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I don't sense that much of the CH community is as frustrated as I am in regards to the TV broadcast schedule, so I might just be overreacting. That said, I find this completely unacceptable. Timberwolves fans have just endured two of the most agonizing and pathetic years in the history of pro basketball, then had to try to stomach a ridiculous labor dispute between equally arrogant and detached from the public parties of millionaires and billionaires. How does the team reward us? By taking 14 games of the SHORTENED NBA season off local TV.

I'm pissed.

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Did you know that every single Milwaukee Bucks game is on local TV in Wisconsin?

It's true.

According to this survey. MSP is the 15th largest media market in the USA, MIL is 35th. Toss in the fact that the Wolves are just a flat out more popular and more buzz worthy team right now and explain why that team can give their fans every single game and ours takes away 14 of them? Glen Taylor has been given a cash flow increase from two sources, the NBA players and the big market owners via revenue sharing. I have not seen his financials, and by no means am I saying he's raking in $$ with the Wolves, but he is in a better spot than he was a year ago, and as the chairman of the NBA board of governors, he knew he would be. I was so worked up over this earlier this week that I actually emailed and called the team. I left Ted Johnson (Wolves CMO, who I was transferred to when I called) a voice mail calmly requesting a reasonable explanation. I believe he attempted to call me back, but I missed it and he didn't leave a voice mail. Rather than call him back, I sent him this email:

Good Afternoon Ted,

Earlier today I left you a voicemail regarding the TV broadcast

schedule. I think you just attempted to return my call, but I am at my
office and unable to answer my cell. Rather than engage in phone tag
with you (I'm sure you are very busy) I would very much appreciate a
response to this email.

My basic question: After a very hard to stomach lockout in which the

small market owners clearly received a cash flow increase from both
the players and fellow owners (through rev sharing), why should fans
be rewarded by being denied the opportunity to watch the team for 2
consecutive (plus more later this year) road games? I understand some
home games to help the box office, but road games? In 2012? When FSN
now has another channel? I find that unacceptable. I've been a die
hard, but I know many casual fans are trying to jump back in, and I
don't see how you can build the fanbase by doing this. I know
production costs are high and ads don't sell easy right now, but non
TV road games are still tough to understand.

1. Why aren't all road games on TV? Just production costs? Can't be a

hockey conflict every time.

2. Is it possible to add to the TV schedule mid-season? Will you?


Thank you for your time, I just want to watch your team.


Also: Expect to hear this alot this year from fans and media.

I sent a similar email to the team via their "contact us" page on timberwolves.com. I have not received a response to either.

I will admit the following:

I have no idea how much of this is FSN's fault, I'm aware they have contracts with the Wild and Gophers, it's possible the Wolves could not get some games on due to the networks other obligations (although they do finally have a second channel now).

Despite the recent buzz, I have no doubt that production costs outweigh ad sales. Tough, take the hit, this is the Pros.

Some of the weaker home games would be more understandable, I realize that the box office needs some help. No road game should ever be dark in 2012 after a lockout in my opinion.

Assuming the team stays popular this year (I think it will) this will be a bigger story as the year goes along and more games are dark. In the last two years we have missed Kevin Love's 31/31 game and Ricky Rubio's first NBA start (crappy game as it was). Will we miss a 20 assist game from him as well? I find that insulting as a fan, and I want an explanation from the team.

Am I getting too worked up or is this not insane?

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I was excited to watch the Wolves this weekend, and then I check the schedule and neither game is televised. It makes no sense when you are trying to rebuild the fanbase with an exciting young team to not televise weekend road games. It’s one thing if it is at home, but on the road!? They come back home this next week and have them on television. It seems like they have it backwards.

by .mnqwerd on Jan 14, 2012 2:43 PM CST reply actions  

Cant believe it either

my frustration level with this TV dilemma is getting pretty high. The gamecast isnt doing it for me. I certainly hope that they are making an effort to correct this especially for the road games. Get it together Wolves

by TheGraffe on Jan 14, 2012 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

I agree it's not ideal

If you really want to stick it to them over this – find something else to get interested in.

by fanslaststand on Jan 14, 2012 3:16 PM CST reply actions  

?

In what way am I “sticking it to them”? I’m a fan of the team, the whole point is that I want to watch their product, it’s not okay to express frustration over this and ask for an explanation?

by MoreJuice on Jan 14, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I think that's play tho.

Find something else to do that night. 7 Billion other people did not watch Wolves – Hornets.

by fanslaststand on Jan 14, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol

Alright. You could say that about any event ever, that’s not the point at all. I’m also not just talking about that game, 13 others are off TV as well. 21% of the season. I can obviously “find something else to do those nights” that doesn’t mean it isn’t a problem.

by MoreJuice on Jan 14, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

What about like whittling sticks and twigs?

You could also try chewing straw, looking for 4 leaf clovers or planting apple seeds across the continent.
These are just things I thought of right now while sitting here. Each would have been far more entertaining than that basketball game.

by fanslaststand on Jan 14, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Listen to me Juice. Don't make the same mistake I did w/ the KG teams.

We had it all, man. We had it all. Great announcers, hometown coaches, the best 2 way prospects out there in KG and Marbury…..And we lost in the first round of the playoffs 7 years in a row (NBA Record). The 8th year we went to the Conference Finals and those players couldn’t give a damn about trying to get to the finals the next year.

Go ahead if you must. Go all in if you have too. But don’t say I didn’t warn you.

by fanslaststand on Jan 14, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha well that is another point entirely

Of course I know I’m going to get kicked in the nuts. I remember those days too. Although I don’t really care about hometown coaches, just want good ones.

by MoreJuice on Jan 14, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions  

When the Wolves aren't on local TV(or blocked off NBA TV for that matter)

I feel no guilt what-so-ever of using illegal feeds. I suggest you do that yourself, I’ve sent similar emails in the past with BS scripted responses.

by WildWolves on Jan 14, 2012 3:28 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I have no guilt either

But that’s not the point, those things are a huge pain. I should be able to watch every road game in my living room.

by MoreJuice on Jan 14, 2012 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I just hook my laptop up to my TV via HDMI..

Some feeds look better than NBA TV anyways. And its in the living room so works out.

by WildWolves on Jan 14, 2012 3:39 PM CST reply actions  

I absolutely share your frustration.

I’m a season ticketholder, so I guess that means I should just suck it up and shell out the additional $169 for LeaguePass but I really don’t want to. I did LP broadband last year, but it was a pain in the ass and didn’t work very well. (We tried to hook it up to the TV and had problems, my laptop screen is small and not great, etc.).

I do not spend every evening watching basketball—I generally supplement my Wolves with whatever nationally-televised games are on TNT, ABC/ESPN, or NBATV. I’d even pay for the damn Wolves games a la carte (which I believe was discussed on a thread earlier this season).

I haven’t made any calls, but am going to talk to my ticket guy and go from there. I ‘d like to think they’ll add more as the season progresses. In the meantime, I’ll be looking for a good bar with LeaguePass.

by PDGirl on Jan 14, 2012 4:27 PM CST reply actions  

(at least the radio broadcast is really good….not the same, I know)

by PDGirl on Jan 14, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Horton is really good

But you obviously can’t stream that and I don’t really have a traditional radio in my house.

by MoreJuice on Jan 14, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

You can listen online, absolutely

It’s better than a sharp stick in the eye, for sure. Unfortunately, if you’re watching an illegal stream (say, on your TV or a different computer), it usually won’t match up to the radio (ie- like ~30 sec off), which is frustrating.

by PDGirl on Jan 14, 2012 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure even with League Pass you wouldn’t be able to watch the Timberwolves unless you were out of the Metro region?

by Skoaldybi on Jan 15, 2012 8:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Way out

Mankato and Rochester and St. Cloud aren’t out enough.

Follow @canishoopus

by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 15, 2012 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Can't you get the opposing-team's feed on LP though?

I thought that’s what all of the non-illegal streamers were doing last night? (Or else I guess I just don’t know where folks are geographically located).

by PDGirl on Jan 15, 2012 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

sadly, no.

both team’s feeds are blacked out with LP if the game is broadcast on a local partner.

...I've been drinking...
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by losDelFuego on Jan 15, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

So there is literally *no* legal way to watch, for example, next Sunday's game against the Jazz...

if you live in the Twin Cities, because it will be blacked out on LP?

(Sorry if I am seeming like a moron…wasn’t sure my question/point was understood).

by PDGirl on Jan 15, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

one solution...

Google incognito with league pass.

by bringbackbrewer on Jan 14, 2012 4:52 PM CST via Android app reply actions  

also...

if you have a 4g phone and stream through pdanet you get no location restrictions.

by bringbackbrewer on Jan 14, 2012 5:21 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

So you're saying an incognito window in Chrome

will prevent League Pass from knowing your location so Wolves games can be viewed in the TC? I’m skeptical, but interested.

He's Ricky Rubio. He’s not like anyone else.

by Facial on Jan 14, 2012 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

As am I

about to plunk down $99 for an Apple TV hockey puck so I can stream from the computer to the TV, but I’d much rather be streaming LP than Euro-8bit.

Yo ho ho and a FirstRow stream!

by TMiss on Jan 15, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

No

LP gets your IP. You have to try to use a proxy.

by TheeJohnnyP on Jan 15, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Incognito works for me.

When I am using my home internet. When Im away from home I also stream through my 4g phone.

Both work on blocking IP address for me.

by bringbackbrewer on Jan 16, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Nevermind...

I just checked. Only streaming through my phone will let me get LP on my computer. The only games I get on incognito are the non local tv ones.

by bringbackbrewer on Jan 16, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

The lack of local coverage kills

Especially with some of the junk local channels in the area that are only showing re-runs of shows that were cancelled in thier first two seasons that nobody watches anyway.

by silentfan on Jan 14, 2012 8:31 PM CST reply actions  

Juice you echo my sentiments exactly...

I talked to my rep this week (yeah, I’m a season ticket holder) and didnt get a good explanation. He just said it was disappointing too. I have kids. Internet doesnt do it for me. Because I have a young family…we watch EVERYTHING on DVR. I dont miss a wolves game but I’m usually watching it starting at 9:30 when everyone is in bed. Its very frustration. I see they have another big stretch..always on weekends…when they dont have any televised games.

"But this one goes to eleven..."

by kingsxman on Jan 14, 2012 10:26 PM CST reply actions  

Wild and Gopher hockey have to play a big part

Especially on weekends because of the Gophers. STILL, there are too many games when no conflict exists. I’m in the same boat, I have 2 kids and can’t park in front of a radio or a stream for 2 hours, I DVR most games. I couldn’t believe when I saw the Bucks thing, I figured we were just like most crappy teams in smaller markets, If I weren’t so lazy I would look up every team and see how we stack up, wouldn’t shock me if we are the least televised in the league.

by MoreJuice on Jan 14, 2012 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

part

part of it might be My29 didnt pick up any games this year. Last year, they had 10 (or so) games.

Maybe if they Wolves continue to improve and Love/Rubio are a ratings hit (dont know what FSN ratings are this year, but they have to be better than last) some of those games get picked up.

Also, i imagine in the spring there will be conflicts between Wild and Twins and Wolves

by DedicatedFollowerOfFashion on Jan 14, 2012 11:36 PM CST reply actions  

no links to illegal streams in the game posts

I’m guessing it helps access for the administrators which makes the blog better… I’m guessing. But I kind if feel like some part of their business has given an f-u to the fans. I know they could generate ad revenue at this point so the wolves are holding out for a better deal and that just ticks me off. Give me the illegal streams. If it continues like this then I’ll watch that crappy quality and delay rather than give any $$ back to this organization. I feel like I gave them way to much money and attention when they declared war on their fanbase. Now, when it’s actually worth watching, they are holding out for who knows what.
… And honestly, if they’re getting totally shafted on their TV deal, I would probably be ok holding out. But just expecting us to wait happy reminds me of buying into united we run.

by midlife crisis on Jan 15, 2012 8:18 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

I do not think this is Glen

I think this is the League which is deeply in bed with cable system operators. Stern’s strategy has always been to move regular season and playoff games to systems you need to pay to access (the difference between this and Pay Per View is negligible, imho).

None of us can fix this. The only real solution would be for Congress to call Stern on the carpet and let him know his monopoly is contingent on fan access — period. Sadly, the fans do not own any members of Congress, so this will not happen.

Yo ho ho and a FirstRow stream!

by TMiss on Jan 15, 2012 12:29 PM CST reply actions  

Both

are bookends of the same monopolistic, price fixing, fan screwing, it’s all about the owners’ pockets mentality that’s ruined the NBA.

Yo ho ho and a FirstRow stream!

by TMiss on Jan 15, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

UPDATE

Mr. Johnson replied to my email. He linked me to that star tribune story, said they are working on “bringing more games to the fans” and thanked me for my interest in the team. No real new information, but I thought it should be noted that he did respond to me.

by MoreJuice on Jan 16, 2012 1:52 PM CST reply actions  

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