Memphis needs backup PG
Mayo again logged minutes as the backup point guard while rookies Jeremy Pargo and Josh Selby remained glued to the bench until garbage time. Mayo has been solid but the question now is if the Griz are in worse shape than last season?
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smells like it's time for a Ridnour + Memphis pick for Mayo trade to me.
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Mayo is a restricted free agent this summer just like Beas and AR. Are we going to match offers on all three of them? Beas and Mayo are going to get big offers.
Ridnour is the third best player on our team we aren’t going to get much better if we give up as much as we get in the trade. Give up JJ and Wayne don’t give up Luke.
Why would we make a qualifying offer to Beas or AR?
Neither player has shown themselves to be worth that (for Beas I think it’s close to $8mil). On the other hand Mayo is playing very good ball and I would gladly offer him $7-8mil for year of his services.
I agree on Beasley, disagree on AR.
AR has acutally played much better than DWill and Tolliver on the season but for some reason he isn’t getting the minutes. I mentioned somewhere else that there has to be something going on behind the scenes that we don’t know because Tolliver has been terrible and DWill has been very inconsistent.
As far as Mayo, he’s easily having the best year of his career offensively and while this maybe one of his better seasons defensively he still isn’t very good, he actually gives up more ppp than Ridnour(0.93 to 0.97). I also don’t see much difference between Mayo and Ridnour other than Mayo is taller(both are good jumper shooters who don’t get to the line and can’t defender sgs), trading Luke and a first for Mayo would be too much, he’s really not an upgrade.
Your argument for keeping AR is that "DWill has been very inconsistent"?
Like AR if you’d like to but don’t use another players’ inconsistency as the reason.
Yes, completely ignore the part where I said that "AR has actually played much better than DWill and Tolliver on the season".
I said that I disagree with not extending his qo and that he should be getting more minutes THIS season, I don’t see the part where I said we should keep AR because DWill was inconsistent, you saw what you wanted to see.
I would do that in a NY minute.
Not sure if Memphis would, but they should. I don’t see them resigning him, and Ridnour could help them out…plus they get their pick back. It’s really hard to tell what Mayo’s pricetag is though. Considering they were down for a Mayo/McRoberts swap, it shocks me they haven’t found a team to deal with yet.
sniff test
Not sure Mayo passes. If they are constantly shopping him they know something we don’t know. Failed drug tests happen regularly in the NBA so there must be something more character-wise going on. Luke plus the pick is too high a price tag in my opinion.
Knowing what I know
I would prefer to keep the pick but if that’s what it took to get the deal done, I think that makes us a playoff team this year so I would do it. At the very least just consider that Mayo offers similar 3pt shooting to Ridnour + better defense. I would even make him a Q.O. for next year and consider it a steal based on what I know (yes I know about the fight with Allen).
What about a Beasley/Mayo swap?
Does that work?
No way
I’d trade them Wes for Mayo. That’s it. Luke and a pick is severely overpaying for him.
by Dr. Wolfenstein on Feb 6, 2012 12:34 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Mayo is not a good basketball player.
We have plenty of bad basketball players. We need good ones.
by vjl110 on Feb 6, 2012 1:33 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
.107wp48, .116ws48
how is he a bad player? Good 3 point shooter, good ball handler, defense looks solid. What am I missing?
on second though DRtg 102 is pretty bad for the team he's on
but I certainly like what I see out of him on defense… =(
yeah I think the stats disagree with you on this one bud
he’s having a pretty awesome season.
He’s a guy who’s always passed the eye test and is now very much passing the stats test too.
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mayooj01.html
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
"he’s having a pretty awesome season"
.1 is average. He is having a pretty average season, not an awesome season. An average season that is easily the best in his career, and considerably worse than that of the guy proposed to trade for him (Luke).
ALSO… he is probably going to get paid more than he deserves this summer and I don’t want to be the team to do it.
Trading Luke for Mayo means… getting an inferior player with a better positional match in the short-term (possible + possible – definitely not a big deal.) Long-term, we lose a trading chip/backup PG and get a mediocre rental, or even worse, overpay for Mayo.
No thanks.
by vjl110 on Feb 7, 2012 8:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yes but your words were bad and "not good"
which are not average. IMO Mayo is worth $6-7mil / year butwill he settle for that? I believe his QO is at $7.3 and I doubt many teams are going to offer more than that given that McRoberts is the best Memphis could come up with as a trade. So assuming we don’t extend a QO to Beasley or Randolph I think we should be able to sign Mayo at a fair price.
True.
There I was responding to Voodoo’s “awesome” hyperbole.
Mayo does great out average in WS and WP….
I don’t want to get into it now, but I have been working on my own metric for awhile and am almost finished with it. I really like what I have, and am going to start outsourcing my opinions to that metric. I haven’t looked at this season yet, but Mayo graded out as one of the worst players in 2011.
we don't have any backup PGs on the roster
Pek > "Demarcus Cousins"
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Feb 6, 2012 2:37 PM CST reply actions
Our starting and backup SGs %%%%%%.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 6, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
I see my failure.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
We should fix our whole wing situation with one trade
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=875zprz
Maybe Memphis is having contract hangover….only way this happens but….
Memphis: Beasley, Randolph, Webster, Ridnour, Johnson and maybe a pick
for
Minnesota: Gay, Mayo
then we’re good for the next three years with a bad ass starting 5 of: Pek/Love/Gay/Mayo/Rubio
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Again, Gay is the kind of ball hog player who will never help his team to win titles. The other obvious one is Melo. And then Beasly, although in this case coach can send him to the bench without being fired.
There are great players who will never take your team to titles.
Another example: Andre Miller is a great PG, but he can´t shoot the three and can´t provide good defense, and that´s why in so many seasons under his belt he has never taken his teams further than a first playoff round.
It´s been said many times, and now it´s in the standings: NY: .400; Memphis .480
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