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Waiting for M&M to Heal; Video Reminders of the Wolves Injured Offense


This team is struggling offensively. Without Super Darko, the Wolves wouldn't have been able to stick with the Clippers enough for Ricky and Kevin's heroics to mean anything. Against the Jazz, we simply couldn't stick with some hot shooting from a capable division rival. Against the Rockets tonight, the same thing, we couldn't stick with the team.

It was nice to see Kevin play well tonight, and Ricky made some plays but I can't help but notice that it seems like they were forcing things. Kevin can force it inside and draw contact, that will work for him, but it's when he's forcing passes and jump shots that things get kind of rough. Ricky needs to play with in himself, when he begins forcing things he starts trying to make the 90% percentile difficulty pass in his huge bag of magical-unicorn-wizard-ball-distributer tricks that he begins to have trouble. Both of these things result in possessions leading to forced shots, or bad turn overs.

But my thought here is not that this makes Ricky and Kevin bad players. I believe it puts them in the category of "Role Stars". If that makes sense. I mean that Ricky is a potential star as a pass first point guard, and a ball distributer, while Kevin is a beast on the boards, can work the post and hit open shots. Ricky's ability makes everyone else better. Kevin's skills allow him to fill up a box score; he works his ass of and provides a good offensive option. So they have roles, roles that they excel at. Like a Ray Allen or Reggie Miller type, being Jump Shooter Role Stars opposed to a Kobe, D-Wade, LeBron, Derrick Rose, Dirk type of "Star" who had the ability to freakishly make crazy things happen in a way that leads their team to victory. I think think makes sense.

{Side Note/IDEA: many Role Stars playing together can become a champion ship caliber team, such as the Big three in Boston or Manu, Duncan, Parker with the Spurs. Then True Stars, combine with a Role star or solid team mates (Kobe, Shaq), (Jordan and Crew's) (even LeBron in Cleveland). Both can lead to some great teams.}

Currently however these two guys are the wolves offense. Barring another super Darko, Lucky Luke, Wayne Storm, Tolly Time [ect.] sighting we will be seeing these guys make these type of mistakes (my theory). K-Love and Ricky need to step up and try to put the team on there back and attempt to make any play that they think they can swing. Why? Because they are the face of the team, they are the best we have, they are the alfa males of the year so far.

So I cannot fault them for there miscues against Houston. I'm optimistic that they can continue to grow as players and may eventually grow to make better decisions in those situations. The good news is, if they could be surrounded by the right "Role Players", I believe these "Role Stars" could be the base of a very successful team.

I dare to say that some of our injured shooters could be able to fill those "Role Player" roles (if not more).

We all remember what JJ Barea can do, and we've been able to catch a glimpse of that this year.

But I want to focus on Michael Beasley and Martell Webster: M&M (not skittles sorry Beasley)

Here are some videos where Beasley are Webster show what they can be capable of:

Michael Beasley 42pts vs. Kings (11.10.2010) (via VCmysterio619)

Michael Beasley 33pts + Game-Winner vs. LA Clippers (11.17.2010) (via VCmysterio619)

Michael Beasley 30pts vs. Hornets (12.27.2010) (via VCmysterio619)

We see here, the big showings that Beasley gave us last year. He was ballin in these games, well passed the level of a "Role Player", but my point is that sometimes it seems like we are writing Beasley off as a guy who the wolves are looking to move at the dead line and criticizing him for jacking up long twos. When Beasley hits a streak he can flat out SCORE!

This also shows, really that last video against the Hornets, that he can do more than score, we see in these videos, that when Beasley's shots start to fall, not only does he get in a rythm but he draws defenders and then, on occasion, make the right play and get a guy and easy bucket.

Then in a random Youtube search after seeing Martell Webster get a nice little dish from Michael "Mr. Skittles" Beasley, I found this

Martell Webster scored 24 PTS in a quarter vs Jazz 20080105 (via iverigma)

Wow, guy can shoot. We could use that. This then reminded me of when Anthony Tolliver lit up the T-pups from three point land when he was with the Warriors, but I couldn't find that video.

But hey, Tell me those guys wouldn't be nice to have back sometime too. Be excited and optimistic about the possibilities.

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Peace, Minny T-Pups Fanatics

Poll
Which Video do you think is the most exciting to watch as a wolves fan about the possibility of these guys returning to the floor.
Beasley vs. Clippers
15 votes
Beasley vs. Cavs
1 votes
Beasley vs. Hornets
6 votes
Webster's (aka Spider Man (a nick name I will continue to advocate for)) 24 point quarter
25 votes

47 votes | Poll has closed

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Beasley vs Kobe

I remember in the old Kobe days, before they were gifted Pau, he believed every shot he took was a good shot. Beasley has the same mentality.

Obviously, Beasley isn’t in the same league, but he does have a smooth stroke, and he can hit those mid range shots that, though lower percentage, are often the shots that open up in the flow of the offense. He’s talented enough, but he has to play better defense and stay involved when his shot isn’t falling (which it seems like he’s trying to do), and he also has to just take shots within the flow of the offense (something I don’t know if he’s capable of doinng)

by midlife crisis on Jan 24, 2012 1:33 AM CST reply actions  

nice post

im really hoping when he returns beasley can adjust to the system more and really be productive he could be a great finishing option for ricky

first-worst-first?

by holymackerel on Jan 24, 2012 3:01 AM CST reply actions  

I think what teams are looking for, and have a hard time finding from their players, is consistency.

The Wolves seem to have found some consistency in Love (rebounds and offense), Rubio (distribution and defense) and Luke (shooting). Then they fall apart, and that´s why they are losing games they could have won. Nobody else is giving something day in day out (I might be missing someone or something, but you get the idea).

Considering this team is building on ball movement offense and good defense, and not in isolation offense, I think what it needs is good defenders (both one on one and team defenders), who are good offensive role players and can play off the ball in the perimeter, and/or take it to the hole inside. Also Beasly, or one of his kind, for those ocassions when their team offense is shut down, and they need to go with isolation offense.

The Wolves have the most difficult parts to get in the NBA but a good center. Now they need to put the other pieces around these ones, try their best for a good center, and it will work.

If something Kahn has showed is patience. I think he is going to give this roster a run before he decides what he is willing to cover with the pieces he has and what are the pieces he will have to look for in market. Some players might be valuable because of their chemistry playing alongside Rubio, some because of their skills, contract, development… The more spots he covers with these players, the most money he will have to expend in market.

On the other side of things, I think you may miss good opportunities when you wait too much. I have been, and will be for a while, in the “give it a try to Rudy Fernandez” campaign, because I think that is one of the most obvious ones. He might help Ricky more than anyone to get his play to the next level and, because he is in the last season of his rookie contract, there are only a few months left to make that test. If he doesn´t work, although he will do all he can to make it work because he is looking for a NBA contract, the Wolves just can let him walk away at the end of the season. After this season you have to take the risk of giving him a long term contract, what I´d do anyway because I´m a Rudy fan ;)

by amlmart1 on Jan 24, 2012 3:06 AM CST reply actions  

I'm with you Michael.. I'm a fan of Beas..

and, in stark contrast to the CH consensus, I want to see what RA can do with him. I do not want to trade Beasley at this time. I’m also hoping Webster returns healthy.. this back issue could be a lingering problem that he never truly recovers from. And yes.. I’m stoked to see what the Wolves do with a full arsenal of players.

by bsg007 on Jan 24, 2012 4:29 AM CST reply actions  

I thought by MandM

you ment Martell and Malcolm :-p

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by VoodooMagic on Jan 24, 2012 7:39 AM CST reply actions  

Well him too, but he's not as much of an offensive stud

The wolves Defense has been surprisingly solid. Unfortunately I think still might be a bit for him, prolly the reason that we gave him the three year contract.

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by Michael C. Boosalis II on Jan 24, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Watched that first video...

That was probably the most difficult route to 42 I have ever seen. Almost every shot was a toe on or near the line jumper.

by vjl110 on Jan 24, 2012 8:10 AM CST reply actions  

Looking forward to Webster's return

I have visions of him waiting in his favorite 3pt spot on the floor and Rubio getting him wide open look after wide open look from said position. Rubio needs to be surrounded with guys who can either finish at the rim or hit wide open threes at a high percentage.

Getting Beasley back will be good for our depth. I wish I could say that I’m optimistic that Beasley will end up working out here, but I’m becoming increasingly pessemistic about his chances of living up to the very high expectations that some around here have for him.

by TenderWolf on Jan 24, 2012 11:03 AM CST reply actions  

That corner 3 that is Webster's bread and butter will help a ton.

The one spot Wes needs to be able to hit 3’s from and of course he can’t do it.

by Tollysnipes on Jan 24, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I still keep remembering that Lakers game in London

where Martell lit them up something fierce. Can’t wait for him to get back on the court.

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by TMiss on Jan 24, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

whoops, by Cavs I ment Kings on the poll. Beasley had a big game vs. the Cavs last year too where I think he scored 30

and then hit a game winning layup driving to the right.

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by Michael C. Boosalis II on Jan 24, 2012 11:53 AM CST reply actions  

Beasley seemed to really do well coming off of curls going left into the lane.

I could be wrong, but I don’t remember seeing him doing that much.

Also, he was shooting .050 less then his career average. I would expect him to come back shooting better then that. At which point he will be helpful.

In this games where nothing is falling for role players, a volume scorer like him is just the ticket.

by Tollysnipes on Jan 24, 2012 11:59 AM CST reply actions  

Via the Portland Announcers

“You can’t even stop him with that crappy 2-3 zone you’re throwing out there Jerry Sloan.” – Wow that was pretty funny.

by Doug West Domination!!! on Jan 24, 2012 3:47 PM CST reply actions  

Martel has always been a 3 point shooter

with very mediocre finishing and dribbling skills, I think he’ll play just fine with Rubio. Beas doesn’t even want to set picks for the unicorn which is simply baffling. I would love to see Beasley blow up but I have a lot more faith that Martel will be useful to this club than Beasley will.

by zebano on Jan 25, 2012 8:54 AM CST reply actions  

It's unfortunate.

Beasley would excel playing offense at the 4. But we can’t have that cuz of Kevin and D-Will both are best at the 4 two, not to mention Tolliver and AR. (that’s a lot of PF). Martell is also and intriguing two position player. I feel like if he plays the two then he can’t get around anyone and becomes a scorer/cutter type of two. If he plays the 3 I feel like he can beat some of those guys (as shown by that London Game referenced above).

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by Michael C. Boosalis II on Jan 25, 2012 12:32 PM CST reply actions  

I never understand that arguement

Beasley is talented enough that he can excel at either the 3 or the 4 if he played up to his full potential. What I don’t understand is how calling him a 3 or calling him a 4 changes how he plays? I think his offense is what it is, he has a smooth shot and is capable at creating of the dribble, saying he’s a 3 or 4 doesn’t change what he can do.

by Gophers12 on Jan 25, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

it mainly changes who he defends

and how he plays on offense should (theoretically) change based on whose guarding him. Post up the 3s and pull the 4s out and drive by em…

by zebano on Jan 25, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

My rational for that argument

is that he really can take a lot of 4s to the rim, he can get around them or get space to hit his shot. This allows his offensive game to be more dynamic. When a 3 guards him, the chances are that he can’t blow by him and his quickness is just average against SFs meaning he doesn’t generate the space. He becomes “the long twos shooter” when he plays the 3. He can still be good then, but he has to learn not to settle. If he’s on a hot streak he’s gotta shoot, cuz he can just about carry a team for a week. He has to learn to take that athletic 3 into the post and beat him down there or continue to try to drive around him, on his drive to the right and find new ways to finish.
Mike playing the 3 highlights the parts of his game that need to improve. Playing the 4 would open things up for him offensively.
But I’m totally not advocating for it, it’s just frustrating that K-love, D-Will, and Beasley are all natural PFs. Kevin can play Center and Beasley and Williams, I believe can be, and can continue to grow to be great SFs.
Just wish one of them WAS a small forward, who could work to play SG. Oh right, that’s where Martell and Wes Johnson are supposed to step up.

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by Michael C. Boosalis II on Jan 25, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't wait for Beasley to come back

He is easily our most talented offensive player (not counting Rubio just because their offensive games are almost impossible to compare). I don’t think the problem with Beasley was settling for long ranger jumpers, I’m perfectly ok with any open shot as long as the player is capable of making it at a decent percentage. In the past I think his problem really was he didn’t bring much to the team when his shot wasn’t falling but I saw a few slight changes this year. I don’t think he’ll ever be the greatest defender but from the beginning of the season we could see that the effort he gave was much better and before the injury he appeared to be focusing on rebounding a little more which was good to see.

by Gophers12 on Jan 25, 2012 2:01 PM CST reply actions  

For sure Beasley caught a cold streak

and then got hurt. He’ll shoot better when he comes back. and his defense was solid, a little over aggressive at times, but solid. Yeah, and the dudes a good rebounder, no doubt.

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by Michael C. Boosalis II on Jan 25, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

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