One decisive move to make us a contender?
The Timberwolves are looking better this year than they have in a long time. We have a young dynamic duo in Kevin Love and Ricky Rubio. Love just got a new contract extension to stay with the team for four more years, but the fourth year is a player option. That means this organization has three years to establish direction and propel the team into contention, otherwise they will most likely lose one of the franchise cornerstones.
The current roster is still young and it certainly could grow up into a contender. However, is anyone still enamored with Michael Beasley's upside? Though I see some improvement at times, his shot selection is far too inefficient for my tastes. For some reason Anthony Randolph is having his minutes yanked around by Rick Adelman (I can't see the reasoning behind it while watching, but I trust Adelman's decision), which can only lead to questions about how much of our ability to contend for a championship should be relying on him fulfilling his potential. Darko Milicic is the same as he has ever been, but at least Adelman is making the most out of him. Nikola Pekovic has looked like a beast at times, but he still collects fouls at an alarming rate. Wesley Johnson looks lost on the offensive end of the court - for some reason he is afraid of taking open jump shots in the rhythm of the offense, but he'll dribble once after passing up an open 3-pointer to shoot a semi-contested 20-footer. Johnson does look decent when passing the ball or crashing the offensive boards, but it is clear he still has a long way to go before he becomes the player we thought we were getting with the fourth pick in the draft (never mind that the player we thought we were getting wasn't the player many of us wanted to get with that pick). Wayne Ellington is actually beginning to look like a competent back-up shooting guard, and not just a waste of roster space. Then there's Derrick Williams. It's too early to make a definitive call on this guy. He clearly shows flashes of brilliance and has been Rubio's favorite alley-oop partner so far. But Williams also shows some signs of being willing to settle for inefficient, Beasley-esque, mid-range jumpers too often.
What if the Wolves could set themselves up to contend immediately and into the foreseeable future? Below the fold is my suggestion for how to do exactly that. It's a simple, straight-forward two team trade that I believe makes sense for both teams. Really it would have to be structured as two separate trades with the same team, but that's just a CBA related formality.
The first trade:New Orleans receives Beasley, Randolph, Johnson, and Brad Miller.
Minnesota receives Emeka Okafor and Trevor Ariza.
The second trade:
New Orleans receives Williams, and some combination of two first round draft picks (Utah's protected 2012, Memphis' protected 2013, Minnesota's own 2013 or 2014 - we've seen that the Stepien rule is not currently in effect based on the Chris Paul trade).
Minnesota receives Eric Gordon.
The first trade could be tweaked to include either Milicic or Pekovic (I wouldn't part with both - just for the sake of roster balance) instead of any one of the other players if New Orleans prefers.
The motivation for the Hornets making this trade would be to reduce payroll long-term and collect young players and draft picks in the process. Eric Gordon is rumored to want to play back in Indiana after this season anyway, so he may be willing to play out next season under a qualifying offer to enable him to sign with the Pacers via free agency in 2013 rather than playing on a team going nowhere.
Minnesota's motivation for making this trade is to complement Love with another defensive oriented center and fill the starting roster with NBA caliber players. While I would be concerned about Gordon's desire to play back home in Indiana, I think he'd be reluctant to leave a team that is built to contend for championships for the next decade.
Minnesota would have the following roster:
C - Okafor; Milicic; Pekovic
PF - Love; Anthony Tolliver
SF - Ariza; Martell Webster
SG - Gordon; Ellington
PG - Rubio; Luke Ridnour; J.J. Barea
Would making this trade catapult the Wolves into contention this season and for years to come? Which team would balk at this deal? Would the Wolves be better off letting the kids grow up together? What say you Canis Hoopus?
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Why would NO trade with us? That makes no sense what-so-ever.
Did you forget they own our UNPROTECTED 1st round pick? And you think they would make our team better by giving us assets that could possibly push us out of the first round? That would make them giving up CP3 look even MORE dumb than it does already.
It isn't that black and white
That is obviously something they’d have to factor in. they’d have to think of it like they’re trading down a couple spots. A negotiation point, but not a deal breaker.
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by Steven Ellingson on Jan 29, 2012 10:29 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The Wolves are 2 1/2 games out of a playoff spot currently, and appear to be getting better by the game.
The trade deadline isn’t until early March this year. By then the season will be half over and the Wolves could be looking like they will make the playoffs. If that’s the case, then trading with us might cost them a few spots in the draft (like Steven Ellingson mentioned) but wouldn’t be the equivalent of pushing them out of the lottery. Furthermore, they would be getting more picks and a player, Williams, that could potentially make as big of an impact for them long term as Gordon – and he would be guaranteed to be there for years to come.
Any individual trade idea is unlikely, but some are more unlikely than others. I believe this trade idea is not outrageous.
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by ynotsema2 on Jan 29, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, and Gordon would not take a qualifying offer..
I don’t know a single injury prone guard to ever make that unwise of a decision. You always take that money when its there, and go into unrestricted FA a few years down the road. If Gordon actually had been playing in every game this season and moving forward that actually could of been more probably. They still wouldn’t trade Gordon to US though.
I think if anybody is likely to play out a qualifying offer it would be Gordon.
I think the fact he’s been injury prone so far and most teams still consider him as a potentially elite player and would offer him max or near max money makes him more likely to play out a qualifying offer – because his personal history has shown that being injured hasn’t harmed his earning potential very much. It’s the players that haven’t been injured and whose value after injury remains a question that need to be afraid of passing up long-term guaranteed money.
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I want nothing to do with ariza
Would love to get okafor and gordon though
by ackledude13 on Jan 29, 2012 10:46 AM CST via Android app reply actions
I say no. Wolves say no.
Williams and 2 1st rd picks for Gordon. No way.
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I think this is a more likely scenario.
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6008513
Lakers are struggling.
Magic are struggling.
We can help facilitate a trade, address our 2 positions of need and balance our roster.
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If the TWolves loved Gasol
Couldn’t they just trade Williams for him?
Amend that last trade proposal. The #Magic don’t trade Dwight unless they can dump Hedo as well. http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6008562
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why not going for Kaman?
I think Kaman for Darko plus something else… I don’t know AR or whatever necessary to make it happen, even Beas, and we have a solid starting center.
It seems like that trade would really gut our team. I like Pau but he’s getting old. Realistically how many years does he have left?
Pau
Pau is 31. His numbers have dipped this year to pre-Laker levels, which is interesting.
It’s almost like he thrives in successful teams.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gasolpa01.html
I think he has at least 5 more years in him.
You’re giving up Beasley (gone anyway) Ridnour (redundant) Darko (uh…) Miller (gone after this year) and DWill, who never projected great as a pro and hasn’t shown that he’ll be anything special.
When you say it “guts” the team, all your removing are pieces that will be gone this off-season or have proven themselves redundant, along with a player whose value will likely decrease the more the league sees of him.
And, you’re adding 2 huge upgrades at our weakest positions.
I might have to make a fanshot out of this and take a vote.
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by HumdingerTV on Jan 29, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Also if we’re going to facilitate that trade why not throw the Magic a bone for Dwight. YES, I know he has said he only wants to play in a few markets but maybe Adelman, Love, and Rubio could talk some sense into him.
Not happening.
We do that and he walks this off-season.
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by HumdingerTV on Jan 29, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
That was just a dream scenario. That’s why I said maybe Adelman, Love, and Rubio could talk some sense into him. I just like what we have going now. We’re only a few games out of a playoff spot and our team is just starting to gel. We’re getting to the stretch of our schedule where it looks favorable for us. If Beasley can buy into the system and Martell can be an average small forward we will be looking good. I’m just not sold on buying into an aging Pau Gasol.
While i do love the idea of having okafor and ariza on our team,
I think we should roll with what we have currently for a while. We have a lot of young, unfinished pieces that are showing a lot of potential and the ability to play well with one another. We honestly dont know what kind of team we would look like whether it is the player’s minutes and the role they will play for the team.
I would give up whatever it took to get Gordon
we need his skills badly. Perfect synergy with Love and Ricky.
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