take all of our crap
Jonny "Bag o' Chips" Flynn is gone, who's next?
Crystal Ball says Wes "The Ghost" Johnson
by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 10, 2012 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't see anyone point this out...
but the Wolves only committed 11 (ELEVEN) turnovers. To the Bulls’ 18, no less. This is why we had a chance and got back into the game.
Overall, we played very well. The law of averages said the Bulls wouldn’t get the lucky bounces all game….They’re simply the better team. But we played very well.
It's like whack a mole
We solve one problem and another one pops up. Man, we’ve seen some damn good teams early this year – Miami, Chicago, and OKC.
by Rascal Flatts on Jan 10, 2012 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
This was a good game.
But playing well and almost beating good teams at home is not the sign of progress we should be looking for from these guys. I think we all can be pretty sure they’re going to do that almost every time.
I’ll judge this year’s Wolves on how they perform against mediocre and bad teams. They need to start playing well and winning those games. It makes no sense that they can play like this against Chicago, Miami, OKC and Dallas but lose to Cleveland and Toronto.
by LoveTo on Jan 10, 2012 9:38 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
This
Or, of course, beating good teams.
You can't...dust...for vomit.
Ya, kind of
But you still have to take positive away from this game. Especially for a non-playoff team. I mean, ya, we needs wins, do this do that, but it really isn’t so cut and dried.
Shoot .550 from three
and ride the best PG in the league? Yeah, that’ll work for us.
I don't think Rose is the best PG
He is the best ball dominant SG-playing-PG right now. But for running a team? Not the best.
Do you see how often Rubio gets his hand on the ball?
Makes up for any TOs he makes. What a player.
You can't...dust...for vomit.
by twinstalker on Jan 10, 2012 9:39 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Great point.
I think he had 5 TO, but 4 steals and at least that many more tipped passes.
I can live
with TO when he’s also getting assists.
Rubio’s probably never going to be a low turnover player with his style and the amount of usage he has, but if he’s getting 10+ assists, we can live with the TO.
I actually think he will be a very low TO guy
4 assists/TO probably. He is just figuring out the quickness of this league and the limitations of his teamates.
Despite his flair (and this is a really common misunderstanding) he plays really sound ball, and makes really good decisions.
Wolves out rebounded 47-30. That's the killer right there.
by Legac on Jan 10, 2012 9:40 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
This
Rubio was 2nd on the team in boards with 4. Can’t get out rebounded offensively when they shoot so much better than you on the night.
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Jan 10, 2012 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
That's why AR
really didn’t have a great game, despite the nice performance offensively.
by Rascal Flatts on Jan 10, 2012 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
That's why I'm not sold
First off, he has skills no one else has, and our lineup is so limited, we need his game. But, he has so many holes, and takes a lot of bad shots and makes boneheaded plays. I’m not sold on him getting a ton of minutes.
Randolph's rebounding:
Career 16.3% Total Rebound Percentage or 10.7 Rebounds/36 minutes, if you prefer. He’s a fine rebounder, and more than adequate if he’s playing next to the best rebounder in the league.
My twitter: www.twitter.com/HogeJ
that's why I didn't say anything about rebounding
With Love we almost always have an advantage. But he takes really bad shots, doesn’t pass any better than Beas, and doesn’t play smart ball.
Again, he is a warm body with talent, so he gets minutes with us, but I am really no were close to being sold on him.
Randolph passes worse than Beasley
but is incredibly efficient scoring
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
Follow the post chain
Relac complains about being outrebounded, Rascall Flatts blames AR for it, and you say that that is the reason you’re not sold on him. Maybe you didn’t mean to, but you kinda did. Regardless, consider my post a comment on Randolph’s rebounding ability for anyone who would doubt it based on this game, whether or not you count yourself among that group.
My twitter: www.twitter.com/HogeJ
Hm
Well I see your view, but I meant AR just is so far away from having complete game that it makes it hard to watch.
And I’m being totally honest, I have never paid 2 cents to any comments about a Wolves player with poor rebounding, because Love either steals or makes up for their low boards.
Anways… cool. AR does some stuff OK. Go Wolves.
How would this look at center?
Amir Johnson.
You can't...dust...for vomit.
Just anybody that can compete on the glass.
I think it would make a world of difference, especially when KLove is behind the arc on offense.
by fanslaststand on Jan 10, 2012 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
I don't rate him to be honest
If we are going to be thinking about new bigs instead of wings, i’d rather have someone who can score points. Love can handle rebounding most of the time.
Harsher Than Scissors
I think this season has proven we can't live off Love's rebounding alone.
Toronto had a ton of second chance opportunities. So did Memphis and Cleveland and so on. Going into tonight, the Wolves were 21st in opponent offensive boards. It’s a real problems. It’s just flown under the radar because of the bad wing play.
How about this
Anthony Randolph
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
But since you bring up Amir Johnson
I’d give up a future first/Ridnour/Johnson and the cap relief duo of Beasley and Randolph for Johnson and Derozan
this deal would only get done if Tor views Johnson’s contract (5/40) as too much money for a guy like that
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
More Rubio gushing
I thought he’d get destroyed on defense by the strong quick point guards, but he has a knack for being able to stay in front of them. It’s not foot quickness per se, it’s more like foot efficiency.
You can't...dust...for vomit.
Watching Rubio guard Rose...
I think he knows when he’s guarding someone who is flat out faster than he is, and tries to compensate by putting on pressure without over committing. e.g. rather than go for a full steal, he seemed content to take a quick poke at the ball with his arm speed, but then immediately take a fast step back so he would be less likely to get burned. If he knocks the ball away, there’s always a chance someone else can grab it, and if not he took some time off the shot clock. Rubio’s best strength is that he seems to have a good idea of his limitations.
Right now he just needs a bit more synergy with some of the active players – seen in plenty of games where he threw the ball away when someone cut, because he thought they were going to drop back. That will come with time.
WWCD? CDGAF.
@stymie
saw your blog but to compare boozer n love?? REALLY??
The dudes don’t even count for dat love is playing a back-to-back-to-back
by Souvik Roy Chowdhury on Jan 10, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
In all fairness..
I don’t think any team can really call that a factor this year, because every team is coming off tough stretches. One of the biggest stories among Bulls fans has been about how Thibs has been pushing some of the starters (primarily Rose & Deng) almost 40 minutes / game. Everyone is going to be tired this year.
That said… Boozer is only averaging 29.0 minutes per game on account of getting benched for poor play. People are knocking Love’s defense (I haven’t watched him on D closely enough to see it, but I can’t imagine him being that much worse than Boozer), but Love seems to bring a MUCH more consistent offensive presence to the court. You never know what you’ll get on a given night from Boozer. My only concern about Love would be how he’d adjust on a team where he’d likely see a drop in possessions per game.
WWCD? CDGAF.
We gotta win some games
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Who says no
Beasley/Johnson/Ellington for Gerald Henderson and cap filler
Wolves obviously shouldn’t say no
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
How about this...
Dump Wes even if it means you amnesty him.
Overpay Wilson Chandler when he comes back from China.
He’s the perfect fit for this team. Not a big ego. Team player. Can drive and shoot. And defend.
by Rodman99 on Jan 10, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd be down with Chandler
he’s very slightly above average but good and tough
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
With Rubio he'd be great
What we need is a guy who is well rounded, not a guy who is one dimensional.
I think he’d be an awesome fit, and someone we wouldn’t have to trade a bunch of guys to get. And he’s 24.
Of all my trades Chandler might actually be the most realistic option too
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
I don't like the Beas/Elly/Wes trade
and not because of talent, but because we give up 3 wing players for 1. And then we have even less bodies to play wing.
But I’d love a Chandler signing.
I get your point
but wouldn’t you rather have 1 + wing who is reality consistent in Henderson as opposed to 3 guys who you have no clue what you are getting?
Henderson has been playing 35 a night for Charolette and doing so with moderate efficiency.
I think this trade is possible because Cha lacks overall depth, especially in the front-court so they are one team that Beasley might be an attractive fit for.
Remember we get Lee back too…so our wings would go from Beasley/Wes/Ellington to Henderson/Webster/Lee
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by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
Ya I guess
If you can confidently write in Lee and Webster. I mean shit, I am so over Elly, Wes and Beas it is not funny. As long as we have guys who can step on the court it won’t make a difference. And this is a weird feeling, but I’m not so sure Henderson really is enough of an upgrade over any of those 3 to make it worth it.
On a very different note
I love the ‘z’ scrolling option. Scrolling game threads after the game? Awesome. Even better after a win, but still…
He's a huge upgrade over those 3
he’s not an insanely great 2 guard. But he’s excellent defensively and has been getting to the line quite a bit the past 40 games or so for CHA.
He’s got a broke jumper, but is competent handler.
He’s a very solid player. He’s not gonna win us the title by himself. But he is the kinda 2 guard that makes starting Williams and Love a more viable option and that might ultimately be our best way to a title
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by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
I really want a trade for JJ Redick.
Rubio-Redick-Webster-Williams-Love as a crunch-time line-up for the second half of the season, please.
Reddick would be great
basically a bigger Ridnour
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by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
Redick would be perfect here.
As would….so many other 2guards.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
Any legitimate 2 guard
would probably give us a 5 win boost in the W/L column
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by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
I'd love JJ
Of all the guys that are reasonable options, he would look so good in our rotation.
unless it's injury related, i disagree
guy has big league ability and lots of confidence in his game.
I don’t think that necessarily equates to all-star…but if he’s 100 percent healthy and we don’t make a move I think he has a legitimate shot to start at 2 this year
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by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
That's great and all, but the same things were said about Wayne Ellington.
Expecting solid performance out of late 1st-rounders and 2nd-rounders is just a recipe for disappointment. I’m not saying there’s no chance he plays well; but penciling him in for any kind of production seems like a bad idea.
I’ll start believing Lee will be any kind of good once he plays any kind of good.
Me too
And those guys (late 1st/2nds) tend to take longer to contribute. Again, another body in the roto can’t hurt, but thinking Lee will do much more than we already have might be a strech considering the limited time he has had so far this season.
In all fairness, I didn't say those things about Elly ;)
I’ve always had a curious interest in Elly…but when we drafted him I did not like his game nearly as much as I like Lee’s
Also Lee is basically the exact opposite of Ellington. Great ball handling, passing, driving, and defensive skills
He’s gonna be a very solid role guy.
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by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah after Denver spent all that money on Afflalo
We may be able to snag him. But he’ll get a lot of attention.
He will, but how many teams
will have cap room and be more attractive?
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by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
Let's hope none
That’s why I was saying we go amnesty Wes. Take that salary and our mid-level and we have plenty of dough. Doubt Taylor would be that bold though.
Idc how dejected people may be (if at all), all I know is that I wanted that game so bad.
But I’m not heartbroken in the end. To fight back the way they did gives me hope. Past several years they would’ve just rolled-over at the 24 point deficit and held on to that for the remainder of the game.
Loved seeing some fight from everyone tonight.
I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...
3-7 1st 10, at least 5-5 next 10
My best case was 5-5 and worst case a non-competitive 2-8. So, they played somewhere in the middle.
Next 10:
@NO
@Atl
Sac
Det
@LAC
@Utah
Houston
@Dallas
SAS
LAL
Gotta go 5-5 at least — they should be competitive in all of them. None of the top 4 teams (Heat, Bulls, Thunder, Blazers).
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I want 7 wins out of that.
(shrug)
Gotta aim for the stars, right?
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed.
4-1 at home (L to SAS or LAL); 3-2 on the road (Ls to Dallas and somebody else).
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by ChicagoViking on Jan 10, 2012 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
I mean, I would have loved more wins
And moral victories were last year, but we really played and pushed some of the best teams in the league. Let’s really get it done on this next stretch.
Yup.
I want the playoffs.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
I was there after the SA and Dallas wins.
But the Cleveland and Toronto games brought me back down to earth. This is a scrappy, entertaining team that will compete almost every game. But there are exactly two consistently good players on it and no average wings.
I’m hoping for 25 wins, which is quite an improvement in a shortened season, continued excellence from Love and Rubio, growth from DWill throughout the season, and a deadline trade for a wing player.
If all that happens, I’ll be really jazzed about playoffs and stuff next year, after a full offseason and training camp under Adelman.
I think we get a lineup/rotation change starting Friday
I’m guessing Tolly and Rubio become starters for sure….maybe even Williams
and then Randolph/Ridnour/Barea are the first bench options.
Also Kahn hinted that Webster would be back soon…on PA last week at least
Once we get better lineups/rotations I think we have a legit shot at finishing .500 from whatever point the lineup changes
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by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed, the starting lineup's gonna get switched up next game. Dunno who's gonna be put in besides Rubio, but it's gonna get switched.
And I still think the playoffs are in reach. We’re not THAT deep into the season yet. A good run will put us right back in the mix, after the switch.
Or so my drunk mind tells me.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
Indeed it does
My problem with Rubes starting (and it’s not too big of a problem) is that Williams really needs him to do much scoring. And at the same time, it is a pretty big stretch to start Will. You can go small later in the game, or play Will at the 3 for certain matchups, but to straight up move Love to the 5 and start Will… it’s an iffy proposition.
Although let me say
Rubio needs to start. I’m just skeptical if it will help or hurt the overall rotations of the team in the process.
I think you start
Love/Williams/Tolliver
Tolly gives you the versatility defensively to hide Williams on the worst player in the front court
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by VoodooMagic on Jan 10, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
I was gonna rebute, in some form
But it’s such a crap shoot. I’m sure you are right, but that is a really shitty defensive line. At the same time, what else do we have? Our lineup just seems so thin. It comes down to Darko 12 minutes here, Williams 30~ish here, Tolly, Adolph… just depends when you want to see them.
Can you imagine...
…the pick and roll nonsense that would have been happening at Target Center with Curry, Love, and Rubio? Oi. The World has been deprived of one of its treasures.
Mr. Glass ankles would have looked really good
Cheering 2/3 of the pick and roll from the bench.
Dude....stop bringing up Curry.
It’s…..ugh.
It’s so painful now.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
Are you still auto-erotic asphyxiating yourself here? I can't tell.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
Already did.
Take THAT!, David Carradine.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 10, 2012 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
I think 4 wins there is a reasonable expectation.
In the first five: Road at Atlanta and Clippers will be really tough. SHOULD win two of the Hornets, Kings, Pistons games (but they could lose all of them — they seem to suck against teams at their talent level).
The next five is kind of brutal. I can’t see them beating the Spurs or Mavericks twice in a row. The Lakers are the Lakers. I don’t feel super confident in either the Houston or Utah games, although they’re capable of winning either.
If they beat New Orleans, Sacramento, Detroit and either Houston or Utah, that’s an okay performance in that stretch.
4 low, 7 high; that's the range for me
another 3-7 will be a let down. Gotta show some improvement on the W side
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by ChicagoViking on Jan 10, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
This reeks of predicitions from last year
where we would predict .500 for a stretch of 10 games, and would lose all 10
Jonny "Bag o' Chips" Flynn is gone, who's next?
Crystal Ball says Wes "The Ghost" Johnson
by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 10, 2012 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
Yes it does.
For all the Ricky awesomeness, this whole season basically reeks of early last year. Switch Love’s breakout with Rubio’s, and it hasn’t been too dissimilar.
(This sounds more pessimistic than I am; I am infatuated with Rubio, and the Dallas and SA wins wouldn’t have happened last season. But the Wolves really really need to just start beating the mediocre teams more consistently. Those TOR and CLE losses are huge dampers.)
Your final point it correct
But the way you got there was really depressing.
I had that thought
But then I totally ignored it.
The Chicago Chapter saw the game at Browstone Tavern
Thanks to gastrovan (and lurker wife) and Mark Blunt.
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What I learned tonight
The Bulls are that good. Able to build a lead, lose a lead, and then step on the gas late again to pull away. We didn’t lose to a good team playing bad. We lost to a very good team playing pretty good. A moral victory? I suppose.
Love is a bit tired, not as hot as before.
Rubio is still playing well.
Our best SG is Luke or maybe JJ.
Randolph is our best non-Love C option.
We need Martell, Lee, Miller, and Beas back just to lower Wes and Darko’s minutes even further if for no other reason.
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Absence makes the eart grow fonder
-Beas
/tear tattoo
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