The road to 61-5, clearing customs pt. 2
by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 9, 2012 7:15 PM CST
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Especially since we know who will start the 2nd half
Reduce turnovers, reduce personal fouls, shoot better, win.
I think we should do whatever we can to get DeRozan
for those times when our SG will be matched up against a 5’11" defender.
That was great swarming D
only to be wasted by a Wes 3
What is there to say about Wes anymore?
Just brutal.
Scoop Hand Luke.
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How long till the cool kids show up
to this thread?
Don't know
wasn’t on CH for the first half so I haven’t been to the thread. Was taking an online training course for work while I watched the game. I gave it the appropriate amount of attention.
Wes has awful basketball player syndrome...
I watch this team, and i care so much, simply because i can’t not. It’s just a part of who i am..
I think it is more Sax-Ankiel
When he does manage to shoot, he misses anyway.
He who rides a wolf cannot dismount.
Just turned the game on.
We’re down by a few, it looks like. How have we looked?
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
Shooting terribly.
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Just turned game on
What is the point of those things on the baseline saying Raptors? Safety purposes?
@JayKlinkhammer
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Illusions.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
I thought the same thing
Until you realize it’s cleverly angled floor art.
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 9, 2012 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
We are playing horribly
and still only down by a basket… Pulling this win out would be very encouraging for our team
I never lose any hatred for that Gophers scratch ticket commercial.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
worst game of season for Love so far
Michael Beasley is a Small Forward. Derrick Williams is a Power Forward.
Every time I look at a boxscore he plays over 40 minutes or so
I figure he’s a bit tired at this point
He's also not impervious to having an off night
Even great players have them. But when he sucks, the lack of talent on our team is really exposed.
ok just looked and he's averaging 39.4mpg
that’s rough with back to backs.
Time out, please?
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Wes Johnson
0-5 shooting, 0-3 from deep, 1 rebound, 1 assist, 2 steals, 2 TOs in 16 minutes, yet he is only -3….what?
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 9, 2012 7:46 PM CST reply actions
IF KL is gassed.. put someone else in..
go with AT, AR, RR and JJB the rest of the game
listening to toronto radio crew...
by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 9, 2012 7:47 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Bargnani needs more money
so he can afford to buy a chin.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
I'm starting to suspect
that our starters may not be our best unit.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
Pound for pound
Ridnour is the best defensive player for the Wolves and the most consistent offensively. Now the Spanglish Twinkies show !!
Anyone feeling
like we are going to somehow win this game despite everything going against us right now?
not at all sadly
I watch this team, and i care so much, simply because i can’t not. It’s just a part of who i am..
Not at all.
Adelman sticking with the awful starting unit put the Wolves in a big hole.
YES
they are going to win this and tomorrow against the bulls!
Death, taxes...
and Wes Johnson sucks
"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."
— Hunter S. Thompson
Not a good sign for Pek
if he can’t get on the court even when the rest of our bigs are completely spent.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
Pek can dunk the ball, get rebounds and play tough defense
That’s all we ask from the center position.
Darko can do none of those things. Plus he tries to handle the ball, resulting in turnovers and missed shots … why is he playing again?
Love is a prima donna......
great rebounder and shooter because that is all he does! Wolves are very soft tonight in the paint!
KL's worst game of the year BY FAR
he really should sit
Um, no. Not if they want to win
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Jan 9, 2012 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
Here we go...
Barea and Unicorn on court = things slowly starting to improve.
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 9, 2012 7:53 PM CST reply actions
As I post that
Barea misses the lay up
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 9, 2012 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
Barea trying to take over
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
I'll take it
better than watching Love try at this point
It sure makes a difference having him available.
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I wonder if We'll see Rubio's numbers go down with JJ back
He’s on the ball a lot
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
not really..just this quarter..
in the first half he was deferring to Ricky. I think JJ just got fed up and doesn’t want to lose
JJ is a 1000X the player Luke is.. I don't ever want to see Luke in the game..
unless JJ and/or RR are too gassed
I wouldn't go nearly that far
Luke is a much better 3 point shooter.
Hyperbole is your friend.
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One thing that's been annoying
Is that this year’s Wolves stay close despite sucking hard, somehow, so you know they’ll lose but can’t legitimately turn the game off.
Harsher Than Scissors
Can someone translate
spark plug in Spanish so I can yell it whenever JJ enters?
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 9, 2012 7:56 PM CST reply actions
JJ
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 9, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
Wow. They won that quarter
No idea how that happened.
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
JJ
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 9, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
JJ happened
good to have him back. Looks to be worth all $19mil
Dont give up on KLove yet
He’s starting to win the boards, and maybe that will enable him to make some open 3’s down the stretch 4th quarter
I had no idea
someone was still paying Anthony Carter to play professionally.
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Well, we're still paying Wes
"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."
— Hunter S. Thompson
And if I'm not mistaken
AC is 5 years younger.
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by JMGrady on Jan 9, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
Mandatory PD fill-in.
I’m coming off the bench for him on this topic and this topic alone.
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So Beas
Is the only player that can create his own shot? DWill says otherwise.
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 9, 2012 7:59 PM CST reply actions
nope
ellington is playing pretty well right now, and dwill is untradeable for now…
I love Ellington's attitude
mixed with not being 0 for everything
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Oooh, JJ.
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does it seem like barea is doing the luke thing w/ rubio?
not playing a 2-guard but getting the ball in rotation and starting over as a 1?
Davis with the big slam
and the crowd murmurs
"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."
— Hunter S. Thompson
Nice unit out there right now
Probably the best non-love rotation we can run out there.
only when AR has his head screwed on to his shoulder
by Souvik Roy Chowdhury on Jan 9, 2012 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
He's a knucklehead
But overall, he’s a productive player. Especially compared to the talent on this team.
raps radio announcers:
At some point the Raptors have to address the offensive ineptitude of Butler. #obviousfacts
by Stop-n-Pop on Jan 9, 2012 8:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions
yeah SnP, but this game Butler has been even worse than advertised..
hard to believe actually. He is single handedly keeping us in the game.
Every Wolves fan in the world:
Darko is terrible. #evenmoreobviousfacts
Barea would will them out of open air.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
Good enough
That they would find an extra two games to win.
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 9, 2012 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
No he is amazing
I just was asking if he was being limited with only 15 minutes so far due to the hammy?
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Yes
Rubio is giving up the ball much more quickly… energy is suddenly picking up! come on close this game out
Late to the party
the Pups are doing better than I expected, Barea helps a bunch,no?
2012 the year of Twolves porcelain extraction?
Dwill may be out of control at times...
But I love his effort! He’ll be one of those “high motor” guys throughout his careeer
That two foot take off
really slows him down on the break, though. Can he really not just run into the dunk/layup?
KL is not a slug, and the reason he is -21 is because all that he gives you on offense..
he takes away on defense
darko, wes, el
much bigger problem tonite
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by ChicagoViking on Jan 9, 2012 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
fuck you wes
hate that useless pile of garbage…
unless he miraculously turns it around that is!
We only use fuck
in the context of “Fuck you, Jonny Flynn”.
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Put Wes back in the game!!
I kid
Joe Mauer grounded into double play, second to shortstop to first, ________ out at second
Rubio was supposed to be a bust n Barea wasn't supposed to work with Rubio!
by Souvik Roy Chowdhury on Jan 9, 2012 8:05 PM CST reply actions
To be fair...
Not many talking heads were saying Rubio would be a bust, they thought his passing and vision would translate well, it was that he couldn’t shoot his last year in Spain.
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 9, 2012 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
Prolly see Kobe coming off the bench
When Adelman’s ideas catch on.
by fanslaststand on Jan 9, 2012 8:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions
If you kid,
sometimes it happens! Course it happened much more often with Wittman and Rambis.
2012 the year of Twolves porcelain extraction?
Rubio can't shoot!
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
Casey has the Raptors playing better than expected
with Bargnani that’s no small feat…
2012 the year of Twolves porcelain extraction?
Whatever else he is, Bargnani is a slick scorer.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
really?
have you watched the guy play D before?
No. In fact,
no human being has yet seen the sight of AR playing defense. He does it so quickly that he finishes defending a player before they’ve even shot.
no answer tonite
Pek way too slow, too
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by ChicagoViking on Jan 9, 2012 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
Casey has done some miracles
If this is the nightly standard of Toronto’s interior D.
Harsher Than Scissors
His leaving for the Raptor job
is an underrated loss for the Mavericks
"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."
— Hunter S. Thompson
Is it just me
or is the Canadian color commentator sound just like Dick Vitale.
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 9, 2012 8:10 PM CST reply actions
sounds like the cookie monster
Joe Mauer grounded into double play, second to shortstop to first, ________ out at second
pretty bad game for love
Joe Mauer grounded into double play, second to shortstop to first, ________ out at second
Something We have learned tonight
Bargiani is very good offensively.
JJ Barea is great
Ricky is Ricky
Luke is Luke
Adleman is definitly resting our bench brigade by playing the starters so much so that the can play more against the Bulls.
by Michael C. Boosalis II on Jan 9, 2012 8:11 PM CST reply actions
I'll avoid the snark response and blame it on food that is too spicy...
2012 the year of Twolves porcelain extraction?
Sure looked like dude was shuffling his feet on that offensive foul
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Love is hesitant
wtf I know you’re having a bad night, but shoot that
Was thinking
exactly the same thing. meh
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 9, 2012 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
Two-way clank-fest for the last four minutes.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
terrible
I hate to say it but Love needs to sit for the rest of he game
Rubio gassed
Too many minutes in a row?
by fanslaststand on Jan 9, 2012 8:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Nice recovery by Ricky
Terribad boxing out under the basket.
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why on earth
did they pull JJ
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Jan 9, 2012 8:16 PM CST reply actions
Probably limiting his minutes
but we could sure use him out there now.
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Should we start offering dunk bonuses?
WTF Tolliver?
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
tomorrow
Is going to be ugly
Michael Beasley is a Small Forward. Derrick Williams is a Power Forward.
wtf?? the lineup of AR, AT, DW, JJ, and RR gets you back in the game..
and then you completely change it???
Get 'em back in there...
win this, and then take your lumps tomorrow
"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."
— Hunter S. Thompson
Anyone else feel
that a bucket here seals the deal?
"Practice? We talkin' bout' practice?"
by The Scandalnavian on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM CST reply actions
It's up to Toronto
they could very well stick the dagger, especially with a three.
Love came back in,
and we immediately lost the lead. It’s just not his night.
Tolliver doing the splits
is impressive, but not good defense.
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you didn't watch earlier in the year
he wasn’t sagging off hands down giving away open 12 footers.
true.. his team defense today has been far worse than normal
those last 2 Calderon shots were uncontested because of Love
I haven't seen
Love play this poorly in a long time. He’s looked slow all night.
Absolute crap turnover
by Toliver on the in bounds
I just don't understand rick's thinking here
by ballllin on Jan 9, 2012 8:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I don't get this either..
I don’t understand these rotations
As in the whole season?
His rotations are actually much worse than last year because now we have the talent to actually field a real starting lineup and he is just choosing not to.
i'm going to say it:
this loss goes on Love’s and Adelman’s shoulders. Love needs to recognize when he’s got it and when he doesn’t and Adelman NEEDS to go with the players who are effective.
we're totally out of players tonite
Sadly, we’re learning why beasley has to play
by midlife crisis on Jan 9, 2012 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
sadly, yes
lee, martell, old man C
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by ChicagoViking on Jan 9, 2012 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
I think that's misguided thinking
Not one player on this team played well enough to win this game. Maybe JJ had a good game, but absolutely no one else stepped up to be a positive force.
yeah you're probably right.
it just feels like guys were getting pulled just as they were getting stuff done—williams comes to mind.
Love
gets better with age. He needs to start growing up fast.
respect amir's hustle
he put his foot up Love’s ass tonight
17+ minutes
coming off an injury. RA isn’t going to risk it, I’d wager.
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I feel like an idiot questioning Adelman
But this game simply doesn’t make any sense.
Harsher Than Scissors
When you're dominated by Amir Johnson, maybe, just maybe you don't deserve a max contract just yet
by bluedevil_unicorno on Jan 9, 2012 8:23 PM CST reply actions
i live in portland
And i’ll be honest whenever we play Minn people respect love, but they expect aldridge to completely go off on the offensive end
How is Nolan doing?
and are you comfortable playing a Dukie ?
Portland want some sympathy for Roy and Oden
Obviously it sucks about Roy, great player, and Oden too. But Portland are still really good. How lucky is that? They got Crash for nothing, and he’s a great player.
Harsher Than Scissors
Good god
really? That’s where we’re going?
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Jan 9, 2012 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
No, He's our best player. He doesn't match up with some dudes. I think he plays Amir
again, he wins. Just an exceptional night for Amir. He won’t do this all the time, like Zach and Aldridge. He needs some rest. No legs tonight. Need to rotate with DWill more.
AT
like the guy, but real bad lately
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Don't care about his lack of defense...
this is the kind of game where a Kevin Martin would have made a hell of a difference.
"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."
— Hunter S. Thompson
Realism and rationality
have no place on a game thread.
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yeah.. cause you guys know KL can never have a bad game..
he’s fucking superman.. yeah. you live in the world of reality!!!
Reality
JJ is coming off an injury that can be reaggravated rather easily. You limit a guy like that’s minutes when he returns.
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Again...
You can’t play JJ extended minutes coming off an injury for fear of losing him for extended time. Yes, I grant he played really well out there, but you don’t risk it.
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I don't know what else to tell you.
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5-8 minutes at the level of intensity he plays
and that late in the game, could have been devastating coming off an injury. Look, Adelman and the trainers picked a number of minutes (maybe arbitrarily), and they played JJ for no more than that. Most coaches in the league would take the loss instead of risking re-injury to one of their only talented players. Sucks that we lost, but kudos to Adelman for seeing the (hopefully) bigger picture.
Absolutely agreed.
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That lineup had a run
but it was mostly Toronto bricking a ton of shots. JJ played well but is probably on limited minutes. Rubio stayed in and was a not a difference maker. Williams stayed in and did not contribute. AR was not impressive while he was in. Tolliver was not bringing anything. I think it’s ridiculous to suggest that the game was lost because Love took over for AR and Luke came in for JJ. No one played well.
Threw for 316 yards.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
Love is God! Wait! God is Love!
My mind just asploded.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
I was thinking along the lines of
having a good scorer on these back-to-back-to-back nights. Our offense depends so much on movement – we’ve got dead legs and everything went to crap.
"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."
— Hunter S. Thompson
man
everyone has to start thinking more on the court. Tired of going through the motions every night. Stop running around and think about what you are doing fuck
I thought he was OK
The real problem was nothing from the frontcourt at all. Williams was alright, I guess.
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Jan 9, 2012 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
He gets abused off high pick and rolls
An aggressive big man and quick PG create space at will. Cleveland exploited this weakness, and so did Toronto – not sure why other teams haven’t attacked us like this.
Granted, it’s not all Ricky’s fault – the other defender has to be there, and with the Wolves, you can count on that never happening.
As for Ricky’s offense – he’s making the same plays he always does, but no one’s hitting shots or giving him any help. Especially Love, who spent the night getting spanked by Amir “who?” Johnson.
He really doesn't get abused on the PnR. he plays it well.
He isn’t a great player (yet), but that just isn’t true.
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Jan 9, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry I didn't mean pick and rolls
I meant those high screens where the big sets a pick and the guard just kind of shuffles back and forth until Rubio is out of position – leads to an open shot, drive or pass almost every time. It was painful seeing this over and over again in the Cleveland game (with Varejao setting the pick) and now in this game.
Rookie blues tonight
A compressed schedule and no training camp – he’ll have a few of these.
"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."
— Hunter S. Thompson
Maybe Adelman is just looking for answers
In the case of Barea, the answer came immediately:
- Barea is good, can play with Ricky, and makes this team better. No need to play him further; save him for tomorrow, and ease him back in from the injury.
As for every awful player whom we keep yelling for him to take out: RA’s probably just wondering, “is there ANY way these guys can play well? If anyone can get them to produce, it’s me.”
- Still waiting on that one.
I'm not sure that RA's ego is quite that large
I prefer to think that he is exposing the weak members for the owner and GM to see, in a way that doesn’t allow for differing opinions. In a week or so, it will be apparent to even Kahn and Taylor that there is deadwood on this squad and changes need to be made to bring in talent.
2012 the year of Twolves porcelain extraction?
I hope you're right on this
"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."
— Hunter S. Thompson
Ah yes, the "give them enough rope" strategy
I don’t think our theories are mutually exclusive. Adelman is playing guys until he knows what they can do. He even said himself that he’s “in talent evaluation mode.” Part of that is to expose weaknesses (like you said), and the other part is to play guys long enough to he can see whether there’s any possibility of redemption (like I said)
I agree that we aren't really that far apart
I suppose what makes this period of evaluation so hard to stomach is that as casual fans( ok, not so casual) we have already pretty much decided what the weaknesses and strengths of these players are. Not being professional and winning coaches aside, we are convinced that what we see is what is there, whether RA sees it that way is the mystery that makes judging his rotations so annoying to us. Can’t he see what we SEE?
2012 the year of Twolves porcelain extraction?
He definitely sees what we see
and probably much more clearly. But there HAS to be a reason he isn’t starting the two rookies. And it’s probably a combination of everything we’ve mentioned, plus stuff that we haven’t even thought about – maybe he wants them to watch the game for a few minutes and think through it strategically before diving in. Maybe that’s why they’re so effective when they finally enter the game.
Ok, if you're going to bring strategy into this!
You’re going WAY over my head!
2012 the year of Twolves porcelain extraction?
I've never met a plan I couldn't reduce
to utter chaos within 5 minutes of thought!
2012 the year of Twolves porcelain extraction?
I wasn't bringing strategy into it
it was more of a layman’s point: take a look at the game and figure out what’s going on, instead of jumping in before you have a clue. I’m sure Ricky and maybe even DWill could do just fine starting, but Adelman has determined that their development starts with coming off the bench – they’ll still play against the other team’s starters, but only after observing for a few minutes first. I’m honestly not upset about it.
I get what you're saying
RA may not be bringing on the rookies too early or for too many minutes, but damn it does show how little talent we actually have when the bench is winning games and the starters are largely losing them!
2012 the year of Twolves porcelain extraction?
Another game where a crappy opponent plays above his level
That seems to happen to us a lot. That was basically, a whole heap of shit performance.
Harsher Than Scissors
wheels just came off
collapse
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by ChicagoViking on Jan 9, 2012 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
Well, JJ came out and Love went back in
like Jenga when the whole thing comes crashing down because you remove the critical piece or add one too many – tonight we did both.
I want one of our spineless fucking MN reporters to ask RA what his thinking is with these rotations
Yeah, keep the Republitards busy with that
and let the adults govern.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
CJ don't allow the dark side to dominate your anger
remember that a vacumm still sucks…
2012 the year of Twolves porcelain extraction?
I'm still working on it.
But you’re right, DP. I can’t lash out at all of the stupid. I’d have no energy left for making wise-ass comments.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
who's he supposed to play?
I don’t get the rotation argument at all. He ends every game with our best players. He can’t play them 48 minutes. Love has produced in the 4th pretty well. Barea had to sit cuz of injury. Luke is the only player who shot well. When you have these players, how can you possibly allocate minutes in such a manner that at some point you don’t have a crappy team out there? We have crappy players, not crappy rotations.
what is this.. everyone look at what the lineup of RR, AT, AR, DW, and JJ did today...
he should have stayed with them as KL had no legs
Can't push JJ too hard yet.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
Who was making that argument?
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I don't see anyone making that comparison.
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He also trolled the whole game.
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What you said earlier is that Ridnour doesn't deserve to see any playing time
which is just foolish.
As far as I'm concerned,
JJ is our best non-Rubio backcourt player by a country mile.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
That mile
is a very desolate stretch of abandoned road
Nothing but tumbleweeds and crickets.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
And Wes Johnson,
but only because he gets lost so often. Once he finds himself, he heads back home to Ineptville.
It's cold and dark out there.
Err, I mean, in there. You know, that space where he hangs out while Darko is smoking. Also the place he goes when he thinks about taking a wide open three.
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Too much.
Acts too seldom.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
I'm assuming it goes something like:
Oh, oh, shit, I have the ball, I have the ball, oh, oh, oh, shit, okay, okay, okay, I’ll just shoot. Oh no, no, no, no. Ack, ack, shit, get this ball out of my hands!
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I think it's more like
the wind-up monkey clapping the cymbals in Homer Simpson’s head.
Oh no, no, no, no. Ack, ack,
Great, now I have to picture Wes as a Cathy cartoon every time he gets the ball.
Oddly fitting?
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Like something out of the Cormac McCarthy novel "The Road"
Nothing but swirling ash, abandoned houses, and cannibals that keep filthy naked humans in their basements for food.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
by nja700 on Jan 9, 2012 8:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for the Cormac McCarthy reference!
That is one disturbing and educational novel!
2012 the year of Twolves porcelain extraction?
It is more than a little concerning that sci-fi
and British non-utopian novels show a future that is quite easy to envision and as bleak as Dicken’s London.
2012 the year of Twolves porcelain extraction?
starting w/ the best 5 makes sense
then they can play the last 8 minutes of the 4th quarter and be fresh, as opposed to ricky playing the last 14 minutes and being out of gas with two minutes left. PLUS playing your best five at the start of the game and at the half will give you a chance to get off on the right foot!
what the fuck seriously
why the hell do I watch this team every game? its so fricken annoying watching them suck it up
My theory is he is making these guys look like starters
so someone bites on a trade. Adelman knows he has more than a year.
@JayKlinkhammer
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College football is a joke.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
notenoughgoodplayeritis
fells us again
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I guess
bottom line, we are playing 2 rookies and after this game hopefully we have a much more strict foundation on who plays in crunch time and who starts the game.
I honestly would like to see us be the kind of team who rolls with the players who are playing the best in that game, but that never happens in the nba…
why does our team play so dumb we need to make 3 pointers
not that I expect us to come back and win but still jesus
Once again...
We shot 34%, you can’t win if you shoot 34% from the floor (Never mind our 79% from the line).
that is the #1 stat here
just COLD at the end
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by ChicagoViking on Jan 9, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
Not really that suprising
Wes, Wayne, Darko and Luke start. Dwill, Rubio, Toliver, JJ are on the bench.
it should be +20-ish
which is still significantly better. You can’t just add each bench players +/-.
Joe Mauer grounded into double play, second to shortstop to first, ________ out at second
this sucks worse because we almost have a for sure loss tomorrow
in which we will play awesome and lose by 1 point and call it a moral victory
so between our bench and our starters, we actually scored -43?
Wow, we do suck.
you can't just add them up like that
but yes the starters were pathetic tonight.
Joe Mauer grounded into double play, second to shortstop to first, ________ out at second
we win this stupid fucking game if we keep barea in
#FireRickAdelman anybody?!
He'd doin the right thing
since he just got off of injury
by Doug West Domination!!! on Jan 9, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
How is that doing the right thing?
Keeping his hamstring warmed up and active would be doing the right thing. Letting it stiffen up and get cold is a dick move.
Yeah, he should still be playing
the minute he stops it will give out.
Yeah right
Lets be serious and not try and back up what Adelman did tonight.
Typically, teams have these funny guys
with doctorates who advise teams on how to bring back players from injury.
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I wouldn't trust dropstep either
I mean, it’s not like he’s written anything about human biomechanics that has been published or anything.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
You'll note my reply
was to WW, not dropstep.
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Oh, I knew that
I was just unwise in choosing the comment I replied to in order to make my point.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
He probably asked Barea and the trainers first
I doubt he’d be so stupid as to make the problem worse.
I think his original plan was to give Barea just a couple minutes in a game that looked like it would be a blowout loss – and then Barea came back in and essentially willed us to the lead, but it didn’t matter since he and Adelman knew he was only going to play a few minutes tonight.
Toronto went all in for the win tonight
45 minutes for Bargnani, 40 for Calderon, 40 for Derozen. Sure would like to play them again at the tail end of their back-to-back-to-back
They went 6:16 without a field goal.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
He's not even worth mentioning on this thread anymore
He’s not an NBA player, D-League material
Joe Mauer grounded into double play, second to shortstop to first, ________ out at second
I don't think you can keep throwing Rubio in with 16 minutes left
And down 10 points and expect him to have any gas left for the final 3 minutes.
Yep
This was clearly going to become a problem
The Wolves are like the worst meal you've ever had--terrible while you're eating it and even worse later.
by Eric in Madison on Jan 9, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
there is a joke here
but I am sure it blows…
so I won’t say it
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by ChicagoViking on Jan 9, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
I'll just mention my favorite foundation
the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, proud purveyors of wood johnsons for over 3 generations…
2012 the year of Twolves porcelain extraction?
That's a really bad hip hop name.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
What would you rather have:
an all star that gets double doubles ever game, and a bad team that misses the play offs? or a really solid almost all start that gets double doubles in half his games but a a playoff team? Cuz right now Minn has the first one
by Kazper on Jan 9, 2012 8:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
For the record I think its possible to have both an all start double double machine and make the play offs
But it just hasn’t been happening yet
The handle, the Ridnour love, the Love animosity
you are so obviously a Eugene alum.
With a drinking problem.
by dropstep on Jan 9, 2012 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Um, please name someone who is the latter type of player
whom we could realistically trade for, or have acquired earlier, to replace Love.
by mg7505 on Jan 9, 2012 8:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I could name those players, not that you could trade for though
Its kind of like the issue i have with blazer fans… they all whine about hte PG we have, yet hes probably the best we can have without giving up an important piece
Exactly...
so unless there were some missed/potential opportunity to replace him, criticizing Love for not being the player we ideally need doesn’t help anyone.
I think there will be more field goals with Alabama LSU in their game
then the Wolves had in the 4th quarter
by Doug West Domination!!! on Jan 9, 2012 8:38 PM CST reply actions
I missed the game thread
But did we call out KLove for the multiple times he cost us points when he was too busy bitchin’ to the refs? Once when he simply did not hustle back for an entire play, and essentially gave Toronto a power play. The other time, he thought he drew the foul, was arguing with the ref….and while he did, Toronto tips it back in, Minnesota steals the ball, and passes it to Love….who has his back turned to the play.
Absolutely inexcusable, honestly. KLove is an amazing, ridiculously good player, but this has got to stop. Now. This isn’t just a super-star arguing for the points he deserves. This is costing us points.
by Dark_Aardvark on Jan 9, 2012 8:41 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Yep, we mentioned it a little. It's becoming one of his annoying traits.
Along with pump faking on almost every three point attempt.
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It worked that one early game!
Since then,not so much…
by Dark_Aardvark on Jan 9, 2012 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
It's one game, players have bad games
Kobe went 6/28 earlier this season. Let’s see how Love responds tomorrow. I remember last year he had that 0 point game vs Lakers and came back with 24 and 17 at OKC. He deserves the max, period.
Joe Mauer grounded into double play, second to shortstop to first, ________ out at second
He is a max player. Sorry.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Jan 9, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
You're just trolling now.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
I'd go with "trolling" if I were you.
It reflects better on you.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
Why? Because you disagree?
I took you for someone smarter than that.
Because with the months and years
of detailed, nuanced discussion on these points, and all of the video that’s been watched, and all of the data that have been pored over, the notion that Love is not “skilled enough” is idiotic at best. The idea that Love isn’t “athletic enough” has been put pretty well to rest as well.
"Of what use is a philosopher who does not hurt anybody's feelings?" -Diogenes of Sinope
by Cynical Jason on Jan 9, 2012 9:28 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
was wes johnon this bad last year?
i thought he had upside
Not this bad, but still awful.
Sub 40% from the field. 35% from 3. Never got to the line. PER of 10.2.
He has an upside the head
that needs to be smacked repeatedly.
When Pekovic gets his legs back and Beasley returns, who will be the 2 odd man out of the rotation?
The 5 off the bench, including AR, were marvelous. At least AR occasionally shows some potential. How about Wes Johnson? The standard 0-5 FG, 0 PF, 0 FTA, 2 TO. He’s still eligible to play in D-league, is he not?
by bluedevil_unicorno on Jan 9, 2012 8:47 PM CST reply actions
don't forget about malcolm lee, brad miller and webster
we gots lots of injuries
AR was bad btw
out of control on offense as usual. I’m ready to give up on him. He has bad hands and can’t score one-on-one, which doesn’t prevent him from trying. On defense Toronto bigs were bodying him up, cause he’s to weak and light.
We learned nothing from this game
Unless any of the following is news:
- For us to win, Love and Rubio both need to shine, and someone else needs to step up
- DWill is a beast, but needs to step up his defense.
- Our current wing players have zero game between them.
- JJ has said game, in spades.
- We could really use Webster and Lee right now.
- We could really use ANY competent wing player right now.
- Darko is terrible.
- Adolph might be worse.
- Pek is probably not good enough to play even ahead of Darko OR Adolph.
- We could really use Brad Miller’s corpse right now.
I stil;l think AR is somewhat valuable in the right matchup
his athleticism can offset his lack of a BBIQ in the right situation., and his contract isn’t all that dear.
2012 the year of Twolves porcelain extraction?
by Dogpile on Jan 9, 2012 9:06 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
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