Peksecuted
by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 7, 2012 10:04 PM CST
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I'm on sick kid patrol for the night so I have to keep it short. The 10/11 Wolves tried to make their way on the court to defeat the Peksecutioner and the Unicorn but they were turned away at the very last moment by an awful Syracuse player finally winning something for the good guys at 600 First Avenue. Thank you Donte Green! Thank you Sacramento for not realizing that DMC could take Pek off the dribble from 10-15 until about 3 minutes left in the game! Thank you kindly lion for making a 3 pointer from your cage!
Until later.
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SacTown blog is incredibly whiny.
It is awesome to read. Does anyone really feel like we got a ton of favorable calls today? Seemed pretty fair today.
Sacto had 26 fouls, Wolves 20
Pups had 28 FTA, Sacto had 21. Not anything egregious, but I can understand their frustration a wee bit. Probably expecting a win with Love out of the game out on suspension. The close ending probably didn’t help matters with their frustration level.
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by Skat the Rat on Feb 7, 2012 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
I guess I should try to understand
But really, we just dominated them in the post and they fouled on it, it wasn’t like we were getting away with a ton of charges or were hammering them a ton and not getting it called..
Yeah I think that's a good take
While we went to the FT line more, I don’t think the disparity was all that great where the general, unbiased consensus would say it was a one-sided foul game.
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by Skat the Rat on Feb 7, 2012 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
It's just how things are, fans are always whiny on fouls called against their team.
A void? I see no void!
Pek is like a bull in a china shop
Trust me, the more he has the ball in his hands on offense during his career, the more opposing fans will get frustrated and think everything is an offense foul (I see this with DMC and opposing team fans all the time).
by wallywagon11 on Feb 7, 2012 10:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Subjectively
I thought we definitely got the edge tonight. I thought a lot of calls against them were questionable, but I don’t remember more than maybe one questionable call against the Wolves.
You can't...dust...for vomit.
I would say the Wolves got the typical home-town
slight advantage in calls for this game, but the worst thing I read over at the Sac-Town blog was that they think Pekovic is just a flash in the pan. Most of them didn’t know anything about him. The more I see him, the more I love him. Once he gets down low with the ball, it is pretty likely he is going to score. He actually is nimble around the basket with real post moves—I mean ones that work, as opposed to Darko. Between him and Rubio, this team is really fun to watch.
by Imyourhuckleberry on Feb 8, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
"....as opposed to Darko"
Pretty popular saying these days.
by Rascal Flatts on Feb 8, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
just read their post
Not really bad at all. Just sounded like a frustrated franchise, but I wouldn’t say whiny, or anything even particularly negative.
by TO12 on Feb 8, 2012 12:51 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I remember just last year we spent a ton of time complaining about reffing
We’re definitely getting more respect this year
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 8, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
Nice Victory, maybe the most fulfilling cause of no Love
It shows this team does have legit talent behind love.
And I think its official. We found a legit center!
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Probably
Pek is not known for been inconsistent. He had struggled a bit in his first season in Partizan Belgrade and when he adjusted he became the most dominant center in Europe. And he maintained his level of play. He could have trouble with tall quick shot blockers on offense. If he sustain rebounding rate he ll be right there in Marc Gasol territory. Maybe he could surpass him in scoring. Scoring in low post is what Pek excels in. Rebounding and help defense was not strong part of his game. But he is hard working guy….
Pek
Pek. Pek. PEK. PEK!
You can't...dust...for vomit.
PEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKK!
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
Only trade purposes...
seem to explain why Beas was featured in the 4th over our budding all-star Pek.
OJ Mayo
It’s happening. I can feel it.
Mayo would destroy playing with Ricky Rubio
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
This needs to happen already!
I’ve decided Kahn is waiting for my birthday….3/1…what do you think?
by blingin_egyptian on Feb 7, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
Haha
I have a feeling OJ Mayo would effectively score 20 ppg playing alongside Rubio.
The guy has a very complimentary game to Rubio and Love
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Oj mayo
Ok, but not at that price. That is ridiculous.
by Dr. Wolfenstein on Feb 8, 2012 6:31 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well what price are you talking about?
I would say one of either Beasley or Ridnour would be fine or
Randolph/Miller/ Darko, Ellington and Memphis protected pick would be something I’d be interested in as well.
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
I'd give just Ridnour or Beas + Mem pick.
both would make me quite happy though Ridnour has been a great shooter this year I just think (mostly eye test, stats disagree) that Mayo is the better defender while being only minimally worse as a shooter.
While his overall FG% isn't outrageous, Ridnour has a pesky habit
of sometimes being the ONLY GUY on our team that can hit a bucket for half a quarter, it seems. Eye test here, also, but it seems like sometimes his stopping & popping keeps us afloat till the ship gets righted.
by dontbesomean youngfella on Feb 8, 2012 9:09 AM CST up reply actions
Truth
Rid is much better than what the eye test usually indicates. Sure, he sometimes misses 7 in a row, but you won’t be complaining when he hits 7 in a row the next game around
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 8, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
I don't understand NBA ways enough but,
i will draw parallel to Europe: Sometimes, when team is in control of the game, coaches are trying new things. Sort of using the game for practicing purposes. Experiment in vivo… Beas clearly changes his behavior on court. Could be the Adelman coaching him? I dunno, just guessing…
by anbeast on Feb 8, 2012 7:21 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah I think that's what's happening
Where are you coming from here? I assume somewhere in Europe?
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 8, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
I finally attended a win.
And I am already home. Both of these things make me happy.
A good team game tonight. Except for the free throw shooting I thought that most of the team stepped up and did enough of what they are able to do for us to win.
Ricky was great and Williams was pretty good. Beasly seemed up and down but I was happy with him overall. The highlight was watching Pek get into Cousins’ head.
For a Williams apologist
this was a semi-frustrating game for me.
Missing the free-throws is just tough to stomach…3/8 is bad and probably kept him off the floor…..he plays good basketball overall but until he gets his jumper/free-throws worked out he has a cap on how effective he can possibly be.
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
The caged lion showed good signs
deficiencies you’re pointing out are easy to overcome IMHO. He has good shooting stroke maybe he needs just to be more focused. Someone wrote that Cousins called him Mr. 1 for 2, and when DWill missed one of two, he yelled: ‘’I told ya’’. Maybe he has to gain confidence…
I agree
I am a supporter of Williams and do not want to trade him unless we get an offer that blows us away. I think the free throw % will come with him but it was a big problem last night. Especially for someone who’s strength at this point is getting to the line.
Wonder what Pek was calling Cousins...
by Timberwolf i.e. Albatross on Feb 8, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
"Lunch."
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Not a deep head.
And the security is lax.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 7:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That early shot by RR was probably the first end-game mistake I've seen from him this year
This whole game felt like last year…Can’t wait to get Love back.
Also, PEK.
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
When Sac tied it with 4 minutes left
it occurred to me how different this year is. Last year I would have known we were going to lose. Tonight I actually still thought we would win. Even without Love. Different culture.
Not sarcasm at all
Not really that downer of a post at all
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 7, 2012 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
We might have a case of the Team Playing at Sac's level
They are very unorganized on both ends of the court.
by Timberwolf i.e. Albatross on Feb 8, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
Congrats on the win guys.
I’m planning on making the trip up for the PHX game again this year. What’s the best way to get some cheap tickets?
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Against PHX
You could probably scalp your way into pretty good lower level seats for less than $40 I would think. You might have to be willing to be insulted by the scalpers and wait until a few minutes after the tip.
I just was at the Sac Tow game
row J 124 for 10 bucks. Go to a bad team during the week
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
I see 6 lower bowl corner tickets for $6 each.
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ya stubhub is the way to go
It’s worth the extra few bucks to get closer
Pek > "Demarcus Cousins"
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Feb 7, 2012 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
I got section 231, row S for less than $5
for Indiana last week on Stubhub. It is center court but way high up. You feel like your looking off a cliff at the game but for $4.65 per ticket it’s a good deal. Tickets were much higher for Houston last Saturday.
by Are we cursed? on Feb 8, 2012 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
Wow I was in row I for 15 bucks
Pek > "Demarcus Cousins"
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Feb 7, 2012 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
Haha
way to c block me RWT!!!!
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
The rest of the LB seats are baseline.
There are 2 different LB corner areas available.
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check the row
if there’s a five dollar difference b/t x and J it’s worth it
Pek > "Demarcus Cousins"
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Feb 7, 2012 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
Just bought the tickets. Row W unfortunately, but they were only $7. It goes up from there without the seats getting any better. I quit when I got to $15 and they were about the same seats.
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enjoy the game!
Pek > "Demarcus Cousins"
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Feb 7, 2012 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
Hopefully Steve plays more than 20 minutes and Love actually plays this time.
Last year was very disappointing.
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There were some sick nash passes though
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 7, 2012 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
Very true.
And J-Chill had that sick steal-to-posterizing dunk also, which was nice.
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you'll notice a difference there is a buzz this year
Pek > "Demarcus Cousins"
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Feb 7, 2012 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
That was also disappointing.
Neither team was playing for anything.
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I got my Season ticket renewal yesterday...
For a cool $340 I will have two seats on the aisle in second 209 Row K for the whole 2012-2013 season.
The Loyalty program they offered due to the lockout is paying back big.
by Timberwolf i.e. Albatross on Feb 8, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
Nice.
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
This...
was not supposed to go here…
by Timberwolf i.e. Albatross on Feb 8, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
It did seem
a little non sequitur-y.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Beasley was pretty bad.
Every time he would get the ball and everyone would clear out I would know it was not going in the hoop. And it never did.
7-21.
It is getting so when my eyes recognize that situation developing I start getting a sick feeling.
I think about 6 of those misses were from a couple layup sequences
Dudes got to go glass in close. He did rebound well though.
It seemed to me
that Beasley was doing exactly what he was being asked to do. All those other wolves players didn’t run to the other side of the court looking for a pass.
by SlowBreak on Feb 7, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree - if you ever watch the other 4 players on the court when Beas gets the ball
they almost always clear out. I’m thinking Adelman & Co. want him to chuck it up. Otherwise they’d rotate a man to his side for a kick out.
Hard to kick it out when there is no one to kick to – almost have to chuck it.
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by Skat the Rat on Feb 7, 2012 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
I had 0 issue with Beasley tonight
in fact I would have even given him like a B+ up until the last five minutes….he seemed to lose his composure a little in the end and took ill-advised shots….but I’d argue a large part of his offense was very much within the flow of what we were trying to do.
I think either he or Williams needs to be starting at SF….we are just too offensively challenged without them on the court.
Maybe neither is the small-forward of the future, but for the present there are the best options we have
as I am also thinking that unless we make a trade Martell should maybe just play the 2
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Now that I was paying more attention to his rebounding tonight,
I appreciated that about Beas, at least. He is disappointing/ frustrating enough that people around here start to act like he doesn’t belong in the league—it becomes infectious. In this particular game, I don’t know who’d have performed better (on our current squad) in his place.
by PDGirl on Feb 7, 2012 10:33 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
yea you all got it right
Wolver seems to have bitten by the “Beasley sucks” no matter what bug. His D was fine, he rebounded, and got (mostly) good shots. he just missed a whole lot.
When the offense called for it, he swung the ball and played his role. When RICKY or ADELMAN called for his ISO’s, he tried to go to work that route. He’s being a team player and doing what the team asks him to do, at least he did tonight. On the other hand…game would have been over if he could have been average offensively.
by SirLusciousLeftFoot on Feb 7, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed with both sentiments
Beasley had a bad shooting night — that’s it. Bad shooting night does NOT mean he took bad shots, it just means he missed the (generally good) shots he took. Nothing wrong with that. He was inspired on the boards and even altered a few shots on defense with his length.
by Timberwolf in LA on Feb 7, 2012 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
Beasley and Rubio
had a nifty play resulting in an open shot for Rubio. He missed it but still a nice play between them.
I remember that play.
it’s just a fact Beasley’s not use to not having the ball in his hands. He was the star at Kansas State so he got to see a ton of the ball and took a ton of shots. He’s a player who needs his touches…,To me he’s developing into a good player. He’s taking smarter shots and is learning how he can be effective in this league. There will be games like these where he goes 7-21 from the field. But yet then there will be games like the one against Houston where he goes off and we all think he’s the answer to the scoring off the bench problem. He needs time to grow and I think trading him would be a bad idea right now. Same with D Will.
by MychalShannon1 on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
At the beginning of the season there were times he wouldn't listen to Rubio, not set picks, and hog the ball
Now, he’s looking for Rubio more often.
by bluedevil_unicorno on Feb 8, 2012 1:01 AM CST up reply actions
That was a great play for Beas
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 8, 2012 1:32 AM CST up reply actions
I would say there is something wrong with that.
Beasley is supposed to be a good scorer. He is Durant’s contemporary. He was almost the first pick.
I see way too many nights where he is 3-18, 2-20, 4-19. He is almost as bad as Wes! Just a miserable basketball player. Like a big Jonny Flynn.
by wolver on Feb 8, 2012 12:04 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I just disagree with this
Beasley has some problems in his game for sure but he is not at the Wes/Flynn level. Wes might not even stay at that level if he keeps working on an all around game in small doses.
I see Beasley trying to find a new roll and working on it. It isn’t fair to just focus on his being a high draft pick. He isn’t Durant- we all get that. Who is. But he isn’t Jonny Flynn either.
by SlowBreak on Feb 8, 2012 8:05 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly. He did what was asked
I didn’t watch Beasley in college. He was 4? Beas must learn how to finish inside. He doesn’t look comfortable when he goes with his back to the rim. It’s crucial for him to become more effective and to really utilize his height and strength advantage.
By no means a pretty last three quarters
Minus the occasional few minute stretch. If we put forward a similar effort tomorrow night- We lose by 20. This is possibly a .500 Team with Kevin Love. I tend to think due to their road schedule the Rest of the Way they probably end up in the 30-32 Win range. Take Kevin Love away from this team they’re well under .500.
"Vote Ailuridae for Wolves GM"
Ain't no shame in being about a .500 team, IMO
we were god awful the last couple years and have to start somewhere. Obviously there were some absolutely brutal stretches tonight. We gutted it out without our best player and it looks like we may have a burgeoning 3rd good starter. No surprise that we positively need Love to be a reasonably good team, but encouraging that we could pull out an ugly win without him.
by PDGirl on Feb 7, 2012 10:28 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Is it fair to say
that this team isn’t as void of talent as it’s made out to be (at least on CH). We were coached by one of the worst coaches in the last 15 years, who completely had players out of position offensive and defensively, who ran an offense that was pretty brutal for the players he had to work with.
team is still insanely mismatched in terms of talent distribution….but I think it’s becoming fair to say there are some okay NBA basketball players
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Yeah, I would say so
It seems our vision was clouded by Rambis’s awfulness
That’s not to say there aren’t a ton of places to improve though
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 7, 2012 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
Nope
plenty of questionable draft picks have still been made etc. it’s not letting the whole company off the hook or anything….but yeah…I think there are some good basketball players and that is showing itself the longer this season plays on.
this game in particular proves that we are no longer a bottom feeder. We just beat a team who last year was considered our superior…and we beat them without our best player
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
nice to see pek dominating
I really cant see us starting darko anymore the rest of the year unless pek gets hurt
great win without kevin love though, the memphis game is going to be very tough.
Graduating from moral victories to ugly wins is something to be celebrated. This is a good step.
by CondorJon on Feb 7, 2012 10:21 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
As far as Tickets
I’ve always gone Stub-Hub. I’m sitting lower level for the Bobcats Game for $10.
"Vote Ailuridae for Wolves GM"
Seriously? That's awesome.
I’ll check that out.
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yep stubhub
Pek > "Demarcus Cousins"
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Feb 7, 2012 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
Corner sec 136 row W 4 tickets for $7.
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Man! Clippers tickets were $40 for nosebleeds!!
You are so lucky.
Is that with or without the delivery fee?
Or were they printable?
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
That was a fluky deal
"Vote Ailuridae for Wolves GM"
Sacramento won 3 straight coming into this
and we won without Love. I’ll take it, ugliness and all.
Pekovic was terrific
at both ends. Cousins was on fire coming into this game and did very little to help his team win.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
Our biggest need is a center
“Kevin Love is the only player to predate me”
“Who is that giant with the tattoo? Is he on our team? Really?”
(okay, I made that one up)
We're 2 Games from the 4th Seed in the Playoffs
Although I still think they fall short.
"Vote Ailuridae for Wolves GM"
We need another skull
named Cousins at the bottom of Pek’s tat.
Where there is a D-Williams, there is a way
by Flagrant on Feb 7, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
After Pek's domination
I can hear the lamentation of DMC’s women.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 10:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
After he drove his enemies before him
I've got good judgement from experience and experience from bad judgement.
I'll be pretty disappointed if I learn that Pek
doesn’t listen to death metal.
I'm not creative enough to have a signature.
by Skat the Rat on Feb 7, 2012 10:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He's probably
really into the Carpenters.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 10:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually,
this seems more his speed.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
Or maybe
this one?
I'm not creative enough to have a signature.
by Skat the Rat on Feb 7, 2012 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
Nice.
I like this one.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
Oofda - thats uber
We have a winner.
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by Skat the Rat on Feb 7, 2012 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
Does the NBA have any rules prohibiting
playing in corpsepaint?
by John Doe on Feb 7, 2012 11:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey,
if John Randle can do it, why not Pek? This could be Pek’s game face:
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
It doesn't have the same effect when the bright lights are on
Just ask Marilyn Manson. At minimum though, a bit of eye liner would set the tone.
Reason is the first victim of strong emotion.
For context
the curious should read this. Bathory is not a random name pulled out of a hat, not in that corner of the world.
Yo ho ho and a FirstRow stream!
Like the "extreme guys" from Harold and Kumar go to White Castle
When Harold and Kumar stole their ride and all they could find was emotional, sensitive music.
I've got good judgement from experience and experience from bad judgement.
I've parked Pek's car before
He had on Montenegran music near as I can tell. Think Anthony Bourdain in Croatia at some dive club with Samir.
by Dr. Wolfenstein on Feb 8, 2012 6:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yep. Unfortunatelly Pek's musical taste is not something to wrote home about :-)))
He listen to new Serbian folk music (turbo – folk). It is, unlike real folk music, music of lowest quality.
"Turbo folk"? I'm cool with that.
Anyone listening to anything a little different gets points from me.
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
Compared with what, though?
The guy could be listening to pop radio stations here. It can’t possibly be worse.
But yeah, I’d like to imagine him going home to sing real, original folk music, accompanied by a guitar made from cuirasses worn by his enemies.
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
Yes it can be posible :-)
You know how pop is awful, than imagine cheap copy of that pop mixed with oriental sounds. (Why it is called folk i don’t know, because folk is only distant (very distant) echo in that music. I lack the words to describe it to you. But believe me – it is awful!
Please post a band name or two
If it’s online, I can “borrow” a copy. When you say “oriental,” I’d love to know if you mean that in the ‘50s exotica sense (think soundtrack to The Third Man), Turkish or actual Asian influence. (Yes, I’m desperately hoping that this turns out to be some sort of ultra avant hipster stuff because I so want Pek to be cool on every level.)
Yo ho ho and a FirstRow stream!
Mostly Turkish influences...
I have warned you. I’m embarrassed to post this :-)
Here are the examples: (maybe it is not ‘’the best of’’ since I’m not in to that music. Maybe I didn’t found those with Turkish influences but that IS Turbo folk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9kSjTN3yCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aulqQGAnuhs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIWZ2AYX9pQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOdLVJ3QjAs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bZoZhB7EhY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdqExYjoCoI&feature=related
Pek is cool in every other aspect but this one is exuded :-)
by anbeast on Feb 8, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This stuff is awesome
I feel I understand Pek more now. :-)
Ah, the timeless themes of shaky pop music videos:
Limousines with crowds of scantily clad girls standing in the skylight.
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
It would be kind of awesome
if they let Pek pick the warm-up music at Target Center (although I’ve noticed far fewer games this year with player-selected warm-up music).
OK, I get the picture
Pek likes to do E in the offseason and dance all night. Not my thing and I wouldn’t want to swap iPods with him but hey, it’s his life.
Yo ho ho and a FirstRow stream!
And thanks for the links
I share your distaste but I’m pretty tolerant of what others listen to so long as they don’t take time out during concerts to diss the Dixie Chicks.
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"The Third Man"? That's Zither music.
I guess you could call that “oriental,” though to me, especially in that movie, it’s sort of…. Hungarian?
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
I'd like to think
that Pek gets the humor in Gogol Bordello.
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
You would hope
but otoh, to your average eastern european I have to suspect that Gogol Bordello comes across like a heavy metal accordion band would to a U.S. Nashville style country western fan, i.e., more camp than awe.
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Crazyness. I am super jealous of you
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 8, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
Some interesting rotations (strange?)
Random thoughts
-Brad Miller is either playing with the advanced playbook, or simply has no timing since he got back. Horrible turnovers surround him.
-What happened to Ellington & AR?
-Tolliver is ice cold right now.
-Heard Darko sprained his ankle yesterday. Pek must have scared him off the court.
Re Webster/AR/Wayne
Zgoda tweeted that RA kept an extra short rotation to ensure a win without Love or something….seems a little odd to be because of the lack of appreciable talent/ability differential bw those 3 and some who played a ton (particularly when, say, Luke has a shit night like tonight), but that’s what he said.
by PDGirl on Feb 7, 2012 10:37 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I saw that tweet, and I agree with you.
When Tolliver is looking terrible, like he was for awhile tonight, ARandolph has to be a step up, right?
that is a bizarre philosophy
Rick Adlemn is helping us win basketball games so I won’t complain too much…
but gosh….his rotations are inexplicable and maddening.
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Makes sense to me
every substitution potentially disrupts your offense and defense. Shorter rotation lets players get their groove on. Games like tonight’s help you to see that we’ve got a lot of players who can step up when they get the minutes.
You have to be really good to bring it reliably when you’re only in for a short while.
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Yeah, I don't get some of Adelman's rotations.
When he had in Tolliver-Beasley-Barea-Ridnour-Miller late in the 4th, I was very worried.
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Me too
Barea and Ridnour don’t seem to blend well. They take the ball and dribble around looking for their own shot. Very similar kind of games. Bad combo in my book.
He wants good FT shooters out there I think
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 7, 2012 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
Webster not playing is beyond explanation at this point
he’s very likely both the best 2 and 3 on the team
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
I forgot about Webster not playing
These guys must not be bringing it in practice or something.
that would be absolutely the only argument I buy
Is if Wes is the reincarnation of Rasho and some practice all-star
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
I do think Wes plays his role
If he made a few more shots (even 1 or 2 per) he’s a decent rotation player.
I would say
he’s becoming a solid rotation player…he’s not there yet but he is showing signs of being a contributing player
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Wes didn't have a great box score,
but I can tell you that he abolutely had a positive impact on the game by impacting several shots by opponents and helping to get the team off to a great start. The energy of the starting 5 was fantastic in the 1st quarter. He also made the Sportscenter play of the night with his put back dunk. Regretfully, his missed dunk probably would have been an even better highlight if he could have brought it home.
by Imyourhuckleberry on Feb 8, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
He was riding the bike in the 3rd quarter and I thought he was gonna get some burn
but I guess Adelman changed his mind
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I have high hopes for Webster...
but he has been terrible thus far. In the context of Adelman “shortening rotations to win”, not playing Web makes a lot of sense. We should keep feeding him minutes when we can, because I have little doubt he will return to being an average player, but we don’t want to throw away a shot at a W just to nurture him back from injury.
by vjl110 on Feb 8, 2012 7:48 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This is my feeling too
but I can’t help but be disappointed because I want to see more of the FroHawk.
"FroHawk"
did you make that up?
by dontbesomean youngfella on Feb 8, 2012 9:14 AM CST up reply actions
Awesome quote by Ricky
as tweeted by Zgoda:
JerryZgoda Jerry Zgoda
Ricky on Pek’s open-court steal and ball handling: “Maybe he can play as a point guard and I start playing as center.”
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 10:38 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
What's better:
His assists or his quotes?
I'm not creative enough to have a signature.
by Skat the Rat on Feb 7, 2012 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
I think I like the winning basketball more than the cute quotes
but I’m glad I don’t have to decide. =)
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If we only had reliable shooters
other than Pek, of course. 20 assists/game.
He's Ricky Rubio. He’s not like anyone else.
Williams hit the corner three tonight. I can't be mad at him on that one.
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hopefully this starts a trend
of not missing 14 consecutive three pointers
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Now you know how Steve Nash feels.
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He leads the ligue
in quotes while is only third in assists.
He also leads in ‘spaniards awake’ and steals.
I didn't mean it, i was forced by the little people living within my head.
by Joe Kozinski on Feb 7, 2012 11:23 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Rubio might singlehandedly destroy the Spanish economy
because he’s making all the Spaniards stay awake all night to watch his games and productivity will fall off a cliff.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
Don't worry
productivity was at the bottom of the cliff before the crisis.
I didn't mean it, i was forced by the little people living within my head.
by Joe Kozinski on Feb 7, 2012 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
Ha!
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
Indeed
Our NBA players are 23% of spanish GDP.
I didn't mean it, i was forced by the little people living within my head.
by Joe Kozinski on Feb 7, 2012 11:49 PM CST up reply actions
Joe Kozinski
does not sound very Spanish. In fact if I had to think of the least Spanish-sounding name I could it would be Joe Kozinski.
I think he said once he chose Kozinski coz he likes Polish names or something
Damn, and now you made me look like a stalker & CH junkie :)
by bluedevil_unicorno on Feb 8, 2012 12:16 AM CST up reply actions
I almost made the same reply.
Memory is a good thing, right?
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
The best (or most useful) definition of intelligence I know is:
Memory + ability to connect data + ability to summarize.
What does the Reference Librarian tattoo look like?
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
I like
I didn't mean it, i was forced by the little people living within my head.
?????
You should inform before saying stupid things
Maybe he meant
23% of the part of the Spanish economy not wholly owned by Germany?
That, I think, might be accurate.
%
Yo ho ho and a FirstRow stream!
Ha,ha...Spaniards as productivity giants
right there with other productivity giants: Italians, Greeks, almost all Balkanians (Serbs, Croats, Montenegrin, Bosnians, Macedonians, Bulgars. Slovenians – excluded.)
"What's better: His assists or his quotes?"
His defense.
To go from years of watching jaw-droppingly awful perimeter defenders to Ricky is almost unreal.
We've come a long, long way since Troy Hudson.
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
That play was awesome
I think it went like this…
Tip/steal. Push guy out of way. Run like hell. Grab ball. Slam in hole.
I don't know how it didn't make SportCenter.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
My favorite play of the night..
…was on the Kings’ 2nd to last possession. They had an in bounds right in front of the Wolves’ bench. Ricky was guarding the in bounds and he turned his back to the in bounder. He jumped up and down facing away from the guy and then quickly turned around at the last second and almost stole the inbounds. It was just a crafty ass little play that, I think, sums up everything about the guy. It looked kind of gimmicky and flashy but it served a fairly awesome purpose. He almost got his mits on the inbounds.
Think he takes the steals title?
The guy could win the assist and steals title and not win ROY. Crazy.
As much as I watched him the last 2 years
I’ve been completely gobsmacked by how good he is defensively.
I've changed my sig. The Wolves are now like a reasonably decent meal.
by Eric in Madison on Feb 7, 2012 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
He was a ball hawk in Spain..
But the popular opinion (mine included) was that his steals would go down because the rule changes. Turns out, he’s hardly ever in foul trouble and still picking players pockets. I really hope that he progresses like a regular rookie (and not a 6 year vet) because then the idea of saving the DP tag for him might be less crazy then originally thought. Still think they should have given it to Love though.
Yeah, he did some things defensively in Spain
but given the rules, and the quality of guards in the NBA, I had no idea that he would be as good as he has been. He just dominates at that end with some frequency.
I've changed my sig. The Wolves are now like a reasonably decent meal.
by Eric in Madison on Feb 7, 2012 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
It is funny,
that Kyrie could beat Rubio because he is a flashy scorer, even though he is a worse PG in every other way. The same way that Griffin beat Love into the All-Star game because he is a flashy dunker, even though he is a worse forward in every other way.
I don't think it's the same.
Love is clearly better than Griffin. Rubio vs. Irving is reallllly close.
But,
category by category, it’s true. Irving is only better than Rubio in scoring, and part of that is because Ricky doesn’t care about scoring.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
Irving is real close to a
50-40-90 season though. For a rookie thats not shabby. Both guys will be top 5 PG’s in the NBA for a long time.
by Bad News Wolves on Feb 8, 2012 12:26 AM CST up reply actions
I think it's awesome that they're in different conferences.
This could lead to great ASG and Finals matchups. (Yeah, I’m dreaming a bit. Shut up.)
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 12:30 AM CST up reply actions
Sorry but no. Ricky is a lot worse shooter and scorer than Irving. Let's not get hysterical just coz we're fans
I’ve watched that kid from front row when he played at Duke, and I should know it. He is a special player, just like Ricky is, but in a different way. Right now, I’d say:
Kyrie: better shooter, scorer, clutch player, faster
Ricky: better court vision, passer, defender*
*As of defense, before Kyrie got injured he was one of the best defenders at Duke, which is remarkable by itself. He singlehandedly shut down K-State and Mich-State, which were at that time considered to have the best back court in the nation. So, I’d wait till he gets his legs back and better conditioned before making final judgment.
by bluedevil_unicorno on Feb 8, 2012 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
Irving as a better clutch player than Ricky?
Aside from the fact that “clutch” is a nonsense concept, Rubio’s production in the fourth quarter is elite. Not just among rookies, but among all NBA players. Irving’s a good scorer. He scores better than Ricky, but that’s it.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 12:37 AM CST up reply actions
Just like Ricky he produces in the 4th quarters. He made at least 2 last second
shots to win the game already. In many games, when Cavs are down late in 4th and nobody is scoring, they give the ball to him and he delivers. I think that qualifies as clutch
by bluedevil_unicorno on Feb 8, 2012 12:40 AM CST up reply actions
To add, Ricky is undoubtedly the better passer but would he be as productive in Cleveland, passing to Malcolm Lee, Anthony Parker, Jamison, and Omri Casspi?
Now those are some wings much worse than ours. It’s just like having 4 Wes’s with you all the time. Imagine that! Would Kyrie be effective in our team? Likely. Would Ricky be effective in Cleveland? Less likely.
-Ricky can thread a needle and find a way to pass to a teammate, like Nash, but with a little less shooting ability
-Kyrie is more well-rounded and can score in addition to pass, like Rose, but with a little less freakish athleticism.
by bluedevil_unicorno on Feb 8, 2012 12:54 AM CST up reply actions
See, I see Ricky as more well-rounded.
Better passer and better defender trumps better scorer when you’re talking about the position that focuses on distributing more than scoring.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 12:58 AM CST up reply actions
Well, when you can't shoot well and drive to the basket, that's not really what I'd call well rounded.
Right now, Kyrie is being asked to score because he’s their primary threat and their wings can’t shoot open J’s, like some (not all) in our team, and can’t even finish at the rim. Had he had better scorers, he’d look to pass to them and his assists would be higher. Not as high as Ricky’s, probably, but really close and comparable.
by bluedevil_unicorno on Feb 8, 2012 1:10 AM CST up reply actions
Ricky's shooting is certainly an open question
but he can drive. You have to have seen that. If there’s an open lane, Ricky takes it, and he usually makes the shot.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 1:14 AM CST up reply actions
Some rationalizations happening here for you.
First we have Irving being a better scorer and a better shooter, too. Uh, I guess that counts as more than one area where he’s superior….
Then you have the “But if they were on different teams, would so-and-so get as many dimes?” thing. Which I think Wolves fans will easily recognize from the Randy-Foye-would-be-a-ROY-candidate-if-he-was-in-Portland epoch. Irving would be as good here, Ricky would be worse there? That’s just plain tortuous rationalization.
No doubt they’re both fine players.
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
by feral on Feb 8, 2012 4:13 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Rubio is an elite passer
regardless of what team he plays for. Wes Johnson is undoubtedly worse than most of those guys. Steve Nash has seen a huge overall in their roster over the years yet he’s still averaging 10 assists per game.
Elite passers are going to get their assists regardless of who is on their team.
Rubio is the more well rounded player, there is no question about that. Kyrie is a very talented scorer but Rubio is better at everything else and in some ways significantly so.
by Zeitgeister on Feb 8, 2012 7:19 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm not so sure where you're getting the flashy part, as he doesn't dunk
nor makes lots of breakaway runs nor fancy passes. Ricky is much flashier than Kyrie. In fact it’s more of an excuse that can come out of Cavs fans, if Ricky wins ROY that Ricky won because of his flashiness.
by bluedevil_unicorno on Feb 8, 2012 12:36 AM CST up reply actions
As much as I rave about Pek,
Ricky really makes me swoon. That kid is better than anyone predicted. He’s tougher than anyone thought, and he’s probably always the smartest player on the court.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
No doubt
He’s like Wayne Gretzky, he sees all the angles.
His rebounds are amazing. He gets the ones no one else is near. Like he calculated how far off the shot is and goes to the spot before it hits the rim.
by Rodman99 on Feb 7, 2012 10:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Kevin Love-like instincts
In a 6’4 PG
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 7, 2012 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
Outlet position off rebounds
Doesn’t he seem to magically appear right next to the rebounder (every time he doesn’t get the board himself)? I swear he’ll be on the opposite side of the court and it’s almost like magic or teleportation, because all of a sudden he’s right next to our big in perfect position to be handed the ball.
Don Godofredo Montego de Montevideo
I saw that too.
When he was facing away, he kept his hands clasped behind his back and looked like he was setting a pick. Then he just unfurled those gumby arms and jumped at the inbounder.
I'm really disapointed in the SportsCenter play choices
the only Pek play was a baseline hook… If nothing else his pivot→jam around the double team should be there as well as his slam running the floor and his steal →fingerroll.
The mouse loves LeBron James and no one else
Except Tom Brady.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
Does that book mention the child-sex rings Disney runs and organizes with the help of Henry Kissinger?
(looks around)
What? I read it on the internet.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Feb 8, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
That would be funnier
if there hadn’t actually been a child sex ring in DC in the ‘80s run by former spooks trying to entrap former diplomats. And yes, Henry Kissinger probably did know about it which is why they immediately started up the outrageous stories about Disney’s involvement.
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correction
not “former” diplomats.
Also, it’s good to note that when powerful people do bad things and it leaks out, almost always the first thing they’ll do is to spread wild rumors about the bad thing that make it seem incredible and probably made up. That’s why they dragged Walt Disney into this story — to give themselves plausible deniability.
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I knew I put up the TMiss signal with that one.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Feb 8, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
There's conspiracy shit
and then there’s the shit they don’t report. This is the latter and I don’t think about abducted children being forced into prostitution as especially hilarious.
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Definitely a foul by Pek, weird to see him getting calls now
But I like it
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 7, 2012 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure how he turned that corner so quickly,
from refs punching bag to respected player, but I like it.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe it was just rookie hazing, who knows
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 7, 2012 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
I think you're right.
Plus Rubio helps him, too.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 12:16 AM CST up reply actions
And this was supposed to be a reply to the Ricky quote.
Newbie reply fail.
So when do we look at trading Love?
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
In about 3 years :(
600 N First Ave "like a Pirate's cove".
by Airete on Feb 7, 2012 10:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No way man!
He’s staying. We’re winning basketball games, we’re gonna trade for Mayo (:-p), we can still offer love the max contract.
Love’s sticking around. gotta good feeling, and I also have a good feeling we’re making the playoffs
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
hahahaha
haha ha
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 7, 2012 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
Cousins got his azz handed to him
He was left grumbling and flaying. While the Wes Johnson draft has been discussed ad nauseam, the fact is that Kahn-Rambis are the ones who brought Pek to the Wolves when they did. I’ll take Pek over DMC any day.
Where there is a D-Williams, there is a way
by Flagrant on Feb 7, 2012 10:42 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Love how Cousins went from cool and confident to big baby
In the span of 3 fouls.
Exactly.
Pek outplayed him and got into his head. You could tell Cousins was flummoxed the whole game because of it. Great to see.
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Pek will get into a lot of young players heads
even in college players don’t play like that, let alone the NBA where everyone expects to get a foul call.
by wallywagon11 on Feb 7, 2012 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
There aren't that many guys that huge in the world
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 7, 2012 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
To be that tall and that strong
Is a very rare thing indeed.
Gary, you didn't kill your brother. Those gorillas did.
it's like if Dejuan Blair played overseas for 5 years and then Shredder hired him as part of his Footclan and turned him into a mutant with that ooze stuff
(okay that was a bit of a stretch but the 10 year old in me approves)
by wallywagon11 on Feb 7, 2012 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
I'll agree with you when
Pek gets his first coach fired
Three years and counting...
by HowManyFoulsOnShaq? on Feb 7, 2012 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
Don't pretend you wouldn't be happy as heck if Pek were able to get Rambis fired a year earlier
by wallywagon11 on Feb 7, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ooooooh.
That would be nice. But it would be better if Pek squashed Rambis into a peanut butter jar and punted him into the sun.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 11:15 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Keep him away from the Suns.
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Ha!
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
Why they didn't run that strategy into the dirt is beyond me.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
As a Kings fan
I like Pek and all but pretty sure I am okay with the Kings having DMC instead.
by wallywagon11 on Feb 7, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah,
Cousins is a nice player. I don’t like his attitude, but he’s talented as anyone.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
He is however
more talented than the zombie (Wes Johnson)
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
The Kings are a strange team
They have all of this unbelievable talent. But it doesn’t really fit together.
I like the Kings
There have great fans and their marketing team is solid too. They always have good videos on You Tube.
Where there is a D-Williams, there is a way
I'll agree with you
when Pek gets his first coach fired
Three years and counting...
by HowManyFoulsOnShaq? on Feb 7, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
It wasn't a choice between them, of course.
Wes Johnson, anyone? He always looks nice in that one highlight per night. Or two, last night. Those are the good games.
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
It isn't a choice between Pekovic and Cousins.
We chose Wes Johnson. That was the decision.
Kahn signed Pekovic. McHale drafted him.
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
Thank God for Pekovic
Think about all the years this franchise has failed to find a good player deep in the draft (not to mention all of the lotto busts). FINALLY! His emergence has been just a huge development for this team.
A good argument could be made,
that they did find plenty of talent, but they didn’t have the coaching team to unlock it. Know what I mean?
I don't put a lot of credence in coaches unlocking talent, at least not to this degree
I definitely get what you mean in terms of maximizing strengths/hiding weaknesses. But at the end of the day Wes is still Wes, Beasley is still Beasley, AR is still AR, Tolliver is still Tolliver, Ridnour is still Ridnour, and Love is still Love (but with higher usage and more minutes). So I give Pekovic 95% of the credit for his improvement.
by Rascal Flatts on Feb 8, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
all the experts say it's a coaches league
It’s less about development, and more about putting players in a position to succeed. Gotta think a ton of this is coaching, from top to bottom.
by TO12 on Feb 8, 2012 11:50 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Oh, I think the defense
is definitely impacted by coaching, no question. But things like rebounding, drawing contact, footwork, jump shooting….A head coach can’t coax someone to get better at that stuff in-season, at least not at this level.
by Rascal Flatts on Feb 8, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
probably all those things coaches help with
Except maybe jump shooting in the middle of the season.
I guess we agree to disagree.
by TO12 on Feb 8, 2012 12:54 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
(What experts wouldn't agree to "the NBA is a players' league?)
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
yes I think this is true
I’ve not seen one expert say anything about it being a coaches league. I’ve read research about how defensive results tend to track to coaches rather than players but nothing about the offensive skills.
I said this to my buddy the other day
If only KG had had Pek next to him. Can you say domination?
by Dr. Wolfenstein on Feb 8, 2012 6:41 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I considered going to tonight's game.
I wish I had. But I’d probably have had a stroke and I’d still be lying on the floor in Target Center.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
I know a lot of people really like Tolliver
but he has been pretty ineffective recently.
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
I love him.
And I think he needs to ride the pine until his shot is fixed. There are too many talented bigs on this team, even with Love out, to find minutes for a guy who brings nothing to the offensive end.
Like someone said in the game thread said:
Less tweeting about Jesus, more time working on your shot.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
I also don't know how much he brings on the defensive end either
I realize I’m a Beasley/Williams apologist….but I don’t know that there is a substantial difference between the three players defensively. I’d imagine Tolly is the better defensively player…but he hasn’t been standing out there either lately
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
I think they said he's had a wrist injury
that he played through because we needed bodies. So maybe he’ll start looking better soon.
"And I think he needs to ride the pine until his shot is fixed."
That might be forever. He’s a career 42% shooter and looking at his career, last year looks like an outlier to me.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/tollian01.html
Not just ineffective.
He had the rep of the mature vet we thought we needed, solid, steady, but not only is his shot busted, he is making dumb mistakes too. Lots of errors. Last year when he had the ball, it seemed like he was the only guy who you could count on to not kick it out of bounds. This year, he’s right up there with the most likely guy to hand the other team a possession.
Liked the win, still take issue with the rotations.
Credit to Adelman, they’re improving gradually. Ricky is starting alongside Luke, that’s good. Darko’s minutes have been steadily dropping in favor of Pek, that’s good. The next step is to replace all of Barea and Brad Miller’s minutes with Webster and AR.
Barea is fun to watch when he’s good, but his average performance places him squarely as our third-best PG. We can’t get away with playing 90 minutes worth of PGs in a game against a good team. Webster, miniscule 90 minute sample size of this season notwithstanding, is out best true wing and it’s not really close. The future of the Wolves features someone like him, not crunch time lineups featuring Ricky, Luke, and JJ.
As for Brad Miller, he’s beyond done. He can’t do anything. If Anthony Randolph is is 60/40 brilliant/boneheaded, the aggregate, as his stats have shown year after year, is an average-or-better big man. In what world is that not preferable to a consistently horrid 35 year old with no future with the team? It’s just bizarre that an extremely streaky Barea is a core member of the rotation as a 3rd PG, but the same streakiness in a superior player who can play a position of greater need in AR results in him not even making the 12 man active roster most nights.
Something has quietly happened with Randolph.
When he was asked about filling in for Love last night, Adelman listed Derrick and “AT” among his options, though Tolliver has struggled. He didn’t even have Randolph on his list.
There’s some back story, here.
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
I noticed that too.
Is there a trade brewing? Randolph, Webster, Wayne? It’s hard to figure why none of them got any time at all last night. You’d think they’d all get some run, at least to see if someone was hot.
Rubio to Pek fastbreak, no. 8 on top 10, wes saving the alley oop no.1 on SC top 10
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
That was a hell of a play
Reminded me of Globetrotters trick on that clean-up oop.
NBA TV mentioned that no one wants to get in Pek’s way with his fast break slam.
Where there is a D-Williams, there is a way
I also love Rick Adelman.
Watch his postgame comments here.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
On Greend's last shot
“I didn’t even look at the shot. I didn’t want and I was standing right next to him.”
Classic.
It was a sickening feeling when that shot went up.
I was scared when that shot was put up
Yelled please miss!!!
by RaysOfHope on Feb 7, 2012 11:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not a good feeling
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 7, 2012 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I was ready to stroke out if that went in.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
I originally read "stroke one out"
Needless to say I was….. confused.
by Doctor_Teh on Feb 7, 2012 11:22 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Ha ha I did too. Was thinking...
That’s one way to consol yourself.
That comment would never follow "Not a good feeling."
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
Was at the game
I just knew we would pull out, good game by DWill and I loved that huge 3!!
by RaysOfHope on Feb 7, 2012 11:09 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I was issued a warning at Sactown Royalty.
I think it was because someone posted that Cousins was better than Pek and I posted “The scoreboard begs to differ.” Not only are they a bunch of whiners over there—apparently they’re prone to getting easily butthurt as well.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
defend your man's honor
I got your back….behind Pek
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
It said something about if I was there to troll I'd be shown the door quickly.
I don’t remember the exact wording, but it seemed completely out of proportion to my comment.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
Sometimes a warning is just a warning and nothing more
as in, hey if you are coming in to only troll you might get banned.
And why mention it here without the context? That doesn’t exactly help your cause.
by wallywagon11 on Feb 7, 2012 11:17 PM CST up reply actions
But I gave all of the context.
I posted the comment about the scoreboard and got a warning. What the hell?
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
ease up
you were just warned to not troll, not that big a deal
by wallywagon11 on Feb 7, 2012 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
That warning may as well have popped up
the second I joined the board, then. It was an innocuous comment. For as much silly shit as I saw posted on that site tonight, the notion that my post made me some kind of troll danger is ridiculous.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 11:22 PM CST up reply actions
you don't help your case complaining on another site and not just letting the mod you weren't going in to troll
but rock on
by wallywagon11 on Feb 7, 2012 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
*not just letting the mod know you weren't
sorry
by wallywagon11 on Feb 7, 2012 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
Who the hell is Wallywagon11?
If he is a Wolves fan he is doing a great impression of Rambis defending an opposing Bynum as he smashes down our boy Beasley.
He's alright.
He’s a Kings fan from Sactown Royalty. He’s actually one of the coherent ones. A lot of the others are like rhesus monkeys flinging feces at each other.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
Sactown Royalty is lucky
To have this Wally dude and Ziller.
The rest of that lot would make Rube Chat look like a high society forum
Don Godofredo Montego de Montevideo
by godofredo on Feb 8, 2012 1:10 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yep.
Wally’s good, and so are a few others, but we saw some of the quality when that CousinsEvansDuo or whatever his name is came over here (I’m sure that he’s the one Tim banned).
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 1:13 AM CST up reply actions
I wish I knew, MAYN.
How you been, big guy?
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 2:31 AM CST up reply actions
Good to hear.
Miss your voice around here, but you have to keep busy when busy is profitable.
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 2:34 AM CST up reply actions
Have Sacto posters become more fatalistic,
what with the sword hanging over the franchise?
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
Seems like a lot of teenages showed up recently
Plus, a lot of the frustration with the team and the owners came to a boiling point early on when we didn’t sign anyone when they said for years this was the offseason they would, they kept the same coach, and they went down the tube early on playing awful. After that whole entire mess, I think for a lot of the new people they they came in thinking all of that frustration and anger was almost normal.
So early on when people were so frustrated and saying “Fire Westphal” and “I can’t believe we moved down in the draft to trade for Salmons” i was kind of understandable because it sucked. But then changes were made.
Anywho, usually at the start of every season a lot of teenagers show up and a lot of the frustration was being expressed by them and they also saw a lot of the regulars cursing. And the rules have been so lax for so long that I think a lot of regulars like myself got into a habit where we don’t flag stuff when we probably should.
Anywho, it just ended up creating a really weird Game Thread environment. It just kept on going and going even after firing Westphal. Every game the Kings lose is treated like the end of the world and everyone needs to be fired immediately. The norms have changed and it’s also gotten a lot more masognistic even.
That being said, this is just mainly the game threads and the post game threads though. For the most part the other threads and the posts are relatively normal.
Jimmer will save us all.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Feb 9, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
Were you over there Pektrolling
On Pektroll?
I literally made two comments on their board today.
The second is the one I cited above. The first was when I posted, “That’s hysterical” in response to a picture.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
Just teasing
People need to lighten up.
And I sure you could only handle so many Pek insults before it a jab is coming out.
I would take Pek over Cousins any day. He’s so much more level headed. And steel bodied.
Oh, I didn't think you were jabbing at me.
And I agree with you—people need to lighten up.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
I meant them lighten up... not you.
But I think you know that.
I love how Pek has gotten his fouls more under control
He is turning into a great player
by RaysOfHope on Feb 7, 2012 11:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
One of their people was over here trolling earlier and I banned him
I’m guessing because of that, there is a little more sensitivity than normal regarding each other’s fans.
Follow me on Twitter @timallenonline
What does banning entail?
Are they blocked from posting?
And how have I not been banned yet?
is what I really want to know
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
by VoodooMagic on Feb 7, 2012 11:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If it makes you feel better,
I’ve thought about it on a couple of occasions. =)
Follow me on Twitter @timallenonline
I would just get a new ID
I’ve been looking for an excuse to rock “FelipeLopezForever” for awhile now :-p
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Felipe Lopez changed my life
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
the least I could do
would be to honor him with an ID after Voodoo Magic is banned for being a douche
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Your account is deleted and you're prevented from posting on that particular site.
Have their been instances of SBN-wide banning Tim?
Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!
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that's actually been a big bonus that they finally started doing that more
can think of one person in particular who went by many names even here
by wallywagon11 on Feb 7, 2012 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
Figured.
I remember that Jeremy or Jeffrey Thompson guy kept trolling around and getting banned from everywhere. I wonder if he finally got the nuke.
Also, the one known as Revenge4Favre was one such person I believe.
Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!
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This comment about trolling reminded me of something
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvPBBm8zoFc
Apart from some obscure associations, the music is awesome and the Wolves look good
To be fair
DMC still has a higher ceiling. DMC is only 22, Pek is 25 or 26 and has had years on experience in Europe
But I wouldn’t trade him for DMC just because I don’t think DMC is that good of a teammate
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 7, 2012 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
He has a higher ceiling and a deeper basement
by Rodman99 on Feb 7, 2012 11:22 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Good way to put it
Never heard the basement half….I’ll have to remember that
If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm
by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 7, 2012 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
BaZING!
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
Lol.
To be fair…
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Feb 9, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
Could DWill start at SF?
I liked what I saw from him tonight, he saved the game at the end
by RaysOfHope on Feb 7, 2012 11:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I think in the future he can
and I actually think he’s probably currently the best option on the roster for SF….He’s probably gonna need to drop 10 pounds, but he’s got a fast first step and can get to the line like no one’s business….but until he fixes the jumpers/free-throws there is a very small cap on how good and what position he actually can play.
He’s a smart basketball player and has a lot of ability….so even if he isn’t the perfect specimen at the SF spot I would not be surprised if he can effectively play the position with some practice
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
I think he is going to have his rookie moments, but I think he could develop into a really good player
He really should be starting over Wes. I would love to see a Rubio,Batum,DWill,Love and Pek starting 5
by RaysOfHope on Feb 7, 2012 11:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Batum at the 2?
is that something he could do?
I know so little about Batum outside of what I can find on BR….if he can play 2 I’m all for it…he might be the kinda guy that makes starting Williams at the 3 possible
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
I really like Batum's defense
Sonething we are really lacking with Ridnour
by RaysOfHope on Feb 7, 2012 11:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
well Ridnour needs to not play SG anymore
anything to make that happen on the regular is fine with me
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
or Rubio,Mayo, Batum,Love and Pek
i still have doubts on batum at 2, sure he can play there but 30min ?
I would love to have that lineup. There are a few other 2s we could squeeze in there and still make me happy
but that seems to be available.
you've been saying that all year
But it doesn’t make it true
by TO12 on Feb 8, 2012 7:37 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions 5 recs
It also doesn't make it not true
My problem with the newest catch-phrase about a Wolves player being “Derrick Williams can’t play 3” is that there is relatively no evidence to support this. The strongest indicator is the fact that in training camp Adleman said he wanted to start Williams out focusing solely on the 4 to catch him up to speed with the NBA game.
He’s looked fine when he’s had to play there though. He’s very comfortable (and I’d argue any day that he is more comfortable) on the wing offensively and he has both at times looked bad and fine defensively on the wing.
There was a play that stood out to me when he got switched out to Marcus Thornton and forced him to take a bad shot. I realize it’s one play out of many that he has played defensively on the wing…but he isn’t incompetent out there and with both practice and work (i.e. lose 7-12 pounds) he could be good enough to not be a problem.
This coming off-season will be a big one for Thrill. He can go either way, he can lose 10 pounds and play the 3 or he can gain 8 pounds and be a 4….He’s got some baby fat to lose and he already has some nice agility to him he could be a very good three.
Weight Loss is also something that happens every day to normal people in the world so it’s not like it’s some “pie in the sky” take I’m trying to cultivate, Williams has 10 pounds to lose easily to get him the Danny Granger 230 class.
lastly. Even if he right now is not a true three….you mean to tell me you don’t think he could play three more effectively or consistently than Wes Johnson? I think we probably have 2 more wins if we had given all of Wes’ 3 minutes to Williams….but that’s just my opinion.
He can be a three in the NBA, it will take a focused off-season to do it, but he’s got a lot of what we need out of a 3rd option on this team
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
My problem with the newest catch-phrase about a Wolves player being "Derrick Williams can’t play 3" is that there is relatively no evidence to support this.
Aside from his currently below average outside shooting, his poor perimeter defense, the fact Rick Adelman has said “he’s not a small forward,” that he’s about 6’8’’, 260, etc., etc.
Also, newest catch-phrase? People have been saying this since before the draft.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Feb 8, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Williams and his agent were promoting him as a 3
but yeah, they were about it. No one else really saw it. It seems like most draftees pump themselves up for one position lower on the numeric scale than what reality ends up dictating. Williams thought he was 3, Wes thought he was a 2, Foye thought he was a 1, etc., etc. In only one case did it end up being true. Flynn thought he was a 1, but he ended up being a 0…..
by Rascal Flatts on Feb 8, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"Williams and his agent were promoting him as a 3"
I really think that was a clever “marketing ploy” because the Top 5 teams drafting had larger needs at SF than at PF. So they tried to sell Williams as a SF.
I think this is a big reason why the phone never rang for a trade
You can’t pull shit like that on most GMs these days. He’s not a 3 and even if he was, he’s not that great of one.
Yup.
I see him as some kind of mix of David West and Antwan Jamison. A nice player, but not a true stud. And not what THIS team needs.
by Simitar on Feb 8, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
What's really sad...
…was the whole “HE’S A 3!!!” bit was crafted specifically for one team. The one team with the highest pick who already had an All Star 4. The agent needed 1 team/POBO to bite or not have a deal in place and…well, there you have it.
by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 8, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think they just loved what they saw at #2 and #3 if they could convince the league he was a SF.
Because even if we passed on him, Utah was in the same position as us – totally overloaded at PF.
I think that is completely rediculous
In how you are looking at it like he ‘duped’ kahn. Now, I have no doubt as to why he was selling himself as a 3, for the reason you said.
But it was almost unanimous over here on CH that we should go BPA and get Williams.
Anyways, seems like you are going a bit to far with the Kahn getting fleeced bit here.
by TO12 on Feb 8, 2012 12:57 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions 2 recs
uh-huh
You have no doubt why he was selling himself as a 3, and he wasn’t as good of a prospect at the 3, and…then what?
Profit!
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
FWIW
The play was definitely to take Williams. I don’t disagree with that. However, there had to have been some acknowledgment that his value was at the 4, as a big. Either you have a deal there in place or you play Love at the 5 and hope for the best. That’s where I think Kahn was duped. He’s not a 3. You can’t draft a #2 pick for a reserve. These things were beyond obvious in real time.
by Stop-n-Pop on Feb 8, 2012 1:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Was there any legit possibility to trade down?
A lot of people here wanted that at the time (and then there was a very small contingent advocating to draft for need and pick Biyombo at 2 regardless if all else failed), but I don’t remember even hearing a unsubstantiated rumor of a legit scenario to trade down.
I think the biggest problem is that this was like the worst possible draft for the Wolves to have had the #2 pick (and that’s not Kahn’s fault).
by PDGirl on Feb 8, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know for sure
I get the feeling that the phone never rang on draft night. They thought they could get the best value at the last minute and…well, nothing. That being said, that’s just a guess on my part. I don’t think they got any offers on draft night.
It certainly would have softened the blow....
….of Clippergeddon Hornetpocalypse. Can’t say I was much of a Jonas fan at the time but it doesn’t take much to rationalize away Williams at 15-20 mpg in his rookie year in favor of a guy who could actually play the 3 or 5 at the same level.
At the time of the draft I thought he was going to be the best player from it in 3 years.
Since the draft, he’s only gotten better and better.
I agree with all that
Your initial point seemed to be that Kahn was duped into picking Dwill, while all if us stood by it as a good pick. Sounded like a typical Kahn catch 22.
However, you can pick a player to be a reserve. At #2 it’s not a problem for them I come off the bench at 15mpg all year. You can’t do that forever though, so something has to give.
by TO12 on Feb 8, 2012 3:29 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
That’s where I think Kahn was duped. He’s not a 3. You can’t draft a #2 pick for a reserve. These things were beyond obvious in real time.
I’m no Kahn defender (really hope we cut ties at the end of the season), but I’m not sure why you’re assuming he was “duped.” He took the consensus BPA regardless of the fit. We don’t know what deals were on the table. I was hoping to either trade down and pick up Biyombo, or trade the pick for a vet, but who knows what was out there.
At this point, I think our best play is to hold onto him for the rest of the year rather than trade him for a highly paid vet. I’d like to see us clear as much space as we can (amnesty Darko!) to go after Batum and/or Ray Allen in the offseason. After that, I think we go ahead and flip Williams when a team decides to do a fire sale on a vet.
no it was not
There were tons of people clamoring for a trade down and select Biyombo. I was raving about Valancuinas, there were some fans of Kanter and a few people who thought taking Biyombo at #2 was the right move. There were a lot of people voting BPA but it was hardly unanimous.
by zebano on Feb 8, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
come on man
I’m tired of always getting words picked out of a post…
Almost unanimous. We likely couldn’t of traded down. At #2 most people said the best pick was? Almost unanimous.
by TO12 on Feb 8, 2012 3:33 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
sorry mate you're claiming the site was unanimous I happened to be a big not-DWill guy
At #2 he was a consensus pick in all the 90+% of the mock drafts I read so I agree with you there but I’m sure somebody was willing to deal for the guy or he shouldn’t be a number 2 consensual pick.
(clapping harder isn't going to make it so)
Setting that aside, even if he makes it to a 3, it’s not like he was worth the 2nd pick as a wing player. His entire bit was being dominant as a big. That’s what made him a big time prospect.
How long do we have to go before we consider the C position locked up?
2 more weeks of this? Whole season?
Pek and Love are a money offensive combo. It’d be nice to have 3 positions completely locked down….maybe 4 if my Mayo trade goes through….maybe 5 once Williams drops 15 pounds this summer
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Think Darko has 73 more small injuries scheduled this season
So I think it is locked up.
I mean like
we stop looking for a center
i.e. a popular Williams trade involves us getting McGee or Gortat….when do we cross trading/drafting/signing a center off the too do list?
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
I think we've reached that point.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
I'm smiling so wide right now.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 7, 2012 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
What about
Interior defense. As much as I like Pekovic, I am a bit concerned about our ability to defend the paint with Love and Pekovic in the starting lineup.
DMC scored 10 points last night.
Jason Thompson scored seven.
JJ Hickson scored eight.
Chuck Hayes didn’t score.
Paint defense seems fine to me.
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 8:05 AM CST up reply actions
Pek will be in trouble against the Pau Gasols of the world
But Darko hates the Pau Gasols of the world and usually plays well against them. And Pau Gasol is a rare commodity.
The league is getting smaller, there are so very few players that are effective and over 7’0".
kind off
Most other positions are getting bigger, while center might be smaller
by TO12 on Feb 8, 2012 11:42 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm not so sure it's getting that much smaller
Sure Shaq is gone but he was freakish to begin with, even for an NBA center. Javalee McGee and DeAndre Jordan are both huge. Sure Bismack Biyombo may only be 6’9" but he has an absolutely freakish standing reach and wingspan which exceeds that of the 7 footers. Howard, Bynum, Nene, Marc Gasol… none of these guys are smaller than their predecessors.
McGee and Jordan
Please, they don’t cause problem because they’re big. They’re stiffs who are good at D (McGee is an idiot), but that won’t create a matchup problem. Most of the big men of today are not really skilled. There is no Yao Ming skill-wise over 7’0" right now in the league.
I was mainly responding to your "The league is getting smaller" bit and in particular TO12's claim that centers are getting smaller.
DAJ is actually quite useful with a good PG IMO. He sticks to his strengths. Sure he’s not a low post play with a variety of moves ala Al Jefferson but he’s still quite useful to his team. Have you watched Indian’s Hibbert this year. Due to good starts that tailed off in other years I didn’t want to list him but the guy is huge and has some post moves.
there is a premium on athletic ability now at center
While there used to be a premium on height. You’d never have some of the 7’2" guys from the 90’s playing now.
by TO12 on Feb 8, 2012 3:25 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
but that wasn't my initial point
It’s that the league is getting bigger as a whole, except for a possible reduction at center
by TO12 on Feb 8, 2012 3:26 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Pau gasol isn't a Center...
Problem solved.
I watch this team, and i care so much, simply because i can’t not. It’s just a part of who i am..
That he did
I think Pekovic will do fine against the big body centers. Pekovic isn’t going to give up easy position because he’s too strong and he’ll contest shots.
I’m speaking more specifically about his ability to provide help defense.
I would probably agree
I’m just curious if 2 weeks is enough etc.
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
I want to wait until teams start fronting him really hard and see if he can adapt to that.
If he can handle that, then absolutely. I think if he keeps up this play for another few weeks without really getting shut down or foul-happy, we can call him a starter (and maybe a star)
Starter spot is certainly locked up
Backup spot depends on how Darko takes not starting. If he ends up being even more apathetic than usual we may be in trouble
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 7, 2012 11:30 PM CST up reply actions
Trade deadline is 5 weeks away
If I were a betting man, I’d put my money on no moves being made.
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really?
What’s the reasoning? We like the team we have? (i.e. is that Kahn’s reasoning) surely Adleman wants to continue without a true 2?
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
I don't know if there's a realistic way to get a true 2 without trading Williams,
which I can’t see Kahn doing at this point in time.
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by TimAllen on Feb 7, 2012 11:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Mayo?
regardless of the 2 spot…I think we should put Randolph out of his misery and try to get a draft pick for him or something…too many guys that do to many similar things…couldn’t hurt to just get rid of one.
Mayo seems like he’s gettable w/o Williams and he’s been playing good though.
But….maybe they like Malcolm Lee as much as I do
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
What are you offering Memphis for Mayo? Beasley? Randolph?
I’m not sure either of those two would do it. Definitely not Darko or Luke.
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well from the impression I get
which, let’s be honest, is Hoopshype articles so this is all relative to the watered-down info I have to work with.
Is that they are in trade discussions with teams for like Josh McRoberts etc…..players Randolph/Beasley are comparable too….but the talks get stalled because Memphis also wants a draft pick….we coincidentally own their 2013 draft pick….I would be very cool with like Randolph/Ellington/2013 Memphis pick for Mayo…or some form of trade like that.
again. Working with what I got is not an exact science….but in this trade Memphis gets a post player (which they are thin on) a back up 2 (to replace Mayo, even though he’s worse) and a protected pick
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
I think they were shopping for a backup PG, a dependable big man. Plus maybe a draft pick
Coincidentally, he have abundance of both and they’re quite affordable
by bluedevil_unicorno on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 AM CST up reply actions
Do you not watch the games?
Luke is a stud. Any contender or wanna be contender would love to have Luke. His defense is sub-par but he is a top 30 point guard for sure. If we trade a guy that is a starter level player we better get a lot in return.
by xraraavis on Feb 8, 2012 8:39 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ha.
+1 for asking TimAllen, multiple-year season ticket holder, and live-tweeter of every game, whether he watches the games.
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by losDelFuego on Feb 8, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Okay, we'll settle for a "top 30 shooting guard" coming back.
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
How is Malcolm Lee's shooting?
Ive heard his defense is top notch, but I dont know alot about his shooting
by RaysOfHope on Feb 7, 2012 11:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
shooting is not strong
very solid defensive player/ball handler/penetration guy though
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
If you are looking for grounded in reality basketball discussion
you are talking to the wrong guy.
But in my opinion….I do think he has the ability to start in the NBA…he was a bizarre college player to watch, he was played out of position and looked very strong in flashes but never was capable of capitalizing on all his skills.
I do think his game is suited more for the NBA pace and he could look really good playing alongside Rubio.
Saying all that: in a weak draft he fell to the 2nd round….he’s got a lot of reasons for Wolves fans to be intrigued, but he’s still a second round pick
I don't know what an art house is, I don't know what goes on in an art house, I have never been in an art house, and I can't imagine it's any place I ever want to be.
Thanks for what you have provided about him
I think that 3 year deal he signed has Adelman all over it, I really cant wait for him to get healthy so that I can see what he has to offer. I think that Adelman thinks that he could be a starter for the Timberwolves
by RaysOfHope on Feb 7, 2012 11:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Lee had a decent line tonight
http://www.nba.com/dleague/siouxfalls/
For first game back.
Where there is a D-Williams, there is a way
by Flagrant on Feb 7, 2012 11:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Very nice
I want him to play for us soon
by RaysOfHope on Feb 8, 2012 12:01 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
When Kahn was asked in his MPR interview the other day whether he was looking for anything,
and the interviewer specifically said “Shooting Guard….?” as part of the question, Kahn said the team really wasn’t looking for anything at this point.
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
I love it
So then right after Kahn says that, Pekovic proceeds to provide the best stretch of play at Center this franchise has seen since…..ever!? And our wings continue to struggle, so much so that Adelman would rather trot 3 PGs out there instead. Funny stuff.
by Rascal Flatts on Feb 8, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Sort of
The Kahn interview was this Monday, after most of Pek’s damage had already been dealt.
Kahn’s answer seemed to be, unsurprisingly, made up on the spot.
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Sorry
I mistakenly thought he meant the interview he did with Focke (sp?) a couple weeks ago. I didn’t know about the MPR one.
by Rascal Flatts on Feb 8, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
It was part of the "Minnesota Sports Roundup,"
which you can listen to here. Aired on 2/6/2012.
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
Just got done watching the game
Thoughts:
1. Pek is a truly skilled big. His footwork is Shaq-esque. That steal at halfcourt and the breakaway layup was poetry in motion.
2. Rubio is having an effect on Ridnour. You could see Ricky’s influence in that wraparound pass to Pek in the lane.
3. There are honestly times when I see Wesley Johnson set a screen, wonder to myself when he came into the game, and then realize he’s been playing for the last 6 minutes. He disappears. And then when he catches a perfect oop from Rubio, he looks so damned satisfied with himself, like he’s been lighting it up all game.
4. D Will was all over the place on D to start the game. He faded a little at the end but he sill ended up with 3 blocks and a steal. Had his hand in a lot of plays too. I find it weird though for a guy who shot so many FT’s in college to be so bad at the line. He shot 75% as a sophomore. you’d think that and his jumper will improve.
5. Tolliver doesn’t look like he’s on the same page as the rest of the team. He’s playing with no confidence.
Number three is uncanny.
Cloak of invisibility.
Even, above, when people are comparing DMC and Pekovic. Nobody mentioned Wes! Hilarious.
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
LMAO
When informed of Love tweeting about him during the game, Pekovic replied, “I don’t know. I don’t got Twitters.”
"David Kahn doesn't like it, so I'm going to keep it." - Kevin Love on growing his beard.
by GWST11 on Feb 8, 2012 12:48 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
I know he doesn't.
I’d be following the shit out of him if he did.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 12:53 AM CST up reply actions
That came out wrong . . .
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 12:53 AM CST up reply actions
Dammit!
That’s where I put that roll! Now where did I put the butter? Uh-oh.
"Oh my, oh my, oh my. Is that great basketball or what?" --Hubie Brown, Jan. 20, 2012
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 1:15 AM CST up reply actions
Human centipede style?
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Feb 9, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
That's freakin awesome
Gotta love Pek!
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 8, 2012 1:36 AM CST up reply actions
just imagine...
Ricky in a year or three with that much more familiarity with the league and teammates, plus about 10 to 15 pounds more muscle. Throw in a more viable 2, or better shooting 3 and the potential is mind boggling.
maynnn
Pek tho…dat mafucka iz ballin!!! Dis shit iz like sustainable too doe, mayn unless de league starst pumpin HGH who de fuck iz stronger den pek aint nowun keepin dude out de lane
MAYN HOL UP!
PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKK!
Yeah, it seems to me that only D-12 can hold his ground with Pek, and that’s a whole other stratosphere.
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 2:33 AM CST up reply actions
That one was pretty awesome
loved the drop pass in transition too but posterizing DMC straight out of a post up is great.
That was great,
and it came just after JPete was talking about how Pek would have benefited from McHale’s presence. It doesn’t get much more McHale than that.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
GRR MARTIN SPOILER ALERT
I was sooooooooo happy when Joffrey died.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 2:40 AM CST up reply actions
I tried.
Sorry, mang.
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 7:51 AM CST up reply actions
Looking back at the last play
Green was way open and why?
When you watch closely, you see DWilliams casually jogging back guarding nobody. He should be sprinting back in that situation, not just the last 3 steps when he thinks he might have a chance at a block.
by twinscrazy_german on Feb 8, 2012 3:23 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Pek has been a lesson in patience for me
I was ready to throw him away to be honest. He looked so bad last year. I think Rubio has helped him a ton, and his vaunted post-effectiveness is finally being displayed.
Just his growth has been tremendous. Makes me somewhat hopeful for Derrick Williams, but I still maintain he is an undersized PF, and thus would be more inclined to trade him now.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
D-Will is not an undersized PF.
Comparisons: (height, wingspan, standing reach)
D-Will: 6’8.75",7’1.5",9’0"
Carl Landry (classic undersized PF): 6’8.5", 6’11", 8’6.5" (HUGE difference in standing reach)
Paul Millsap (undersized PF): 6’7.25", 7’1.5", 8’9.5" (still a big difference)
Amare: 6’10", 7’1.75",9’0.5"
Udonis Haslem: 6’7.75", 6’11", 8’11"
G. Monroe (capable of playing even C in today’s league): 6’11", 7’2.25",9’0.5"
Kevin Love: 6’9.5", 6’11.25", 8’10"
Patrick Patterson: 6’9.25",7’1.25",8’11"
LMA: 6’11.25",7’4.75", 9’2"
Griffin: 6’10",6’11.25",8’9"
Bosh: 6’11.5", 7’3.5",9’2"
Josh Smith: 6’8.25, 7’0",8’10.5"
David Lee: 6’9", 7’0",8’10.5"
So all in all, Derrick Williams is not an undersized PF. He is quite unique in that if he drops his body fat to an average NBA level, he’ll be quick enough to play SF selectively and will still be able to play against most PFs without giving up any height advantage.
He is also a very good athlete. So all in all, you are mistaken in your evaluation.
I haven't included
Randolph, Nowitzki, Boozer, Brand and some other guys because I was lazy to look them up. I also included some up and coming PFs, and most of these players can be considered at least ‘good’. As you can see, he is not shorter (especially by standing reach, what matters most) than his peers, but he is usually more athletic and/or has better ball handling skills.
I'd never say dwill isn't a PF
But I’ll tell you all day he isn’t a sf. He isn’t quick, everyone, please, take note.
by TO12 on Feb 8, 2012 11:45 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
you got me
spoke outta turn about that no doubt. Still, he isn’t a SF to me. He plays better at the 4 and looks more confident there. The data’s on my side about that too.
so even if he’s not undersized, we have a PF. D-Will is expendable now and into the future.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
McHale and Pek
Say what you will about McHale, but we have him and him alone to thank for Nikola Pekovic (and for the same reason we have him and him alone to thank for Kevin Garnett).
A lot of pre-draft buzz in 2008 swirled around Pekovic. A lot of experts, self-proclaimed and otherwise, were calling him the top Euro prospect that year. But because he was under contract to Belgrade, it was highly unlikely likely he’d be a first-round selection.
The Wolves had the first pick in the second round. McHale must have entertained trade offers for the pick from half a dozen teams (including 2009 No. 1 picks), all eager to draft Pekovic and stash him. McHale, who knows a thing or two about big men, wisely rejected them all and took his man. (McHale did the same thing in 1995, when a number of teams eager to draft Garnett offered attractive trade proposals.)
by kurosawa on Feb 8, 2012 6:46 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
True to a point but
It was Kahn and Rambis who went over yonder to visit Pek and watch his games. It was they who determined if and when to bring Pek over and place him on the roster. So, I begrudgingly apportion some credit to Kahn and Rambis.
Where there is a D-Williams, there is a way
He came over when he did because it was the first time his buyout was affordable
The credit Kahn gets is that he decided it was worth offering Pek a contract, which wasn’t exactly hard…but then again, it was at the same time he was giving Darko money and wooing David Lee for some reason, so ‘easy decision’ is relative I guess.
Kahn could easily have used Pekovic as trade leverage.
Honestly, that’s what I expected the night we used the draft pick on him, and right up until two drafts ago.
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
I just started watching the game on dvr
It’s nice to see wes start off so aggressive haven’t seen him play like that pretty much all season hopefully he can keep up the aggressiveness at least until his shot starts falling consistently.
by MrBungle85 on Feb 8, 2012 7:11 AM CST via mobile reply actions
NBA has a new format for the "rookie/sophomore" game at the all-star break
Now the teams are chosen from sophs and rookies by team GMs. Shaq is one. Barkley is the other.
Which one chooses Rubio first?
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Barkley
He knows basketball much better than Shaq.
by SirLusciousLeftFoot on Feb 8, 2012 7:42 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
which ones will be there besides Rubio?
honest question I have no idea who will be there though I expect to see DMC, Wall, Leonard, DWill, Irving, Favors, George, Monroe, Rubio, Irving and hopefully Pek. I suppose Jimmer might be there for another white guy but I doubt he or pek are there.
Can't imagine
Shaq or Barkley passing on a chance to draft Pek
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by TMiss on Feb 8, 2012 9:23 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, exactly
Barkley will draft a better team that will likely include Rubio and Pek, and beat Shaq’s team. Shaq will draft the flashy guys, who are very good, and will put up highlights. They will lose.
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 8, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
it's interesting to see how the game played out without Love.
We actually boarded well, but I was most surprised to see the offense (in specific the transition offense).
I think not having Love out there allowed us to run more, and might have also cleared out the lane for more alley-oop attempts than normal.
Of course there were probably other factors, but without Love we did seem to be able to get out and run more. Hope that can continue.
by TO12 on Feb 8, 2012 7:40 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
On Chuck Hayes
Someone said (and I’m lazy to look up) that he didn’t understand why we wanted to sign him.
Chuck is awesome and would be a great addition to our team as well.
Basically this is what he does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6f5Uyu6Dv4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL8JIVrWUEA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_hRBccRxMs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbRZZLD48B4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_rYIzgGXOg
He’s an extremely tough guy, you can’t get into his head. He really knows how to defend without being either ‘long’ or ‘athletic’. He’d be a perfect complement to our big guys.
He's been hurt this year
But he looks like he was carrying around more weight last night.
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Chuck Hayes could ask Love
for some dieting tips
Pek was great,
but in a weird way, his game last night made me appreciate Love a little more. Pek had 23 points and 10 rebounds, but it felt like about 40 points and 20 rebounds watching it. Love, on the other hand, can put up a 23/10 game and I barely notice.
But I don’t want to take away anything from Pek. It was a great night for him. Seriously, a steal and breakaway finger roll?
Ricky Rubio is the Troy Polamalu
of the NBA.
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by beatsandpeasnyc on Feb 8, 2012 9:16 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
bad commercials and a history of concussions?
I see it
by TO12 on Feb 8, 2012 11:49 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
If this team gets a guy that needs to be doubled in the post (Pek?)
Then look the hell out.
If this team gets a guy who is automatic when given any space from 3 (your Korvers, your Leglers, your Kerrs of the world)
Then look the hell out.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Feb 8, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
A guy that we can afford to hang around the 3 point line the way Wes does
Love is automatic but he cant spend all his time sitting out there.
I watch this team, and i care so much, simply because i can’t not. It’s just a part of who i am..
Man, I really enjoy Pek.
Line from the Tribes gamer about Love’s Tweets and specifically about Pek…
Love noticed, tweeting, “Pek is out there working!!!”
When informed of that, Pekovic replied, “I don’t know. I don’t got Twitters.”
Maybe that's because it took six years.
by Darth Paxton on Feb 8, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
(I think that was the joke.)
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sure that if you moused over Maine
you’d find out that it was a 1-2 vote.
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Idaho is a swing state. Schedule some friendlies with Barca there.
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by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 8, 2012 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
Shocking news!
by Hasdrubal on Feb 8, 2012 1:04 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Haha!
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
I expect Pek
To fill the whole tattoo, mid-season tops
In Zgoda's chat,
he says that Rubio and Williams are in the Rookie/Sophomore thing, but Pek isn’t. Grrrr. At least Wes didn’t make it.
Eyes up. We're aiming for Pekovic in the big boys' game next season.
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
Fine by me.
Keep him as secret as possible for now.
Teams won’t know what hit them.
by googoleeoottooooleeoottooooleeeatta on Feb 8, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, we´d better think
About the celebration after tonight´s game
We get into Playoffs zone right?
(Keeps hand down.)
I will say, though, that the “rising stars” game and its new format at least caught my eye this time. (Shaq and Chuck Barkley act as GMs and pick the teams with a mix of rookies and sophomores now.) Basically any change is noticeable, anyway – unlike the defense played in that game.
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
Strippers
and other pro jocks.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
The NBA has lost the Montenegrin viewer
Nice work Stern.
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by NBA Observer on Feb 8, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
that's awesome
Pek > "Demarcus Cousins"
by running with Twolves (and scissors) on Feb 8, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
Was there just one?
I know it’s a small country, but . . .
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
He should just show up and play anyway
Who would stop him?
Pek does what he wants, when he wants.
by Rascal Flatts on Feb 8, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's a good point.
David Stern doesn’t want his skull on Pek’s shoulder.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
Buahahaha.....
Montenegro has only 600 000 inhabitants. Pek is adored by large population of Serbian basketball fans. Especially supporters of Partizan Belgrade….
Tom Powers Ron Burgundy moment
In today’s printed Pioneer Press, Tom Powers wrote an article with this headline:
“Who knew Pekovic had spunk in his trunk?”
This may be the most awkward, innuendo-laden headline in MN sports history. Not surprisingly it’s not used in the online addition.
I suspect that Powers has no knowledge of British slang
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by Wile E Coyote on Feb 8, 2012 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
Yeow.
Have they edited it now? (Just went to look and couldn’t find it).
Setting aside the innuendo, it is patently bizarre and non-sensical (was he going for the tree metaphor he uses in the article?)
I like that it was a positive article about Pek
but man, that whole thing was pretty stupid and poorly written.
I would assume he meant to say
That Pek had unexpected energy and skills hidden away. And thought he’d look cooler if he made it rhyme.
Either that or he was up late watching movies involving no women.
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by Wile E Coyote on Feb 8, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
Headlines get made by someone else, usually.
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
He fails the Bechdel test.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
Headlines I have loved include:
“Schizophrenia may spring from a smorgasbord”
“Pennsylvania company recalls 94,400 lbs of beef panties”
“Teenage prostitution problem is mounting”
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
by feral on Feb 8, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I also really dig the ones where a database entry gets screwed up.
Check the caption.
"First, I'd like to blame the Lord for causing us to lose today."
by feral on Feb 8, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Too funny.
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by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
"Beef Panties"
will be the name of my next punk band.
I'm going to brag. I drive the Nikola Pekovic fanwagon.
by Cynical Jason on Feb 8, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
Reminds me
of one of the Sacramento announcers last night saying about Pek, “He is pure power. He just takes what he wants… and what he wants is to get in deep.” Followed by an awkward silence.
by PhinneasGage on Feb 8, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
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