Wolves to facilitate Dwight Howard Trade in my dreams.
My thoughts on a way for the Timberwolves to improve their starting lineup.
Nets get: Dwight Howard, Wes Johnson in exhange for: Mehmet Okur, Anthony Morrow, MarShon Brooks, Brook Lopez, two first round picks (2012, 2014, assuming they haven't already traded one of those or the 2013 pick).
Reason why Nets do it: They get the big fish on the trade market in Dwight Howard. They lose two centers they didn't want, and give up two reasonably good shooting guards and a couple first round picks.
Magic get: Mehmet Okur, Martell Webster, Derrick Williams, Nets' two picks, Timberwolves pick in exchange for: Dwight Howard, JJ Redick.
Reason Magic do it: They get a promising young player in D-Will, a decent small forward in Webster, and three first round picks to help rebuild.
Blazers get: Anthony Morrow in exchange for Nicolas Batum
Reason Blazers do it: If I remember correctly, they didn't resign Batum to an extension recently. Perhaps they're not as keen on him. Morrow seems like a decent player who is under contract for an additional year at a reasonable price.
Timberwolves get: MarShon Brooks, JJ Redick, Nicolas Batum, Brook Lopez in exchange for Derrick Williams, Wes Johnson, Martell Webster, 2014 first round pick
Reason Wolves do it: Immediately fix weak spots at shooting guard (with both a starter and backup) and small forward (with a starter, and keep Beasley as sixth man). Also get potential starting-caliber center, though for an undetermined amount of time. As Pek might say, "If he leaves, he leaves." I think the Wolves do it without Lopez, but it seemed to be necessary to make the money work. Give up potential in Williams, give up moderate production in Webster, and shed Wes Johnson, along with losing a first round pick in two years that will hopefully be in the bottom 5 spots or so.
So I'm guessing this probably doesn't work out for one team or another, but it seems like it might be close to me. In terms of money, I tried to do it on ESPN's trade machine, but the "Try This Trade" button did not work, so I'm not certain it would, but it seemed approximately right. However, I don't think I follow the rest of the league to the extent a lot of people on here do. I just like to imagine trades for some reason. Anyway, going forward for the Wolves, I probably amnesty Darko, and try to trade Ridnour and Lopez. I don't think Lopez would stick around, and Pek is looking like a potential starter at C. Try to get rid of those two to shed salary and pick up future picks or something along those lines. Let me know what you think.
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Yeah, I thought that part might be a stretch too
But it seems like the Nets do the trade, barring any hesitation about losing two good players at the same position. The Magic I suspect would need a little more. Not sure where it might come from, but at this point it seems like they’re not going to get the haul for Howard they might want. With this they get the #2 pick in the draft and three future firsts (thought these may be lower in the round if it pays off for the other two teams). I could see the Blazers going either way on it.
I also thought Lopez to Blazers
But that would need them to throw in another player, and I wasn’t familiar enough with their team to know who was a bad contract. If Lopez goes to the Blazers, and they give up another crap player that’s overpaid for this year and maybe one more, I think the Wolves still do it, and the Blazers may be more likely to.
Probably need to give Brooks to the Magic
and then a pick or two too the Blaze to make it work
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
No Chance
Magic do that. There second best player is a power forward. So the package they’d get for Dwight is not going to be based around a player who plays the same position as the guy who would become the Magic’s best player after Dwight is gone.
Epistemic closure means never having to admit you're wrong.
by Spouting Opinions on Feb 3, 2012 9:31 PM CST reply actions
Sticking point
He’s a player I don’t know a whole lot about, but my main thought is that the Magic may not have the greatest options, so better to get talent now and figure out the details later. But I admit that’s a sticking point.
God
My grammar is terrible. Also, I meant to say that they wouldn’t accept a trade based around a power forward who was worse than the power forward they already have. The Magic need the trade for Dwight to based around any other position than power forward. Plus, I’m sure they are looking for someone to take Hedo’s contract with Dwight. They might not get that, but they would hang up on this offer immediately.
Epistemic closure means never having to admit you're wrong.
by Spouting Opinions on Feb 3, 2012 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
Something like this might be more likely
Minnesota: Brook Lopez, Nic Batum, Elliot Williams and Mehmet Okur
Orlando: Derrick Williams, Marshon Brooks, Marcus Camby and picks from NJ and Min
NJ: Howard and Webster
POR: Hedo, Pekavic, Ridnour and Morrow
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
You do not trade Pekovic.
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
Come on man
Derrick Williams and a pick will not get you lopez, brooks, batum and reddick
Maybe this?
MIN: JJ Redick, Omer Asik, Hedo Turkoglu
- Because they get deeper at Center and a legit SG.
CHI: Dwight Howard, Darko Milicic, Ryan Anderson
- Because they get Dwight, need I say more?
ORL: Carlos Boozer, Joakim Noah, Derrick Williams, Wes Johnson, Brad Miller, along with a pick from MIN and a pick from CHI.
-Because they get a legit young starting Center back, a star in Boozer, a young stud in Williams (kicker is that they feel he can play SF), 2 draft picks, an expiring contract, and take a flier on Wes.
Had the same problem with the trade machine, but I believe the numbers do work.
Dwight to CHI again:
CHI IN: Howard, Hedo, Darko (33.9m salary)
CHI OUT: Noah, Deng, Korver, Asik, Chl pick, Chi pick (31.2m salary)
ORL IN: Miller (expiring), Webster (expiring), Korver(expiring), Derrick Williams, Wes Johnson, Asik, Randolph (28.4m salary) + 4 protected 1sts
ORL OUT: Howard, Hedo, Redick (35.9 m salary)
MIN IN: Noah, Deng, Redick (31.1m salary)
MIN OUT: D Williams, Webster, Darko, Miller, Wes Johnson, Randolph, Mem and Utah picks (26.3m salary)
Rubio, Ridnour
Redick, Barea, Ellington
Deng, Beasley
Love, Tolliver
Noah, Pekovic
CHI gets it’s Big 2 (Humungous 2)
ORL clears salary including Turkoglu, gets Derrick Williams and 4 protected picks
MIN adds three starters, but locks up it’s finances.
A huge steal for us to be sure
I love that starting lineup. To be clear I would probably have Pek as the backup 4 and the backup 5 just to get him more minutes.
By getting Williams + Asik + 4 picks + saving money I think Orlando might in the right circumstances do this.
I highly doubt Chicago does this. I can see them giving up Noah, Akik, Korver and two picks but Deng is just too good right now to throw him in.
Here's the thing with D12 and Chicago (from what I've read)
Dwight has the mentality of a 10 year old.
CHI makes a ton of sense. They have assets to return to ORL, and it would be his best chance at a ring.
But he doesn’t want to go there. Apparently he wants to be The Man where ever he goes. DWill must have agreed to be the 2nd banana in NJ. Kobe told Howard he’d be third banana behind himself & Pau, so D12’s interest in LA went down the tubes. In CHI Rose is The Man (and the current MVP) and the first option.
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -- Yogi Berra
by Wile E Coyote on Feb 8, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions

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