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The Tracks Of My Tears (Report Card for MN Versus Atlanta)

I must say I have thoroughly enjoyed seeing the different styles CHers have used to write the Wolves report cards. They inspired me to break my from my normal monotony and add some inflection to my posts by going metaphor crazy, for better or for worse.

As consistent readers of these report cards likely know by now I am a much tougher grader than my colleagues. And now I'm only going to get tougher. The days of me giving extra credit for effort are done. Effort alone, like moral victories, no longer means anything to me because even as effort can be beneficial, it can be detrimental (i.e.- Jonny Flynn or Wes Johnson). Sometimes I think it would be better if they remained stationary on the court. So that's it, no more points for running effort. Expectations are higher, and with that the grading curve becomes more stringent. Let's get to it.

Star-divide

Rick Adelman:

Grade: A

To date I have refrained from grading Rick Adelman because it would be like Paris Hilton telling Kim Kardashian or Salma Hayek how to wear a bra. In fact, the cleavage separating RA's basketball knowledge from mine is infinitely greater than the disparity in breast size between Paris and Kim or Salma. So the only way I will grade RA is if I give him an A which is precisely what I am doing here. I may have no idea why he insisted on starting Ridnour over Rubio prior to the New Orleans game, and why he continues to start Johnson and Milicic, but he is so great a coach I just assume I'm wrong if I have a difference in basketball opinion than him. Indeed, I can't wait to see what his rotations entail when he has a full complement of players. As far as the Atlanta game is concerned I felt he did the best he could with what was available to him, and his timeouts were timely. I will give him the benefit of the doubt on the last play of the game, and assume it was poorly executed rather than poorly conceived.

Luke Ridnour: 38:06 minutes, 3-8 FG, 0-3 3 pt, 1-1 FTs, +6 +/-, 3 reb, 2 ass, 4 pfs, 1 st, 2 to, 1 bs, 1 ba, 7 pts

Grade: D+

To me Luke is like eating ice cream when you're lactose intolerant. Iniitally, it tastes really good, but if you get too much of it (i.e.-eat it too quickly) you are rewarded with a brain freeze. When Luke is hitting his shots he is an offensive asset, but when he acts as though he is the point guard when Ricky is in the game he becomes a liability and I start saying, "ow, ow, ow, ow, ow". Moreover, even though you enjoy ice cream as you're eating it (his offensive game at times), you know you're going to have to pay for it on the other end (his defensive deficiencies) because you're lactose intolerant. I, unlike some of you, have never thought Luke played even average defense. I really think he's a walking turnstile and he single handedly destroys our team defense because everyone has to rotate off their man to compensate for Luke. In addition, when he plays the point I feel the offense stagnates and rarely generates a reasonable shot. However, his advanced statistics admittedly belie these statements. His ORtg is 114 (team is 101.8), DRtg is 104 (team is 100.8), WS/48 .142, Ast % 18.7, TS% 61, 3Pt% 38.5, and he is giving you 14.5 pts and 3.6 assists per 36 minutes. Yet, if you dig deeper you realize he has an adjusted +/- of -26.15 and that his advanced statistics are ameliorated by the fact he is on the floor with Ricky quite often. This speaks to the primary concern I have with advanced statistics in that they do not fully account for the way players influence, and are influenced, by their teammates. For example, I suspect Luke's DRtg would be even better if he played with Dwight Howard. Indeed, as Luke has the worst DRtg of all the Wolves starters, I would argue that he adversely impacts their DRtgs and his DRtg is lower than it should be. Ultimately, it is because of Luke's atrocious defense that I feel he is a net negative, particularly as a starter. Today George Teague made Luke look like he was walking in molasses as he repeatedly got to the rim because Luke couldn't stay in front of him even when he gave him a 2-3 step cushion. When you compound Luke's defensive deficiencies with his inability to hit his shots today (3-8 FG, 0-3 3 pt) and his untimely mistakes (i.e.-his errand pass to Love from the corner in the fourth quarter), you realize Luke really hurt the Wolves today, particularly as he was on the court for 38 minutes. The only positive for Luke today was that he deferred to Ricky more than he normally does when they were on the court together.

Kevin Love: 40:03 minutes, 12-26 FGs, 0-4 3 pt, 6-6 FTs, +/- -3, 13 reb, 2 ast, 1 pf, 2 st, 2 to, 1 bs, 2 ba, 30 pts

Grade A-

KL is like Susan Boyle or Jackie Evancho. You look at them and you think.. eh.. but then they begin to sing and you're blown away. Better yet he's like a parasitic infection. You don't really feel what the parasite is doing to you and you don't even know it's there, but a few weeks later you wake up and your 20 pounds lighter and you have no energy because you're not absorbing your food properly because the parasite has hold of your GI tract. During the game KL certainly doesn't look like he's having a 20+ pt/12+ rebound game, but then you look at the box score and you realize… he's a basketball tapeworm. On the year his WS/48 is .250, DRtg 98, ORtg 115, TS% 57, 3Pt% 40, TO% 12.9 with a usage rate of 27.7%, and he is giving you 22.4 pts, 13.4 rebounds and 1.6 assists per 36 minutes. If I was playing NBA 2K12 against you and you had a player posting similar numbers, I would think you discovered a cheat and call shenanigans on you. I don't care what anyone says, nobody projected KL to be this kind of player. Against Atlanta Kevin had a torrid third quarter where he behaved more like an overwhelming bacterial sepsis than a parasitic infection. He displayed an array of post-up moves demonstrative of his rapidly increasing offensive repertoire. Unfortunately, perhaps due to fatigue, he faded in the fourth quarter. He took ill advised shots and had trouble passing out of double teams. Kevin is going to have to learn how to take advantage of double teams as teams appear to be doubling down on him more frequently of late. Moreover, his post defense still leaves a lot to be desired as he had difficulty with Ivan Johnson at times, and there have been several times in this game and against New Orleans where Kevin didn't get his hand up to contest an opposing player's mid-range shot. Lastly, Kevin still barks at the Refs WAY too much, and it is detrimental to the team as we often pay for his bitching on the defensive end because he doesn't get back in time. Regardless, Kevin is an amazing player and was impressive today. He receives a A-from me because my expectations for him are sky high.

Darko Milicic: 14:30 minutes, 0-2 FGs, 0-0 3Pts, 0-0 FTs, +/- +11, 2 reb, 1 ast, 4 pfs, 1 st, 0 to, 0 bs, 0 ba, 0 pts,

Grade: F

DM is like a lottery ticket. When you buy it you know you're going to lose, but you keep hoping one day you will hit the jackpot. Actually, he's worse than that… he's a slot machine because you win just enough with him (his 1st quarter against Cleveland) you keep coming back for more even though you know most people that go to the casino end up losing money. Most of the CH community, including SnP, Ocenary, etc., are smart enough that they stopped playing the slots a long time ago, but I guess I have a problem.. wait.. no I don't.. For the first six games of this season DM paid us a couple of dollars on our nickel investment as his WS/48 was .1 or higher, his ORtg hovered around a 100, and his DRtg was around 98. However, he has reverted to form as manifest in his current .016 WS/48, 85 ORtg, 100 DRtg, 18.0 TOV% with a 17.8 usage%, 45 TS%, on 10.7 points and 8.7 rebounds/36 minutes. Today whatever money we may have won playing the MIlicic slot machine, we lost and then some. He was awful defensively as he looked lost and couldn't stay with Josh Smith, particularly in the first quarter. He continues to try to block shots with his hands at his waist, and he remains inexplicably reticent to raising his hands above his shoulders. On offense he has clearly received the message that he should play within himself, but he has gone to the extreme in this regard. His trepidation on offense led to poor decisions and halfhearted shots that had no way of being converted. In addition, he appears to be scared of the ball and of doing the dirty work on the offensive boards. Couple this with the fact he was rarely in position today to alter shots, take charges, etc., and I can't find any reason to spare Darko from an F today.

Ricky Rubio: 35:15 minutes, 7-15 FGs, 2-3 3 Pts, 2-2 FTs, +/- +4, 4 reb, 12 ast, 3 pfs, 5 st, 4 to, 0 bs, 1 ba, 18 pts.

Grade A-

RR is like a bird of paradise performing its mating ritual. Before it begins, the bird of paradise looks great (his shot is decent, he plays reasonable defense, etc.), but it's just another bird. Then it starts its mating (passing) ritual and you're like.. holy shit… and all of the female birds of paradise (CHers) drop their beaks. In fact, as Peter Christensen wrote recently on CH, it's possible we're seeing a point guard mating ritual we've never seen before. To date RR's WS/48 is .153, ORtg 107, DRtg 99 (compare to Ridnour's 104), TS% 5,6 and he's giving you 12.3 pts, 9.5 assists and 4.9 rebounds per game. His only knock is that his TOV% is 25.5 which is way too high and his FT% is 74. Today Ricky continued to impress with his mating ritual as he made numerous superlative passes. He easily could have had approximately 20 assists today if his teammates could make open shots. His defense was excellent as evident in his 5 steals, and his ability to stay with Teague was outstanding relative to Ridnour. Unfortunately, Ricky made some untimely errors which contributed to Atlanta getting back in the game. In addition, I felt he passed on shots he simply needs to take to keep the defense honest, because he is as good a shooter as we have right now, and because it is often the best look the Wolves will get on a given possession. Regardless, Ricky's decisions were generally excellent today, and he deserves an A- in my opinion. The kid is an outright winner and he refuses to lose. And if you really want to see how he impacts his teammates and the games, consider the fact that the +/- of all the bench players was routinely positive in all the games Ricky did not start, whereas the starters often had negative +/-s. However, the last 2 games this pattern has completely reversed itself solely because RR is starting.

Derrick Williams: 7:57 minutes, 1-4 FGs, 0-1 3 Pt, +/- +1, 1 reb, 1 ass, 0 pfs, 1 st, 0 to, 0 bs, 0 ba, 2 pts

Grade: D

DW is the shiny new toy you've wanted forever that you finally get for Christmas. But then you look at the instruction booklet and it looks like more work to figure it out than it's worth. So you put it aside until you have enough time and motivation to figure it out, and just play with your other toys. Finally, you break down and you sit down to figure it out, and suddenly all of your fantasies are realized. DW certainly has the tools and the look of a star, but RA is still trying to figure out how to use him, and like the toy, DW has been placed on the bench at times while RA plays with his other toys until he finds the time to really figure out how to use him, or one of his other toys breaks. To this end, RA has been playing with his DW quite frequently of late in part because of injuries, and even professed his need to use his DW more often several days ago. Unfortunately, this DW toy has looked defective the last several games with today being no exception. DW looked lost on both ends of the court today and there is a reason he only received 8 minutes of playing time. I am somewhat confounded by DW because his two biggest assets, his ability to shoot and to create an open shot, have not been consistently evident to date. Here's to hoping this is just an aberration.

Anthony Tolliver: 18:31 minutes, 2-4 FGs, 1-3 3 Pts, 0-0 FTs, +/- -17, 4 reb, 0 ass, 1 pf, 0 st, 0 to, 0 bs, 0 ba, 5 pts

Grade: C+

AT is the girl you've known for a long time who has such a great personality she starts looking hot. The girl you never thought you would date because you weren't initially attracted her. Then you wake up one day and you see her differently because she's super cool, has always been there for you, is funny, etc. Like her, AT may not have the look of a starter, but spend enough time watching him and you can't help but want him on your team. Unfortunately, AT didn't have a great game today, particularly on the defensive end where he was given the difficult assignment of guarding Joe Johnson at times. As usual AT played with great energy, but as you can see from his +/- of -17 he was a net negative for the Wolves today.

Wes Johnson: 23:08 minutes, 2-8 FGs, 0-3 3 Pts, 0-0 FTs, +/- +14, 3 reb, 0 ass, 2 pfs, 1 st, 2 to, 0 bs, 2 ba, 4 pts

Grade: D-

WJ is the really overweight girl with the gorgeous face who is a great person. The one you think would be reasonably attractive if she would lose like 200 pounds (play defense, shoot well when open, rebound, protect the ball, etc.), but you know it will never happen. Actually, maybe he's Frodo from the Lord of The Rings series. Frodo couldn't fight, run, jump, etc., but everyone was forced to put themselves in danger to protect him because he was the only guy who could apparently carry the fucking ring where it needed to go. So even though Wes appears to be useless, we have no alternative because there is nobody else at this time to play the SG position with JJB being hurt, WE having his own issues, ML being injured, MW being injured and LR having to play the point to spell RR at times. He is posting a WS/48 of -.049, ORtg 75, DRtg 103, TOV% 19, and a TS% 39.6. As such, if I were playing NBA2K12 against you and I had a player posting Wes' numbers on my team I would think you discovered a cheat and call shenanigans. Unlike the NO game where Wes had 8 rebounds and had one of his better games, he substantially hurt the Wolves and Rubio's assist totals today. He missed several open jumpers including two wide open 3s early in the first quarter. His defense was bad and he didn't contribute in other areas to compensate for his otherwise awful play. He really should get an F today, but I refrained from giving him one only because I thought Darko was drastically worse than he was today.

Anthony Randolph: 14:50 minutes, 2-5 FGs, 0-0 3 Pts, 1-2 FTs, +/- -21, 3 reb, 0 ass, 2 pfs, 0 st, 1 to,1 bs, 0 ba, 5 pts

Grade: C-

AR is like putting a quarter in the gumball machine. When you do it you have a particular color in mind (red perhaps), and you'll even settle for several others (i.e.-green, blue, etc.). However, you absolutely do not want the pink or the white one. Unfortunately, you have no idea which one you're going to get. It's the same way with AR. You put your quarter in the slot and you hope he gives you anything but a pink or white game. Today AR was more like a pink gumball than a red one. His defense was largely awful and he didn't do enough offensively to offset it. His +/- of -21 is no fluke as he hurt the Wolves significantly today as he lacks the size required to play adequate defense, and his post-up game is not as effective as it could be because he is so frail. Fortunately, his decision making has improved relative to last year, and one can hope he has red gumball games in his future.

Nikola Pekovic: 17 minutes, 3-4 FGs, 0-0 3 Pts, 1-1 FTs, +/- +7, 3 reb, 1 ass, 3 pfs, 0 st, 3 tos, 0 bs, 0 ba, 7 pts

Grade D

NP really is a bull in a china shop except a bull could probably learn to count to 3 and not move when he sets screens faster than NP evidently can. With that said NP had some nice offensive moves as he successfully uses his size to establish deep position on the low block, and is quite effective when he gets the ball there. However, he remains a defensive liability and does some egregiously insipid things. He probably deserves a C, but I'm giving him a D due to his terribly stupid illegal screens and 3 second violations.

Wayne Ellington: 30:39 minutes, 6-9 FGs, 1-4 3 Pts, 0-0 FTs, +/- -12, 4 reb, 2 ass, 1 pf, 1 st, 0 to, 1 bs, 1 ba, 13 pts

Grade B

WE is that work of art in the famous museum that makes you think, "that looks like shit, what is it doing in this museum?" Until very recently his WS/48 was negative, and it is now .02 (likely to improve with this recent game). His ORtg is 88 and his DRtg is 103. In the first three quarters of this game Wayne didn't look like an NBA worthy player as his defense wasn't great and he wasn't hitting his shots. However, in the fourth quarter Wayne looked like he belonged on the walls of the NBA as he had the type of quarter that won him his final four MVP when he was at UNC and catapulted him into the first round. Accordingly, he receives a B from me. Honestly, I would love for him to be able to replicate his fourth quarter performance, but I will not hold my breath.

Michael Beasley: dnp

MB is like the crazy hot girl. Initially, before she opens her mouth and during her times of lucidity, you love the fact you're with her. You're having an absolute blast and thinking that she could potentially be your long-term girl. But then she opens her mouth, or you find her going through your phone every time you use the restroom, or she's asking to move in with you after you've been dating for a week, or she's randomly showing up at your work to see if the nurses are flirting with you, or… you get the point. Michael's got the kind of talent where you're enamored (there's a reason he was picked ahead of Westbrook, Love, Mayo, etc.), but then he starts playing and you start to see why he was available in the first place (there's a reason he was traded for 2 second round picks). He keeps jumping around on the crazy,hot scale with his erratic play. To date, MBs WS/48 is -.03, ORtg 81, DRtg 100, usage% 25, TS% 42, 3Pt% 40, FT% 44, and he is giving you 12.9 pts and 7.0 rebounds per game. In keeping with the metaphor Michael has been a lot more crazy than hot this year. But is it possible he's just not as hot as we thought he was? EIM, SnP, etc., have recently postulated that Michael may simply be incapable of scoring the way we thought he could, and his issue may not just be one of shot selection, but may be related to an inability to routinely create his own shot. Regardless, just like guys are with crazy, super hot girls, I remain reluctant to part with MB and still hope he wakes up miraculously sane.

JJ Barea: dnp

NBA league pass: F

Once again NBA.com managed to baffle me with their ineptitude. There have been numerous games this year where my league pass feed has inexplicably cut out. Every time I tell customer support how unacceptable it is for us to pay an exorbitant amount of money to watch these games and encounter so many mistakes, they essentially blow me off. It is truly sad the illegal feeds are more reliable than the NBA.com feed.

Atlanta announcers: A-/B+

I enjoyed listening to Dominique who gave props to a number of Wolves players. It was clear the Atlanta broadcasters researched the Wolves prior to the game, and they were extremely fair in their commentary. This is in stark contrast to the NO broadcast team which should be fired immediately.

Alright guys.. that does it for this report card. Today's game was extremely painful for me as I really wanted to beat Atlanta today especially since they were minus Horford, and we were winning by 18 points in the third quarter. Please sign up to do future report cards as it is enjoyable to see the Wolves through other peoples' eyes, I am tired of seeing myself write, and my schedule prohibits me from writing these consistently. All of you are more qualified than me to write these so please don't be shy to do so. The signup schedule is below. Please choose any of the games listed.

1/16: Sacramento -

1/18: Detroit -

1/20: LA Clippers - Michael Boosalis

1/21: Utah -

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1/29: LAL - triple B

1/30: Houston -

Top Dogs/Alpha Males: None (Nobody gets this award from me if the team loses)

Goat: Darko

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Thanks bsg

Thanks for a fun read and thanks for coming up with this idea. I didn’t figure out a way to watch this one and from what I’ve read my stat-tracker impressions were pretty off base. The Susan Boyle analogy was actually decent, although I wouldn’t want to make it Love in person, one needs to think about it for a while. Also KLove is so unique that he must be a singer-songwriter not a cover artist, but now I’ve thought about it too much. I’m so down on Wes I think your analogy is an insult to overweight girls everywhere.

"pokin' the animals at the Canis Hoopus zoo"

by pastyearsears on Jan 15, 2012 5:08 AM CST reply actions  

I know, I know

I know it hurted when Atlanta got four 3P in a raw. I know. But don’t try to get them back because they hurted your proud (come on, you’re playing for T-Wolves!). Yes, I’m looking at you, Tolliver, and you, Ellington and especially you, Ridnour. The comparision to RR turns out to be degrading as LR has no sense of timing and has no idea on how to conduct a team.

Oh, loved that last shot, you know, Love and two or three hawks around him and RR alone with his hands demanding the ball.

by Meggido on Jan 15, 2012 6:06 AM CST reply actions  

Nice work.

I think the last play Adelman had prepared was something like this, with a secondary option being an open Love shooting the ball: http://www.canishoopus.com/2012/1/15/2691146/the-tracks-of-my-tears-report-card-for-mn-versus-atlanta

The problem in Wolves´ case is that they didn´t send two players to make a double screen and Atlanta defended quite well both Ricky and Love, so Love had to take that shot or risk a dangerous pass to Ricky with the clock going quickly down. I think Love was right in his decision.

What I don´t agree with is the inflexibility coaches show with the “three foul in the second quarter and you´re benched” rule. They should consider who is the guy commiting the fouls, his IQ, his ability to not foul anymore. Had Ricky stayed in the game I think Atlanta would have tried to get him in foul trouble, forcing attacks on him, what could have hurt them because Ricky is smart enough to defend without taking risks. In addition, Ricky knows now that he lost 7 mins of playing time because he tried to get offensive fouls, and that might limit his commitment to take risks in the future. Let the guy show whether he is that smart or not. Ricky has done enough to give him that credit.

by amlmart1 on Jan 15, 2012 6:23 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Hello old friend!

I agree with your analysis, but you may have linked to the wrong page.

by fanfaraway on Jan 15, 2012 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, I didn´t expect our best Spanish acquisiton!

And yeah, you´re right again. This is the link I wanted to post:

How are the law treating you? (I like how that makes you looks like being tough ;)

by amlmart1 on Jan 15, 2012 6:59 PM CST up reply actions  

The law is treating me well :)

but i don’t know that it’s made me look tough, yet!

How about you Amlmart?

by fanfaraway on Jan 16, 2012 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I´m fine.

Sending my oldest son to college next year. He´s going to Madrid, where I have some friends, including YOU!!!!!!!!

by amlmart1 on Jan 16, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

bsg007.....A+

Very creative, fair and thorough game analysis. The tough love for Darko and Wes was great, but alittle unjust regarding PEK. He’s a beast and should be awarded bonous points for his mere prescense and the fear he generates. Unfortunetly Ivan “the terrible” Johnson had not heard of or seen him play to be intimidated.

by mnsportsjunkie on Jan 15, 2012 7:06 AM CST reply actions  

Adelman played Love too much. He was dead in the fourth. So no A from me.

And it’s a pattern that is going to cause a long term problem, or even injury. No way he gets an A. Also, he switched to a zone in the second quarter when it wasn’t needed and Atlanta went on a run. Bad move. He also changed to a zone in the second half but I’d have to go back and see when. I can’t really say if that was good or bad now.

by Sci Fi on Jan 15, 2012 8:34 AM CST reply actions  

yes but if we want to win

there is really no one else you can run out there when DWill isn’t playing well.

by zebano on Jan 16, 2012 8:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Loves deserves a B-.

Little defense, average scoring production and poor decision making. Plus, he was dead.

by Sci Fi on Jan 15, 2012 8:36 AM CST reply actions  

average scoring production??!!!

30 points in 40 minutes!!

Joe Mauer grounded into double play, second to shortstop to first, ________ out at second

by GWST11 on Jan 15, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

The two plays that really hurt us down the strech

Were Luke’s turnover from the corner. The other one was Loves failed Drive to the basket. Pek had his man blocked out nicely, but instead of feeding him Klove went for a reverse layup that was easily blocked. I think Klove gets a B+ for me. I may be able to do one this week (i’ll let you know)
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Pek apologist

by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Jan 15, 2012 10:18 AM CST reply actions  

I was wondering

why you were telling us you were in a broken fish.

"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope

by Cynical Jason on Jan 17, 2012 12:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Beasly forever!

Well thats the hope.

A void? I see no void!

by gunsbound on Jan 15, 2012 10:28 AM CST reply actions  

George would have done it to though probably.

I mean Marquis Teague is projected to be a first round pick next year. If there is a George Teague with any relation, chances are he could make Ridnour slip.

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by Michael C. Boosalis II on Jan 15, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Better defense and reduced turnovers

are two signs that Adelman is beginning to have a positive effect on this team. Some of this is the addition of Rubio but I see less gimmees than last year. The team will be better if Barea can get back too.

by mr.sorbet on Jan 15, 2012 11:50 AM CST reply actions  

"George Teague is a former NFL player"

I had a mind fart while writing this apparently. Thanks for catching it.

by bsg007 on Jan 15, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Nice didnt know that

Sorry about the second post I didnt think the first one posted I must have hit back and been on an old page.

by Waucckhewww on Jan 15, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I enjoyed the metaphors

My favorites were slot machine, and Beasley=Vikki Medoza.

Side note: do 3 sec violations count as turnovers?

by Waucckhewww on Jan 15, 2012 12:11 PM CST reply actions  

Nice post, I like the Tolliver metaphor.

Also, I’m never sure with my understanding of stats, but does

On the year his WS/48 is .250

Mean that Love is essentially worth a quarter of every win? Is that not insane?

Live And Stupid From England

by JonesTheCat on Jan 15, 2012 12:46 PM CST reply actions  

that's basically correct Jones..

the other thing to remember in interpreting WS/48 is that the average is approximately .1. But yes, Love’s WS, which is among the league leaders, is ridiculous. Importantly, and just as shockingly, it is somewhat offset by the negative win shares of players like Wes Johnson.

by bsg007 on Jan 15, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

precisely right.. just as players can help their team win, players can cause their teams to lose.

The way I familiarized myself with advanced statistics initially is that I went to sites like basketball-reference.com and read the way they calculate these values and how to interpret them. It’s a good way to get a feel for advanced statistics which are so commonly being used now.

by bsg007 on Jan 15, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks, I'll check it out for sure.

Football has none of this haha, its goals and assists!

Live And Stupid From England

by JonesTheCat on Jan 15, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

soccer is my favorite sport too (although I do love American football, basketball, tennis, etc.)

I think someday we will see advanced statistics in soccer that enable one to determine how well a player possess the ball, how frequently his passes connect relative to their distance, their shot accuracy, their tackling success, etc. Baseball was the first to really use advanced statistics, but I think many of the other sports will follow suit. With that said I definitely feel advanced statistics have their limitations and you have to interpret them in the context of what your eyes are telling you as well.

by bsg007 on Jan 15, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

It is starting it seems.

Interestingly, the best, most sensible statistical analysis I’ve seen is coming from a US Arsenal blog called 7am Kickoff.

Live And Stupid From England

by JonesTheCat on Jan 15, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Caveat

quarter of a win if he plays all 48 minutes. Assuming he’s playing 40 mpg he’s providing us with about .2 or 1/5 of a win.

by zebano on Jan 16, 2012 8:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I do agree that Dwil looks lost out there at times

However my question is how do you find where you need to be without the time an experience you get from playing? Most rookies (not named rubio) start out looking lost. But teams who aren’t going to make the playoffs anyways generally play those rookies so they can get the experience to help the team in the future. Not sure sitting him on the bench is good for the long term plans of the wolves.

by Kazper on Jan 15, 2012 1:20 PM CST reply actions  

Which is why i wish they would have traded the pic to start with

Everyone knew this problem going into the draft night. Whats the point of taking a talented player if you don’t plan on using him. Hes going to just start getting more and more frustrated which isn’t good for anyone.

by Kazper on Jan 15, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

This

RA needs to decide to either play Love at the 5 for at least 20mpg or decide we are so thin at the 3 that he’s going to give DWill a shot even though he’s probably way too slow against many wings to defend them well (I have no doubt his offensive game is fine for a 3). As much as I expect DWill to figure it out, he’s redundant at the deepest position in the NBA.

by zebano on Jan 16, 2012 8:34 AM CST up reply actions  

You are right about Luke, but

Luke is not a great option at the 2. But remember that he’s better than Ellington or Johnson at the 2, because “bad” is better than “atrocious”

by Patrick Minton on Jan 15, 2012 1:52 PM CST reply actions  

He's great when he's hitting shots

Like you said the problem right now is if he isn’t hitting shots there’s no one else we put in.

by Gophers12 on Jan 15, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Good job but...

You can’t say you’re going to grade harder and then give Love an A-, at best he would get a B but if you are grading harder there’s no way he gets better then a B-. I suppose his stat line is good but I think you have to weight the quarters differently, the 4th quarter is way more important then the 1st quarter and Love sucked in the 4th. He brought nothing on offense or defense and for that quarter Ivan Johnson is the player I would rather have had.

by Gophers12 on Jan 15, 2012 2:09 PM CST reply actions  

It wasn't Love's best game,

but he scored 30 points with league-average efficiency and pulled down 13 boards while playing 40 minutes. The night before, he played 42 minutes and scored an incredibly efficient 34 points with 15 boards. Ragging on Love for this loss seems a bit much to me. He didn’t have a good fourth quarter, but if not for his first three quarters, we wouldn’t have been close enough to care about the fourth quarter.

by Madison Dan on Jan 15, 2012 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

It has to be game by game

You can’t give him credit this game for what he did last game. I’m not so much ragging on Love for the loss but more ragging on Love for the way he went about the game in the 4th. If Love plays the same way but in the 4th he doesn’t play anything 1 on 1 (if I remember right he was blocked twice and turned it over once trying to play 1 on 1 o and no field goals) and grabs more rebounds (4 in a quarter isn’t bad but he let Ivan Johnson get some key offensive rebounds) I wouldn’t say anything, I also think if he does this we win the game though.

The “we wouldn’t have been in the game” argument is a tough one for me, while I generally agree that players can keep a team in a game, the 4th quarter is still more important. If you are the star player it doesn’t matter what you do at the beginning of the game, if the game is close the end is all that matters (you can probably guess I’m not big Lebron fan).

by Gophers12 on Jan 15, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice post and great use of the metaphor

Anyone with Synergy have any idea how the wolves are shooting on uncontested 3 pointers? Seems like we are missing these way more often than we have in the past.

by Ryno78 on Jan 15, 2012 2:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Great post

Thanks for writing it, great job.

down there

by JazzyCabbages on Jan 15, 2012 6:32 PM CST reply actions  

Most great players took a few years to develop...

Though it is getting difficult to defend Wes, I swear he has the potential to be a solid piece of a winning team in his prime. I believe there is a hot shooting streak in his future and I “pray” I am not wrong. He was better last year and I hope there isn’t going to be any regression. He should improve!

by Imyourhuckleberry on Jan 16, 2012 1:24 AM CST reply actions  

Yo 007,

I’ll write the card for the Houston game on the thirtieth too.

Building a Flock. To God be the Glory. @mikecboosalisii - follow me homies!

by Michael C. Boosalis II on Jan 18, 2012 3:56 PM CST reply actions  

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