Lost amid all the Love contract talk...the Wolves exercise 2012-13 options on Wes and Wayne any day now
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Huh?
I thought they already did that just before the lockout.
Here’s Zgoda’s article at the time: http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/124716664.html
Maybe the follower cited below is correcting Zgoda, and he’s referring to the 2013/14 years?
If so, ugh.
I wonder if the typo was in this original article, and the options for Wes/Wayne were for THIS year (and hence the importance of getting them done pre-lockout).
But I have no idea. I’ve long ago stopped pretending I have a great grasp on CBA stuff, and I didn’t follow it much at all post-draft due to the lockout.
The original article was pretty clear, too.
Well, remember: The options are for the 2012-13 season. They’re already committed to all three players for this next season, whenever (or if) that might be.
I’m not on twitter, but it’d be nice to ask him about this article versus the tweet directly. Can anyone out there do it? I’ve already caved in on joining Facebook, don’t make me join twitter!
by Madison Dan on Jan 20, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
Liiiiike
the new cba wiped those off the books?? That sounds a little too good to be true. My eyes are on Jerry’s reply…
I only ever want the Wolves to draft 5th.
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by BrettAhlgren on Jan 20, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
A follower later asked Jerry:
I thought it was 2013-2014? Waste of 8+ million in cap room.why extend wes – cut your losses
And Jerry replied:
@eiamn2007 That’s a bit short-sighted, isn’t it?
My fear is the Wolves are probably more aligned with Zgoda’s thinking. Interesting guys like Batum and Asik are probably going to be RFAs this summer. If punting Wes Johnson’s “potential” for a crack at Nic Batum (who is a) much better than Johnson and b) over a year younger) is “short-sighted,” sign me up.
Why the hell would we extend Wes
my brain hurts
I hear that...
myopia can have that effect%
GMs might be idiots, but at least they are consistent idiots.
It's a leaguewide pattern
I don’t know if it’s risk aversion, or not enough teams understand understand how to evaluate early development/performance, or what… But for whatever reason, despite rookie contracts being full of options, you just don’t see teams walk away from them that often. Most of the time, when it’s not working out, the options still get picked up, but then the player takes the Hasheem Thabeet/Jonny Flynn tour through the league via minor trades.
I don’t know. An ability/willingness to take off the rose-colored glasses could be a big advantage to a team like the Wolves.
It's the simple economic idea of throwing good money after bad
and it’s amazing how many people don’t realize they’re doing it.
You have to really suck to not get these options picked up on rookie deals
It is very rare among lottery picks.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
by NBA Observer on Jan 20, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
Yes,
yes you do. Joe Alexander didn’t get his option picked up. He sucked about exactly as bad as Wes has, for many fewer minutes before his team gave up on him.
by Madison Dan on Jan 20, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
How do you know...
Joe Alexander isn’t the reigning MVP in some alternate universe where his option was picked up and he was force-fed starting minutes?
I've been to that alternative universe.
It’s awesome. In that universe, I become a billionaire by drinking absurd amounts of whiskey and trying to be funny.
Too hot to handle, too cold to hold
They're called the Ghostbusters and they're in control
Trade value
any team that’s asked about Wes would constitute picking up his rookie options.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
by NBA Observer on Jan 20, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
I really hope they can move Wes for any asset
I’d take a 2nd round pick for him at this point.
Along these lines
(and continuing my strange fascination with Zgoda’s twitter today):
mnphats Jim Bins
@JerryZgoda please shamelessly plug for my trade- Beasley for Ray Allen #iknowitiswishfulthinking
8 minutes ago in reply to @mnphats ↑
@JerryZgoda
Jerry Zgoda @
@mnphats You’d do that even if it’s a 2-3 month rental?
5 minutes ago
Facepalming…
Sometimes I wonder if he really believes some of it,
or whether he takes a certain stance because he sees these guys most every day and relies on them for stories. In either case, he has pretty reliably preached patience with our currently failing players.
by Madison Dan on Jan 20, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
There may be some truth to that
burning bridges is not a good way to get future stories.
Maybe not even just about getting future stories.
But I can imagine it’s tougher to slam a guy when you know a) he has a much better chance of seeing/hearing about it than he would a comment on a message board, and b) you’ll have to actually go have conversations with him in the future.
Still though, I'd say the most likely explanation is that
Zgoda is a solid reporter, but just not a great basketball analyst.
Some evidence in favor of this interpertation...
is that he has always been on the Love-skeptic side of things. This is consistent with the “bad analyst” theory, but not the “being nice to his buddies” theory. He seems to pretty consistently go along with the blandest variety of player valuation.
2 - 3 month rental
was he asking for us or Boston?
Jerry is a good beat writer but some of the things he says on Twitter are redunkulous…his back and forths with jon krawczynski on Twitter are cringe inducing.
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by beatsandpeasnyc on Jan 20, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
Wesley's role on this team the rest of the year.
After Beasley’s injury, they moved Wes from starting 2 to starting 3 and went with a Rubio, Ridnour, JJ and Ellington rotation at the 1-2. This 4 guard rotation has worked well enough that I’d be surprised if they strayed too far from it going forward. So, what happens to Wes when Beasley comes back and Webster starts playing? Wes’ play at the 3 hasn’t been much better than his play at the 2; he certainly hasn’t outplayed Beasley and he’s largely been replaced at the 2.
I guess it’ll be nice to dust him off for those games against the Lakers. Could hypnosis be used to convince Wes that he’s playing against Kobe every night?
The inability of most posters on this thread to think In multiple years is remarkable. You don’t throw away malleable assets like Wes and Beas becuz they start slow or have not been properly used. Especially when you’ve just added a coach who can coach and obviously thinks there is value to be salvaged. Give it time! They’ve played 14 games this season. If Adelman is still willing to give them playing time that should suggest they have more value than the blogs here can divine!
Trade Adelman
90% of the crap I say on here is sarcastic
by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 21, 2012 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
Alright! Keep your head up rhal,
I just went on a rant about all the trade talk after the Clipper beat back on another thread. I’m expecting a good thrashing tomorrow.
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