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Knicks/wolves report card mayn


Mayn dis game made me so angry i cat even describe it mayn i had ta juss go ta sleep before i short circuited mayn less git right to it afta de jump

Star-divide

KLove: A

Mayn KLove went HAM in dat bitch and wuz really our main source uv offense. Took a few too many long 2s but ayn he drained dem. Also had de kind uc rebounding game we saw routinely lass year. De lost weight definitely hurt his O boards dis year but helped in so many otha ways. Dis guy iz amazing mayn.

Pek: A

Pek iz officially DAT dude rite now mayn. He haz arrived. My man wuz crushin suckaz dis game mayn, he de anti darko around de rim. Chandler looked weak trynna guard him. Dis guy got ox strength mayn. When i first saw him dis year de firstgame he wuz back i wuz like mayn he looks like he dont even know how ta play and now he iz straight ballin mayn mafuckaz trynna fine him fo bein so thowed and when he went at chandler i wuz like word mayn give dat fool de business shoutouts ta pek.

Wes "Flynn Lives" Johnson: F for fuck you wes johnson you trrrrible.

Ok. Iss finally time ta ask de question: Iz Wes johnson worse dis year den Jonny wuz last year? Nowun will ever be able to convince me deze arent de two worst players to eva set foot on an nba court. Diz is shocking and disturbing levels uv terrible play. Wes johnson you are literally de worst player in de league. David kahn i kno u readin dis. Trade dis dudes bum azz fo a stick uv juicy fruit mayn. I kno u rememba when i callezd u last spring an told u exactly wuz i thought uv jonny flynn. Well, iss bout ta go down de same way wit Wes. Im confident i could be blackout thowed an old dis guy scoreless. Wes mayn it hurts ta wtach u play. I actually almost broke mah 42 inch plasma watchin yo bitchass trynna dribble. Fuck you wes johnson.

Ricky rubio: B

My favorite player maybe ever mayn, ricky played well dis game, and i wuz h yoed az fuck when he did dat pass a pek between chandlers legs. Not much else ta say other than dis guy iz amazing and i wouldnt trade him fo anywun in de league.

Luke ridnour: C-

You wuz pretty awful dis game luke, when yo shot ot fallin u kinda suck. Less move on

B Easy: C-

Alot uv tough shots, some wne tin, most didnt. Still not feelin beas is year, my man needs ta get back on de kill i thank.

JJ Barea: B

Dis lil mafucka lovvvves ta jack up shot mayn but he cool i still fucks wit him.

D wWill: B

Dude needs ta stop ynna euro step in de worst way. Havent seen it work once. Stick ta grabbin boards and throwin down dE rock mayn.

Muskies Uniforms: D

Dont like deze fckin uniforms mayn. We play like shit in dem and dey kinda juss oring and muskies are whack any ways. I remain unconvinceD dat we shouldnt juss wear de black unis every fuckin game.

Refs: F

Whut de fuck wuz dat micky mouse shit out der??? Whut a bunch uv fuckin idiots mayn dat wuzzint no foul at de end uv de game. Juss terrible ref all around, callin shti dat neva happened makin up rules and juss fuckin up de integrity uv de game.

Linsanity: B-

At first i wuz like mayn hol up did dis dude shake hands wit Tebow or smething?? But as de game went on i wuz like mayn dis dude aint dat thowed, he nice but cmon refs handed him dis game on a silver platter.

My bag uv kush: A+

Playa uv de game mayn, i wuz stupid thowed !!

dat bout duz it yall. Iss been a crazy week fo me mayn i,a do anotha wun uv deze thangs soon and soend mo time on it but mayn dis game wuz frustrating mayn fuck doze refs mayn and mos uv all get wes johnson far far far away from dis team stay thowed yall smoke sumn

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by Jose Cordoba on Feb 12, 2012 12:20 PM CST reply actions  

me too (Wes comments)

Nice job Mayn – The only grade I would change is the Muskie uniforms – the whole concept of the Muskie gimmick is stupid and deserves an F-. They played one meaningless season here 45 years ago. No one here remembers or cares anything about the damn Muskies! It pissed me off in the Indiana game when the PA announcer kept referring to the TWolves as the Muskies. Why do we have to be subjected to six games of that shit?! /endrant

by cha on Feb 12, 2012 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Why don't they just rock the original

89 unis? And talk about Eddie Murphy or something for a gimmick? Muskies are stupid.

by Doug West Domination!!! on Feb 12, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree 100%

Throwbacks should actually be related in some meaningful way to the current team. Might as well wear Kentucky Colonels unis.

"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra

by Wile E Coyote on Feb 12, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

To be fair, they gave fans a chance to vote on the throwbacks for this season

and the Muskies is what the fans chose.

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by TimAllen on Feb 12, 2012 8:47 PM CST up reply actions  

What were the choices???

Waiting for Relevancy...

by Bombnuke on Feb 13, 2012 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Took a second to find this:
Fans voted at the State Fair between the Muskies and the Minnesota Pipers, both former American Basketball Association teams who each played a season at the Met Center in the 1960s.

The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.

by feral on Feb 13, 2012 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

(Wow.)

I posted that, scrolled down… And then saw the little “New Post By” thing pop up with my own name on it. Scrolled back up to see no body to my post, which appeared twice.

It notified me of a new post by myself, and (momentarily) erased it.

The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.

by feral on Feb 13, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey

The Kentucky Colonels were winners! It would have been and improvement. I saw some of their last games. But yeah, I would have rather seen them with uniforms that represent cunning, ferocious mammals than big, ugly fish. I guess they wanted to honor the ABA.

by inyofaz on Feb 13, 2012 2:32 AM CST up reply actions  

On Wes

checking stats at www.82games.com I saw that Wes, Darko, and Beasley have the worst plus/minus numbers on the team.

In other news, the most ethnic group in the Netherlands? The Dutch

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by Son of Gerald Green on Feb 12, 2012 8:56 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, the whole Wes Johnson paragraph is such a perfect summary.

How does it make sense to put him out there when it means that we are effectively playing 4 against 5 on offense? His D is nowhere near enough to make up for that.

by MNHawkeye on Feb 12, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

That could be the best line I've seen in my 4 years on CH!

Mayn is de MAyN

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— Hunter S. Thompson

by SoDakHmr on Feb 12, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

MAYN.. thanks for doing this bro.. nicely done and pretty hilarious..

I’m looking forward to your next one. I hope you have a better week…

by bsg007 on Feb 12, 2012 12:23 PM CST reply actions  

Only 27 recs?

There is no justice in this world. A million recs would not be enough!

Yo ho ho and a FirstRow stream!

by TMiss on Feb 13, 2012 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

updated report card list. let me know if you want to step up and do one..

2/13 Orlando – already taken by Malastare
2/15 Charlotte – already taken by ol’ weird harold
2/17 Houston – already taken by Michael Boosalis II
2/19 Philadelphia – already taken by Coffee Janitor
2/20 Denver – already taken by Anthony Real Thing
2/22 Utah – already taken by Dogpile
2-23-2/27 – MIDTERM REPORT CARD TO BE WRITTEN BY MALASTARE
2/28 LA Clippers – already taken by Timberwolf in LA
2/29 LA Lakers
3/1 Phoenix – already taken by T-Fear
3/3 Portland
3/5 LA Clippers
3/7 Portland
3/9 LA Lakers – already taken by Jones The Cat
3/10 New Orleans
3/12 Phoenix
3/15 Utah
3/16 LA Lakers
3/18 Sacramento

by bsg007 on Feb 12, 2012 12:24 PM CST reply actions  

yeah i'd love to do portland on 3/3 if that's cool???

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- Rick Adelman

by Bob Mcflallergy on Feb 12, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

portland is taken by CJ

you can pick the other blazers game on 3/7?

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by GWST11 on Feb 12, 2012 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

ah sweet

how bout clippers on the 5th?

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- Rick Adelman

by Bob Mcflallergy on Feb 12, 2012 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry yall, I ain't going able to swing that Houston Game

2/17 should be opened up 007.
Gunna be on the move that night.

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by Michael C. Boosalis II on Feb 13, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Mayn, I felt like I was at the game after reading your report card

I also felt like I had gone back to my mostly wasted youth and was cheifing some spliff. Loved the card! It brings a smile to my face thinking about the conversation with you and David Freaking Kahn!
It really disturbs me that the Pups at full strength couldn’t beat the bleeping Knicks without Amare and Melo at the Target Center, I’m glad I wasn’t able to watch such an embarrassing thing! I’ll make the assumption that Shumpert and Fields went off like fireworks on us and Luke and JJ looked totally lost on D. I’ll also assume that BrickMamba and Reas played barely adequate on D and marginally better on O.
Thanks Mayn for making a lousy game sound better than I’m sure it was!

Ricky is lobbing at an Ooptimal level!

by Dogpile on Feb 12, 2012 12:44 PM CST reply actions  

I’m very surprised my marriage survived my reaction (the swearing, the whining, the tears- it was ugly).

Great line.

by Ineffable on Feb 12, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds like the last time I had...

(Dammit, inner monologue, INNER MONOLOGUE!!!!) ;)

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— Hunter S. Thompson

by SoDakHmr on Feb 12, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I hated the refs too.

Seriously, how many times could rubio get bodyslammed??? And love was hit on his final attempt too. Unbelievable. Just looking at the espn recap you can see rubio bashed like 5 times.

by bustaone on Feb 12, 2012 1:10 PM CST reply actions  

Refs were horrible on both sides

They were either high, drunk, or both last night. Just incompetent.

If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm

by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 12, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

My theory

is that David Stern saw how much the Wolves were improving and that they were set to break some records for most improvement from season to season so he had a “meeting” with the refs and told them to put the brakes on this whole deal with a bunch of shady calls.
David Stern hates the Wolves.

by wolver on Feb 12, 2012 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's not forget the '12 draft pick...

We can’t be allowed to devalue that pick with a winning record – Stern needs a buyer for the Hornets and they’ve already fired up the lottery “shenanigans” machine (see – Knicks/Ewing, Bulls/Rose, Wizards/Wall, Our beloved Puppies/Never)! ;-)

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by SoDakHmr on Feb 12, 2012 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

NBA conspiracy stuff is BS

I used to believe in that shit until I realized that Stern is employed by the owners, and that if there was any funny shit going on that they could just fire him.

If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm

by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 12, 2012 7:26 PM CST up reply actions  

It's probably not just him.

I’m sure the Lakers and the Rockets weren’t too happy with him when he nixed the Paul/Gasol/Scola/Martin/Odom fiasco. I’m sure they would have loved to fire him at that point. Remember, that’s how NO got the pick from the Clippers. NBA politics and machinations probably rivals anything that the great Catalan family, the Borgias could ever devise.

by inyofaz on Feb 13, 2012 2:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I used to believe in that shit until I realized that Stern is employed by the owners, and that if there was any funny shit going on that they could just fire him.

Hey, whatever works for you.

by nextmove on Feb 13, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

That is crazy

If you think it’s fixed why watch the league?

by MoreJuice on Feb 13, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Sorry

What is is that you say is crazy?

by nextmove on Feb 13, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

The idea of Stern..

Rigging the lottery to help NO. It’s fun to joke about but no way there is any truth to it.

by MoreJuice on Feb 13, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Haha

By the way, I responded to your last post from the game preview. I only just saw it today and I wanted to admit a mistake I made. Check it out if you want, if not no biggie. Good debate.

by MoreJuice on Feb 13, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely agree.

The sick Cleveland/Gilbert kid this year, after the LeBron debacle… I thought the league was definitely throwing in a “make up call” to Cavs fans.. and the sick kid made the story that much jucier.. I was wondering the same thing about the calls this year. All of our games have been reffed terribly. Maybe they ARE trying to protect the value of that draft pick. I think that botched Lakers trade was an unintended look behind the curtain.

Then again maybe they were just trying to push the “Lin-Sanity” streak to boost those big numbers they’re getting now for the weak ass Knicks. Who knows..

by Koberdoit on Feb 13, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

You know the Wolves could have been a dynasty had they had decent drafts over the past few years, right?

We wouldn’t be having this discussion then.

Conspiracy theories are stupid.

If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm

by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 13, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Your discussion is:

“the owners employ stern, therefore stern is even handed and fair and would never do anything shady” That is far from definitive by any measure.

by bustaone on Feb 13, 2012 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope...

Its just that if Stern really were a part of all of these happenings in the NBA, the owners wouldn’t be that big of morons to let him keep his job

If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm

by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 13, 2012 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Correct-I was wrong.

Though, I don’t know I would bet on the owner’s collective smarts :-)

by bustaone on Feb 13, 2012 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you have any real rebuttal?

Stern is employed by the owners. That is a fact.

If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm

by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 13, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Where conspiracy theories come up short...

Is they overlook the fact that most people are totally incapable of keeping their mouths shut.

If there were all these conspiracies, a ton of people would know about it, and someone would be talking.

by Rodman99 on Feb 13, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh

You mean like Donaghy?

by Boss10 on Feb 13, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Boss swoops in like a boss

with some reality.

I do not know that there IS naughty stuff going on behind the scenes in the NBA, but I do not know that there is not.

And I, being both a wolves fan and a numbers person, have plenty of past performance to look back at.

by bustaone on Feb 13, 2012 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

So we're going off the argument

That you can’t disprove a negative, that a single dirty NBA ref whose accusatory claims have been refuted is representative of a greater problem, and that bad luck coincidences don’t seem so coincidental.

Somebody please let me know when a solid case based off of actual evidence has been made, otherwise this this just a bunch of malarkey.

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by nja700 on Feb 13, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't disagree.

It’s in the grey area though that you can find some fun things to think/talk about. Nobody here is slitting wrists or anything.

by bustaone on Feb 13, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

so that was too hard.

but the odds of us never once getting the first pick was only 11%

by bustaone on Feb 13, 2012 6:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Not until now! *sob*

I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.

by Cynical Jason on Feb 14, 2012 12:00 AM CST up reply actions  

1 bad ref = all bad refs?

If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm

by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 13, 2012 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

no, but.

1 bad ref indicates the possibility of it happening.

by bustaone on Feb 13, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Not all bad refs...

…but certainly something musty in the state of the NBA

by Boss10 on Feb 13, 2012 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think they ever have or ever will rig the draft

But I do think something strange happened during that 03 Kings-Lakers WCF. Also on a lesser scale when the Lakers played the Wolves.

by MoreJuice on Feb 13, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

No, it is Stern

He rigged so many lotteries that they had to bring in an outside accounting firm to run it to put an end to the rumors (and given the way accounting firms whore themselves out, I still think the lottery is rigged).

Yo ho ho and a FirstRow stream!

by TMiss on Feb 13, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

If there wasn't something to hide-

-there would be a video stream of the lotto.

24/7 sports news coverage and we don’t see it? Nothing should be as damning as that.

by bustaone on Feb 13, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

And Stern somehow got the Wolves to commit 22 turnovers???

And allow an assload of uncontested layups?

Damn, he’s good.

by Rodman99 on Feb 13, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

As somebody stated below,

a significant number of those turnovers came on non-calls in the 3rd quarter (0 defensive fouls called on NY) or the 4th (a handful of defensive calls)? The Knicks were allowed to get away with play that was beyond physical on many, many possessions.

by nextmove on Feb 13, 2012 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

The Wolves had 27 turnovers Friday night

Was Stern in on that too?

The refs sucks against the Knicks. But it’s not like the Knicks didn’t get their share of bad calls. This is not why we lost the game. We lost the game because our D sucked, we turned the ball over, and missed open shots. And we didn’t execute down the stretch. The Knicks gave us every chance to win, and we didn’t take it.

by Rodman99 on Feb 13, 2012 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Did I say anything about the Dallas game?

The idea that the blatant 2nd half non-calls had no bearing on the turnover total (or the outcome of a one-possession game) is a pretty silly.

Maybe you are happy to pay no attention to the main behind the curtain. No skin off my nose.

by nextmove on Feb 13, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

On nights when we turn over the ball a LOT

it seems like the other team gets away with murder on reaching in. Seriously, does any CHer think that you can just take the ball away from Pek or Love without fouling them? It happens, I’m sure, but not as often as it’s been happening. We’re getting fouled hard and we’re failing to foul back.

Yo ho ho and a FirstRow stream!

by TMiss on Feb 13, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

The cat is out of the bag – the way to beat the wolves is to just beat them up. It works and the wolves need to adjust.

by bustaone on Feb 13, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

The refs were horrible on both sides

This one was not decided by the refs.

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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 13, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I still don't get that tech call.

We weren’t supposed to get possession after that right? That makes no sense to me..

by Doctor_Teh on Feb 12, 2012 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

It was a botched call pure and simple.

NY should have either had possession or 2 additional free throws if they were going to give continuation. My call would have been possession. That they gave us the ball after giving NY 1 free throw was like giving a team two points for the safety in American Football and then denying them possession on the following kick-off. Everyone familiar with the rules knew it was wrong at the time. The fact that not one of the refs over-ruled this speaks to a moment of incompetence. It happens, but it shouldn’t

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by Airete on Feb 13, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

This report card...

Is the greatest thing that’s ever happened in the history of the world…

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by mutleyil on Feb 12, 2012 1:50 PM CST reply actions  

Sublime card MAYN

This, Wesley has morphed into Johny F’in Flynn , I hated each pick equally(as most CH’ers did/do). Kahn and his freaky athletic, captivating smile shyte aside, couldn’t have blundered any worse had he traded those picks for a six pack of “juicy” MAYN, that is fact, and a damn hoot! As for the FU’s to “Flynn lives” Johnson, my espresso bathed my screen but my sentiments exactly! Thanx, rec’d… Wanders of with their shyte eatin’ grin…

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by Patrick Daniels on Feb 12, 2012 1:56 PM CST reply actions  

Completely agree on the Muskies unis, MAYN

But where do you stand on the tangential issue of “More’ fro from Crunch” issue?

I too am a lone wolfpack.

by OR-7 on Feb 12, 2012 2:15 PM CST reply actions  

Wes "Flynn Lives" Johnson. Absolutely wonderful!
Iz Wes johnson worse dis year den Jonny wuz last year?

As far as we have come in one year so far, the fact that we even have to ASK this question just shows you how far we still have to go.

Have we ever drafted a player from Syracuse that DIDN’T turn out to be one of those most gawd-awful players on the squad?

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by Skat the Rat on Feb 12, 2012 2:16 PM CST reply actions  

great write-up. rec'd

i still think barea’s grade is too high. i think i’m probably one of the biggest anti-barea voices on this board. i think his value was inflated by playing on a championship team (both league wide and more importantly in his own head). he shoots too much and poorly at that, he’s out of control, he turns the ball over, and he generally makes poor decisions.

yes, he brings a spark of energy to the team, but so did corey brewer. it’s just not working out.

/opinion

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by davechisholm on Feb 12, 2012 2:22 PM CST reply actions  

As a Brewer fan

We call this The Jeff Suppan Deal.

Uggh.

I too am a lone wolfpack.

by OR-7 on Feb 12, 2012 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

you mean the milwaukee brewers, right?

not corey brewer? sorry, i mentioned corey brewer, so i got confused!

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by davechisholm on Feb 12, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

On Berea-

I’m trying hard not to agree with what davechisholm just wrote but so far it is not going very well.

It’s the out of control part I am struggling most with. I also find it curious that he does not receive the same heat Beasley gets for being a ball stopper when it seems he is just as guilty.

I know we need guys who can get to the rim on their own so I am holding out hope he will settle down some and become a scorer off the bench for us. I also think his role may make more sense if and when we ever trade Ridnour.

by SlowBreak on Feb 12, 2012 2:28 PM CST reply actions  

but that's just it

what about barea’s game (aside from the finals last year) leads people to think he’s capable of being a better off-the-bench scorer than ridnour? i’m not a huge fan of him either, but he has a much better shot and generally seems like he would be a stronger off-the-bench guy than barea.

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by davechisholm on Feb 12, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Barea moves his feet much better than ridnour

barea keeps his guy in front of him, ridnour lets them get by.

Barea can create his own shot, Ridnour cannot. By this I mean that the defensive rotation does not have to be already broken down for Barea to take the ball to the hoop. Ridnour needs some sort of lane to get by.

But I wouldnt mind seeing Luke come off the bench as well. He would be an ideal bench player because Adelman can mix and match when he can be effective against certain players. Ridnour is never going to have an upper hand on D when he starts.

The only problem with Barea is that he needs to slow down and alter his change of play so he distributes more and is more patient. Luke Ridnour’s problem lies in the fact that he simply is unable to move his feet to stay in front of any defender. He physically cant guard 1s or 2s.

by andrew33 on Feb 12, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

"creating his own shot"

and then missing the holy shit out of it when he puts it up.

either way, it’s potatoes/po TAH toes with these two. neither one is what we need in the starting lineup. i wouldn’t be sad if either one was traded away as part of a deal to get a decent wing.

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by davechisholm on Feb 12, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I mean

if you examine the game, you can see Barea has the skills to consistently make those shots. You probably played basketball before, and you then know there are some skills an individual always has, and Barea’s misses look like he is rushing his shots and is not in rhythm. It could be even one thing he is doing wrong like the power in his legs or him not bringing up the ball strong.

by andrew33 on Feb 12, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

see, now we're definitely getting into sketchy territory, though

“having the skills necessary to consistently make those shots” is not the same as actually making those shots. LOTS of players in the NBA have the skills to consistently make shots, but not all of them do. just because barea can run like a chicken with no head towards the basket and chuck a basketball at it doesn’t tell me that he’s contributing to the wolves winning games.

for that matter, luke has shown that he also has the tools necessary to consistently make the shots he takes…he just hasn’t been making them lately!

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by davechisholm on Feb 12, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

except even if Luke makes 65% of all his shots, which is impossible in a season, he would be giving up on the D every single time except for a handful of plays.

Yeah anyone can make shots too, Barea hit 3/6 from 3 the other day. Basketball, especially playoff basketball is more about defense rather than offense because the game slows down.

Luke has never won anything, Barea has won a championship, and he has shown that he can contribute something in a championship run.

Luke cant defend his guy 90% or even higher every single game. If you dont believe me just count every time next time you watch a twolves game. Luke is terrible as a starter, and Barea is a much better guy off the bench. Just because he has shown some inconsistencies in a handful of games coming off his injuries doesnt mean hes goign to be like this the entire year. I rather bank on Barea’s consistency as a scorer over his career than these few games.

As i said before all Barea has to do is slow down and pick his spots. Luke just cant guard at all. Even if Luke hits most of his shots he is going to hurt the team. There is no upside with luke because he gets beat the majority of the time on D.

by andrew33 on Feb 12, 2012 6:00 PM CST up reply actions  

barea won a championship

with a bunch of other guys on his team. come on.

he’s a bit better on man-to-man defense than luke, but neither of them are great defenders and barea is smaller than undersized. either one makes a serviceable backup PG but i still think barea is INSANELY overvalued and looks like a terribly out-of-control dude out there who shoots almost every time he touches the ball.

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by davechisholm on Feb 12, 2012 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Thats true

but he definitely played a huge role especially against the Lakers. Yeah I dont think Barea is that much better than Luke on D, but I think he can guard PG and some SG because he moves his feet much better and stays in front of guys.

The main reason I dont like Luke starting is because he lets the PG penetrate at will, which fofces our Bigs to help. If a PG consistently can penetrate the D, the defense is going to have a tough time all night.

by andrew33 on Feb 12, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Would you agree to this?

Luke is the same problem to the wolves as fisher is to the Lakers.

Except Luke is going to make more baskets, but fisher is more clutch and is a better decision maker and dribbler.

And Im not saying Luke should be cut, I just think he should come in when matchups are more favorable like when he guards jump shooters coming off the bench.

by andrew33 on Feb 12, 2012 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

totally agree on Barea...

I’m weary of watching him drive into the trees and end up on his ass with the photographers.

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by Benthefolksinger on Feb 13, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

for me

it’s more that Berea and Ridnour on the same team doesn’t really make sense- they are different players but basically fill similar roles. Especially on a team with a clear starting point guard who can play big minutes. JJ drives better and defends better, Ridnour shoots better off the bounce. Take your pick.

by SlowBreak on Feb 12, 2012 2:47 PM CST reply actions  

either of them in a lineup with ricky rubio is really problematic for me

too many cooks in the kitchen.

it’s just a case of too many players for one position. can’t play ’em all at the same time.

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by davechisholm on Feb 12, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

We've got three cooks in the kitchen, and no waiters at all to serve points.

Wings. Wings, wings, wings.

The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.

by feral on Feb 13, 2012 7:39 AM CST up reply actions  

mmmmmmm wings

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by davechisholm on Feb 13, 2012 7:45 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

My biggest grip about Wes

continues to be passing up open shots. Someone needs to give the boy a concentrated shot of testosterone.

Where there is a D-Williams, there is a way

by Flagrant on Feb 12, 2012 3:08 PM CST reply actions  

Also

when Wes passes up open J’s, inevitably there is a 3-sec violation on Love or Pek because they are gunning for the rebound.

Where there is a D-Williams, there is a way

by Flagrant on Feb 12, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

...so

(1) The Wolves big gets called for 3-seconds, anticipating a rebound;

(2) The defense packs the paint, double-teams other Wolves without the threat of Wes tossing up a J.

Where there is a D-Williams, there is a way

by Flagrant on Feb 12, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Why Guard Johnson

That is like guarding rubio. What is sad is rubio’s shooting percentage is better.

by fantwolves on Feb 13, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Wear the cardigan warm-ups to actually play.

Now that’s a way to take the most dorky thing ever and turn it into something kinda cool. It would be Rick Adelman, Kevin Love, Ricky Rubio…. and who’s the third son? Pekovic is probably Uncle Charlie.

The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.

by feral on Feb 13, 2012 7:59 AM CST up reply actions  

If only they sold those cardigans somewhere...

The jerseys are okay but they need to go if we’re gonna keep losing in them… however I want a Muskies cardigan… SWAG! haha

by Koberdoit on Feb 13, 2012 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

its 6 games.

3 more to go in march and they are all games that will sell out.

The muskies are terrible 0-3. I hope its the Jerseys, so that tonight they do better as the timberwolves.

by fantwolves on Feb 13, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

We're trying to make the playoffs and we're starting Wes Johnson?

And playing Ridnour at SF to end games so he can not cover their 6’7" 3 point shooter.
What the hell is going on out there? This team is broken.
Thanks for showing up last night though Twins fans – too bad none of you know how to boo.

by fanslaststand on Feb 12, 2012 4:37 PM CST reply actions  

i think adelman has dementia

starting luke and rubio together isnt going to succeed in beating most teams

by monro on Feb 12, 2012 4:56 PM CST reply actions  

We crazies are people, too.

You can't...dust...for vomit.

by twinstalker on Feb 12, 2012 11:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice write up Mayn.

I’m so behind on games right now, caught up with the Grizz game this afternoon, that was horrible. Got two losses to watch now, lets hope Tyrannosaurus Pek can shut down Howard tomorrow night.

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by JonesTheCat on Feb 12, 2012 5:04 PM CST reply actions  

Wow.

I’d like to tell you it’s not too late to turn back, but you’ve probably made up your mind.

by nextmove on Feb 13, 2012 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Can we raid the local gym for some out of shape Minnesotans than can just stand around and knock down shots?

with rubio, turns out we didnt need a bunch of uber-athletes that can catch 90 foot lobs, just some sort of human beings who can launch a round rubber projectile into a metal hole at a rate that is greater than 12% to win

by Dr_Defecate on Feb 12, 2012 5:37 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

hell yeah!

We need that classic white guy that can only shoot 3’s, MN gotta be full of these Steve Kerr-Fred Hoiberg-Kyle Korver-Shane Heal style players!!

by Koberdoit on Feb 13, 2012 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

That was epic.

Whats Louie Mayn? Whats up with you lately?

we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.

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by ClipperBEAST on Feb 12, 2012 5:43 PM CST reply actions  

Mayn, you still the man

How many TVs have been destroyed this year due to Wes Johnson???

by DR_JPK on Feb 12, 2012 5:51 PM CST reply actions  

Luke is the exact same problem

as fisher is on the Lakers. Luke will make more shots than fisher but fisher is more clutch. These two are detrimental to the defense. Open your eyes Adelman, the last few games the twolves lost were definitely winnable with better coaching decisions. Im not saying twolves should cut Luke, but he should be put in when he has a more favorable matchup than the starters he is facing now.

Not to mention wes is just horrible and should be sent to the D league to improve for a while.

by andrew33 on Feb 12, 2012 6:04 PM CST reply actions  

Oh

not to mention fisher is a much better decision maker than Luke

by andrew33 on Feb 12, 2012 6:05 PM CST up reply actions  

the last few games the twolves lost were definitely winnable with better coaching decisions.

by rickyrules on Feb 12, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm almost at the point where I think we just go big and see where it takes us.

Starting line of Rubio/Beas/DWill/Love/Pek. It’s not like this roster has better options at the 2.

by foertsch on Feb 13, 2012 7:14 AM CST up reply actions  

David Kahn on MPR:

Minnesota Sports Roundup, 2/6/2012 (link):

Q. And in the few seconds we have left, uh, Mr. Kahn – Who are you looking for right now, a shooting guard? Some other player perhaps that can help the Wolves?

DK: Not really looking for anything right now, in that respect. But there’s only a small handful of players in the league that are obtainable…. Sure, we’d love to have LeBron. But there’s only a small numbers of players in the league, and you can’t talk about it because it’s tampering. What’s important to me is that we don’t send a signal to our players that we’re still looking to make wholesale changes. We’re not. I think that obviously we’ll…. We need to resolve some inherent issues on the roster; those are probably best resolved in the offseason moreso than before the trade deadline. And I’m eager to see the team, now that it’s mostly at full strength, how it plays the next three, four weeks as we let it breathe.

The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.

by feral on Feb 13, 2012 7:54 AM CST up reply actions  

outraged post

anger at kahn, impatience

If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm

by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 13, 2012 8:22 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

We shouldn't expect much before the trade deadline, is the main takeaway.

The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.

by feral on Feb 13, 2012 8:25 AM CST up reply actions  

That's not my main takeaway

David Kahn has no business working in an NBA front office is my main takeaway.

“I’m eager to see the team, now that it’s mostly at full strength, how it plays the next three, four weeks as we let it breathe.”

It isn’t breathing David. It sucks, and it blows, but it ain’t breathing.

by rickyp on Feb 13, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Hm

I don’t think Kahn is doing anything wrong imo. I think the team is looking bad because certain players are getting too many minutes when they should be getting 10 minutes a game off the bench.

by andrew33 on Feb 13, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

It is on Kahn

that there aren’t any players on the team who should absolutely be getting more minutes than they are currently playing.

by dropstep on Feb 13, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

No

thats on the coach who is starting Luke and Wes, and not getting other players more minutes.

by andrew33 on Feb 13, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

'other players'?

We don’t have an NBA starting wing anywhere on our roster. I’m sure Adelman would love to start Other Player just as soon as he shows up…which according to the Kahn quote, is somewhere between ‘not yet’ and ‘never’.

by rickyp on Feb 13, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't think you understood my point

that there are no players who should be getting more minutes. More minutes than Wes? Sure, but not more minutes than they are getting now.

by dropstep on Feb 13, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

But thats the point

would you rather play Wes and Luke as we have doing all year for most of the game, or would you want to see other guys like Webster and Williams give it a shot.

I think a lot of players are playing so bad because they are not getting the minutes they are used to. I like Williams and I think he will be like Evan Turner/Derek Favors, who have improved drastically over this summer after looking relatively lost in their first seasons.

by andrew33 on Feb 13, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

So Williams is going to play the 2?

How else would his minutes replace Wes’s and Ridnour’s?

And Webster is coming off of another back surgery. Are you ready to attest to how many minutes he is ready for? Just curious.

by nextmove on Feb 13, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

And I think one of Luke's best assets

is that he can come in a game and start knocking down shots. I really like Luke as a bench player who comes in when he wouldn’t be overwhelmed on the defensive end because of the 2’s agility or his style of play.

by andrew33 on Feb 13, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

No...

Wes gets so much flak around here but it’s not like we have a bunch of people who will replace him and perform 10x better.

If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm

by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 13, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice

so you support Wes. Are you even watching twolves? I dont think you are. Anyone would be better than Wes.

by andrew33 on Feb 13, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Have you seen how much he posts on here? :)

If he’s not watching the Wolves, he is choosing an awfully strange way to spend his time.

(No offense, CoJa….compelled to comment by the always constructive “did you even watch?” insult)

by PDGirl on Feb 13, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Wes has shown enough flashes that I am not going to give up on him like so many on here have

Yes, I am watching the wolves, quite a bit actually

If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm

by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 13, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

obligatory rebuke

pointing to injuries and to wes johnson’s potential. straightforward allegation of CH herd mentality. unwarranted comparisons to successful organizations.

by TheH on Feb 13, 2012 10:30 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Agreed

but it hurts to have to hope Adelman can turn Wes around.

I keep reading about the SGs that are available, but I don’t see any of them as being the piece we need to get to the second round of the playoffs.

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by TMiss on Feb 13, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think Wes was ever hyped on potential

the difference between him and the other wings available in that draft (who had potential) was that he was “NBA ready”

by zebano on Feb 13, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

and that was a lie

but it’s hard to look at the guy and not wonder wtf? He looks like a basketball player, he moves like a basketball player…. If he could just shoot and dribble, he’d be a pretty good facsimile of an NBA player.

Yo ho ho and a FirstRow stream!

by TMiss on Feb 13, 2012 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

updated report card list.. let me know if you want to take a shot and write one

2/13 Orlando – already taken by Malastare
2/15 Charlotte – already taken by ol’ weird harold
2/17 Houston – already taken by Michael Boosalis II
2/19 Philadelphia – already taken by Coffee Janitor
2/20 Denver – already taken by Anthony Real Thing
2/22 Utah – already taken by Dogpile
2-23-2/27 – MIDTERM REPORT CARD TO BE WRITTEN BY MALASTARE
2/28 LA Clippers – already taken by Timberwolf in LA
2/29 LA Lakers – already taken by MAYNHOLUP
3/1 Phoenix – already taken by T-Fear
3/3 Portland – already taken by Cynical Jason
3/5 LA Clippers
3/7 Portland
3/9 LA Lakers – already taken by Jones The Cat
3/10 New Orleans
3/12 Phoenix
3/15 Utah
3/16 LA Lakers
3/18 Sacramento

by bsg007 on Feb 12, 2012 8:44 PM CST reply actions  

newly updated

2/13 Orlando – already taken by Malastare
2/15 Charlotte – already taken by ol’ weird harold
2/17 Houston – already taken by Michael Boosalis II
2/19 Philadelphia – already taken by Coffee Janitor
2/20 Denver – already taken by Anthony Real Thing
2/22 Utah – already taken by Dogpile
2-23-2/27 – MIDTERM REPORT CARD TO BE WRITTEN BY MALASTARE
2/28 LA Clippers – already taken by Timberwolf in LA
2/29 LA Lakers – already taken by MAYNHOLUP
3/1 Phoenix – already taken by T-Fear
3/3 Portland – already taken by Cynical Jason
3/5 LA Clippers – already taken by Bob McFlallergy
3/7 Portland
3/9 LA Lakers – already taken by Jones The Cat
3/10 New Orleans
3/12 Phoenix
3/15 Utah
3/16 LA Lakers
3/18 Sacramento

by bsg007 on Feb 12, 2012 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Like I said up top, I'm not gunna be able to swing the Report Card against Houston on 2/17 ....

That one is up for grabs CHers.

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by Michael C. Boosalis II on Feb 13, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

updated

2/13 Orlando – already taken by Malastare
2/15 Charlotte – already taken by ol’ weird harold
2/17 Houston – OPEN (please sign up for this)
2/19 Philadelphia – already taken by Coffee Janitor
2/20 Denver – already taken by Anthony Real Thing
2/22 Utah – already taken by Dogpile
2-23-2/27 – MIDTERM REPORT CARD TO BE WRITTEN BY MALASTARE
2/28 LA Clippers – already taken by Timberwolf in LA
2/29 LA Lakers – already taken by MAYNHOLUP
3/1 Phoenix – already taken by T-Fear
3/3 Portland – already taken by Cynical Jason
3/5 LA Clippers – already taken by Bob McFlallergy
3/7 Portland – already taken by Matt Leisen
3/9 LA Lakers – already taken by Jones The Cat
3/10 New Orleans
3/12 Phoenix – already taken by last of the Irish wolves
3/15 Utah
3/16 LA Lakers
3/18 Sacramento

by bsg007 on Feb 14, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Wes = Power Play for the other team Everyone sign a petition to remove him from the SL

Okay Adleman. How many more 0fers or 1fers from Wes do you see before you can get him out of the SL. I mean Ellington can you give some offense until Lee comes up. I’m getting really frustrated watching this guy get minutes when ANYONE with a brain can see Wes clearly isn’t cut out for this league. His D is mediocre at best and his offense is the worst I’ve seen in a long time.

by mnsportswopwopwah on Feb 12, 2012 9:00 PM CST reply actions  

Wes is okay...

I don’t know, he’s actually seemed to be doing a little bit better lately

Hopefully he is just a late bloomer.

If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm

by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 12, 2012 9:06 PM CST up reply actions  

by lately

You mean when? His last 3 games he’s put up a whopping 8 points 3 assists, and 4 rebounds. With a season average of 5.6 ppg, .8 assists, and 2 rebounds a game. I don’t by the late bloomer analogy when there are 3 or 4 who could be better on this team. He’s a shooting guard or supposed to be. He’s just terrrrible

by mnsportswopwopwah on Feb 12, 2012 9:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I dunno

I guess I just still have some hope.

Don’t ask me to give a logical argument here cause I don’t have one….But I still think Adelman and the staff see something in him.

If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm

by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 12, 2012 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

He lost me

My last ounce of tolerance with Wes went up with the vomit that reached my mouth, only to have me swallow it and poop it out today in saucy style.

You can't...dust...for vomit.

by twinstalker on Feb 12, 2012 11:17 PM CST up reply actions  

There are random, rare

flashes with wes. It looks like he has the physical skills down, but he really needs to start thinking and getting into rhythm and get some game sense. Twolves shoudl send him down to D leagues as long as he needs imo.

by andrew33 on Feb 12, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions  

OK??

Webster would be a better starter. He didn’t even contribute defensively last game.

by fantwolves on Feb 13, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I think D league would humble him

I don’t think he will ever be a superstar or even really a good role player, but the D league would humble him and maybe put some fight in him to earn the spot instead of it just being handed to him.

by mnsportswopwopwah on Feb 12, 2012 9:23 PM CST reply actions  

I think being humble is the least of Wes' problems

it more just seems to be a confidence thing…

If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm

by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 12, 2012 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

We should

throw a big CH confidence boosting party for Wes. I’m talking balloons, banners, hand-clapping, compliment gushing — the whole nine yards. Sure, it’d be fake and bordering on an intervention, but something’s gotta be able to turn off the “I’m not good enough” switch in his head.

by unidos_corremos on Feb 12, 2012 11:14 PM CST up reply actions  

What if he's just not good enough?

Then the switch is right.

The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.

by feral on Feb 13, 2012 7:56 AM CST up reply actions  

If we're going to intervene, lets just kidnap him

At least until the first quarter is over since that’s when he get the most playing time.

by zebano on Feb 13, 2012 7:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Have the party in a Lifetime Fitness gym

and all the CH ers go and play against him. Let him dominate…(NBADL might be too tough)

by pirahna on Feb 13, 2012 8:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Its more of a listening problem.

Look at Aldeman’s reactions to Wes’s flubs. One that got on camera looked like he said “He doesn’t listen”. Its hard to tell since FSN didn’t let us hear what he said.

by fantwolves on Feb 13, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

If I believed in curses...

I’d believe he got the curse of Johnny Flynn.

by fantwolves on Feb 13, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

MAYN = Id

That Wes Johnson paragraph is what my subconscious really thinks, but I can’t quite bring myself to say it b/c of social norms, lol

by Los Lobos Del Bosque on Feb 13, 2012 12:34 AM CST reply actions  

Awesome.

And yes: F IS for Fuck you, Wes Johnson.

by Krotz the Wall on Feb 13, 2012 8:03 AM CST reply actions  

I agree with most of the grades, except

I disagree with B- for Barea and B- for Linsanity. Both should be ashamed of their turnovers and shouldn’t get higher than C+.

And the refs. Is there something lower than F – ? No defensive fouls called on the knicks in the 3rd quarter. No defensive fouls called on the Knicks during most of the 4th quarter when we were in bonus.

Our turnovers were bad yes, but at least 6 of them were because of bad refing. And if K-love’s suspension is the new standard for flagrant 2 then Jeffries should have been ejected. He did two fouls that were intentional and harmful that sent a twolf flying. Neither were called as a PF. He should have been fouled out at the least, but with their new standards on flagrant he should have been ejected.

by fantwolves on Feb 13, 2012 9:08 AM CST reply actions  

this needs to be repeated on every game thread til the end of the year

and duped on this one.

Wes "Flynn Lives" Johnson: F for fuck you wes johnson you trrrrible.

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by beatsandpeasnyc on Feb 13, 2012 9:16 AM CST reply actions  

Not sure that really applies to Johnsnon.

Johnson is not the turnover king. He just has got Flynn’s shooting ability this season.

Johnson has been horrible this season though. If Aldeman wants us to believe that he isn’t obligated to play anyone he should be benched. If I remember correctly last year most of our home game wins where with brewer starting.

I still think its funny that Flynn didn’t play in the 3 games we’ve played against the Rockets. I guess McHale doesn’t let him be Johnny either.

by fantwolves on Feb 13, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

the dumbest turnovers this year

have been by DWilliams, a few by Beasley, and if you count the illegal screens/lane violations by Pek. For sheer WTF though, it’s Williams by a lot.

by dwb on Feb 13, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I have to follow this?

Damn. That’s like coming on after Jimi Hendrix at an open mic night or replacing Grandmaster Flash on the turntables.

T'Wolves 2012: Where Pek Decimates Jason Thompson

by Malastare on Feb 13, 2012 11:33 AM CST reply actions  

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