Tim's Game Preview: Game 6, Memphis Grizzlies
I hope Lionel Hollins packed his headache medicine for this trip to Minneapolis. After looking at his team's rotation, he'll need it.
Minnesota Timberwolves (5-0) vs. Memphis Grizzlies (2-3) at Target Center
With Zach Randolph out for 6-8 weeks with an MCL injury, and Marreesse Speights may not be available yet following his trade from Philadelphia, the Memphis Grizzlies' frontcourt rotation is thin to say the least. Given that the Grizzlies never really had a great backcourt rotation, they have been struggling as of late. Coming into Minneapolis to face the Minnesota Timberwolves, who have put together a great start to the 2011-2012 season, is one of the last things that Memphis needs right now.
The Timberwolves are on Game 4 of a 5-game homestand, after which they'll have games on the road against Washington and Toronto, before playing Chicago again at home next Tuesday to complete their first back-to-back-to-back of the season. At the end of that whirlwind stretch of games, it is easy to believe that the Wolves could be 10-0.
Before we get ahead of ourselves, let's break down the matchups in this game against Memphis:
How long until we can officially say that Ricky Rubio is the best basketball player in this picture? Trick question. We're already there.
Darko Milicic vs. Marc Gasol
After signing a 4-years, $58 million extension with the Grizzlies this offseason, Marc Gasol's numbers are up in nearly every statistical category. He's shooting nearly 63% from the field and is averaging a double-double through 5 games. Even before Z-Bo went down with his injury, it would have been a sound argument that Gasol was the best player on the Grizzlies and certainly the most consistent.
Unfortunately for Marc, he has played with Ricky Rubio for years over in Spain and Rubio knows all about Gasol's tendencies, strengths and weaknesses. I'd be willing to wager that Rubio and Rick Adelman have spent a couple of hours picking apart Gasol's game on film and that Gasol will get shut down tonight by Darko, Randolph, Love and whoever else is assigned to guard him tonight.
Winner: Darko Milicic
All he wanted for Christmas was his two front teeth, but sadly, Santa dissed him once again.
Kevin Love vs. Dante Cunningham
There are a lot of Cunninghams who would do a better job tonight against Kevin Love. Randall Cunningham. Richie Cunningham. Even the 14th Earl of Glencaim James Cunningham. Unfortunately, the Grizzlies are stuck with Dante Cunningham. Cunningham's backup (if Speights cannot play) is Josh Davis, who if you didn't know better, you might assume was one of those made-up NBA2K players. So far in 4 games, Davis is shooting 27% from the floor and averaging slightly more rebounds (1.5) than personal fouls (1.3).
Kevin Love, meanwhile, has 5 double-doubles in 5 games and is looking to surpass last year's streak. He's also shooting 44% from three-point range and his Defensive Rating has even improved from 108 points allowed per 100 possessions to 97 points allowed per 100 possessions.
Against Cunningham and Davis, Love should get at least 25 rebounds tonight.
Winner: Kevin Love
How can anyone even argue about Kevin Love getting a max deal when Rudy Gay already has one?
Michael Beasley vs. Rudy Gay
Through his first 5 games of the season, Rudy Gay is sporting a .009 WS/48 and a TS% of 434.
For the sake of comparison, Michael Beasley's WS/48 is .012 and TS% is .451, and everybody's favorite target, Wesley Johnson, has a WS/48 of .023 and a TS% of .547.
Gay's points per-36 are down, his TOV% is up and his ORtg has gone from 108 to 88. Oh yeah, and he'll get paid more than $13 million this season. When you consider his salary, is Gay the most overpaid wing player in the entire NBA?
Maybe there's a reason the Grizzlies looked so much better when Gay was on the shelf during last year's playoffs.
Winner: Michael Beasley
Tony Allen has the 23rd worst TS% in the NBA and the 24th highest turnover rate. His Twitter account is definitely the most offensive thing about him.
Wesley Johnson vs. Tony Allen
Tony Allen is not a great offensive player. That's often been dismissed because Allen is so good at defense that it makes up for his poor offensive skills.
Kevin Love is a great offensive player. That's often been dismissed because Love is so bad at defense that it negates his offensive and rebounding skills.
So why is it that Tony Allen's defensive rating is 100, while Kevin Love's is 97 (the lower the better)? Even if you look at defensive plays against Love and Allen this season, you can see that opponents shoot only a little bit worse from the field against Allen than Love (41% to 37%), but shoot much worse from 3 against Love (20% to Allen's 36.4%) and turn the ball over more against Love (9.1% to Allen's 8.8%).
Overall, opponents have scored on 38.6% of possessions against Kevin Love and 38.2% of possessions against Tony Allen.
So, there's an obvious question to ask: is Tony Allen an overrated defender or is Kevin Love an underrated one? I think Wesley Johnson might prove it to be the former in tonight's game, but the answer could be both.
Winner: Wesley Johnson
Last night against Sacramento, both O.J. Mayo and Mike Conley started the game on the bench and played less than 24 minutes.
Luke Ridnour vs. Mike Conley
Jeremy Pargo is an undrafted guard out of Gonzaga who spent the past two seasons playing for Hapoel Gilboa Galil Elyon and Maccabi Tel Aviv B.C. You may be more familiar with his brother, Jannero Pargo, who has been a part of playoff teams in Los Angeles, New Orleans and Chicago. Jeremy, however, has started 3 of the Grizzlies 5 games this season at point guard, due in part to Mike Conley's injured ankle and in part due to Mike Conley being a below average basketball player.
It appears that Conley is going to get the start again in tonight's game, which is probably a plus for the Timberwolves, with Conley being a below average basketball player and all. The decision to award him that large extension seemed like a bad one mere seconds after it happened and it does not look any better now.
I've spent enough time talking about Ricky Rubio in these previews so far, but there was one moment from Monday night's game that I wanted to mention:
Luke Ridnour, despite having many of his own fans cheering for him to go to the bench for a large portion of games - even games in which the Wolves are winning - has acted like a true professional on the court and has continued to give good effort when he is in the game. His performance on Monday was fantastic - 7 of 10 for 19 points and 9 assists - and Ricky Rubio, who was only mediocre, still got the post-game interview from B Wright.
I think while we all enjoy our shiny new point guard, Mr. Rubio, we should still make it a point to acknowledge when Ridnour plays well and not brush that aside so quickly.
Winner: Luke Ridnour
My Prediction: Timberwolves 108 - Memphis Grizzlies 89
Timberwolves' Record: 6-0
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The Hollins family will go 1-1 in Minneapolis tonight
Wolves over Memphis – Dad loses
Gophers over Iowa – Son wins
by Ski U Mah Gopher on Jan 4, 2012 4:00 PM CST reply actions
The Rubio, Gasol, Kobe picture is priceless
Great find.
Kobe: WHAT DID YOU SAY about me looking like I need a bra?!
Rubio: It’s because you have your shoulders like this
Gasol: How can you be having a conversation about this without including me?! I look like I ate an entire Victoria’s Secret store.
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Jan 4, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
Nice props to luke
Pek apologist
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Jan 4, 2012 4:17 PM CST reply actions
How huge does DWill look next to Rubio
Or how small does Rubio look next to Dwill
Looks like the Guys at Sraight outta Vancouver
Have matched your style:
The Wolves actually have some good players coming off the bench in Ricky Rubio, JJ Barea, and Derrick Williams. That being said, the Grizzlies’ reserves are much better and should be able to outmatch their counterparts. Our starters are definitely better, and if our bench is too then that’s ballgame.
Michael Beasley is a Small Forward. Derrick Williams is a Power Forward.
To be fair to me
…when I wrote that, I failed to consider that awesome talents that are Darko and Pek. Marc’s going to get destroyed tonight.
"Sasha [Vujacic] has no conscience. He'd shoot at a funeral." -Charles Barkley
by ForeignFlopper on Jan 4, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
Don’t be surpised to see Kevin Love on Marc at some point.
Michael Beasley is a Small Forward. Derrick Williams is a Power Forward.
Isn’t Rubio going to guard Marc?
"Sasha [Vujacic] has no conscience. He'd shoot at a funeral." -Charles Barkley
by ForeignFlopper on Jan 4, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
Only if Marc promises to regrow those Samson-like locks from the Olympics
Michael Beasley is a Small Forward. Derrick Williams is a Power Forward.
Marc never really had one, but I’d like to see someone, anyone grow a good old fashioned Euro mullet. Preferably, Andrea Bargnani.
"Sasha [Vujacic] has no conscience. He'd shoot at a funeral." -Charles Barkley
by ForeignFlopper on Jan 4, 2012 5:45 PM CST up reply actions
You mean
like now?
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 4, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
Cute
but the presence of tigers in Kenya is a fact that had previously eluded me but mostly I was irritated by the repeated disrespect to the Oslo zoo.
What's wrong with the NBA is what's wrong with the USA: too much respect for superstars and not enough for working class heroes.
It almost sounds as if you make a serious case that our team is better than theirs
BIZARRO WORLD IS FRIGHTENING
I'm not there yet
They are more battle tested than us. But I hear ya.
The Highland bank lot between 8th and 9th on LaSalle
Is also $5. The real stealth spot is in the US bank building (the entrance to the ramp is right next to the entrance to the Highland Bank ramp, but as it’s really the parking for the office building it’s easy to miss — it’s the small ramp that goes down). $5 bucks and it’s underground and therefore heated.
Of course, since it’s 40 degrees every day here now the indoor parking isn’t such a big deal. . .
The ABC lot on 7th St between Marquette and Hennepin
$5 parking, one block up and one block over from Target Center. You can take the skyway all the way there if you want to.
That's the Macy's ramp, if I'm reading you correctly
It has two entrances. One off of 8th St and one off of 7th.
No one is mentioning
Going over the bridge at 5th St… the long creepy walk into the dark streets.
Think you can still find free street parking there. But I could be wrong.
I used to work in the Ford Center
Which is a very cool old production plant for..model t’s?.. I don’t even know. But the freight elevators are awesome!
You can park at lake and hiawatha for free and ride the light rail in and out for 4 dollars. Drops 1 block from the bullseye
I come from the south suburbs,
so I park at 28th Ave Station (near MOA) and ride the light rail in. It’s awesome.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 4, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
park in st anthony east (just north of the bridge)
And bus in for two bucks. When it’s nice out,i walk back. Don’t follow me!
4 block walk
but theres a nice little pocket of street parking one block east of Marquette thats FREE after 6 pm and on weekends. The best is right between us bank plaza and one financial building.
by GaryCraigTrentSmith on Jan 4, 2012 6:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Little nervous about tonight's game
We had a wonderful 5 game window of surprising people.
Think teams are done overlooking us.
After 4 down-to-the-wire battles last year...
Without Ricky, Rick, or Derrick?
Yah, it’d be pretty silly to think they just got surprised.
From what I've noticed
Pops really respects Adelman. Adelman not only brought credibility but also respect to the organization. That also means our plays will be analysed and other teams will take us more seriously. Which on the long run, is a good thing, since if we are shooting for the playoffs, we really have to be prepared for that. We have to be experienced in beating teams that want to beat us.
I think it's a psychology with players
Don’t think coaches are every surprised.
But we have won 2 out of our last 20. Guys aren’t exactly fearing us.
But the Love/Rubio buzz think is getting noticed.
Just a thought…
Tim, you've once again raised the bar
for objective and concise pre-game commentary. Given that it is becoming more difficult by the day to underplay the force that is the Timberwolves, I’m grateful that you are still able to portray the other team’s players and coaching staff in such a flattering light.
The shot of Mr. Hollins is truly priceless….
2012 the year of Twolves porcelain extraction?
by Dogpile on Jan 4, 2012 4:50 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
No, the cast of Wings, the late 80s/early 90's sports comedy is third
Just kidding they were ok. Not great, but ok (ahem wes johnson ahem)
Can't wait to see Rubio's new hairdo tonight
Joe Mauer grounded out to second
Bill Smith - Buy high, Hold high, Sell for a bag of chips
I think Ricky hides mirrors in that flop top
How else can you explain his 360 degree x-ray vision?
I liked the ' do,
B/c it was ready to pick him out from the stands.. But he could stand to get a bit more grown up
Great preview once again
Side bar. Anyone know how to get the posts to un-highlight while working on an iPad??
I watch this team, and i care so much, simply because i can’t not. It’s just a part of who i am..
Twolves should continue to build on their close-but-no-cigar foundation
I have watched the Twovles each time they played this season, except against San Antonio which was blacked out in Chicago are All Access for whatever reason.
They seem to play discplined team ball. Michael Beasley get criticized for for a performance or two and bounced back on 1/3/11. You can also say that for Tolliver for his performance against the Mavs. Hopefully, Rubio and Williams can help boost this team into an 8th or 7th position in the Western conference playoffs.
Even their performance in their losses this season have been interesting
performances.
I'm worried about this game
Although have Z. Randolph out will surely help our cause, I think Memphis will be a tougher test for the Wolfies than Mavs or Spurs (both old and lifeless teams); Memphis has the youthfulness to match our team, and is more battle tested (as someone else mentioned);
I think they will put Tony Allen on Rubio to try to pester him with a physical defender like SA did. Hopefully Rubio can make the adjustment.
Win by 14.
Conley will play limited mins when they realize he’ll never keep up with us in his limited state..no zbo..win!.
I never thought I'd read
Before we get ahead of ourselves
In a game preview ;)
Live And Stupid From England
I hate this matchup
but a lot less without Randolph. Shame for him, really good player. He’s about the only four in the league strong enough to move Love into places he doesn’t want to be. Coupled with M Gasol, who’s serious quality, that frontcourt is scary. However, Dante Cunningham is rather less intimidating.
Welcome to Lob Tundra! -dan_the_man
I read at Straigh Outta Vancouver
that the Grizzles had 75 points in the paint, due to the bigs playing well in the post and the wings slashing. That second part could cause us some trouble.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 4, 2012 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
Rudy, Tony, Sam, and OJ are all excellent at cutting to the rim when either Zach or Marc gets the ball in the post, and our bigs usually find them. I haven’t paid much attention to your team on defense so far. Are you good at defending cutters? If so, we’ll be in trouble. If not, you’ll be in trouble.
"Sasha [Vujacic] has no conscience. He'd shoot at a funeral." -Charles Barkley
by ForeignFlopper on Jan 4, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
Dark-Dark, Cola, Kev, Slim J, DerrBear, Tony, Tony Tols, Dicky, Luke, Ell, Mal, 2-J, Telly, BM and the Beas are all excellent at hiding cutters from big men and making them not cut so excellently.
by Ray Williams? on Jan 4, 2012 6:34 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't understand what Ray Williams? just wrote there, so I'll offer an answer in English.
The team’s been doing fairly well this year. Darko’s a solid inside presence, Love is more mobile on defense than in years past. Beasley looks to have increased his intensity on D (not saying much, but still . . .), and when Johnson puts his mind to it, he’s been known to lock up Kobe pretty well.
I don’t know about Barea or Rubio. I don’t think Westbrook scored an unusually large number on us. This game, I think, will tell us a lot about what our defense will look like this year.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 4, 2012 6:52 PM CST up reply actions
I will take a shot
Dark-Dark = Darko
Cola = Pekovic
Kev = Love
Slim J = Wes
DerrBear = D. Williams
Tony = AR
Tony Tols = AT
Dicky = Ricky Rubio
Luke = Luke
Ell = Ellington
Mal =Lee
2-J = Barea
Telly= Martell
BM = Brad Miller
Beas = Beasley
Reduce turnovers, reduce personal fouls, shoot better, win.
Westbrook was 0-13 when we played the Thunder...
…and it’s not like he was being guarded by Jeremy Pargo and Josh Selby. Tony Allen, our only lockdown defender in the backcourt, was guarding Durant all night. I don’t know what’s going on Westbrook, but it would driving me crazy if I were a Thunder fan. I don’t do fantasy myself, but several people have told me he’s killing their fantasy teams.
"Sasha [Vujacic] has no conscience. He'd shoot at a funeral." -Charles Barkley
by ForeignFlopper on Jan 4, 2012 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
er...
*he was being guarded by Jeremy Pargo and Josh Selby
"Sasha [Vujacic] has no conscience. He'd shoot at a funeral." -Charles Barkley
by ForeignFlopper on Jan 4, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
Will the League Pass broadband trial subscription work in the TC tonight?
Or will it be blacked out cause the game is on FSN? I need to know whether to go to the liquor store for the game on the laptop or to the bar for the game on cable. TIA.
He's Ricky Rubio. He’s not like anyone else.
they have wireless at the liquor store?
convenient!
I'm actually runing ethernet
down there if I get confirmation that it won’t be blacked out. It’s only about four blocks from my place.
He's Ricky Rubio. He’s not like anyone else.
Being blacked out is a great reason
to not watch the game at a liquor store. Sorry for sounding so preachy.
Over at SOV we had a discussion about trading our wings
Before we traded Xavier for Marreese Speights (I spelled it correctly without looking it up! progress!), I said that we ought to trade OJ for Anthony Randolph + something else, either a pick or a player like Wayne Ellington. It doesn’t really matter anymore, but just to satisfy my curiosity, what are you guys’ thoughts?
"Sasha [Vujacic] has no conscience. He'd shoot at a funeral." -Charles Barkley
Some good discussion
On that identical proposal today here. So long as you don’t mind references to ZBo’s injury. I’m sad that their will be no more Z-Bounds for 6-8 weeks.
Michael Beasley is a Small Forward. Derrick Williams is a Power Forward.
Our team's been so lucky healthy-wise
Coming into this season, only Darrell and Rudy have suffered any major injuries for the past 4 seasons. We were due.
"Sasha [Vujacic] has no conscience. He'd shoot at a funeral." -Charles Barkley
by ForeignFlopper on Jan 4, 2012 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
I would for AR and a second rounder, or ellington
Though I still think wayne could be a good bench player
I like AR, but I recognize we’d be taking a flyer on him. The other trade I thought about was Sam Young for AR straight-up. Sorry to you guys, but Sam’s probably better than any other 2-3 on your roster.
By the way, I’m riding shotgun in the Rubio bandwagon.
"Sasha [Vujacic] has no conscience. He'd shoot at a funeral." -Charles Barkley
by ForeignFlopper on Jan 4, 2012 6:08 PM CST up reply actions
I'd do AR for Young
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Jan 4, 2012 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know who sam young is,
But I don’t doubt it
AR should keep maturing,i think, but we really do need a wing and he’s not a future starter
Welcome Foreign...
I’d be interested in a Mayo/AR+Filler swap…I still haven’t been able to wrap my head around it, what is it about Mayo that made him fall so far out of favor with you guys?
by LosAngelesTWolf on Jan 4, 2012 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
I like Mayo a lot
We’re loaded at the wings even after trading Xavier, so much so that Sam Young, who started on last year’s playoff team got almost no PT in our first 3 games. Of all our wings, OJ was the most tradeable asset. Plus, he’s a guy who’s best when he has the ball in his hands. Our offense goes through Zach, Rudy, Marc, Mike Conley, and then OJ Mayo (in that order), so the production that he showed in his rookie and sophomore seasons dipped down. He regained his effectiveness coming off the bench as our 6th man and being the main source of offense in the 2nd unit.
I think he’d be a great fit in Minnesota, where he’d probably be the 3rd option and have a higher usage rate.
"Sasha [Vujacic] has no conscience. He'd shoot at a funeral." -Charles Barkley
by ForeignFlopper on Jan 4, 2012 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
He would have been a good fit in Chicago for that matter as well
"Sasha [Vujacic] has no conscience. He'd shoot at a funeral." -Charles Barkley
by ForeignFlopper on Jan 4, 2012 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
That was a very informative answer.
Mayo’s answer comes up a lot around here in discussion about 2s.
We were all happy at SOV when it Xavier who ended up being traded
OJ’s a nice player to have around. Unfortunately, his contract expires after this season, and I doubt we keep him considering how much we’re paying Marc, Mike Conley, Z-Bo, and Rudy.
"Sasha [Vujacic] has no conscience. He'd shoot at a funeral." -Charles Barkley
by ForeignFlopper on Jan 4, 2012 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
It has been noted here..
..that with Rubio, a 2 that can bang 3s makes more sense. I’m not sure that is Mayo’s forte. The one exception would probably be DeRozen.
Sorry, I just copied how you spelled it.
He said during the lockout he put tons of time in the gym working on his 3 pointer. It looks to have paid off. Granted he can’t keep up this good of shooting for the whole season (10-16 on the season), but he can rain 3’s now.
Oh, and thanks for the welcome
I’m a longtime reader and fan of CanisHoopus.
Plus, the Wolves are my “second team” this year. I love young, rebuilding teams with upside because I’m weird.
"Sasha [Vujacic] has no conscience. He'd shoot at a funeral." -Charles Barkley
by ForeignFlopper on Jan 4, 2012 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
For the first time maybe ever — and absolutely since the KG era — Im tempted to watch the Wolves instead of the Gophers when they’re on opposite one another. Call me crazy, but watching Ricky Rubio is somewhat more appealing than watching Maverick Ahanmisi.
Maroon and Gold Headquarters: The Daily Gopher
I spent 20 minutes on the couch the other day
Trying to find out the name origin for Ahanmisi and pontificating on who would name their kid “Maverick”
Michael Beasley is a Small Forward. Derrick Williams is a Power Forward.
20 minutes well spent, clearly!
Maroon and Gold Headquarters: The Daily Gopher
by PJS on Jan 4, 2012 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
Watch Fellini's 8 1/2
for the answer to the first question.
It is very gratifying
Not to be the worst team in the league for once. I’m watching the Wizards at the moment, and good lord are they ever terrible. 1-13 start from the field for them.
Welcome to Lob Tundra! -dan_the_man
K-Love!!!
Start Voting people. All-Star voting is open. NBA.com. Love Needs to two peat
by WolvesCityMN on Jan 4, 2012 6:54 PM CST via mobile reply actions
And Ricky Rubio as well!!!
All-Star voting included K. Irving (shooting 1-7 tonight against Toronto) and Ricky Rubio.
by LobosfromMadrid on Jan 4, 2012 7:15 PM CST up reply actions

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