Great Moments in David Kahn History: Part 1
by TimAllen on Feb 17, 2012 11:53 AM CST
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Believe it or not, but there are some statistics out there that suggest the Minnesota Timberwolves are pretty bad at the wing positions.
The Wolves have had a net production of -5.8 PER at shooting guard and -6.5 PER at small forward. In John Hollinger's BAD (Below Average Dependency) rating, the Wolves are the worst in the NBA at the small forward position. Wesley Johnson alone has caused an average of 6.8 remotes thrown per game.
David Kahn doesn't believe the hype. He's just fine with our wing players and said he is unlikely to make any type of major move before the March 15th trade deadline.
Kahn has a history of making tough decisions like these. Check out some other great moments in David Kahn history:
"Our Maginot Line should definitely stop the Germans from invading us. " - David Kahn, 1935, France
"Don't worry, guys. I shot Michael six times. I don't think he could survive that." - David Kahn, 1978, Haddonfield, Illinois
"John, I know this woman from Alaska. She would make a fantastic Vice Presidential candidate." - David Kahn, 2007, Phoenix, Arizona
"Ben Affleck, Jennifer Lopez and Al Pacino. Who wouldn't want to watch this movie?" - David Kahn, 2003, Hollywood, California
"George, those indians don't stand a chance against our cavalry. I say 'attack'." - David Kahn, 1876, Little Bighorn, Montana
."A theme park with living dinosaurs. What could possibly go wrong?" - David Kahn, 1993, Isla Nublar
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Everything I could possibly say
with expletives you say with humor. Kudos!
I too am a lone wolfpack.
Recced,
despite Howard The Duck getting thrown under the bus. There’s a Dark Overlord in a Jeffrey Jones suit who wants a word with you.
I only ever want the Wolves to draft 5th.
@BrettAhlgren
I'm with these guys.. how are you going to diss "Howard the Duck"...
I loved that movie.
Apparently, Howard the Duck is near-and-dear to a lot of people...
I replaced it.
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I think everyone can approve of your replacement.
Rec’d
by Imyourhuckleberry on Feb 17, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
As a movie fan
(read “self appointed film snob”)…..I must admit. I don’t know what movie Tim used to replace Howard the Duck.
Any help?
I've only seen the the post-duck version
I’m guessing you are referring to the Ben Affleck + J-Lo movie, GIGLI
Al Pacino was apparently in Gigli. News to me.
My doppelganger, Mr. Affleck, was enough to keep me away.
The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.
Don't let the Howard the Duck enthusiasts push you around
They are already on a government watch list.
For what it’s worth, I would have gone Isthar. But Howard the Duck was an excellent choice.
Ishtar is quite relevant for Kahn
“Telling the truth can be dangerous business
Honest and popular don’t go hand in hand”
100 Hoopus points to the first person who can finish that lyric.
If you admit that you play the accordion,
No one will hire you in a rock ‘n’ roll band.
by Sam Gibbons on Feb 17, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ding ding ding!
Now someone can join me in the shame of remembering that. (Or maybe you Googled it.)
I used to claim that
then I just ’essed up that Warren Beaty and Dustin Hoffman in the desert was the right decision.
I give LoveTo points for
Making me actually go through the song in my mind wondering if that was the lyric.
;-)
Let me be the first to cast a vote
for Jeff Goldblum for GM. As long as he takes advice from TimAllen.
by Jordan Seiffert on Feb 17, 2012 12:18 PM CST reply actions
He would be awsome.
Great with statistics and displayed a high IQ in Independence Day.
"Wes Johnson is quite possibly the worst player in the NBA" - Everyone
by AndrePatterson on Feb 17, 2012 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
I can't wait til he tries to upload a virus into Anthony Morrow
"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"
by Steven Ellingson on Feb 17, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
Well played
Tim some nice lighthearted humor. Much appreciated.
Personally what I find so humorous about Kahn’s comments is not what he says, but the reaction to what he says.
Seriously what do people expect…. “Oh yes, I’m going for a huge trade and I’m telling you this, so I can lose all leverage in negotiations, and destroy the few shreds of confidence that my current players.”
Very true...
although, I at least, am sick of being duped by the “Kahn is just saying what he is supposed to, he doesn’t really think that” take in the past. Not trading out of 2, Wes over Cousins, no moves at TD last season, no big (player) moves this summer… He keeps holding to the things he says when we least want him to.
by vjl110 on Feb 17, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Correct
Let’s fact it. There has not been a single point in the history of the Wolves (and I’ve been a fan for most of it) where I could honestly say
“I am confident that the front office is competent and working hard”
McHale was, by many accounts, extremely lazy. Did not scout much except at NCAA time. Went fishing and golfing during the summer a lot. Would say nothing in the media for long periods, would then issue some folksy truisms about the roster than made you feel good, would then address nothing and sign a few duds or over the hill guys to round out the roster.
Kahn, by many accounts, is a hard worker but not a basketball guy or talent evaluator. Makes draft picks based on an esoteric standard of athleticism & length, makes very confusing FA moves (ditch Sessions + sign Luke, sign another PG in JJ, make big offer to David Lee, believe Darko will be different here). Add to this a natural tendency by humans to wait too long for mistakes to miraculously pan out (Wes, Flynn), and you have a guy that is hard to have faith in.
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Feb 17, 2012 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
Doh - Let's *face* it...
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Feb 17, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Not to mention the fact that if he's being so open about
Beasley’s marijuana use and the fact that he thinks Kevin Love is the 4th best player on a contender, why would we reasonably believe he’s not also being open about other things?
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by TimAllen on Feb 17, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
it's tough
to say that a player with a career like McHale’s was lazy, especially considering his accomplishments and the way he played through injuries, but Bird was always slightly pissed with his running mate for not devoting himself more. ‘Course that was Bird, and he pretty much lived and breathed basketball all year. McHale acknowledged the differences in attitude by saying in effect, "that’s Larry, I’ve got a life". Makes some sense, but with that mindset it’s not hard to question some of his decisions as a coach or a front office guy.
Sorry, I should have been more clear
I was speaking to McHale’s activity level as GM. To be honest, when hearing about how it evolved from an initial role as more of an advisor, I think he told Taylor he didn’t want the full-time gig due to the time required and Taylor was willing to take what McHale would give.
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Feb 17, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
I wasn't disagreeing....
you’re right. Kevin has always been kind of a “laid back” guy. He’s pretty funny actually, his stint on Cheers was worth watching, and I always enjoyed his basketball commentary. But for the truly successful GM you probably NEED one of those “it’s what I live for” types. Definitely not McHale’s style.
Uh Kahn actually does what he says
Thats the unfortunate part
by WolvesBigTicket on Feb 17, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, that's exactly what he does
Remember the lead up to the Cousins / Wes draft, and how he kept insisting publicly we would take Wes, and that he had called up Sacramento and asked if we could ‘game them’ by threatening to take Cousins.
Remember how we all hoped he was crafty? that it was a smokescreen, because surely he wouldn’t say….
“Oh yes, I’m going for Wes Johnson and I’m telling you this, so that I can lose all leverage in draft negotatiations, and destroy the few shreds of confidence that our current fans have.”
David Kahn has no filter.
What I expect to hear
“It’s clear we aren’t getting great production at the wing and that has to improve for this to become a better basketball team. While we’re hopeful that somebody currently on the roster will develop into at least one of the wings this team desperately needs, if that doesn’t materialize, we will need to make moves, whether in the draft, free agency or via trade, to address this deficiency. The players on the roster understand that the current production is not acceptable, and if they do not show improvement, they understand that the team will likely evolve in a way that limits their opporutnities to contribute in a meaningful way going forward. I want the fans and the players on the roster to know that both the front office and Coach Adelman will seek every means possible to improve the play of this team.”
I don’t know what leverage the team is losing by admitting the wing talent on this team sucks. The rest of the league is just as aware as Hollinger that they suck. I also don’t care about player confidence, coddling players that are unproductive is no path to success. Challenge those players to get better, and if they don’t, discard them and move on. This is a business after all.
Michael Beasley is a sixth man. Derrick Williams is trade bait.
by Ebomb on Feb 17, 2012 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 10 recs
A fine response... but a true Kahn hater would easily come up with this response...
“We aren’t get great production at the wing…” Show of hands, who thinks our wings suck ass?! Anyone? Anyone know the f*cking stats on our wings production? You can replace a wing with Wally the Beerman and it’s be a step up.
“…if that doesn’t materialize…” What the f*ck does that mean? Are you a magician? Are you “I Dream of f*cking Jeanie”? That’s the genius of you Kahn! You expect production to magically appear out of the thin air.
You’re waiting to “address this deficiency” via free agency and the draft? You’re draft history is abismal and you’ve never gotten a great player in free agency. And you dare wait that long?! WTF!
“The players understand that their production is not acceptable.” Who the f*ck do you think you are? Rick Adelman. Don’t talk to the f*cking players. Stay the f*ck away from them. You’re not a coach, you don’t know sh*t!
Damn you KKKKKKKKKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!
This is silly.
Nobody said those things. Just because you’re pretending they would doesn’t mean Kahn shouldn’t make a statement like that.
Think the point is really
People would find fault with no matter what he says. He is annoying, no argument here.
And, did I really exaggerate that much?
I've risen in defense of David Kahn before.
The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.
Haha funny
Reminds me of the Iraqi Information Minister. Remember during the capture of Baghdad he was denying that anything had gone wrong while a bunch of soldiers were hanging out in the background with one of those f-off Abrams tanks in the background?
http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/#quotes
T'Wolves 2012: Where Pek Decimates Jason Thompson
Kahn has an eye for the bods too
“I mean he’s only 19. It’s just so amazing to me how young these kids are. This kid has a body that’s hard to believe. He’s 6-10, 260 [pounds], 6 percent body fat, he’s really sturdy. I think that he’ll have a very long and productive career.” – http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/124396524.html
Kahn reports Wes’ pecs and biceps are looking firm and bigger just from his training this offseason thus far — Jerry Zgoda tweet to Jim Souhan on June 24, 2011
Where there is a D-Williams, there is a way
Here we go with this again...
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by TimAllen on Feb 17, 2012 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Come on Tim
Do Kahn’s homoerotic player quotes ever really get old?
Not as bad as Donald Sterling's via Elgin.
"I'm shocked - shocked - to find basketball going on in here."
You should add this quote to your signature. That way, this quote will be highlighted in every one of your posts, rather than the current 50%.
Michael Beasley is a sixth man. Derrick Williams is trade bait.
by Ebomb on Feb 17, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Canis Hoopus should just do a spin off website
KAAAAAAAAHHHNNNNNN.COM
http://loisaidabbclub.tumblr.com/
Twitter: @loisaidabbclub
by beatsandpeasnyc on Feb 17, 2012 1:22 PM CST reply actions
If you look at positives and negatives
how does Kahn actually stack up? He’s obviously not totally incompetent, he got Ricky here after all. I assume he brought in the new coach, which was a good decision. Is his track record so overwhelmingly bad?
Positives: RA, Ricky
Negatives: All other draft picks that weren’t completely obvious.
There’s a lot of neutral stuff as well.
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 17, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
I'd add, "Ability to Make Jean Shorts Appropriate for Any Occasion"
to the Positives list
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by TimAllen on Feb 17, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
While Kahn 100% deserves some crap for the things he has done\said,
I’d rather have him over Michael Jordan running the show.
Nice post Tim! I was a-chucklin’ the whole way through! I’m eagerly anticipating what Part 2 will look like….
I'm not creative enough to have a signature.
It certainly is baffling
how we have had so many draft picks/trades/acquisitions in the past 6 years dating back to McHale and all our best players are still post players and point guards
now part of the issue could very well be the fact that those are the two positions that have been by far the deepest in recent drafts and that the best wings to come out in the past few years:
Wes Matthews (2nd round)
Paul George (who we still should have drafted I maintain)
James Harden (who we maybe could have traded up for, but was out of our range)
Evan Turner (see James Harden comment)
Demar Derozan (say what you want, he’s a better player than Johnny or Wes)
Gerald Henderson (see DD comment)
Iman Shumpert (bad PG, good SG prospect)
Landry Fields (who is kinda blah in general)
Marshon Brooks (is producing for a lousy team with no other options….in saying that I’d take him over what we got)
Steph Curry is a hybrid, Jrue Holiday could certainly play in a starting backcourt with Rubio due to their big PG size each of them have (I think they are both 6’3/6’4)
so while Kahn is completely rippable as over half this list he has passed on, this is really it for the past 3 drafts, a handful of players most of which are fairly blah but they would look good here
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
I feel that Curry hurts the most
I felt it was obvious he was going to be a stud and still see nothing in Flynn.
by SharkKings49 on Feb 17, 2012 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
I liked Curry as a PG
But not as a SG
i think Rubio/Curry has a cap on how good it could be together. Now had you drafted better (say Curry/Lawson/George etc) could u better equip yourself to package a deal for James Harden (who would be perfect with Rubio)?
Even if Curry/Cousins wouldn’t ever have worked with Love/Rubio I think the question of BPA vs fit has forever been answered for me. Go BPA and work around it.
Now in my opinion Paul George has always been the BPA in the 2010 draft, but that is a different story.
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Realistic trade idea:
Minnesota gets Wade and Durant.
Oklahoma City gets Webster, Darko and Ridnour.
Miami gets Beasley, Miller and Wes.
Who says no?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7ytnbyk
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by TimAllen on Feb 17, 2012 2:18 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Minnesota
Wade and Durant play basically the same position and I want to give Williams more time to adapt to the 3
by WolvesBigTicket on Feb 17, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Me
if you are trading with OKC you gotta get Harden, forget Durant
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Is that real
How is that possible? I thought NBA trade machine is to predict possible trades based on PER.
actually I got it now
I thought trades were based on Per, but after looking at it again its different
Trade
So, I don’t know much about the cap implications or anything, but it seems like the wolves should try a straight up Beasley for JJ Redick trade. Dwight and Beasley seem like they’d fit together nicely and we need a pure shooter more than a Beasley-type player. It seems like it makes sense from both perspectives. I think Beasley’s trade value may be slightly higher than Redicks, but I think we’d have better use for JJ. Any thoughts?
Beasley for JJ
Would be great
Magic seem dumb enough and desperate enough to do it
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
really?
he’s probably one of 4 GM’s I would bet my house on that are worse than Kahn
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Charollette guy
Toronto guy
if the Kings guys were just the last half decade I would put them in their too but the Petrie guy was there in the good times as well I believe.
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Cho???
You must not like your house very much.
600 N First Ave "like a Pirate's cove".
He might be hamstrung by his owner
cause I generally liked what he did in Por
but between hiring Paul Silas, trading for Maggette, drafting two players I wasn’t crazy about I have not been impressed with what he is doing.
In a very Kahn like way of looking at things, his best player was an “old regime” guy in Augustin and his second best player might be Gerald Henderson
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
He didn't trade for Maggette. He traded for Biyombo.
Maggette was the price. He also managed to unload an unhappy and extension seeking Captn Jack in the deal. It was solid work. Better than solid if Biyombo pans out.
600 N First Ave "like a Pirate's cove".
The other aspect
is I was and still am lukewarm at best about Biyombo and even more so about Kemba Walker as fixture NBA players.
I still think the two best “prospects” are Augustin and Henderson as they play more natural NBA positions and those are two guys that appear to not be a part of their long term plans.
I think Cho right now appears to me to be the guy who is most overrated in the NBA. He may have been Dewayne Casey’d in Portland but outside of his reputation I’m not overly impressed with what he’s done in the small sample size in CHA
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
He was able to fleece Charlotte bad enough in the Wallace trade he ended up getting a job out of it.
600 N First Ave "like a Pirate's cove".
Kahn fleeced the WiZards out of Rubio
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Kahn Also said....
“It is a good idea to trade all of your draft picks for Hershel Walker, he obviously has many good years left and you’ll never get anyone good for these draft picks”
-1989 Vikings Front Office
and
“Trading Johan Santana for Carlos Gomez, Devolis Guerra and Phillip Humber is better than trading him for Jon Lester and Dustin Pedroia”
-2008 Twins Front Office
“Hire Kurt Rambis, his zen training and triangle office is what will make the Timberwolves and innovative good team.”
-2010 T-Wolves Front office
by MarkGerard on Feb 17, 2012 2:27 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
But I think it was Ellsbury instead of Pedroia.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Feb 17, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
Kahn also said...
“Let’s move the Gopher football team off campus to the Dome, as it will be a godsend for recruiting and lead to us being B1G champions.”
“Norm Green is going to be a great owner for the North Stars franchise”
Kahn told George Lucas
that Greedo shot first.
by Madison Dan on Feb 17, 2012 2:38 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Wow. You made me just realize that Han was a cold-blooded dude from the start
This is my opinion and does not constitute an endorsement, opinion or official position of the U.S. Army.
by ronatcampzama on Feb 17, 2012 4:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm sure you all would have done a much better job
with your psychic hindsight abilitiez
This comment
told me nothing about poop.
I only ever want the Wolves to draft 5th.
@BrettAhlgren
by BrettAhlgren on Feb 17, 2012 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Kahn
Just one solid trade and we are there COME ON KAHN DUMP THE DEAD WEIGHT AND GET SOME PRODUCTION!
I don't buy it.
There might be a reason, like maybe “there aren’t any long term upgrades at 2 or 3 on the trading block right now.”
I’d rather them continue building right now if they figure they can find a better deal in the offseason. I don’t think a lot of teams really want to take on the Wolves baggage, unless they’re out of the playoff picture and want some expiring contracts to clear up cap room. Of which the best one on the Wolves, Darko’s, won’t expire (as far as I know) for awhile. And with the accelerated season, a lot of teams that are struggling with maxed caps (and there aren’t that many right now) can chalk it up to being unprepared for this sort of season and put off their upgrades for next year. I don’t think the situation is as conducive to making a great trade as you might think.
I think the more likely reason is that David Kahn is
A) Stubborn
and
B) Not knowledgeable about professional basketball
That’s a pretty bad combination.
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I actually wish Kahn would hire some player personnel guy
And be the money guy. He seems good at that.
the stubborn part is more bothersome to me
I think he understands his bball limitations and listens to the people around him well, but once he goes with something he goes with it till it dies
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Agreed
He doesn’t seem to be willing to admit mistakes.
I picture Kahn seeing film of Wes at Iowa St, and it was love at first sight.
by Jordan Seiffert on Feb 17, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
Your ideas are intriguing to me
and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 17, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
He has actually said your first sentence, sort of, recently.
Compare your version:
"(T)here aren’t any long term upgrades at 2 or 3 on the trading block right now."His on MPR:
But there’s only a small handful of players in the league that are obtainable…. Sure, we’d love to have LeBron. But there’s only a small numbers of players in the league
McHale’s version:
It takes two to tango.
The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.
Consider
If we don’t start making moves like a contender who is going to want to come here??
"We have five people who can play the position ..."
David Kahn, to republican leadership regarding the House Oversight Committee’s Panel on Birth Control — February 2012
"Deserve ain't got nothin' to do with it."
-- W. Munney (1992) / Snoop (2008)
by ol' weird harold on Feb 17, 2012 3:03 PM CST reply actions
Who says no
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7j7su9o
Wolves: Splitter/Danny Green/Lenoard
Spurs: Pekavic/Webster
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
I would hope the Wolves.
If we’re going to try and sell high on Pek, I would hope we could get more than that for him.
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by TimAllen on Feb 17, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
fair enough
that isn’t a bad haul though right?
2 above average wings and a slightly worse center who is about the same age?
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
(I don't see why the Spurs would do the deal, if that makes you feel better.)
by Madison Dan on Feb 17, 2012 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Cause Pek is sweet?
yeah idk
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Dude, better stop misspelling Pekovic's name
or CJ will body slam you and then body slam your couch on you (or something like that.)
He's Ricky Rubio. He’s not like anyone else.
Im trusting Kahn with this one.
Heard him talk a lot of times in his interview, and always seems to have a direction and plan in mind. If he trusts in his young wings to develop, I will wait as a fan. Wes and Williams have disappointed a lot, but they have been steadily improving.
Nah
I’m positive about Wes right now but there’s no way he’s going to develop into a good wing.
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 17, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
A direction and a plan in mind?
Not to be too self-promoting, but I’d like to direct you to my “Windows of Opportunity” post from last season.
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I was on team Kahn for awhile
but the whole “signature move” business was kinda the final straw for me
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
I've actually settled into the notion
That Kahn is a kind like a fantasy basketball GM. Everything sounds good on paper (get a long athletic guys who can play). Get David Lee, or Pau, or some other obvious choice. But doesn’t really comprehend how to make it all fit together.
This is also the reason so many GMs suck. It’s the putting it all together part that’s hard. Look at the talent on Sac, GS, and Charlotte. Loads. But it doesn’t fit together.
Then we have the Knicks who have come together because of finding gems like Lin, Fields, Steve Novak and Shumpert. Glue guys.
My bad, here's the link
http://www.canishoopus.com/2011/2/25/2014540/tims-game-preview-game-59-new-orleans-hornets
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Other than Kahn, has there ever been a GM who has moved the goalposts this much? Seems like he preaches patience, every year
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 17, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
True
But the trouble is… this year, we legitimately have to be patient. New coach, rookie PG, new system, stink of Rambis years, and hardly a training camp or time to practice.
We can all say too bad, we’re tired of waiting. But the truth is we have to give Adelman time to do his work and stay poised for the right deal. Both those objectives require patience.
by Rodman99 on Feb 17, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Has anyone hard Kahn mention Williams in anything?
Not that it matters cause it’s proven Kahn talks out of 4 different sides of his mouth, but does he believe Williams will play 3 does he see Will in the long term plans?
I basically only hear Adleman say he doesn’t think Williams looks comfortable out there, but it is bizarre to have such a high draft pick and have him not really mentioned at all good or bad.
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
It is weird
I think all the publicity to Rubio and Pek is kind of masking an awkward situation. The #2 pick in the draft, and the highest in Wolves history, can barely get minutes on his team. And it is really unclear if he has a significant future role on the team.
If the Wolves had only added Williams this year and Pek was playing like last year, I suspect this would be getting a lot more attention. Not that the attention would necessarily do any good. I just think Kahn is getting kind of lucky here in that his extremely weird roster, with excess at some positions and nothing at others, is not getting more scrutiny. It is burying our #2 pick.
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Feb 17, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
Well one positive thing - Wes and Derrick are abandoning the things they cannot do for the things they can -
Wes is blocking shots, defending, and cherry picking for lobs and shooting less from 20. Derrick is also picking his spots better. But is that little turnaround adequate. How long can we wait for them to develop?
"I'm shocked - shocked - to find basketball going on in here."
I kinda want Chase Budginer
I heard someone mention an all white starting 5 of Rubio/Reddick/Budinger/Pek and I didnt love it at first and still don’t love loveit…..but I am kinda infatuated with Budinger right now.
I don’t know how good his handle is but outside of that he is a pretty complete SF
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
He's limited, but cheap and can hit the three.
600 N First Ave "like a Pirate's cove".
Who exactly is Kahn supposed to pick up?
Who exactly is available that is better than who we got?
That being said kahn should be looking for an SF. Maybe one will become available.
I dont put all the blame on Kahn though. aldeman reminds us almost weekly he has no obligation to play anyone. Yet Johnson is still starting.
We have other forwards that play better.
Yes
Beasley, Webster, Williams all play better than Johnson. And this is Beasley with his limp from is injury that hasn’t healed
I guess marginally better is better than nothing. Wes = nothing.
"I'm shocked - shocked - to find basketball going on in here."
Yep. We could at least play some else.
We aren’t exactly trying what we have. Everytime I see Wes out there I cringe. He doesn’t even help on defense.
I hope Adelman is @ POBO with a list, daily b4 the deadline,
"I'm shocked - shocked - to find basketball going on in here."
Funny thing about Wes Johnson that I've seen many times this season -
It cracks me up every time – remember last year they were trying to get Wes to create his own shot by shaking a defender coming out on him by a fake/ side-step dribble? Now he does it when he’s all alone, has time, and he could have done an uncontested corner 3 (if he could hit a corner 3). he does it nearly every time, like he’s programmed for one thing.
He could be the only guy on the side of the building. He could even advance closer to the basket – but nope. Fake and shoot.
"I'm shocked - shocked - to find basketball going on in here."
I'm tired of Johnson
Id rather have Beasley start. And I don’t like Beasley.
Well, here's another game we SHOULD win. Too bad KMart has his eye back.
"I'm shocked - shocked - to find basketball going on in here."
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