Tim's Linsane!! Game Preview: Game 28, New York Knicks
by TimAllen on Feb 11, 2012 11:00 AM CST
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In the 24-hour sports news cycle, Jeremy Lin is providing the ultimate feel-good story...for the next few days or so.
Minnesota Timberwolves (13-14) vs. New York Knicks (12-15) at Target Center
It's a story that sounds straight out of Hollywood.
Nice kid with a love of basketball. No athletic scholarship offers out of high school. Attended Harvard University. Undrafted out of college. Sent to the D-League. A week away from likely getting cut from by his third NBA team.
Finally, when injury problems arise for the Knicks, he gets an opportunity against the New Jersey Nets. He plays 35 minutes, scores 25 points and dishes out 7 assists in a victory. In the following days, he is awarded his first NBA start against the Utah Jazz and goes for 28 points and 8 assists. Next, he matches up against John Wall and has his first career double-double with 23 and 10.
Last night, he takes on Kobe Bryant and the Los Angeles Lakers in front of a packed Madison Square Garden, where he explodes for 38 points, 7 assists, 4 rebounds and 2 steals.
It's almost too good of a story to believe...
America loves a rags-to-riches story.
All this one needs now is Sandra Bullock and a cheesy screenplay. Of course, knowing Hollywood, they'd probably make Lin's character white like they did with the main character in "21". Nevertheless, the national media, who has never been shy from turning fake weddings and a mediocre quarterback's devotion to God into months worth of headlines, has seized upon the hype and now true Linsanity has descended upon the sports world.
The problem with the national media is that when they are blinded by a shiny new toy, they never take the time to investigate the truth. Brett Favre is just an "aw shucks" quarterback, until he's found sending photos of his 4th and inches to a New York Jets cheerleader. Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa are home run champs, until it is discovered that even their bats were pumped full of steroids.
Jeremy Lin has secrets, and since no one else seems up to doing it, I need to take it upon myself to expose the truth.
Exhibit A: Did Jeremy Lin really graduate from Harvard?
Jeremy Lin supposedly graduated from Harvard University in 2010 with a degree in economics and a 3.1 GPA. Jeremy Lin is the first NBA player from Harvard since the 1950s and the first from an Ivy League school to suit up since the '02-'03 season (Matt Maloney, Penn; and Chris Dudley, Yale). There are some problems with Lin's tenure at Harvard, however.
First of all, take a look at this course list that I was able to obtain from Harvard archives:
A bit underwhelming if you ask me. There are some athletes who have coasted through school with special treatment from administrators and faculty. It appears that Lin may have been one of those athletes.
My sources claim that, despite the easy course list, Lin frequently received tutoring help from a student named Elle Woods and that Woods frequently took tests for Lin. Harvard business professor Josanfernee Smith remarked, "[Lin] would often have trouble understanding the matearial (sic) and I am not sure how he could have gotten through without some outside help."
While Lin does have a diploma, I could not verify the legitimacy of this document and could not reach Lin for comment. The conclusion seems pretty clear either way though: Jeremy Lin is an academic fraud.
Exhibit B: Is That Really Jeremy Lin?
Through important and trail-blazing documentaries such as Mission Impossible and Scooby Doo, the troubling problem of Impersonations has been exposed to the world. It starts off simple enough. You want to commit a crime of some sort, but you do not want to use your own face. So, you decide to make an exact replica mask to wear and commit said crime, which you would've gotten away with if it weren't for those meddling kids.
Is Jeremy Lin actually an imposter in a replica mask? If you look at the photo below, you can see that it is not a difficult task to pull off.
If those two gentlemen can so easily pull it off, what is to stop someone else from doing the same?
One of my theories is that LeBron James secretly wanted to play in New York, but would've felt bad saying no to his friends Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh. Therefore, in order to play for both teams, he puts on a mask, flies to New York and plays as Jeremy Lin. This theory just makes too much sense and there are too many coincidences to dismiss it outright.
Exhibit C: Did Jeremy Lin Take Ricky Rubio's Power?
In the movie 'Space Jam', the evil Mister Swackhammer and his minions, the "Nerdlucks", come to earth and steal the basketball talent of Shawn Bradley, Muggsy Bogues and other NBA stars. They called the team the "Monstars" and they used that talent to defeat the Looney Tunes, until Michael Jordan showed up.
Ever since Jeremy Lin began his hot streak in New York, Ricky Rubio has played noticeably worse. He only had one assist against Memphis and has turned the ball over 4 times in each of the last four games. Is it possible that Jeremy Lin is really an extra-terrestrial monster who took Ricky Rubio's talent and is using it for himself? I think the possibility is one that cannot be ignored.
Will Rubio be able to take back that power in tonight's game? Can Kevin Love play the role of MIchael Jordan in this live version of the movie? Is Wesley the Bill Murray of this scenario?
There are so many questions.
Despite signing Carmelo Anthony and Amar'e Stoudemire to expensive deals, it took a player who will make less than one million dollars this season to rejuvenate basketball in New York. Both of them should just retire now, move to foreign countries and spare themselves the embarrassment.
Projected Starting Lineups
C: Nikola Pekovic vs. Tyson Chandler
PF: Kevin Love vs. Jared Jeffries
SF: Wesley Johnson vs. Bill Walker
SG: Luke Ridnour vs. Landry Fields
PG: Ricky Rubio vs. Jeremy Lin
Mike D'Antoni's job may have been saved by a player who, according to sources in the Knicks organization, would have been out of one had his breakout performance against New Jersey never happened. It could also have been saved by the plate of homemade cookies that D'Antoni's mother brings to James Dolan after every game.
Last 5 Games
New York Knicks:
Loss at Boston 89-91
Win vs. New Jersey 99-92
Win vs. Utah 99-88
Win at Washington 93-107
Win vs. LA Lakers 92-85
Minnesota Timberwolves:
Win at New Jersey 108-105
Win vs. Houston 100-91
Win vs. Sacramento 86-84
Loss at Memphis 80-85
Loss vs. Dallas 97-104
Rubio has had 4 turnovers in each of his last 4 games and has shot only 30% over that stretch. He could not pick a better time than tonight to have a standout performance, given the national spotlight that will be affixed to this game.
Injuries
New York:
Carmelo Anthony - Out 1-2 weeks with a strained right groin
Baron Davis - Out indefinitely with a bad back
Josh Harrellson - Out at least six weeks after right wrist surgery
Amar'e Stoudemire - Out a week
Minnesota:
Darko Milicic - We all know why, don't we?
The NBA recently denied Kevin Love's request to keep an axe behind the Timberwolves' bench during games. As a result, he has threatened to stomp on one player's face per game until his axe request is granted.
Noteworthy Stats
- In 29 games with the Golden State Warriors last season, Jeremy Lin scored a total of 76 points. In the last 4 games with the New York Knicks, he scored 114 points.
- In this last 4 games, Lin improved his season scoring average from 4.0 points per game to 11.2 points per game.
- In the last two weeks alone, Jeremy Lin has upped his illegitimate child average from 0.0 to 2.6 per season
- Lin once gave this answer on a math test:
- Wesley Johnson has had more than twice as many turnovers (35) as made three point field goals (16) so far this season.
- The Wolves have lost 2 in a row for the fifth time this season. They lost three in a row to begin the season. Last season, the team had 11 streaks of 2 or more losses, including a 15 loss streak to finish the year.
- Ricky Rubio is shooting 35% (22% from three) in the month of February
- In the '11-'12 season, DJ Mad Mardigan has ruined an average of 3.4 songs per night, which is up from his '10-'11 average of 2.4 ruined songs per night
Enjoy the Linsanity while it lasts. You have until 7 PM CST tonight.
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great read!
I predict a 30/30 game froom Love and a 40 point game from Beasley!
by abcnerdd on Feb 11, 2012 11:20 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Did you know...
a unicorn’s natural prey is actually Ivy League Asians?
by Dr_Defecate on Feb 11, 2012 11:39 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
My thoughts
1. Unlike Tebow, Favre and Lebron. Lin is an underdog and also I believe a refreshing story for the NBA. He was a Harvard graduate, went to college 4 years and finally sees his hard work paying off.
There are numerous articles being written about what this means to the Asian-American community. These articles seem to make sense to me and I think they only make this a more interesting story.
I think at some point is FG % is going to drop, but I still hope he has a good NBA career.
2. Also they Knicks win streak is an interesting story especially without Carmelo and Amare. It also makes we wonder if Carmelo is so great when you look at how the Knicks and nuggets are playing right now.
Maybe he’s just a JR Rider who’s teams have decided to give him more liberty to shoot as much as he wants.
3. I think Pekovic is a starting legitimate center. He is an aggressive player and I think we’ll see more 20-10 games from him. I also like Darko though to as he seems like the only player on our team that can block shots.
Melo is not a team playerm that's for sure
It’s starting to become obvious to me that Melo has just been a one man show on each team he’s been on.
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 11, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
"Melo has just been a one man show on each team he's been on"
thats not true. his teams in denver were some of the best offenses in the league. you don’t do that with just one guy.
this season has been a weird one from melo, he’s never played this bad before.
i think people need to try not to overreact to melo’s one bad season. after all, he has been hurt. His domination of the ball has been puzzling though.
Carmelo Anthony's USG% over time
28.5 <— Rookie year
29.2
32.0
33.4
30.2
31.5
33.4
32.0
32.5
31.0
32.7
His domination of the ball might be puzzling in some sense, but in terms of possessions ‘Melo uses, it’s basically right in line with his career numbers.
The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.
usage rate doesn't take into account the amount of time melo has the ball in his hands.
that’s what’s been insane this season.
Anyone surprised by Carmelo Anthony dominating the ball.... *That* surprises me.
The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.
I just think it's funny how Denver is thriving without him
That was a great trade. It was only a matter of time before Gallo blew up. Wanted Kahn to get him last year. Hopefully if Love leaves us in 3 years, we can rebound in a similar fashion.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
I love that Denver is thriving without him.
Melo is the kind of player I’d hate to root for.
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
Are you a B-Easy fan?
Is he molded in the Melo-type?
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
I'm hopeful that Beasley
can get it together and become a good player for the Wolves—but that’s because I hope that he can erase his Melo-like tendencies. I’m afraid, though, that his inclination is to play more like Melo, and that would both destroy his usefulness to this team and make me less likely to watch him.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
sorry to dredge up the Dallas loss...
but why didn’t Adelman put in B-Easy? this was the exact scenario where he needed to play.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
8-11, 20 pts, 29 min
he hit 2 threes during a critical run in the 3rd where they cut it to 5.
then he pulled him out?!@??!? what the heck?
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
-23 for Pek
i’m a Pek fan, but he doesn’t do well against length. 6-14.
but i’m not a Darko hater. we still need the Darko/Pek 2 headed monster.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
If the refs had been calling fouls inside,
Pek would have been 6-8 with who knows how many free throws. Dirk was always there for help-D (No more “-irk”) and they let him get away with a lot of fouls.
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
i don't think this goes counter to my Darko/Pek 2 headed monster statement
Pek can be even more aggressive and e-pek-tive if he has Darko’s 6 fouls backing him up.
i guess my point is that Pek needs Darko.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
I actually posted
my enthusiasm for Darko’s possible return last night. I said at the time, “It’s good to have options.” I don’t know that Pek needs Darko, but Adelman can’t be afraid of fouling out his center if the other option is to sit the center for the rest of the game. It was ridiculous.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
too simplistic, but...
- Pek is better at O.
- Darko is better at D.
you’re right. more options is good.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
he's there to teach the offense and be a ploach
like Scalabrine
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
Like I said
Darko for all that he lacks is the only player on the team that can average more than a block a game.
and I haven’t forgotten how he played against Griffith either.
Andy Griffith?
Or Blake Griffin?
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
this forum has no room for Opie / Ron Howard / Luke Ridnour jokes
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
He had five fouls.
Adelman seems really conscious of fouls. There was a game a little while ago when Pek was playing e-PEK-tively, but got his fourth foul in the third quarter. He never saw the court again. It was weird.
Then again, Beas did have some dumb plays. Right after he hit the second of his big threes he made a stupid defensive play. Maybe that was it.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
that is what we are all hoping for
and I think its possible. The last few games I think he’s played under control even when not shooting lights out
I had no seen much of Melo because he was out in Denver...
but he has to have the ball in his hands to get going and he moves well enough but is not really a point forward with his ball handling skills and the Knicks offense goes iso a lot with him taking a lot of tough shots with the others standing around and watching a lot. He does not attack the rim enough. Amare looked really good in the game against the Bulls recently attacking the rim a lot off the jumper, but the chemistry between those two (him and Melo) is not there.
"Booze takes a lot of time and effort if you're going to do a good job with it."
― Raymond Carver, Where I'm Calling From: New and Selected Stories
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
I also think it's funny how Denver was thriving with Melo pre-trade
WCF and multiple playoff wins is nothing to scoff at. Did thus group even win a game in the playoffs without Melo? Lets see what happens when 9 man rotations aren’t quite as handy in the sprint that is a playoff series
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by VoodooMagic on Feb 11, 2012 5:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This is what caught my attention
They seem like a pretty tough team in spite of not having a superstar and having a team full on Knicks players
idk if his FG% will drop that much.
obviously the 56% is a ridiculous number, but he’s getting layups! i guess if teams start taking away his drives to the basket, he might start forcing up some more jumpers. But I don’t see him doing that once amare and melo are back.
Might I add ...
not on FSN where we instead get the $#@*&% Wild.
Will it be on the other fsn channel?
by abcnerdd on Feb 11, 2012 11:50 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nope
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 11, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
Here's what I hope for
Lin has an absolutely ridiculous game, but NYK lose.
In fact, this is what I hope for in every Knick game now.
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
Me too.
Maybe we are the same person . . .
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
I hope Lin goes 0-for-15
so everyone can start noticing how good Rubio’s defense is.
by LoveTo on Feb 11, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, if they let Pek play like Hayward got to
Lin will be lucky to leave the court under his own power
Yo ho ho and a FirstRow stream!
i've got this one under control
i’ll be wearing this “jersey” during the game:
by illwafer on Feb 11, 2012 11:51 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Also I would like to point out that I think he did get a lot of athletic scholarship offers, he just chose to go to Harvard where they don't give them
Still a good story
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Not true
He received zero Division I athletic scholarships despite being one of the best high school players in the state of California, he was offered as a walk on by UCLA, not guaranteed a spot. He went to Harvard instead, where there’s no athletic scholarships offered. The only other team who showed interest was Yale. So he didn’t choose to go to Harvard to play basketball. Stanford and UCLA showed little to no interest
"David Kahn doesn't like it, so I'm going to keep it." - Kevin Love on growing his beard.
by GWST11 on Feb 11, 2012 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting
I heard something to the contrary but I’ll take your word
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 11, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
This was brought up earlier. Just because PAC 12 schools say no doesn’t mean you can’t get a scholarship. He clearly had no interest in playing anywhere but either the Ivy League or a PAC 12 school in California. That’s why he didn’t get a scholarship. If he were open to playing for, say, Santa Clara, like Steve Nash did, he would have had an offer.
I was mainly choosing between Harvard, Stanford, and Cal. I wasn’t getting any scholarships from Stanford or Cal but in terms of Cal I just didn’t really like it there when I visited it there…
by Ray Williams? on Feb 11, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't think it was possible
but Wesley Johnson is approaching, or surpassed by some measures, Jonny Flynn’s train wreck of a season last year:
There's no way
Wes has actually had some decent stretches. Flynn was unbearable.
This is just the eye test though
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 11, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
yeah stats don't tell everything
Keep in mind Wes just takes shots when he gets them, while Flynn was running the entire offense, fast breaks etc.
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 11, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
I actually agree
Wes at least provides some degree of effort on defense. Flynn was horrible in all facets of the game. I guess I’m just pissed that Adelman sticks with Wes. Webster hasn’t exactly been good either, but who do you trust more to eventually find his shot, Wes or Martell? I know my answer.
by Rascal Flatts on Feb 11, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not ready to give up on BrickMamba!
It is hard to defent him right now, but he has some talent and I’m sure he will figure it out someday….
by fantajohn on Feb 11, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Wes
May look better, simply because he is playing on a better team. (better coached team)
"pokin' the animals at the Canis Hoopus zoo"
by pastyearsears on Feb 11, 2012 6:28 PM CST up reply actions
Our "Noteworthy Stats" category could turn into a sort of Harper's Index.
Juxtaposing players and teams using oddball numbers, you know.
The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.
I have to say Lin is a more complete PG than our Rubio so far.
Lin shoots the ball well and attack the rim relentlessly.
4 games
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 11, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
He's a better scorer, for sure.
Jeremy Lin of the last four games is probably a better overall player than Rubio too. But I’d still take Ricky over 4 hot games from Lin.
Lin shoots the ball well
4 games is now an acceptable sample size?
Also, Rubio is a far better defender. That’s kind of an important factor in determining who is a more “complete” player.
and sample size be damned
Lin is only a better scorer, Rubio is better at everything else. So…
by TO12 on Feb 11, 2012 4:55 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Apparently, the first edition was released by mistake.
There have been some changes…
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first edition of what?
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 11, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
Anyone see the racist tweet about Lin by Whitlock?
Hope that POS gets fired
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
wow that's pathetic
"David Kahn doesn't like it, so I'm going to keep it." - Kevin Love on growing his beard.
What are you talking about?
“a couple of inches”? How is that not racist? That’s ridiculous.
I think there is a difference..
Between actually being a racist and making a bad joke about a dumb sterotype.
bullshit
if there’s anything more pathetic than a racist joke, it’s the followup “hey, dude, I’m not racist. It’s just a joke. Lighten up.” Racists are racists because of their beliefs and their actions.
And where do you get off defending the loser? Are you some kind of character witness?
If you read what I wrote
You would see that all I have said is that I don’t think he should be fired over it and I don’t think he is an actual racist person. I’m not defending what he said. “Where do you get off?” is a pretty agressive thing to float out there.
The thing about Whitlock
Is that he was fired from ESPN for running off his mouth against co-workers – one of which he accused of engaging in bojanglery (who’s playing up stereotypes now, Jason?) – so this isn’t exactly his first offense. Also, when you trade in words and opinions like Whitlock does, you take much more heat for the things you say, especially when an athlete is involved. I don’t think he should be fired, but I think it would be warranted if his employer decides to fire him.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
No. See, I did read what you wrote. That's the problem.
You keep insisting that the guy is not a racist. What do you base that on?
I have a high opinion of CH posters as a group. It’s disappointing to see somebody here playing the apologist for some asshole who thinks its okay to spew racist bullshit in the mass media in order to make a profit.
Sigh
I have a high opinion of CH posters as well. It’s disappointing to see somebody asking me “Where I get off” for simply posting my opinion.
First of all: I said I don’t think he is racist, not that I know he’s not. How would I know for sure? I don’t know him. I’m saying his comment last night does not prove he IS racist. To me, being a racist is harboring a real hatred/dislike for a race or culture. Do you think Whitlock hates Asain people based on his dumb remark? We might be just defining this differently. Do you think any stand up comic that has ever made a race joke is a real racist? Maybe you do, I do not. That’s fine, we can disagree. I respect your passion but I do not respect your aggression, your inability to acknowledge what I am saying or your implication that I somehow decrease the overall IQ here at CH.
Note to Mods: If this is getting out of hand let me know and I’ll move on. I know we stray from ball sometimes, but I’m not sure if the meaning of racism is something you want discussed here.
The old patronizing sigh? Classy touch.
Not the biggest Whitlock guy but he isn’t racist…
Oops, looks like you did state, point blank, that the guy isn’t a racist. Why would you say that when you don’t know anything about it?
Me? I only know he looks like a duck and quacks like a duck. He apparently thinks its okay to say racist things for the consumption of the public. I don’t owe him any benefit of the doubt. He might be a decent person who views all individuals with an open mind. I don’t give a shit after what he tweeted. Fuck him.
Lastly, if you toss off an unsupported opinion (like “I don’t think he is racist”) in the face of evidence to the contrary, you should be ready to see that opinion get attacked.
Alright
I’ll admit that mistake, I meant to say I don’t think he is. You didn’t respond to my question about stand up comics by the way. I don’t have a problem with debate or disagreement, but I didn’t like the “Where do you get off?” thing. Many people disagreed with me, you were by far the most agressive about it. You probably won’t even see this, but I wanted to admit my error and again bring up the stand up comic thing.
One more thing: My opinion was not “unsupported”, if anything, you are in the minority or the guy would have been fired the following day. Other people said pretty much the same thing I did on this very thread.
I didn't weigh in either way on whether he should be fired or not.
That is of secondary importance to me. The fact that I might be in the minority means even less.
You are the only person on this thread who I saw responding to multiple comments from others by downplaying the significance of the tweet in question. I don’t know why you pursued it like that, and I don’t care. But I feel no qualms about speaking very forthrightly as I did. There is not a lot of middle ground on topics like racism and hate speech. A jackass like whitlock is obviously not part of the solution to the problem of racism, and if there weren’t a million other jackasses like that who think speech like that is funny or acceptable, the problem wouldn’t be what it is today.
You want to amend what you said- I can accept that.
I don’t know if you think you were owed some courtesy that you didn’t receive, but I think you were treated fairly. I perceived that you were defending a particularly douchey individual, and I asked you “Where do you get off defending the loser?” I was offended by the position that you seemed to be taking and you were offended by my statement.
Your “I don’t think he is racist” is still unsupported unless you can answer this question: “What do you base that on?” Like you said, you don’t know the guy just like I don’t know the guy.
Why don’t we let it lie?
Sounds good
Not sure why I got so caught up in this, I typically stick to talking ball here. No problem dropping it, just didn’t want it to appear like I just left after being called out on my error.
for all you young cats out there, google Jimmy "the Greek"
He’s bred to be the better athlete because this goes way back to the slave period. The slave owner would breed this big black with this big woman so he could have a big black kid. That’s where it all started.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 13, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
In summary:
The tweet was racist. Does that make him one for life? You seem to think yes, I say not necessarily (sorry this was meant for the end of the previous post)
it wasn't a mistake, he's not a racist, it's planned
this was deliberate. sells more Charmin toilet paper during ESPN commercials.
he should be fired. it’s actually worse if he didn’t know what he was saying.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
He shouldn't be fired
Because he didn’t use Jeremy Lin’s name in the tweet. Honestly, that leaves enough wiggle room for me. It’s a bad tweet, a terrible joke, but there’s no need to want to destroy the guy’s life over it.
by princelyfrank on Feb 11, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
it's not destroying the guy's life
he can go find another job.
media types know they need to be particularly careful w/their words.
it’s an egregious error for his job description. other types (e.g. doctors, construction workers, etc.) can make this mistake… but not NBA media types.
I don’t want construction workers to make errors on the amount of cement required in the foundation. NBA media types shouldn’t be making racist jokes.
fired.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 6:49 PM CST up reply actions
if he's not racist
then he shouldn’t say racist shit. i mean, how much effort does it take to just NOT say that?
i don’t care whether he is bigoted or not. i just think that actions do, in fact, define people.
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Very good point
I’d like to hear somebody comment on my stand up comic comparison. Jason Whitlock is not a professional comedian, but he was clearly trying to be funny. In your opinion, are comics that make racial jokes actual racists?
no, but unadulterated humor is a key part of the comedian job description
humor is only a smaller detail for NBA media… not a key component. that being said, they need to be careful w/their use of humor.
comedians can say what they want… part of the job description & expectations.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
would you want your brain surgeon to be joking around when you're on the table?
we’ll… I don’t like NBA media inferring that Chinese and ASian men have 2 inch peckers.
sure, if a comedian says it, sure… funny. whatever. but it’s a different scenario.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
dude doesn't need to be fired for a non-PC statement/joke
but the dude needs to be fired for incompetence. what an idiot.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 6:37 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe he will get canned, I don't care
I just don’t think we need to get all worked up and demand that it happen. If his employer thinks that’s what he deserves then that works for me.
Last thing on this
Sean Jensen is an Asian American sportswriter, he had this to say on this whole deal:
@skjensen Sean Jensen
Few have asked me about @WhitlockJason tweet last night. Known him a long time. He’s a columnist I respect and admire. We all make mistakes
This is pretty much all I meant, idiotic comment, don’t think he is evil or should be fired. Please don’t think I endorse the joke.
Ok all done
I just don't think the guy is worthy of any protection.
If the guy gets fired nobody should cry about it.
How would you feel if you got fired from your job?
Because of a tweet? Or just a single bad joke you made at work that offended somebody? Do you have no empathy whatsoever? Wouldn’t it be enough for him to get yelled at by his bosses about it?
by princelyfrank on Feb 11, 2012 6:47 PM CST up reply actions
people should get fired for incompetence
doctors that leave medical tools inside bodies should be fired.
chefs that poison people w/unsanitary habits should be fired.
media types that don’t understand words should be fired.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 6:51 PM CST up reply actions
the dude has 119k Twitter followers
that’s an EGREGIOUS mistake.
i can make that mistake b/c i have 2 Twitter followers and I’m not a member of the media.
that’s a MAJOR screw up on his part.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 6:53 PM CST up reply actions
I post this a lot because I like it a lot.
I think it applies here. I don’t know if Whitlock should be fired, but his tweet demonstrates, at the very least, that he has problems with making good decisions.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
good video
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 11, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, that's one for college first year orientation.
The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.
Fucken hate whitlock before this
because Im a chiefs fan. what a douche
That is pretty bad.
Go here to fox sports.com and write a complaint! Let’s get this racist POS fired!
http://msn.foxsports.com/feedback
Come on man
Not the biggest Whitlock guy but he isn’t racist and nobody needs to try to mobilize and have him fired. He made a bad joke.
by MoreJuice on Feb 11, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
he does kind of suck though
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 11, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
Won't argue that
I just don’t think that, when somebody screws up, everyone needs to freak out and demand they be fired.
that depends
if you are that big of an idiot that your fuck-up is emblazoned on Twitter…potentially forever…then yeah, I’d say the employer has a right to dismiss you. If not for the mistake itself, because incompetence of that magnitude generally does not occur as an isolated incident.
I have no idea who this guy is. Does currently have a job?
Reason is the first victim of strong emotion.
("Twitter...potentially forever"?)
Html doesn’t have a </stone tablet> tag that I’m aware of.
The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.
I'm not aware of a tag either
that doesn’t mean someone won’t invent one. In truth, I haven’t read the complete HTML5 spec yet.
Also, I did say potentially didn’t I?
Reason is the first victim of strong emotion.
Yeah, okay, and I'm just funnin'.
But do you think anything on Twitter will be remembered “forever”? Or for more than two weeks?
The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.
Yep, he's a writer for Fox Sports (formerly of ESPN)
http://msn.foxsports.com/writer/Jason_Whitlock
From what I’ve read of his stuff, he’s pretty good at what he does. He just needs to remember to keep his mouth shut when stupid or inflammatory things pop into his head.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
Thanks for the link
I can’t say that I’ve ever read anything of his…but I can’t say that I haven’t either.
Reason is the first victim of strong emotion.
He may well not be racist, but...
…he made a racist joke publicly. Not sure why he shouldn’t catch some heat for it.
A bad racist joke to boot.
I think this is the first time in history one man managed to destroy an entire city by himself. Even the Enola Gay had a flight crew.
Catching heat is one thing
Mobilizing in an effort to chop his head off is another.
Had an Asain media member made a similar bad joke about an African American athlete (only the ahem, opposite sterotype), would the outrage be the same? I don’t know. I’m afraid of this conversation on many levels. Back to basketball for me.
Why?
Why should he be saved for making a racist joke publicly? What is defensible about that? Are you really going to feel sorry for this guy if he does get axed?
It was derogatory and its only purpose was to get a laugh while promoting a stereotype. There is nothing good here.
If they fire him I won't lose sleep
I don’t care that much at all about him or this entire ordeal. I just think that people often jump to the “gotta fire him!” stance too quickly.
I keep trying to drop this but I just want it to be clear that I am not defending his tweet, it was stupid and racist. I just think it’s possible to, in an effort to be funny, screw up and make a racist joke, doesn’t always make that individual a racist person.
Some lucky lady in NYC is gonna feel 11 inches of pain tonight.
Do some folks find the humor in this because of the following?
1. Stereotype that Afican-American males are endowed with a 5th appendage that forces the nickname “Tripod”?
2. Stereotype that African-AMericans are criminals that should be incarcerated and that this is a Twitter user reporting a possible assault and battery in that rat-infested city?
3. That the Twitter user actually short-changed the average length 1.75 inches according to the Indian Kinsey studies?
Everyone needs to be mindful of what is said in the public and workplace (and Twitter is a media staffer’s workplace). In this new PC world, what could have been said a couple of decades ago & ignored as craziness… now can be the fastest ticket to lose one’s job (or thrown in jail). See examples below. Any one of these statements said in today’s workplace will probably get you booted in an hour or less.
A. Hey, n-gger boy. Why don’t you shine my shoes and pick some cotton since my great grandpaps owned your whole broken family. Just kidding, Jerome. Let’s get some lunch after this report.
B. For a 17 year old intern, you got a bangin’ butt that I want to anally violate & rape against your will. I want you naked like a Holocaust victim in Nanking. Just kidding, Susie-Ann. Let’s get some lunch after this report.
C. I’m depressed. I have a bomb in my trenchcoat and I feel Columbine / VA Tech today. You’re old, so you’ve already lived long enough. Just kidding, Jerry. Let’s get some lunch after this report.
Folks, we’ve lost the freedom to be free with our crazy ass thoughts. Folks need to keep their jokes to private parties. Otherwise, they need to face the wrath and accept the consequences of their actions.
If you can’t joke about everything, you can’t joke about nuttin. Someone will be insulted.
Why did the Mexican guy at the orange factory lose his job. He couldn’t concentrate.
Innocent? Why is this joke making fun of unemployment? DO all Mexicans pick oranges as migrant workers? Are factories dumping toxic waste into the ocean.
Silly… but keep jokes to yourself. Fire this guy for his idiocy.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
On a side note, Pek isn't gonna play well today.
Chandler’s length will bother Pek.
But since Jeremy Lin isn’t long, he shouldn’t have a problem with his limited length.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
Whitlock needs to be fired
I want my brain surgeons to have a good bedside manner. Could you imagine the following statement from your doc? “Dude, your skull looks jacked. I’m glad I ain’t you. I’ll try to biopsy that malignant tumor, but honestly, you’re screwed, dude.”
Media staffers that Tweet crazy statements to sell more widgets need to be fired.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
(In fact surgeons are often brusque, and aren't known for "bedside manners" much at all.)
The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.
im so confused
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 11, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
I'm pleased to say that I really had to study that one
before I “got” it.
I really didn’t think people were that stupid anymore, then I read this morning’s Pioneer Press and learned that a West St. Paul city council member has a Stars’n’Bars hanging on his back deck.
The more “some” people insist we’re a post-racist society, the more sure I am that we’re not.
Yo ho ho and a FirstRow stream!
of course we aren't
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
Somewhere in the future
I hope such comments will be disparaged as much as revelations of sexually abusive insecurity as racial put downs. The dumb broad, the new celebrity dick-brain, pain inflicted in conflict, Yeesh.
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by pastyearsears on Feb 11, 2012 6:55 PM CST up reply actions
i don't know what to think
rubio is much better than lin, but lin is red hot and can do no wrong right now. i saw the highlights of last nights’ game and he was making ridiculous circus shots with the defense in his face (and making his open jumpers too).
i think ricky can have a good game today on offense (he hasn’t had 3 bad games in a row so far), but i can’t see him slowing down lin that much because he is finding people and everything he puts up goes down at the moment.
matchup of the night either way… who would have thunk that a couple of months ago? that’s why i love this game.
Luke definitely cannot play big minutes today
as landry field is their 2, and there is no way luke can guard landry fields in the post. Wes also cant due to the fact that he sucks
I'll admit I have linsanity... Its why I enjoy sports to see stories like that.
The question about stopping lin really comes down to pick and role defense. If you struggle in that then you will struggle against Lin.
The outrageously funny thing is...
The idea that Jeremy Lin is that evil Alien from Spacejam is almost as believable Linsanity itself. Feel like that’s how ridiculously awesome this story has become lol.
TV question
Forgive my ignorance on the subject, but since this is obviously not being aired locally on FSN, is it possible that some sports bars with a good satellite package could show the NY broadcast? Or short of buying a ticket or finding a shady feed, are we just SOL?
SOL I believe
No NBA TV, so I doubt any bars are going to have it. Could be wrong though
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 11, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
ya
It’s a league pass game, so bars will have it
by TO12 on Feb 11, 2012 4:59 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
ah, youre right
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 11, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks! Clearly I'm not the first person to ask about that.
Thanks for the list. I was considering popping into Hubert’s if I can’t get a decent deal out of a scalper tonight, I figured if anyone could show it, they would.
yeah I was wondering the same thing
A Twins playoff ticket against the Yanks would be an easier ticket to score than this game for some odd reason. Atleast I will be able to watch it at Huberts
A good night for Ricky...
to go over 20 points mark
Rubio eats fresh Lins for breakfast...
just after Pek has ground them.
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
League Pass
Anyone know if League Pass is getting the Knicks broadcast tonight since no local TV?
At least a silver lining out of last night's game for the Lakers.
Now they don’t have to compete with the Knicks for Jonny Flynn’s services.
If Pek was on the Knicks,
the media would be talking about the “Pektacle”
Rubios - "Clinically PROVEN to Help Reduce Suckiness"
He'll be pretty much bottled up on the bench cause of Tyson.
Tyson is doing well. Pektacle sounds terrible, Pekcutioner is much better.
A void? I see no void!
The pekolution?
you know like revolution.
or “peklection day”
you know like election day
or “Peksgiving day”
Another CLASSIC TWOLVES Moment
That this game isn’t on TV…..LOL
that almost guarantees something good will happen for the Wolves
doesn’t it?
Reason is the first victim of strong emotion.
I'm thinking 20 dimes for Ricky vs. 40 pts for Lin
Followed by 3 days of talking heads debating who had the better game.
Wilbon: “I’m going to go w/ Ricky but I just want to say how lucky I feel to live in a country where you can watch a basketball game like that. Just shoot me, cause I’m ready to die now.”
by fanslaststand on Feb 11, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not as if anything excited ever happens win the Wolves play the Knicks.
;) I remember a particularly historic T-Wolves-Knicks game that they didn’t televise.
Whoa
They are going to sell 500 SRO tickets for tonight’s game. SRO! for the Wolves!
I was debating going to the game tonight
But it was like 25 bucks for nosebleeds. I remember when this team wasn’t popular at all…
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 11, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
Anywhere else to view this game?
Dear god, FSN.
You would have gotten lucky with LINsanity + Rubio/Love and….this is the game to not televise.
Why would you EVER not put on a game with a NY team involved?
I've been watching Jeremy Lin highlight videos
and trying to come up with a player comp for him. So far, the best I can come up with is Stephon Marbury. To me, the similarities are in how they carry themselves, how they move, and their focus on scoring. Both are decent-to-good distributors, but they’re both just fearless going to the rack and solid shooting from outside.
If he can be a sane Marbury, he’s a real find.
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Oh, and circus shots, too.
Some of those shots Lin puts up are ridiculous, but somehow they go in.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
mix marbury's ability to finish at the rim
with Nash’s ability to penetrate and kick out, and run the pick and roll.
however, his shooting is suspect..
eh, i take that back
not marbury, more like tony parker. marbury was much stronger than Lin when driving to the hoop. lin is much more crafty, like TP
I don't know about the strength thing.
Lin was showing some real toughness against the Lakers.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 6:08 PM CST up reply actions
oh ya for sure
fisher tried to rough him up, and lin wouldn’t let it bother him. He’s just doesn’t bully people during his drives to the basket like marbury
Last night Lakers Knicks game was on ESPN
With Hubie Brown calling it. Sadly, it was far more entertaining than our turnover laden affair.
Lin has a very high BBIQ and plays the right way. Looking for a lot of attacking the rim tonight.
Another player to look for is Iman Shumpert. He attacks the rim like crazy. I’m hoping Lee is a similar player. Would be a big help to have a player like that for us.
Malcolm Lee - 2nd rd - 43rd pick
those are high expectations…
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
Really referring to type of player
Long, good D, attacks the hoops. Isn’t that what Lee is supposed to be like?
Going to the game tonight
Back in town for the first time in a year. Which was also the last time I went to a game.
Excited, I am.
/Yoda’d
by Coolhwhip on Feb 11, 2012 4:58 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Have fun!
If last night is any indication, it should be a great atmosphere.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks a bunch.
Of course I forgot the Rubio Spain jersey back at college, natch.
by Coolhwhip on Feb 11, 2012 5:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Gah! That would have been epic!
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
We cannot start Luke and Wes again and win
Landry Fields, one of the taller SG in the game, is going to abuse Luke. And Wes is wes, so he should not start.
Actually, for this game
I’d be inclined to start Wes at SG to check Fields, but never give Wes the ball on offense.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
Rofl
I wish Twolves could send Wes to D-League to get in some type of a rhythm for as long as he needs to. Knowing Wes, he would probably struggle as soon as he got to the D-league, but I think he would eventually start to get much better there.
And he could start, but so could Martell Webster. I feel like everyone is so out of wack because one they aren’t thinking on the court, but also because they are not getting enough playing time to get into any kind of groove. Too many players for too little minutes…
Martell's trying too hard.
Dude’s motor was roaring last night, but all of his extra energy expended just served to make him fail harder. If he can stop playing like he’s trying to impress Ellington’s girlfriend, he’ll be an asset. Playing like a spaz doesn’t help anyone.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
I agree. Barea, Rubio, and a lot of our players seem to be trying way too hard.
They all just need to step back, calm down, and play smarter basketball. As you say, use that extra energy in short bursts of speed when necessary instead or running around everywhere without purpose.
haha, go Wes!
I predict two long range-bombs from Wes. Today is the first day of the rest of his life…
I’m still a believer…
sorry about the broken record...
if Luke ain’t in, who is gonna stretch the floor and keep spacing on a consistent basis? That spacing is critical. as a Bulls fan, I cringe when Ronnie Brewer is in the game. sure, he’s improved his 3 point shooting… but his presence still screws up the spacing. clogs the ane. less space for D. Rose to dive. less space for Boozer to post. just like Korver’s D stinks… and Luke’s D stinks… they still space the floor when they’re not shooting well.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
btw, Wayne ain't an adequate reply
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
Thats why
you go down low, and play inside outside game imo.
you can't if there's no spacing...
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
A lot of
players on our team can hit open 3s. The problem starts when they start to force shots. Beasley, Love, Rubio, Tolliver, Barea, Ellington can all hit open 3s
i think Barea might be the solution
but then you wear down the Unicorn if he has to guard the larger guy…
gotta trade Wes for a wing.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
Idk
I think the unicorn gets more worn out when he guards the PG instead of the SG. And it would be nice to trade Wes, but we probably wont get a lot back at this point which sucks.
And I think going into the post would put the other team in the bonus very early. Pek and especially love is good at drawing fouls in the post.
agreed on inside out...
start w/Pek… and then space the floor w/Love and Rid. Ricky’s guy will sag and help b/c of lack of respect of outside shot.
so far… that leaves Rubio’s guy clogging the middle. who will be the 5th? Wes?
it’s key for Rid to be on the floor for an inside presence. Ricky doesn’t space the floor, but he has to be out there.
to quote Princess Leia, “Ridnour is our only hope.”
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
btw, as a Bulls fan, I'm fixated on spacing
Boozer’s inside game has been sub-par w/the Bulls b/c of lack of spacing.
- Noah goes out of his way w/his foolish “gun shooter” display of happiness when he hits an outside shot. that guy’s outside shot (albeit somewhat reliable) isn’t far enough. (hence, why you can’t play Pek and Darko at the same time).
- Brewer (& Bogans last year) don’t stretch the floor. more clogging…
- Rose wants to drive the ball. more clogging…
- Deng & Rose can shoot, but still not enough post room for Boozer.
moral of story: Ridnour (and his lack of length and D and penetration) is a necessary evil. his outside J (or threat of one) is critical for spacing.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 6:01 PM CST up reply actions
Idk
I dont think its a good move for a team to compromise defense for offense.
Especially when if
1. ridnour guards a pg, the pg penetrates with ease every single time
2. ridnour guards a sg, the sg can just shoot over the dude or drive if he is a good finisher.
Rid's help D ain't atrocious
it’s not all RId’s fault.
the bigs gotta help on D.
people blow by D. Rose all the time… but his bigs help.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 6:06 PM CST up reply actions
Why not
Ellington, Barea, or Beasley?
They can stretch the D meaning that all they have to to is knock down open 3s.
b/c their outside shot ain't as good
Ridnour has proven that his outside J is solid.
Barea is good, but still not on par with Rid’s.
Beasley & Ellington are not consistent.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 6:04 PM CST up reply actions
I mean
if Ridnour hits half his shots, thats still not good enough because he is getting beat every single time on D.
That’s not only showing up in his defender’s point totals, but the fouls and points in transition Twolves give up. Ridnour cant stop the dribble or the shot. Basically he is detrimental to the D. At least Kyle Korver has the size to contest shots.
Ridnour covers the Unicorn. Darko covers the double-double machine.
Rubio’s lack of shot is killing spacing. Rid has to be out there w/Rubio.
Love is short & not a shot blocking presence. Darko has to be there to cover his flaws.
Wes is there for the starter’s lack of athleticism. Someone has to catch the Rubioops.
don’t get me wrong, I’m a Rubio/Pek/Love fan… but the others are there to cover up their pimples & receiving a lot of flak for it.
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 6:19 PM CST up reply actions
How does that convo go?
“Hey, please take our terrible wing and give us one of your ok ones.”
…click
Been hearing this since before the season started
But it ain’t happening.
"pokin' the animals at the Canis Hoopus zoo"
by pastyearsears on Feb 11, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
Wes must start
or else how can you build enough trade value for him?
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 5:45 PM CST up reply actions
Put him
into D league. Watch him struggle with his confidence there for a while. Then I believe he will start to get into a rhythm, and bring him back up instead of putting him out there over and over with the same exact results.
is Thabeet still in the D-League?
I think that’s officially a bust of a #2 pick.
IMO, Wes & AR should be the top trade fodder
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
"Wes & AR should be the top trade fodder"
Sure, but neither is worth anything. We got AR for Corey Brewer and Wes is one of the worst players in the league.
but displaying your athleticism and natural length does
a lot of teams could use some athleticism
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
Wes played 13 min Dallas
is that 13 too many?
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
Yes.
He was terrible, but he was worst at the beginning of the game. His 0-3 was early and set the tone for the Wolves offense. Just awful. He should maybe play 5 minutes of spot duty in non-critical junctures.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
is it time to cut bait on Wes?
and start utilizing Martell more?
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by ronatcampzama on Feb 11, 2012 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
I don't see how he improves.
His effort is fine, his defense is pretty good, and he does alley-oops and follow-slams with the best, but his shot is beyond broken. Every time he puts something up I know it will miss, and I think I’ve only been wrong a couple of times. He should be the one working out with Chuck Person—not Ricky. Well, okay, Ricky can work with the Rifleman too, but We needs it more.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 6:19 PM CST up reply actions
Martel needs to get that aweful spin move out
and take his effort level down 5% when cutting and on D so he’s under control but at least he has an actual outside shot. I Really don’t know why Wes is getting the burn and Martel is benched.
We gonna win tonight!
Everytime before i go to bed i predict to my girlfriend how the game will turn out. Today she is at her parents place, so I will tell to you guys. (Not that she would be that interested in that info anyway,haha) My current run is at three games. (yeah yeah I now, two loses, why so negativ) We will win! Good Night! Go Wolves!
Probably
has something to do with stubhub shutting down 2 hours before game time.
Oh my bad
I didn’t know they shut down that early, I usually have to buy my tickets around 4 hours prior sinc e I live outside of the metro area.
Gotcha
I was looking all day, but prices were insane. $100 for the lower bowl.
just ridiculous
I wanted to go to this game but not for 100 bucks
those season tickets I didn’t buy last year are looking mighty good right now…
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 11, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
At Kieran's last night
they had a raffle for tickets to tonight’s game. I missed it by one number. (Needed a 0, had a 4 in its place). I’d have been pass-out-on-the-floor-and-lose-control-of-basic-bodily-functions happy if I’d won.
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
How is that place?
Always a walk by, never go in situation.
"Sometimes the ball get in, sometimes not, but you have to took the shots." -Unicorn.
by The Scandalnavian on Feb 11, 2012 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
I like their beer selection
(it’s not great, but there are enough interesting offerings) and their menu is solid. My only problem with it is that it’s FREAKING PACKED every time I’m there. I’ve managed to get a barstool the last two times, but I sat there last night thinking that if anyone were looking for me they likely wouldn’t see me (even though I had to be the only guy in there with “PEKOVIC” across his shoulders) because I had people right behind me the whole time trying to order over the top of me.
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
straight from NBA TV:
“John Wall is at least SEVEN times better than Rubio on defense”
haha “seven” times huh?
Who said that?
Whoever he is, he’s a moron.
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 11, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
ron thompson
he’s been on the last few days. i don’t remember seeing him much before that though.
I just heard that....
Who was that that said it? I haven’t seen him on there before. It wasn’t Sam Mitchell, it was the guy next to him.
Usually, yes.
And in Rubio’s case, definitely. That was maybe the most asinine comment I’ve ever heard by a commentator.
He absolutely said that John Wall is 7x a better defender than Rubio.
an historically dumb comment.
Right there with what KennyS. said when asked if he thought Griffin would be good. Which was something along the lines of “well he’ll either be like Randy White (as in terrible)”, then “or he’ll be like” and he chose some middling type like Dwight Gooden, and finished with “or he’ll be another Karl Malone”. In other words, by pretty much covering all the bases, he didn’t say anything.
I didn't know much Kobe really turned into Teen Wolf again...
He has over 100 more shots than Durant who is in 2nd place. It’s off topic but I’m browsing NBA stats.
Kobe has been in chuck mode all year long
Best player in the NBA my ass
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 11, 2012 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
howdy doody fellas
hoping for a huge game from the wolves today. let’s get back to .500.
"We're just gonna put kevin in the naughty corner and set this caged lion free"
- Rick Adelman
by Bob Mcflallergy on Feb 11, 2012 6:15 PM CST reply actions
First off...
“Find X” was hilarious! Secondly, this is one of the biggest games of the season. Having lost two straight, the Wolves NEED to get back on track. Really looking forward to the Rubio/Lin match-up. Third, I have much to say about the Whitlock thing, but will for the time being, refrain. I will point out the obvious and say that Twitter is an extremely dangerous media for people who have others interested in their lives or opinions, especially if they indulge in a “seemed like a good idea at the time” mindset.
Here's a pretty good blog post about Lin
by Danny Chau at Hardwood Paroxysm.
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
Dear God,
It’s me, zero. How’s it going?
Please help Ricky Rubio hand Jeremy Lin’s ass to him tonight. He needs to land some jumpers, and a few sweet layups. Lots of steals. Also, don’t let squirrels plunder all my heirloom tomatoes next summer.
Thanks
Z
by zero_on_up on Feb 11, 2012 6:53 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
DWilliams
is anything but graceful on the drive if there is any opposition. Looks like a power forward.
As a huge Space Jam fan, this
Is Wesley the Bill Murray of this scenario?
Made me laugh out loud.
Cheers Tim.
"If you’ve got some balls, you can do some stuff"
I cried laughing
at this post. You wrong for that Harvard transcript. And the “LeBron to NY” conspiracy was priceless!
by Los Lobos Del Bosque on Feb 12, 2012 11:45 PM CST reply actions
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