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Just Wow

I think this is the first time in history one man managed to destroy an entire city by himself. Even the Enola Gay had a flight crew.

by Auswolf on Jan 21, 2012 1:01 AM CST reply actions  

Replay of game

is on ESPN3.com

Joe Mauer grounded into double play, second to shortstop to first, ________ out at second

by GWST11 on Jan 21, 2012 1:01 AM CST reply actions  

I wanted to jump up and down

when Love hit his shot but my cat was curled up on my lap and my wife was sleeping in the next room after having knee surgery. All I could do was sit there and laugh.

by gastrovan on Jan 21, 2012 1:01 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

My heart almost exploded when Love hit that shot!!

It was like the damn finally broke. What a game!!!

Unicorns, Leprechauns, and Magic F***ing Beans!

by NYCVike on Jan 21, 2012 1:01 AM CST reply actions  

*dam

Or was it?

Unicorns, Leprechauns, and Magic F***ing Beans!

by NYCVike on Jan 21, 2012 1:03 AM CST up reply actions  

The damn dam!

"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope

by Cynical Jason on Jan 21, 2012 1:11 AM CST up reply actions  

When was the last time the Wolves pulled off a win when they're best two players struggled from the field?

This isn’t the same Wolves we’ve seen since KG was traded, it’s becoming more and more obvious by the game that this team team can compete with ANYONE.

by Magoo12218 on Jan 21, 2012 1:03 AM CST reply actions  

and without wing players

get the, help!!!

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 21, 2012 1:04 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I would if I had a vote.

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by TimAllen on Jan 21, 2012 1:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I like Wayne better off the bench

Although I agree that he’s having a nice stretch. Putting him in the starting rotation now might put too much pressure on him

JonnyRotten Flynn, that is

by JonnyRotten on Jan 21, 2012 1:32 AM CST up reply actions  

You mean start the same Wayne who isn't an NBA talent?

Wolves 2011-12: Crossing the Rubikahn....alea iacta est...... " et tu Ricky?"

by Tangerine dream on Jan 21, 2012 8:32 AM CST up reply actions  

whatever

that cult nonsense was bullshit

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 21, 2012 8:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Read the list and tell me which of the ten don't exist.

No SnP. It’s not a cult. It’s a passion. But at times it sure takes on cult symptoms. You don’t need to brow beat your thoughts into people. There isn’t a single person here who doesn’t know where you stand.
Why can’t you just enjoy the moment, or at least let others know that you are.
The constant negativity was understandable the last two years. Now it’s a downer.

Wolves 2011-12: Crossing the Rubikahn....alea iacta est...... " et tu Ricky?"

by Tangerine dream on Jan 21, 2012 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

whatever

just bullshit.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 21, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, get it.

Get the help. I don’t think the Wolves have enough to make playoffs this year, but one good wing makes this a very scary team. The difference for 20 minutes between a good wing and Wes will be 5-10 pts per game (differential).

You can't...dust...for vomit.

by twinstalker on Jan 21, 2012 1:29 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Not my point at all.

This notion that there are only two players on this team is wearing thin.

by Sci Fi on Jan 21, 2012 1:40 AM CST up reply actions  

That's literally true

But this team is thin and very weak at spots, and a win like this doesn’t make that untrue.

You can't...dust...for vomit.

by twinstalker on Jan 21, 2012 1:42 AM CST up reply actions  

That's not what he said, he just said we need wing players, which is the truth.

Watching Wes out there and having to watch pgs play sg should make that point obvious.

As far as the two players thing, you have two players that you can consistently count on on a nightly basis, on most nights they give you awesome production, can you really say that about anyone else?

by Magoo12218 on Jan 21, 2012 1:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll assume that's not directed at me

Which the comment you’re responding to is, I think. :-) Because I know I haven’t said anything to that effect.

You can't...dust...for vomit.

by twinstalker on Jan 21, 2012 1:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Ah, I see...SnP

You can't...dust...for vomit.

by twinstalker on Jan 21, 2012 1:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Regardless of whether that is what he says or not that isn't what he said in this thread he just stated that we don't have wing players, which we don't(at least not consistent ones).

Also, as much as I’m on here I never once recall SnP wanting to trade Rubio, he’s stated that this team is in dire need of wing players and that the two players you speak of are awesome, I really don’t think you can argue with either point.

by Magoo12218 on Jan 21, 2012 2:01 AM CST up reply actions  

it used to be one

before the other one got here. right?

by Open_Court on Jan 21, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

every single player

did something to contribute to the win. Such a fun season so far!

by timmyknee on Jan 21, 2012 1:04 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Absolutely

Clutch plays all around. Darko’s D was fantastic, O was gravy. Pek scored a big bucket when they iso’d for him – not just his usual opportunistic seals under the basket Ellington (a 2) held his own when we went 3 guards at the end and the clips looked to expose him with Gomes (a 4/3). Wes was looking to drive and got to the line, he hit a big 3 if I remember right.

by Open_Court on Jan 21, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Kevin Garnett vs Kevin Love

Garnett: http://youtu.be/yfVQwMl2NDI?t=6m31s

Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egCQkZ1N37Q

Joe Mauer grounded into double play, second to shortstop to first, ________ out at second

by GWST11 on Jan 21, 2012 1:04 AM CST reply actions  

Wolves offer Love 4yr max extension. Love wants 5yr "franchise" extension

Kahn: Mr Love, would you like to accept a 4 year maximum salary extension?

Love: While I appreciate your offer, my cold-fukkin-blooded 3ptr vs the clipps dictates I deserve a 5yr ‘franchise’ extension.

Kahn: You got it.

Love: Thank you

Anything else than that and Kahn should get meet Bubba in The’Hole for two weeks.

by Skat the Rat on Jan 21, 2012 1:06 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

This might not be the place for it but why would the Wolves offer the max but less years? I understand wanting him to take less money for the team but less years? Don’t you want your best player (who’s also really young) locked up for as long as possible? Odd negotiating strategy.

by mikegrand15 on Jan 21, 2012 1:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I 100% agree

Thats why, if your Kahn, you cave and give him Max5 as he wants, as opposed to Max4 as POBO has on the table as of earlier today.

by Skat the Rat on Jan 21, 2012 1:11 AM CST up reply actions  

New CBA

allows for only one player per team to be “the guy” and have a 5-year max deal. if they use it on Love, they can’t use it on anyone else (Rubio) until the 5 years are up.

It’s stupid but sort of understandable. Signing Love to 4 years gives them more flexibility.

My opinion: flexibility is worthless. You have the guy now. Keep him forever.

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by losDelFuego on Jan 21, 2012 1:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Really? I had no idea the CBA put that in place. Kind of an odd rule since it limits teams from keeping their own players (ex. Rubio doesn’t get the extra year by staying in Minny).

by mikegrand15 on Jan 21, 2012 1:13 AM CST up reply actions  

One in the hand

is worth 2 in the bush…
… regardless of whose bush we are talking about.

Taking and Making the winning 3ptr on national televsion provides Minny with more recruitement mojo than POBO+ company can ever hope to buy.

Lock this fooker up. Love+Rubio just pwned the ‘bandwagon team’ on national televsion on a game they should have lost. You can’t get that pub anywhere else.

Give Love whatever he wants.

by Skat the Rat on Jan 21, 2012 1:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm with you

The thought process could be we want Love for 4 years, because 4 years from now he’ll be negotiating an extension with a good team and a good PG. Whereas when Rubio is signing his 1st deal as a UFA there’s a chance that Love has left whether he signs for 4 years or 5 right now. If that were the case it’d be nice to have Rubio for the extra year. In other words, the FO must view Love as more signable way down the line than they view Rubio.

It’s incredibly stupid, yes… but there is followable logic.

by BeasleBong on Jan 21, 2012 1:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Uh - Minus the "get"

cause thats what you get when you mix the best wolves win in 4 year with too many cans of beer than I can remember.

by Skat the Rat on Jan 21, 2012 1:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I know - a very gutsy and risky play call

Awesome execution. Rubio & Ellington held off three Clippers, including C Jordan, blocking better than the Vikes O line all year.

But with a tie game, they just needed a layup, dunk, or one made free throw. Seems like you’d try to get something going towards the basket. Maybe that was what the initial Williams cut was for.

Cold blooded shots by Rubio & Love after struggling somewhat. Awesome, terrific game.

"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra

by Wile E Coyote on Jan 21, 2012 1:35 AM CST up reply actions  

(I should add, "in sideline inbounding plays")

(a little different if there’s 20 seconds left, as with Clips last possession. Working the ball into the paint vs a single pass from out of bounds—that’s a huge difference. The 3pt attempt usually IS the safe play call, assuming you can get a good look for a good shooter, as Adelman did.)

by deus04 on Jan 21, 2012 1:54 AM CST up reply actions  

indeed

Perhaps the reason why we were able to spring KL that easily

by dontbesomean youngfella on Jan 21, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Options

That is what Adelman gives the Wolves. If DW had broken free, he gets the pass for a dunk, perhaps. The play by DW helped to keep the rest bunched up, too.

by daaje on Jan 21, 2012 8:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I woke up the whole house when Love hit that shot. Best sporting event I have seen in years! What a blessing to finally have a fun, exciting team to root for. It has been such a long drought.

Down in the Valley

by Down in the Valley on Jan 21, 2012 1:08 AM CST reply actions  

Awesome

I love how much cheering there is in LA. Also, look at the stands…so many people grab their heads before the shot even goes in. They are Clippers fans, they know, they know.
Oh, and somebody needs to wrestle Martell to the ground so Ricky can shave that thing off his head. I vote for Pek.

He who rides a wolf cannot dismount.

by CaliWolf on Jan 21, 2012 1:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I almost flagged your post for suggesting that Martell shave his mohawk.

by mikegrand15 on Jan 21, 2012 5:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I have a feeling

that these last two games will symbolize a turning point for this team. They’ve played pretty poorly in the first half of both only to come back and win in gritty fashion.

by gastrovan on Jan 21, 2012 1:09 AM CST reply actions  

Last year we didn't win our 7th game until the day after Xmas...

to move our record to 7-24.
This is better.

He who rides a wolf cannot dismount.

by CaliWolf on Jan 21, 2012 1:17 AM CST reply actions  

Okay

61 days into last season, 26 into this one :)
This is better.

He who rides a wolf cannot dismount.

by CaliWolf on Jan 21, 2012 1:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Think about this for a second

In their (inter)national coming out party on ESPN Ricky Rubio and Kevin Love drain back to back 3s to grab the Wolves biggest win in +7 years.
That game was a war too. Those new Clippers fans think their shit don’t stink.

by fanslaststand on Jan 21, 2012 1:37 AM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Its impossible to buy that level of recruiting

Playing well in national television is more powerful than the largest cap space in the history of large cap spaces.

by Skat the Rat on Jan 21, 2012 1:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I think the proper phrase is...

“What’s that that arises from Clipper fans pants’ back?

Look like a flower

A dozen of them, really"

from our Spanish friend antrodax :)

He who rides a wolf cannot dismount.

by CaliWolf on Jan 21, 2012 1:45 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

That was great.

After hearing from those guys it made me want to go to Spain. All I would have to do is tell them I am a Minnesotan (even though i don’t live there anymore) and I am a huge Wolves fan and I suddenly have a whole country of new friends.

by Ineffable on Jan 21, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm just imagining me some

Ray Allen + filler for Beasley+Wes. It’s a dream I have.

You can't...dust...for vomit.

by twinstalker on Jan 21, 2012 1:40 AM CST reply actions  

KG as the filler?

No, no, we trade for Allen now, re-sign him in the summer at the reasonable old-guy-chasing-title rate, then KG fits under the cap at the retire-in-Sota rate!

by Neumms on Jan 21, 2012 2:14 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It has to be said

Darko!!!

Every once in a while, you see what Joe D. was thinking.

Best win I’ve seen in a while…

by Vlade on Jan 21, 2012 2:36 AM CST reply actions  

the " talking points " are an integral element of every narrative

they must be repeated over and over and over to keep the cult focused and loyal to the message.

Wolves 2011-12: Crossing the Rubikahn....alea iacta est...... " et tu Ricky?"

by Tangerine dream on Jan 21, 2012 7:56 AM CST up reply actions  

that's just bullshit

calling it a cult. pure bullshit.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 21, 2012 8:04 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

now now, in this day and age

when reasonable and informed people reach something like a consensus based on facts, statistics and close study….that’s a cult. Like science.

by rickyp on Jan 21, 2012 8:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Please tell me which of these doesn't exist here....

http://www.mindpowernews.com/BuildACult.htm

I find it bs that after the best win the team has had in maybe ever your first comment is to reinforce that negative mantra.

Did the " two man team" win tonight? No. The team won. And all of the non NBA talent contributed. Get over it SnP. The talent is better than you think and it’s trending. Adelman is a coach. Rambis is a destroyer.
There are no surprises for me in what’s taking place. They are in year three of a 5 year build. those aren’t kahn’s words, they’ve been mine. And now they are ahead of schedule.
You are going to be wrong on much of the talent here. They aren’t championship calibre at this point but they are a fun, gritty, exciting group who is trending. Why can’t you just enjoy the process? You have an abundance to offer but when your first line after this win is negative, well, frankly you seem desperate.
This win is the one I’ve been waiting for. When they finally draw the play and hit the buzzer beating, game winning shot that has eluded them. My first thought was awesome. Milestone. Mark the date. The corner is officially turned. The coach is Boris Spassky (sp). There wasn’t a negative thought in my head nor a need to express one.

Wolves 2011-12: Crossing the Rubikahn....alea iacta est...... " et tu Ricky?"

by Tangerine dream on Jan 21, 2012 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

again, bullshit

my first thought after the game was to yell loud enough to wake up the kiddies and get me in trouble with the misses. don’t tell me how to f’ing enjoy what i’m enjoying. just bullshit.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 21, 2012 9:02 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

You also have the loudest voice in this room

Maybe share some of your joy here as well. I’d love to hear you scream how great this group is competing and how incredible if not unlikely last night was and how they won without their best two playing and…

PS dumars was right about Love and Rubio.
The great ones come up big even when they’re not playing well. Last night is what clutch is all about.

Wolves 2011-12: Crossing the Rubikahn....alea iacta est...... " et tu Ricky?"

by Tangerine dream on Jan 21, 2012 9:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Just for that

I’m not going to do the Wolves at Knicks report card!

Wolves 2011-12: Crossing the Rubikahn....alea iacta est...... " et tu Ricky?"

by Tangerine dream on Jan 21, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let’s not bicker and argue over who killed who.

by Ineffable on Jan 21, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

That was a joke

Are the Wolves playing in ny this year?

Wolves 2011-12: Crossing the Rubikahn....alea iacta est...... " et tu Ricky?"

by Tangerine dream on Jan 21, 2012 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Mine was a joke as well, I was quoting a certain movie, I was hoping you would catch it.

by Ineffable on Jan 21, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know what's happening

90% of the crap I say on here is sarcastic

by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 21, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

"Rumnint has it"

“A little birdy told me”….

Wolves 2011-12: Crossing the Rubikahn....alea iacta est...... " et tu Ricky?"

by Tangerine dream on Jan 21, 2012 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I think the problem may be

that I’m reading a basketball blog and you’re reading Left Behind. This talk of “reckonings” and cults is just silly.

by Madison Dan on Jan 21, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

http://www.mindpowernews.com/BuildACult.htm

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by Tangerine dream on Jan 21, 2012 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

okayyyyy you made your point!

the best way to start a cult is to say that somebody else has started a cult and create a counter-cult.

it’s ironic that you are using the same techniques that you’re accusing S&P of using. juuuust saying.

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by davechisholm on Jan 21, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Why don't you write a fan post....

…detailing the way you want everybody to clap juuuussssst right so as to express the proper amount of joy that you feel necessary due to your own personal thoughts about the team.

I hope you are at least capable of grasping this little bit of irony the next time you link to the cult page.

Your narcissism here is jaw dropping.

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by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 21, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Right snp

My narcissism. That coming from you? And we get to read about your barefoot running and your workouts etc etc etc. OK.

Wolves 2011-12: Crossing the Rubikahn....alea iacta est...... " et tu Ricky?"

by Tangerine dream on Jan 21, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

and his recipes?!

Shame on SNP for creating content during the lockout and losing seasons! Shame! Shame on him for sharing knowledge not basketball-related! Down with the Glorious Leader!

by monkeywolf on Jan 21, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I've never told you how or what to write

I’m responding to how you write. When I thought you were too self indulged this summer I just stopped reading for a while.
I appreciate that this is your blog. I don’t know how you find the time to do all you do.
However, when things go well you are the first to remind everyone how negative we should feel. I responded to it. I’m sorry. I’ll get back in line.

Wolves 2011-12: Crossing the Rubikahn....alea iacta est...... " et tu Ricky?"

by Tangerine dream on Jan 21, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't worry snp I found

the man behind the curtain much more endearing than the Wizard of Oz anyway.. Don’t worry. I still love you.

Wolves 2011-12: Crossing the Rubikahn....alea iacta est...... " et tu Ricky?"

by Tangerine dream on Jan 21, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh my god, you're right.

I see it now. It’s too late for me, but you should get out while you still can! Sooner the better, just to be safe.

by Madison Dan on Jan 21, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

very well said

Agreed on the aspect that we are a legit team now, time to start carrying ourselves like fans of a good team.

Losing ways stick

by TO12 on Jan 21, 2012 9:37 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions   1 recs

I looked into Wayne's history

because I’d like to believe he’s turned a corner. I loved the pick when we selected him, and he seems like he ought to be a decent rotation player.

So the problem is that he’s had stretches like his last 5 games before: a couple in his rookie year and one last year. Those periods of 5 to 10 games aside, his aggregate numbers for those seasons were not good. Maybe what he’s doing now means there’s “chemistry growing exponentially” and we’ll see a lot more of it; or maybe it’s just part of the random variation we’ve seen from him for two full seasons.

Overall, I don’t know how you can watch our wing play and NOT want some kind of trade, or hope that Martell or Lee somehow fill the void. We’ve gotten a lot better, and I enjoyed the hell out of last night’s game, but think how good we could be with one more solid starter at a position of need?

by Madison Dan on Jan 21, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

The anticipation of a trade

at some point this year, to be executed by competent personnel people, is one of the most exciting parts of the season for me. I’m not wrong in feeling that excitement. Our team is coming together, chemistry is improving, players seem to be finding proper roles, etc. But that doesn’t make our team balanced by any means.

by Open_Court on Jan 21, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Missed this one, to my lament!

3 and 1/2 hour drive to the cabin last night, where there is no cable and dialup speed internet means no feeds for me. Damn!!! This is one I would have loved to have seen! Stat lines showed the Pups got the vast majority of their points in the lane, another 1/3 beyond the stripe, and the Duke hit some mid- range stuff. The Clips got the majority of there points mid- range with the rest split between the lane and 3s.
It is the sign of good coaching to have the splits on shot selection show a level of intellegent play that hasn’t happened before and that wins games against favored opponents. RA has accomplished a great amount with this young team already, I can only salivate at the thought of what can happen with more practice time and an actual preseason next year!

Great Win! Darko getting 22 in the post, most amazing !

2012 the year of Twolves porcelain extraction?

by Dogpile on Jan 21, 2012 7:16 AM CST reply actions  

"I told her it was just the Wolves breaking the door down"

Best line of the year. Purely awesome. Love your story.

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by Tangerine dream on Jan 21, 2012 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Prepare for the.bandwagoning

90% of the crap I say on here is sarcastic

by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 21, 2012 10:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Looking at my facebook last night

It’s already happening. 5+ people who I had never seen post about the Wolves before had statuses about the game. I can’t complain, though. We need as many new fans as we can get.

Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.

by nja700 on Jan 21, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, definitely not complaining

I just feel like we should all get a medal or something to signify our craziness

90% of the crap I say on here is sarcastic

by CoffeeJanitor on Jan 21, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

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