The Real Cost of Pau Gasol
by shrink on Feb 16, 2012 6:22 PM CST
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Pau Gasol's salary right now is already one of the most expensive in the league at $18,714,150. However, his deal also comes with a 15% trade kicker, which some (who noticed the kicker) have reported would bring it to about $21.5 mil if he was traded.
Unfortunately for Gasol, as a vet with 10 years experience, the Collective Bargaining Agreement limits max deals can be 35% of the cap, so the max he can make is $20.3 (35% of $58 mil).
Some may point out that to be traded, Gasol would have to waive some of his trade kicker, and so he'd carry a de facto no-trade clause. However, the CBA automatically reduces the kicker to an amount that brings him to the max, and the player has no say in it.
Finally, while next year's salary cap may be fixed at $58 mil again regardless of BRE, players' contracts can surpass the max with normal raises. Gasol's deal will increase in proportion to his original deal, so the bottom lineis, if Gasol is traded, he will make a whopping:
2011-12: $20.30 mil
2012-13: $20.61 mil
2013-14: $20.92 mil
As for my personal opinion, I think trading a Derrick Williams package for Pau Gasol would be a short-sighted deal for the Timberwolves future. The team has some severe needs that need to be addressed, and if a trade hamstrings them financially and also removes Derrick Williams, the Wolves use up two of their best tradable assets without fixing the major problems. In my opinion, trade targets should have some of these characteristics:
1. Go-to scorer, particularly in the 4th quarter
2. Someone who can get their own shot off
3. Strong defender
4. Fits for age
5. Fits financially
I don't think that Pau Gasol really matches any of these characteristics.
Worse, we are complicating our already unbalanced line-up, pushing Pekovic to the bench just when we needed someone to rise up. While this trade may improve the team this year, with its current holes, the Wolves wouldn't be a legitimate contender this year or in the future. Moreover, two years from now when Love has the leverage to force a trade, will he be happy that the team spent its assets to duplicate his position?
Derrick Williams has value as a player, and as a longterm rookie deal. Gasol may be better than Williams, but is he worth more than Derrick + $15 mil we could spend on a swingman?
As a numbers guy, I'd strongly suggest spending our assets elsewhere.
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Your points are difficult to argue with.
still a part of me would like to trade for him. Perhaps the irrational part.
I’ve already decided to be relieved if we don’t trade for Gasol and excited if we do so either way I win.
I certainly wouldn't be unhappy
Maybe not the best way to go, but by no means would it be the worst. Gasol is highly productive and arguably the most skilled big man in the league
I respectfully disagree..
for the very reasons outlined in this post. Our resources need to be directed towards improving the 2 and 3 positions with Pek demonstrating he can adequately play the 5. Trading Williams for Gasol doesn’t solve our problem and removes our most prized trade asset. In addition, it hamstrings the organization financially to the point they will be unable to obtain an adequate 2 or 3 in free agency if there is one to be had. I like Gasol, but not at this cost.
by bsg007 on Feb 16, 2012 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Aside for the monetary cost
I don’t understand why we’d be exploring a trade for Pau when our bigs seem to be really coming together. Pau’s a great player, but we’ve got more glaring areas of need than that.
by Mr.Outside on Feb 16, 2012 6:41 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
While I wouldnt hate it
Another offensive big should not be a top priority. especially when said big is highly paid and 31 years old
Marc on the other hand…
You crazy car, I don't know whether to eat you or kiss you
by John Truckasauras on Feb 16, 2012 6:54 PM CST reply actions
Pau Gasol has played a lot of center in his career, and has been very good at it
I feel like we need to clear this up. Even this year, he’s played 1/3 of LA’s center minutes, and has both a higher PER and holds opposing centers to a lower PER at the 5 as opposed to the 4. For his career as a Laker, the difference between Gasol as a center and Gasol as a power forward is basically zero. There’s no way a Love/Gasol frontcourt wouldn’t work.
And while the price tag is steep, if you’re concerned about just straight talent, you won’t get anyone else that good to come here for less. So really, the only issue with Gasol is age.
That said, I wholeheartedly agree that the wing position is top priority. Pek isn’t necessarily the answer at center, but he’s enough of one that the team doesn’t need to worry about it for the time being
by Oceanary on Feb 16, 2012 7:30 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
Well said, sir.
I agree with all of these sentiments. Rec’d.
PEK IS THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING!
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 16, 2012 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
False who is an idiot who plays for the lakers?
THere are roughly 13 answers to this questions, however none of them are Pek
Pek > "Demarcus Cousins"
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Feb 17, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Dammit . . .
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 17, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I can't agree with the "you won't get anyone else to come here for less"
Less than $20.6 million dollars next year? For perspective, $20.6 million dollars will be the third highest salary in the NBA, only Dirk and Kobe will be paid more.
And also note that Gasol is being traded here, like any team could do with a player. He’s not coming here willingly, and there are only two players in the NBA that have actual no-trade clauses – again, Dirk and Kobe.
The financial problem with adding Gasol isn’t just the loss of room under the cap for next year’s free agency. The problem is that depending on how we handle our payroll, we might not have room under the LUX when we spend half our pre-lux payroll on PF’s that can play a little center. $15 for Love + $20 for Gasol = $35 .. we only have $35 left for the entire rest of the team!
by shrink on Feb 16, 2012 10:08 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
if we're talking about this sort of money,
I would rather throw a huge (close to max) contract at Batum this summer and roll with Rubio/anything we can get for Ridnour, Beas, Webster, Darko, etc./Batum/Love/Pekovic. That’s my take on all of this.
Passing on a star to pay a ton of money to a good role player.
Doesn’t make sense. No Jayson Werths. The Wolves can spend much less to get a guy to give them what they need from a wing spot.
by Ray Williams? on Feb 17, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
"Won't" might have been a little strong of a word
But still, I stand by the argument that it will cost close to this amount for a player of Gasol’s caliber. Look at the money players like Rudy Gay, Chris Bosh, Zach Randolph and Dirk make. Gasol is just as good, if not better than those guys.
And we’d also have to probably sign those guys in free agency, meaning you’re also working against market stereotypes and other teams as well.
You're missing the key here ..
I disagree that it costs $20 mil for Pau Gasol quality player. $20 mil is the third highest salary in the NBA, and I hope you’d agree that Gasol is not close to being the third best player in the NBA in 2012. Moreover, pointing to other players that may be overpaid does not make Gasol’s contract cost a penny less. In fact, I can name a dozen players that are better that cost $5-10 mil less than Pau.
Also, regardless of what you think our chances are in free agency (and I believe our chances have improved with Rubio and Love), you’ll note that Pau Gasol is not coming here through free agency. If the Wolves are willing to trade value like Derrick Williams and absorb a guy making $40 mil over the next two years, other teams will be interested in trade.
You're going to have to overpay to get someone as good as Gasol
That’s the point I’m making. Whether it be in free agency (competing against market and other, more preferable teams) or a trade (not many teams out there willing to part with a player that good) it’s going to cost a LOT to get a player like that. And that holds true for any position. How many wing players out there play ball as well as Pau and are actively on the market for less that $19 million?
I’m not saying Gasol is the best use of our assets or that a trade for him is the preferred choice. Simply that, in a vacuum, $20 mil is not an outrageous sum to pay to get a player of his level to play in this market. It cost Miami $18+ to get Chris Bosh to play there, and that was with an obviously pre-determined player-initiated plan and the promise of Wade and likely LeBron as teammates.
Start talking money and shrink awakens from his slumber.
Like an immortal wizard
by Tollysnipes on Feb 16, 2012 8:11 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Thanks, Shrink.
Nice write-up!
I am in total agreement. Do not do it, Kahn. Get us a decent wing somehow. I am not even saying a star-level wing, but a competent starter type. Although, if you ARE going to trade Williams, swing for the fences.
Given other options I agree with you Shrink
But I’m not sure what other options are actually available to the Wolves. I do tend to think our FA possibilities are limited by location and the poor history/perception of the club. However, perhaps that has changed with the rise of Loce and Rubio. I hope so.
I hope so too
If I was making the sales pitch for the wolves, I’d point out that there is no better team in the NBA where your star player could become a superstar. The wolves have two of the greatest complimentary players in the NBA, young assets and a lot of financial muscle to build a team, but they need someone to come in and be a star scorer. Love will get your guy possessions, and Rubio will get him on ESPN every night, and he gets to have the ball in the fourth quarter with a green light. Add to that, he gets the respect of being “the man” and gets credit for turning around a team that has been on the bottom.
What more could your star want?
by shrink on Feb 16, 2012 10:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That is a good sell.
I hope somebody is buying.
Part one?
Could getting Pau be part of a bigger plan? Remember Houston was ready to give up Martin, Scola, Dragic and a 1st rounder to get Pau in the failed CP3-Lakers trade. Without thinking about the numbers in detail, I gotta say that sounds like a pretty good haul for D Williams.
According to houston fans ...
.. Morey’s plan in Houston was to get Gasol to hope that he could encourage his brother Marc to come join him. MEM is a small market team, and there had to be some discussion about matching a max deal, when they already have big deals on Gay and ZBo. They were hoping that if Marc said he really wanted to join his brother, MEM would let him sign there. (Or at a minimum, they’d be able to sign Nene).
I think Morey believes that superstars are going to continue to congregate in select cities, and if he had to overpay to get a couple strong big men, he might be able to encourage other stars to make HOU a destination. However, when the Marc Gasol and Nene were re-signed by their original teams, the Rockets offer for Gasol was withdrawn, and won’t be replaced.
by shrink on Feb 16, 2012 10:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Almost accurate
The League pulled the plug on the LA/Hou/NO trade,not Houston. When the teams tried to redo it to get League(Stern) approval,the League wanted so much that LA said no before Houston could reject the League’s shopping list.
Gasol signed very early,Nene re-signed w/Denver very late,after the deal had been killed.
It appears there has been continuing talks w/Lakers,but Lakers asking price has been way too high.
I haven’t read other posts on subject,but this looks like a classic ploy to drive up Williams’ price.
Earlier the Lakers were asking for Love,now they’re supposed to be asking for Williams? Suuuure. They won’t even include Gasol for Howard.
After Stern killed the deal ..
.. rumors still popped up occasionally that the Lakers would still try to trade Gasol to the Rockets. There was talk about the Lakers being worried about the CBA’s new penalty for teams that stayed over the lux for long periods, and what would happen financially with Bynum (and Dwight). Some suggested Gasol might be miffed to be discarded.
I don’t know if these rumors had any validity, but Houston fans said that Morey would not be receptive to offers for Pau Gasol, because his original reason for bringing him in — to pair him with Marc Gasol or Nene — was no longer possible.
First it was Love for Gasol, now Williams + draft pics for Gasol
I don’t think these rumors are coming from us.
Gasol’s gotta be a tough guy to trade given his salary. Especially if it’s to the Wolves. We don’t really have any big contracts so I’d imaging we’d be sending at least three if not four players their way. They don’t have any open roster spots so how does that work? I’d guess a third team would have to be involved, and in that case, I’d bet we’re not the destination for Gasol.
Wicked write up thanks for doing the leg work on this
Its write ups like these that keep me coming back to CH
by WolvesBigTicket on Feb 16, 2012 10:22 PM CST reply actions
Gotta be kidding
If the Wolves trade all of these assets for Pau……I would start the petition for relocation. I just find it hard to believe they would do this. They FINALLY have some excitment around this team and they would not only add to the log jam at the big postions, they are getting older and DECIMATING the team salary. I can think of 15 2 or 3’s that would be better a better fit than gasol. The wolves have the assets to trade for nearly any swingman that becomes available. Using them on Gasol would be the worse than the Jaric debacle. If I were glen Taylor and Kahn brought this to me for approval…….I would tell him to pack his bags and leave the building.
by drj2k on Feb 16, 2012 11:10 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Wait... so there's 3 years left on his deal?
And in 3 years we can sign Rubio to a max deal? So those 2 don’t conflict with eachother?
Nope.
This would show that the Wolves are serious about winning, something that both Ricky Rubio and Kevin Love would love to see. Say what you want, Rubio and Love need to know we’re serious about winning to stay here. In 3 years, I believe Gasol would accept a 3 year/24 million deal or something like that to stick with our young core and give us flexibility going forward.
We would probably make the playoffs this year if we did do this trade, and we would be set up for getting a vet 2 or 3 next year that will help us even more, because we all know that if we have Rubio leading the show and a Love/Gasol frontcourt, we will have vet wings lining up to play with us. Minnesota would be the place vet wings would want to come. They’d take less to play alongside Rubio, and with Love/Gasol taking pressure off of them as well. I could see a guy like Ray Allen or Rudy Fernandez (to play with his 2 countrymen) or C.J. Miles or Vince Carter take less money to come play with that trio.
All I’m saying is this: IF we get Pau Gasol, we’re showing our young players we’re serious about winning. IF we show our young players we’re serious about winning, we’re more likely to have them sign extensions here, and that’s the ultimate goal.
Trading for Pau Gasol would increase the chances that Kevin Love and Ricky Rubio sign long-term extensions here. For that reason alone, it’s the right move. He will help us in the short-term with his all-star level play, and he will help us in the future by helping us retain our 2 franchise players: Love and Rubio.
If we don’t trade for Gasol, I would say it’s a 50/50 chance that we keep Rubio past his rookie deal. If we do trade for Gasol, his personal friend, I think there’s about a 90% chance we keep Rubio after his rookie deal.
It’s that simple. Derrick Williams may turn into a great player. I’m not doubting that. But Gasol already is. He has a good relationship with our young stud PG. Anything we can do to keep the Love/Rubio duo, I’m all for it.
This is repetitive, I did that on purpose. It is this way to show the clear connection between trading for Pau Gasol and retaining Kevin Love and Ricky Rubio.
by mak07 on Feb 16, 2012 11:24 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Or in three years a great time was had by all,
Adelman retires, and they all leave. Oh well, it might be worth it, but I wouldn’t bet the ranch on any of the innumerable possibilities.
"pokin' the animals at the Canis Hoopus zoo"
by pastyearsears on Feb 17, 2012 12:11 AM CST up reply actions
I don't buy it. Rubio has to love playing with Pek right now. Pek seems to be able to run the Pek and roll with Rubio pretty well and has been good at finishing around the hoop.
Gasol simply isn’t a big enough upgrade for us now to be worth being likely the last move we can make. If we used the same trade pieces to get Iggy or something, then everything would be fantastic and yes, that would really show commitment to winning and improving in a useful way.
Rubio's contract
Team option in three years, team option in 4 yrs, and a player option in 5…
by Krazykarl333 on Feb 21, 2012 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
Save money for Batum
He is worth, I gaurentee it. Pay him 13-14 mill/year and Portland can’t match. Pek, Batum, Rubio, Love.
Then get Courtney Lee for the 2. That would be an awesome young lineup
like it
Pek > "Demarcus Cousins"
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Feb 17, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
"If we don’t trade for Gasol, I would say it’s a 50/50 chance that we keep Rubio past his rookie deal. If we do trade for Gasol, his personal friend, I think there’s about a 90% chance we keep Rubio after his rookie deal."
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
Does that mean you agree?
A link to a comedian’s song is great, but… What does that exactly mean?
I think we need to do whatever is necessary to keep Rubio and Love T-Wolves for a LONG time, and trading for Gasol will help achieve that result.
Sure, the percentages are totally opinion-based, but without a doubt there is a better chance Rubio re-signs if we get him Gasol and prove we are serious about winning in MN.
I do not think Pau Gasol improves our chances of keeping either.
First, I agree Love wants to see the team improve, but you’ve used your major assets to fill HIS position! This means we can’t add a great SG or SF, which is what the team rteally needs to win. I definitely do not agree that Gasol is the only player we could possibly add.
Even if Pau Gasol was still on our team (or in the NBA) when Rubio’s contract was up, it still wouldn’t matter. As a lottery pick rookies, he’s not going anywhere if we really want to keep him. The CBA gives the drafting team an incredible advantage to keep a rookie superstar, because he can sign that first, $50+ mil free agent deal a full year ahead of any other team. Rubio made pennies in Spain, and will have been on rookie scale for 4 years. This makes it an incredible risk to not sign a big money deal, because an injury could cost you $50+ mil. In fact the rookie needs to play for two years without injury to get out .. the year early, and a second year on the qualifying offer before he’d become a complete unconditional free agent.
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I hear people argueing “We need to improve the team” and I agree. But I disagree with the idea that Pau Gasol is the right guy you do it .. and we will never get a chance at any other player.
by shrink on Feb 17, 2012 9:06 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm saying you pulled those percentages out of your ass.
You have no idea what will compel Love and Rubio to stay. Getting Gasol might do the trick, but I would imagine that addressing a position of need would go farther. We NEED a good SG and a good SF. We have solid-to-above-average play at the other three positions.
Also, Todd Snider isn’t a comedian. He’s a singer who’s funny because his songs are so accurate.
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
50% of the adults in my home
agree that Todd Snider’s East Nashville Skyline album is great. The other 50% are willing to tolerate it in small doses. Data from the three year old is inconclusive at this time.
As for Gasol- I understand both sides of the argument (see above). He is a special player with too high of a cost.
The part I don’t see is the Lakers trading him for Derrick Williams which would essentially mean rebuilding right before Kobe’s eyes when he has a shrinking window in which to win. Maybe if it’s part of a larger trade of some kind but I really don’t see it happening.
Part of a Howard trade?
Wolves keep Gasol and Redick?
Too hot to handle, too cold to hold
They're called the Ghostbusters and they're in control
by littleboxes on Feb 17, 2012 8:12 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
What the hell...
100% of me thinks Todd Snider’s double live album “The Storyteller” is one of the best things I’ve ever heard…but that’s just me. Cynical Jason is 97% accurate with his take on Gasol. There is no real need…..I’d still like to see him play for the Twolves
Oh.
I’ve never watched Todd Snider before.
I guess I didn’t find him funny so I figured he was a comedian.
I said I don’t have proof about the numbers, that would be impossible. I do know that Rubio has publicly stated that he would like to play with Pau. I do know that Pau is a C, Love is a PF, and any combination of Pau/Love, Pau/Pek, and Love, Pek would work in our frontcourt. If Pau gets 32 MPG and Love gets 38 MPG, that still leaves 26 MPG for Pek.
We would have the best front court in the NBA.
We would also have the a young, pass-first, top-5 PG in the NBA.
We would have SG’s and SF’s want to sign here.
Also, I do know what will get Love and Rubio to stay. Winning. Pau Gasol helps us do that.
Please clarify
Who is the small forward on the best front court in the NBA?
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by pastyearsears on Feb 17, 2012 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
Well... After looking at the FA list...
I could see us going after a guy like Landry Fields in FA. He could play the 2 or 3 (He’s 6’7’’).
We may also be interested in Wilson Chandler. He’s a very capable SF.
If we get 1 of these 2, we’ll be in good shape. We also might have a draft pick from Utah.
I think Fields will probably sign a 3 year/12 mil deal and Chandler will probably get a 2 year/16mil deal. Either would be a great fit.
We also have Anthony Tolliver on our bench. Martell Webster can play the 3 some. Wes Johnson is terrible, but he’s better at the 3 than the 2.
Honestly, we could run out Love/Pau/Pek/Tolliver to fill the SF, PF, and C positions, and we’d still have a top 5 front court in the NBA. Any improvements would only put us higher on the list.
Deng, Noah, Boozer is probably better right now.
Bosh, LeBron, and Anthony is questionable. Bosh and LeBron, obviously are studs, but I’d rather have Pek AND Tolliver than Joel Anthony, by a long shot.
Memphis and OKC have good front courts. They are both higher on the list right now.
New York also does, but they’re grossly overpaid.
So right now, I would put CHI, MEM, OKC and NYK ahead of us on the list. We’d be number 5 if we had Pau/Love/Pek/Tolliver… But I’d much rather have our situation than the Knicks situation (53 mil tied up to Chandler/Anthony/Amare next year)
Heh...if you're going to go after a high-priced, aging Laker...
Shock the world and try to trade for Kobe, at least he fits a position of need, and the opportunity might just feed into his ego. “Hey, Kobe, the Wolves look like a legitimate team this year… they have a PF who can shoot the 3 and rebound like a maniac, they have the Great Wall of Montenegro at center, and a PG that has unbelievable vision and great ball hawking skills… and he would much rather find a shooter open anywhere they can get rather than shoot himself. You can prove that you are the greatest in NBA by making THAT team a playoff contender.”
hehe
Oh, and lots of blondes
Too hot to handle, too cold to hold
They're called the Ghostbusters and they're in control
by littleboxes on Feb 17, 2012 8:13 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
very compelling argument
but lets be clear, Pau Gasol is a top 25 Player in this League
He’s won 2 Championships
as a big guy he can easily perform at a high level for the remainder of his contract
he’s probably one of the very very few top players who would be happy playing in Minny with Rrrricky.
this is an all-in move to win something before the Love/Rubio resigning period arrives.
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by beatsandpeasnyc on Feb 17, 2012 8:53 AM CST reply actions
i should've ditto'd mak07 above
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by beatsandpeasnyc on Feb 17, 2012 8:58 AM CST up reply actions
Pau or whoever else, you can't pass up the oportunity to get great players
Because you’re waiting for the perfect player to come over. I mean, if there is a young, reliable goto guy out there who is as clutch as it gets, can lock down his man and can be had at bargain price, I’m not entirely sure his preferred destination will be Minnesota.
.1. Go-to scorer, particularly in the 4th quarter
2. Someone who can get their own shot off
3. Strong defender
4. Fits for age
5. Fits financially
Unless the Wolves are planning to overpay for someone like OJ Mayo or Eric Gordon I don’t see the point in having “cap flexibility”
I mean, do you not agree that OJ Mayo
would be like 5x more of an improvement for us than Gasol? I would love to overpay for him, because he would actually help improve this team dramatically.
I'm not high on Mayo
He’d cost a lot, is terrible at defense, and is a ball hog. Sure, he can score the ball, but I see him as Ricky Davis 2.0.
Rudy Fernandez, on the other hand, would be someone I’m much more in favor of acquiring.
They both have identical 14.1 PER’s for their careers.
Rudy is a team player, and his 14/4/4 per 36 is much more beneficial to the team around him than Mayo’s 16/4/3.
Both are great shooters. Mayo is a better pure scorer, but I’d take Rudy in almost everything else. Especially defense. Rudy would cost less than 1/2 of what we’d have to pay for Mayo too…
Good players attract good players
we’ve seen that many times, a core of Love, Pau and Rubio can get some decent veterans for cheap to fill the holes.
If the wolves have a real shot at Pau, do it, after his huge contract, about the time Rubio needs the money, we can work a deal with Pau for less money if the team is attractive.
Unicorns do exists, on wolves skin.
A couple points
First, if the Wolves are even considering going all in now by trading Williams for a vet, they were foolish not to sign Love to a 5 year deal. If Williams is traded, the team only has two potential 5 year signees, Love and Rubio. Love is an All-Star, Rubio has that potential. Love should have gotten five years.
Second, if they are giving up Williams, they need to maximize the return in three areas. Those areas are talent, team, and money. With Gasol, they would be taking a bloated contract for a short term fix that still wouldn’t get this team in top 4 of the Western Conference, this season or next. If they are going to make the big jump by trading Williams, the return has to be a legit starting wing.
Both our PF and C put up better than 30-10 tonight.
We don’t need frontcourt help. Have 2 wolves players ever got 30-10 in the same game in Wolves history?
find players who put wolves in Playoff the next 3 years...
so, take Gasol and a scorer future? Derrick willians a franchise player?
If wolves doesnt get the play-offs the next 3 years will lost Love, Rubio,…. ah, but they still can keep Derrick
It´s been said before: Kahn´s best quality = patience.
He´s going to take time to evaluate team´s needs and what there´s in the house before he goes out to look for help.
I really can't like anything about the Gasol trade proposal.
He plays Love and Pek’s positions. He’s not a wing player. That’s basically Derrick Williams, too, but at least with Williams, you get potential and maybe even a small forward if he works at it. Gasol is past his prime and the only reason people want him in Minnesota is some sort of “Rubio-Gasol” reunion. I think the Wolves could do better for themselves if they’re offering one of their more valuable pieces like that.
That money alone is not worth bringing him in
Gasol can play tough, but it is not in his nature to play tough night in and night out. That is not a good match with the way twolves want to play in the post.
Give me Ellis- a fit as per above except for #3...
and I think Adelman could factor into Monte’s D to give it a shot of adrenalin.
Still have my Foye jersey. Hey- at least she TRIED! :--)
Three way trade between Twolves, Lakers and Rockets
If the Rockets want Gasol so much this could work.
Rockets get Gasol.
Twolves get a SG from Rockets (Courtney Lee?), and some other pieces like Chase Budinger.
Lakers get Scola, Beasley (ideally Barea if he could be traded), one of our many bench PFs and some more pieces from the Rockets, possibly Dragic.
Lakers get a young PG, Beasley for bench scoring. Rockets get Gasol, and Wolves solve their SG issue at the expense of Beasley and get a SF in the bench that can be relied on.
The trade worked in the trade machine but I am not sure if it makes sense…
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